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 Galbatorix doesn't really knows murtagh's true name 

does galby know murtagh's true name
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Post Galbatorix doesn't really knows murtagh's true name
is it possible that galby doesn't know murtaghs true name, only ordered to say that so that eragon would not try to find a way around his oaths? if galby knew murtaghs name, he would want to be controlling him while he was fighting eragon.
this is just a guess, but do you think it's possible?

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This is a really good topic :D I think that galby was just blufing and made mughrta swear that he would tell eragon that. This would {he hopes} put eragon at a mental dissadvantage in hopes he would change sides.


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he couldn't have just found it out
there's got to be something else

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since we really dnt no alot about how people find out there true names im not really sure if hes bluffing but it could b possible

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whoops..... i accidentally said no.....

Galby seems to be the kind of person who DISPLAYS his power, not just talks about it.

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but how do u think galby lerned his real name? I thought only elves could know a person true name.

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galby IS the most powerful being in Alagaesia. he probably has his ways.

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thats true id like to know more about him cause all we relly know about him is that hes the most powerfull and hes evil.

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is it possible that galby doesn't know murtaghs true name, only ordered to say that so that eragon would not try to find a way around his oaths? if galby knew murtaghs name, he would want to be controlling him while he was fighting eragon.
this is just a guess, but do you think it's possible?

thats a really good question...i havent even thought of that before! if galby didnt know their true names and was just bluffing, murtagh and thorn could have resisted, couldnt they? if he did, he wouldnt have left any wiggle room for murtagh, meaning no loop holes in the oaths...

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eragon might also be able to figure a way out to change your mind in the ancient language, and then tell murtagh

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what if murtagh said "i will not serve galbatorix" in the ancient language, what would happen? will his oaths to galby be broken? or would there be a magic overload and he dies?

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i think he would die, because then that's like... dumb

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im pretty sure the only way to break an oath is for the person you swore watever to is for them to die: that being galby

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i think he'll find a way around it, but anything's possible.

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I'MNOTCRAZY wrote:
galby IS the most powerful being in Alagaesia. he probably has his ways.


just because he is the most powerfull being, doesn't mean he can do everthing everyone else can

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i know, but if anyone can, he can.

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that's exactly what i just said is not necessarily true.

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here, there's whole long argument that i won here:

http://www.freepowerboards.com/alagaesi ... bout3.html

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i don't know, i think murtagh is torn, he has tasted power and likes it, but he hated galby, i think its possible that galby knows his name, but HOW i dont know, and i think that murtagh may be more evil than good, he doesn't care for anyone more than himself or thorn. i dont' know if Galby does, becasue HOW is hard

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he likes power yes, so after he is done training with galby we will leave and tell eragon everything galby knows!

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maybe.

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maybe he knew thorns real name somehow as he has had the egg for so long or something and then once the egg hatched for murtagh this dragon was in a bit of a weird positon as he had to be loyal to his rider but galby knows his true name, then maybe i dunno somehow a dragon knows there riders true name even if its just subconciously and he got murtaghs that way

bit of a complecated theory i know , and its a bit of a random one , but does anyone think there could be any truth in it?


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but how do u think galby lerned his real name? I thought only elves could know a person true name.



having an elf tell you isnt the only way

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maybe he knew thorns real name somehow as he has had the egg for so long or something and then once the egg hatched for murtagh this dragon was in a bit of a weird positon as he had to be loyal to his rider but galby knows his true name, then maybe i dunno somehow a dragon knows there riders true name even if its just subconciously and he got murtaghs that way

bit of a complecated theory i know , and its a bit of a random one , but does anyone think there could be any truth in it?


except then he would know saphira's name.

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maybe he knew thorns real name somehow as he has had the egg for so long or something and then once the egg hatched for murtagh this dragon was in a bit of a weird positon as he had to be loyal to his rider but galby knows his true name, then maybe i dunno somehow a dragon knows there riders true name even if its just subconciously and he got murtaghs that way

bit of a complecated theory i know , and its a bit of a random one , but does anyone think there could be any truth in it?



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except then he would know saphira's name



yeh , i didn't think of that, except i suppose saphira's egg had been travelling between the varden and the elves for a while before it came to eragon,

so maybe as he will have had thorn's egg longest maybe he knows only that ones

ah! just spotted a hole in that though, then he would know greenies name too and the next rider would be in big trouble, hmmm unless galby kept thorn's egg at ur'bean and greenies in helgrind or somehting so if either was attacked only one was taken , well thats what i would do anyway.

Is it possible that galby has an elf working for him? or did he just hunt around in murtagh or thorns minds till he found it ? is that even possible?

i suppose murtagh could have already known his true name somehow , he lived at the palace for years and has traveled all over trying to avoid galby so maybe he knew and offerd galby it to protect thorn somehow? i don't know.. theres so many different answers lol


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and i doubt he would know their name just beceause.

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Does it matter, he made them swear loyalty for him.


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Galby could've been bluffing about that^^;;; But if Galby truly did know Murtagh's real name, that'll make sense as to why he was /forced/ to swear to serve him.

However, he could be bluffing about knowing Eragon's true name.

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If Galby knew his true name would he have to make him swear loyalty to him?


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If Galby had Eragons true name wouldnt he be able to control what Eragon could and couldn't do?

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Murtagh isn't stupid, when Galby said he knew Murtagh and Thorn's true names, there must be a proof of that to make Murtagh believed.

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he didnt say that he knew eragons name.. he ment murtagh and thorn...

and i think he really does... if i remember he seemed kinda upset when he said that.. like it had affected him in ways he didnt like...

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hmm, well, if he knew murtaghs name, cant he figure out eragon's name 2? so i think he doesnt really know.

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how could he figure out eragons name from murtagh???

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If Galby doesn't really know Murtaghs true name then doesn't that mean Murtagh killed the Dwarf King of his own free will?

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well if he could somehow make him swear to in the AL without knowing his name but how likely is that???

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EldestFreak10 wrote:
but how do u think galby lerned his real name? I thought only elves could know a person true name.


that's where you're wrong if u actually PAID ATTENTION it says that elves are born with the knowledge of their true names and that other people have gone on quests to find their true names but some are driven mad by it and others gain power over themselves by truly knowing who they are.

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uhhh acctually HES RIGHT!!!!!

an elf can find another persons true name... it says you can go on a quest or ask an elf to tell you but they usually wont because it sometimes drives people insane...

you would know that if you acctually PAID ATTENTION...

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lol mayb galby THINKS he knows eragon's real name, but it still might not b true, but since he thinks its to be true, he can say it in the AL


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well thats also a big thing...
i think that what murtagh ment was that galby know murtagh and thorns name, not eragons name... but some 9like you im guessing) dont think that...

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March 19th, 2007, 2:35 am Profile
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I wonder how galby knew murty's true name if only elves had that knowledge. perhpas an elvil elf told him?

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March 19th, 2007, 8:42 am Profile
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we dont know... but i think that elves just know a way to find you true name... and maybe glaby discovered it... something they can do instinctively he has learned to do...

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Alfakyn~elda wrote:
we dont know... but i think that elves just know a way to find you true name... and maybe glaby discovered it... something they can do instinctively he has learned to do...


Maybe the elves frind out through the vault of souls or something?

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