First of all, this is a theory, not a true fact. In my opinion it is true, after reading the books carefully, a few times.

Murtagh is a good person. He saved Eragon's life from the Ra'zac, and befriended him. He practiced with him, and they soon became the best of friends when Brom died. It's this kind of friendship that destroys the chance of betrayal. The twins dragged Murtagh away to Galbatorix, and Galbatorix made him swear to him in the Anceint Language. If Murtagh were to refuse, Galbatorix could and would easily kill him. If Murtagh accepted, he could live longer and help the Varden and Eragon destroy Galbatorix. So he repeated the oath, as he was in a big pickle. He met Eragon on the battlefield, and could have easily killed him or captured him. He didn't. I think Galbatorix could have been scrying him at the time, or in his mind. If he were to say to Eragon, "I'm not really evil, I need your help," again, Galbatorix would kill him. Again, he was in a big pickle. He couldn't kill his friend, but he couldn't ask for help. Even though he would get punished for sparing Eragon's life, he probably would not be killed. It was again the best decision he could make. Also, when Galbatorix told Murtagh that Eragon was his brother, he was probably as suprised as Eragon was. This would make Murtagh much closer to Eragon then he was before, and even if he was considering killing Eragon before, this would probably get rid of the thought in his mind.

ok, let us put it this way, yes, he's good, but the reason is because of this: he and Thorn SWORE in the AL that they would serve Galbatorix

What Eragon said. They have to kill him. He didn't say it in the book, but maybe he will think it over and decide that killing Galbatorix would be worth more than his own life. Maybe he'll even commit suicide.

sahrimp, ur kionda wrong. Him living longer would HARM the Varden, and his oaths would make him unable to aid in Galby's death, but do the oposite. He couldn't have killed Eragon because his mission was to capture Eragon ALIVE. He chose to defy Galby becuse of his friendship, but how he spoke of Galby's dream and how he refused to die for what was right showed his true heart: in the dark gray area; more bad than good, but there's still some good in him.

The point is not that he will help the Varden destroy Galbatorix, it's that he's good. And anyway, nowhere in his oath did he say he would stop the Varden if they attacked Galbatorix... He could just not do anything. Again, Galbatoix might have been scrying or in Murtagh's mind at the time, so he would have had to say mostly what Galbatorix would have wanted him to say.

And, Murtagh has a right to talk good about Galbatorix's dream. I actually thought about it myself, and that's actually pretty good. Murtagh just doesn't know that he is lying.

but you should think: "why shoudl i believe a nutcase tyrant, especially about his former enemy?"

Galby is smart enough to come up with oaths that include that.

Wait, i'm confused.

Can you rephrase that please?

basically, anyone with any sense could tell that Galby's view would be very skewed and biast. Murtagh believed him anyways.

You cannot lie in the Ancient Language; you cannot have a misguided thought when you speak in the AL. So I cannot see how he would think; "OK I swear in the AL, say the oath but I'll try to help Eragon in any other way! He had a choice and he made it. His life was worth much more than the lives of the thousands of "strangers" in Alagaesia.

Check this out: "...life is still too sweet for me to part with it so easily. No stranger's life is more important than Thorn's or my own." Eldest, 650

His oath stated that he would swear loyalty to Galbatorix. "Galbatorix forced both of us to swear loyalty to him in the ancient language. We cannot disobey him now," p647 - Eldest.

loy‧al‧ty
–noun, plural -ties.
1. the state or quality of being loyal; faithfulness to commitments or obligations.
2. faithful adherence to a sovereign, government, leader, cause, etc.
3. an example or instance of faithfulness, adherence, or the like: a man with fierce loyalties.

Sparing Eragon's life would not be dis-loyal. Assuming Galbatorix didn't say "Don't spare him," then Murtagh isn't disloyal.



Again, I bring up the fact that Galbatorix could have been scrying or in Murtagh's mind at the time. What Murtagh said there could not have been the real truth that he believed. He was probably forced to say this, so Galbatorix could gain Saphira.

murtagh is evil, if he were really good he would've died rather than serve galby

Ashrimp, I totally understand the point you are trying to place forward, and I agree with only half of it.
Where I disagree is on this part:
"If Murtagh were to refuse, Galbatorix could and would easily kill him. [This is what I cannot excuse or find it in my mind to justify, (but that's me AnnieB, as a person).] Through his character we learn first in Eragon and later in Eldest, he places his life above any other person's, or persons.
If Murtagh accepted, he could live longer and help the Varden and Eragon destroy Galbatorix."
If he lets us know loud and clear in Eldest his life is above any other person or people, how would he help the Varden. In his conversation with Eragon, he diminishes and belittles the elves, Brom, Islanzadi, the dwarves and everything the Varden and Eragon represent. I cannot visualize him wanting to help the Varden. Him, as his father before him, is power hungry.

i thought elves could tell in half truths in the AL

yeah, but some oaths are hard to get around cuz they are too specific. that's why at first I thought that Arya didn't love Eragon PERIOD. then Annie made me realize that she might have just not realized her love for him.

ok, i understand now... thanks for that inof

Ok at first I want to state that in my opinion (or at least what I want to believe), Murtagh is not a good guy. And I have my own theory for this.
Remember ALL these following sentences are my theory, I write them as Simple Past Tense/ Present Tense instead of If Conditional, but they all only my assumption.


Murtagh was bad since the first time. He was on Galbatorix side since the stone age, and Galbatorix ask him to befriended Eragon and Brom.


This story was never happen. Murtagh left the tunnels with the Twins.


Murtagh and Galby had another plan*.


This story was never happen, since it's all part of a huge plan.


Murtagh knew he shared a blood with Eragon. But he also knew that Eragon's father was Brom, and Brom killed Morzan. That's even more reason to hate Eragon as "a child of person who killed my father."

*About the plan I've been talking about, in my opinion it would be overally something like this:

Murtagh was bad, and he pretended to be nice. He was then opposed Eragon in the end of Eldest, as to make Eragon loves and pitty him more. In book 3, somehow Murtagh will be "released from the oath" and Eragon take him to the Varden's site (by then everyone will be convinced Murtagh is a good guy). Murtagh then will be proceed to the step number 2: approaching Nasuada and get her trust (and love, perhaps). And then he will do something to her, either kill her or kidnap her, to ruin the Varden's moral and etc etc... Then he will fly back to Galby's castle, standing by him as Galby's most trusted man.

i guess it's possible; you never know. but there is no way that they could have known about Thorn hatching... UNLESS HE HAD ALREADY HATCHED BEFORE ERAGON MET MURTAGH, WHICH EXPLAINS THORN BEING ABLE TO USE FIRE!!! your theory works...rather well in fact.... at least the part about the past.

i dunno about him knowing about Brom being Eragon's father though. He said that he was Morzan's oldest, and that Zar'roc should go to the eldest, not the youngest, implying that they are of the same father.

yeah, that does work out fairly well... VERY well...

I AGREE WITH LAVA GOLEM, HE IS GOOD AT HEART, BUT LOOK AT HIS CONVERSATION WITH ERAGON ON THE BURNING PLAINS. CARES ONLY FOR HIMSELF AND THORN, AND IS FOLLOWING IN HIS FATHERS FOOTSTEPS, ETC

OH AND Fathskie, NICE THEORY, BUT IT SEEMS A BIT, DEVIOUS? AND IF HE WAS BAD, WHY SAVE ERAGON FROM THE RAZOC? AND HE COULD HAVE HELD NASUADA HOSTAGE USING MAGIC AND ESCAPED THEN KILLED HER. THERE ARE FLAWS, BUT ITS NOT BAD. JUST MY OPINION

he didnt swear galbatorix found his true name and took control over him muturgah is galbatorixes slave

yes, though he is not dragging his feet either.

Personally, i think that Fathskie's is quite possible!

This is a topic that my friends and I debate frequently.
I will be the first to admit that all the signs are pointing towards Murtagh being evil. However, that is also the quick and easy (and boring) conclusion. I believe our friend CP is a much better author than that. He likes putting the guesswork into his work. So here are a FEW of my reasons to support why murtagh is good.
First, the dragons all chose their riders, and all were inherently good. Galby turned after going mad. The Foresworn turned after Galby's influence. The dragons / riders were chosen as peacekeepers, so why would a dragon choose an evil rider?
Second, Saphira was able to pinpoint good vs evil to a pretty good degree. She immediately liked Brom, Angela / Solembum, and Ajihad to name a few. But she immediately sneered at the Twins. She openly liked and trusted Murtagh.
Third, Murtagh had plenty of chances to kill or turn Eragon over to Galby. Why help set him free from prison or let him go at the battle in Surda? Doesn't make sense.
With that said, Here's my theory:
Murtagh made the oath because he really knew no other life than that under Galby's rule. Murtagh discovered the truth about Galby and runs. At the battle of Farten Dur, the twins capture him and bring him back. Somewhere along the lines, Galby discovered Murtagh's TRUE NAME which gives him complete domination / control over him. Murtagh is basically forced to fight with Galbatorix, but is wise enough to find the loop holes needed to assist Eragon instead of hurting him. (Hince, letting him go at the end.)
I also believe that Eragon will have to discover Galby's true name in order to defeat him. I can only hope that after defeating Galbatorix, it will release the hold over Murtagh and he will be able to live free for the first time in his life. However, I do realize this is unlikely and Murtagh will probably die before that can happen.
Any further thoughts?

i kinda like Fathskie's idea that Thorn had hatched for Murtagh b4 hand. it makes sense. And then Murtagh was just becoming attached with the enemy, and they became friends.

That's what my other half says. But on the alagasia website, CP answers questions, and one of them basically says we will learn how Murtagh's dragon grew so quickly and Murtagh gained his power so quickly in the third book. It just opens more questions and theories!

Well it is possible.

it doesnt matter if hes good or not. he has to do what galbatorix says and he cant disobey him

agreed

if murtagh was good, he wouldnt have fought eragon in eldest! i know that brom did, but that was just with sticks and it was sparring, so thatt doesnt count!

if murtagh was good then he would have just let eragon kill him

Anyone who has to serve a mad man becomes eveil willingly or not

i disagree, i think his serving galby only makes him turn against him even more, however he may have felt in the beginning murtagh will (in my opinion) turn on galby or somehow save eragon again

But if he hates Galby even more, why did he speak so highly of him in Eldest?

Murtagh isn't entirely a bad person because he said bluntly that he was forced to swear in the AL.

He ALSO let Eragon go instead of taking him to Galby. That says something there. If he was evil, he wouldn't have let Eragon go and he could've /easily/ taken him to Galby.

I do not think he is evil, but I think he likes Galby because he likes learning all of his secrets and if he knows all of them he could kill Galby

I think one problem is we are unable to tell why Murtagh let eragon go at the end of book 3 because we do not know the exact oaths that he swore to Galby, all we know is that he swore loyalty to galby, but that can not be it.

Eragon's poem proved to us that if you believe something is real / true you can say it in the AL still. Eragon was able to still say his poem even though none of it was real.

I can't remember but at the end Murtagh was happy to let the twins suffer because the made sure that he sufferred. So galby made sure that he did suffer for running away n all the rest of it.

Its still hard for me to say if he is evil or not. I can understand not wanting to die. He finally found someone in life that trully cares about him n is able to be his best friend ... Thorn... Even thuough he n Eragon were friends, i do not think they were extremely close. Eragon upon reaching the varden began to forget all about him..hardly visited Murtagh while he was kept confined.
Murtagh know believes very strongly in galbys cause he crave power n the new relationship with thorn. AT the end of eldest he made sure that eragon knew he was out matched even with his enhanced powers n skill. The want n hunger for power > evil

murtagh must b good otherwise he would hav just captured eragon and not left him on the plateau

Maybe the reason he left him on the pletau is that he is jealous. Murtagh craves and enjoys his new found power if Eragon comes into the picture how will it effect the power Murtagh now holds. Eragon would be important he needs saphira (i know he could just kill eragon n put a spell on her) n the best way to achieve this is to keep eragon alive n happy. If galby truly wants to rebuild the riders he needs eragon, what is there to say that murtagh fears eragon taking his place as galby's possible right hand man.

Or if he was bad, he wouldn't have let Eragon go.

yer i think hes a good person because he did help eragon but shame he died

Murtagh isn't dead >.o lol

Only because Galb forced them to with their real names

he didn't chose galby. galby made him swear in the ancient language that he would serve him. it says so in eldest when he and eragon are talking on top of the plateau.

That's right. Murtagh didn't choose. And it's obvious that Murtagh was reluctant about it and that he doesn't necessarily like the position he's in.

yeah i agree. i think murtagh is totally good, just that he swore loyalty to galby.

I agree too. Murtagh is good and he and Thorn just had no choice.

Brace yourselves though... he may not be bad, but he may never turn to the 'good side' in book 3... and just be foolish up until he end where he dies or something...

i think hes good but he has to help galby cause hi promised him but if galby dies he will be good.who knows is he or

i hope he is good. i dont want him bad 4ever.

He vwas only speaking highly of galbys magic abilities

OR maybe galby twisted his mind to make him think like that.

~_~ There's no doubt that Galby twisted Murtagh's mind. The question is can Murtagh or anyone else find a way to counter it.

Well, I just dont want Murtagh die, but if he is going to, I hope that he dies as a good guy...

I agree with you Annie.

But the debate is not whether Murtagh is for or against Galby, it's whether or not Murtagh is good.

Yes, he made the choice to submit to Galby, but I wouldn't label him a 'bad person' because of that. In a sense, one may call him weak because he values his own life over others' and joined the evil forces.

Now for me to make my point... or try.

Murtagh obviously wasn't entirely happy with the position he was in. He was on Galby's side, one could say, but he was not an evil guy.

By letting Eragon go in the end of Eldest, one could see that Murtagh was 'beginning' to think of others' lives more than his own. That is a step in the good direction. There is no doubt that Galby would be furious at Murtagh for this- and Murtagh would most likely be punished for this choice, whether by torture or some other method. And I'm sure Murtagh knew that.

And I'll have to say that I disagree with your Yin and Yang statement- but we don't need to go into that.

Murtagh didn't have a choice to fight his brother to the death or not. He was under the control of the oath he made, and if he didn't follow it, he would die. He did a good thing by letting Eragon go, and maybe he did it because he had hopes that he would somehow be freed from this bad choice of his.

He couldn't have just let Eragon help him neutralize his oath before, because that would've been going against the oath he made to Galby. I feel that Eragon has to neutralize this himself without Murtagh's cooperation.

I'm really tired of debating this- mainly because neither of us can convince the other person to change their beliefs.

I'm holding fast to my belief that Murtagh is not evil. Yes, he murdered Hrothgar, but that could've been Galby's orders. Galby probably told Murtagh to >kill< Hrothgar and NOT just >try< to kill him. You don't have the choice if you're under oath.

If Murtagh was indeed evil, he wouldn't have told Eragon over and over again in Eldest that 'he had no choice'. He would've taken Eragon to Galby to save his own skin from punishment. And it's obvious that he didn't like the situation he was in.

Choices to NOT make a person evil. If that was the case, the entire human race would be considered evil and wicked- even though there are people out there who strive to be good. Of course, everyone has made bad choices, but there's a difference between people who make some bad choices and people who are evil.

i wouldnt consider that evil... at least he didnt kill eragon while he was weak and held powerlessly and deffencelless... would you consider that evil...

as for Hrothgar, i honestlly belive that that was probabbly an order form galby... that it wasnt his choice...

and yes he did make a choice to join galby.. but like Elayna said, that doesnt make him evil, weak maybe, but not evil...

however i dont belive he will ever be entirelly good again.. his mind will have been to warped to go back...


Edit: sorry if it sounds like im repeating elyana.. she hit the post button before i did...

Murtagh isn't evil. He can't help himself. He, like any other dragon rider probably would have valued their life, and their dragon more than others.

Princess Elayna, I am not trying to convince you. I can understand your point of view, but that doesn't mean I agree. I do not post here in order to convince people. I post to express my view either in favor or against it.

And I happen to think Murtagh should had died rather than give in to Galbatorix, for the "good of the many."

He was well aware of what it would mean to live under Galby and he chose to do so. As I have perceived it, Murtagh "too sweet on life" as he, himself said. He "valued his life over others," hence he preferred and decided to serve evil. As I highlighted, and you admitted, "he would die."

So that is crystal clear to me. He chose to live in evil rather than die, and balance the odds in favor of the Varden or the innocents, even after he saw first hand what Galbatorix was capable of doing.

But that is convicting Murtagh too quickly. If Paolini wants to twist things up, he will probably make it so that Galbatorix thinks he knows the real name.

in this section Elyana is discussing breaking an oath in the ancient language.. not his originally decision to join glaby...

but i do see your side of it Annie, but i just dont see how that choice makes him evil... i do hold it against him and say its wrong.. but one bad choice does not make him EVIL... i belive he was good and made a bad choice.. and now galby is infuluencing his thought so that he will never trully be able to go back to good...

its the same thing that engulfs somany teens today giving into peer pressure and doing something because their "friends" tell them to.. but in tyhis case... THERE IS NO WAY OUT... a real teen can leave his friends and change.. untill galby dies, murtagh is locked in his power with no way out.. i dont think that consititutes him being evil.

Ah...we do not know exactly when did Thorn hatch for Murtagh. We have no information to indicate if it was before or after he was under Galbatorix's service. Personally, I am inclined to believe it was after. And I have always had this nagging feeling that Galbatorix somehow knew one of the eggs would hatch for Murtagh. But that's besides the point...

^ Thank you for this ^

You've enhanced what I've meant to say.

Annie, I'm not saying that Murtagh will come back to the 'good side'. I'm saying that he's not an evil guy. Yes, he has joined the forces of evil, but he's not evil.

This is a bad example, but take Darth Vader from Star Wars. He was on the evil side, did evil things, but in the end he was good. Anakin made poor choices that ultimately led him to the 'dark side'. But there 'was still good in him' as Luke put it. And sure enough, in the end Darth Vader did give up his life to save Luke. And no, he didn't give up his life 'for the many'- he joined the Emporer when he was found in the end of Episode III.

Good point! So youmean that Murtagh is evil, though he hasn't joined the forces of evil?

No... I've said all along that I don't believe that Murtagh is evil. And he has joined the forces of evil.

I guess I'm not seeing what you're getting at.

Okay, I get it now! I agree that Murtagh is nort evil!

I still believe that the dragons are a sign of who is evil or not. Think about it....
Name one dragon that hatched for an evil rider.
Galby's dragon did not hatch for him when he was evil. It was his dragon's death and the inability to get a new dragon that led to his insanity and evilness.
His current dragon did not hatch for him, he stole it from another rider and then "twisted" it into his service.
Even the riders who served Galby were not evil at the time their dragons hatched. But they did stay with their riders after they turned.
So why would Thorn have hatched for Murtagh if he were evil? He wouldn't have, but like the others, he has stayed with his rider, no matter what choices were made.
Again there is the question of when Thorn hatched. I really don't believe it was before the battle of Farthen Dur. CP said we would find out how Murtagh's power and his dragon grew so quickly.
I think that after he was brought back to Galby, the dragon hatched, Galby forced Murtagh under his control, and then somehow used his powers to make Thorn and Murtagh's power grow rapidly in order to have another weapon against Eragon.

I agree with you there!

I agree with you on the main points- but Murtagh never swore to kill Eragon. He swore to /try/ to take Eragon to Galby. ^^v

One thing I think of when I think of Murtagh is that he is a good person, but he is egocentric and values his own life above all else. There are two mentions of this in the book Murtagh talking about no life or set of lives worth more than his own. Its just a theory but who knows it may be a deciding moral dilemma as Murtagh may get the oath broken, but will die to help Eragon, vs. living with or without the oath. He may finally choose the righteous path and give his life for the cause. Just a thought.

I do agree with you. I was wondering why Thorn would choose Murtagh if he was evil. It doesn't make sense to me.

unless thorn is an evil dragon, but i dont think so.

Finally someone who see beyond likes and dislikes and sees facts!
I was told at another site and I quote: "To die or submit isnt much of a choice. you have to think about how you would do in a predicament like that. Would you die for what you believe in, or save your self by giving that up?"

Murtagh was too attached to living. He says so on different occasion during the first book. He conveniently erased from his memory all he told Eragon when they were waiting audience before Ajihad. He's evil! The only good thing he did after, choosing Galbatorix and his life, was not taking Eragon/Saphira to Galbatorix. HE WOULD HAVE NOT KILLED THEM. He was ORDERED TO TAKE THEM ALIVE before Galbatorix. As I said previously, I just hope that for the friendship that once existed between them, and knowing Eragon is of kin will earn him some kind of forgiveness.

Again he knew Galbatorix was evil and would force him into doing evil:
"At my last birthday, when I turned eighteen, the king summoned me to his quarters for a private dinner. The message surprised me because I had always distanced myself from the court and had rarely met him. We'd talked before, but always within earshot of eavesdropping nobles.

"I accepted the offer, of course, aware that it would be unwise to refuse. The meal was sumptuous, but throughout it his black eyes never left me His gaze was disconcerting; it seemed that he was searching for something hidden in my face. I didn't know what to make of it and I did my best to provide polite conversation, but he refused to talk, and I soon ceased my efforts." Eragon 389

This has been bugging me ever since I first read it, it seems to me that he was reading Murtagh's mind and that he must have known then and there that one egg would hatch for Murtagh.

The moment Murtagh valued his life over so many thousands and thousands of other people, he became evil. He re-affirmed this when he killed Hrothgar. I don't think that when the dwarves, specifically Orik, find this out they will exactly eager to embrace or forgive Murtagh or the Dwarven realm for that matter. And I really, really hope he DIES in the last book!

This is a quote that I've said before:

~~~
"Annie, I'm not saying that Murtagh will come back to the 'good side'. I'm saying that he's not an evil guy. Yes, he has joined the forces of evil, but he's not evil.

This is a bad example, but take Darth Vader from Star Wars. He was on the evil side, did evil things, but in the end he was good. Anakin made poor choices that ultimately led him to the 'dark side'. But there 'was still good in him' as Luke put it. And sure enough, in the end Darth Vader did give up his life to save Luke. And no, he didn't give up his life 'for the many'- he joined the Emporer when he was found in the end of Episode III."
~~~

And now to the above posts (Annie's specifically):

I totally disagree. And I resent your first comment about seeing the 'facts'. You can't prove anymore than I that Murtagh is good or bad. Information and hints are there- but they can go both ways. You just interpret them different than me and the others who see Murtagh as a redeemable character. Yes, his motives are questionable, but answer me this, Annie:

Why did Murtagh let Eragon go knowing that Galbatroix didn't want that and knowing that he'd probaby be punished for it? Why would he do that if he was indeed evil? If he really was wicked and on Galby's side totally- why would he do that? If it was so he can have a 'final showdown' with Eragon later, why did he tell Eragon to make sure that their paths don't cross again? He obviously felt some kind of compassion or something- which is gives us a ligament reason to believe he can 'come back'.

And we don't know a lot about Thorn.

I still stand by what I've said before. And there's no need to 'slight' people of the opposite beliefs than your own.

And back to your Yin and Yang comment- Evil does NOT exist on it's own. Evil is a falling away from the good. So the comment you made about there needing to be a 'balance' isn't accurate. No one should say there /needs/ to be evil- because the world would be a better place without it.. And don't come back and say that things would be better if Murtagh died in Eldest or something- because you don't know what his purpose will be in book 3.

Murtagh cannot be 'evil' because he has done good by letting Eragon and Saphira go. And it could be that he very well is evil and will die in the next book- but you just don't know. So don't bring up these 'facts' because you don't know anymore than I do.

Listen:

I do NOT care that you think Murtagh is evil. I wouldn't care that you said "I hate Murtagh and I wish death upon him" on your deathbed. That has nothing to do with me.

But comments like this just tick me off:

Quote: "Finally someone who see beyond likes and dislikes and sees facts!" Followed by dancing smilies.

I can EASILY say that about you.

We have our opinions, none of us know for sure- so don't give me that "Everyone who believes Murtagh is evil has seen the light!" crap. Honestly, if you want people to heed what you have to say- don't turn people off in the first statement.

I like Murtagh- so what of it? I like him so I'd like him to be good. That's natural. You don't like him, it seems. Which is natural too. So what? I can easily say that you don't see beyond your 'likes' and 'dislikes' and that you see don't facts.

None of us know for sure. I just can't stand those kinds of comments that indirectly put the opposing side down. Because of that comment, I can /almost/ see you as the type who'd be like "Haha I told you so!" if indeed, things do turn out as you want. If you don't want others to see that character trait in you, be more tactful.

And in response to your response to the Yin and Yang. Murtagh would've 'unbalanced' the equilibrium anyway. The fact of the matter is that he's a Dragon Rider. If he was fighting with Eragon- the balance still would've been broken. So that point is irrelevant. No one can deny that Murtagh is a Dragon Rider.

And also remember that this is the internet, you need to be more careful when you express yourself because people reading what you've written can't see the emotions or the feelings that were put into it when it was being written.

If you want to discuss/argue this more then let's take it to PMs so we don't clog up a perfectly good topic with this.

Princess Elayna, you are now making personal attacks, and I believe you are way out of line. You joined this site at the end of December so you may not be aware; as every older member is, that I am a smiley and an exclamation point fan!! I have gone way back to the first page re-reading the full topic, and there is no personal attack on my part.

I have repeated over and over the fact that just because I do not agree with a theory or belief, does not mean I believe in forcing them upon other members. Therefore, I do not need to accept personal attacks from you or from any person. I have not been disrespectful, I have not belittled you or your opinions and I certainly have not ridiculed you!

It would be much appreciate you refrain yourself form this kind of posts. I sincerely hope this is the end of this issue. We are here to place forth theories, thoughts and beliefs! We are all lovers of the Inheritance Series, regardless of which characters we sympathize with, like or dislike. And I have always said; it’s Christopher Paolini who has the last word on it all. Until then everything is just speculation on our behalf!