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Post Something of interest.
I was re-reading Eldest yesterday (for the 17th time and counting) and I discovered something of interest. Here it is. For those of you wondering where I found this, it's that song the elf Nari sang on the way to Ellesmera. I'm going to type the whole song in case there are hidden clues in the words to it, beside the one I found. It's in caps, in case you can't tell what I'm excited about:

"O!
The day is done;the stars are bright;
The leaves are still; the moon is white!
Laugh at woe and laugh at foe, MENOA'S SCION NOW IS SAFE THIS NIGHT!

A FOREST CHILD WE LOST TO STRIFE;
A SYLVAN DAUGHTER CAUGHT BY LIFE!
FREED OF FEAR AND FREED OF FLAME,
SHE TORE A RIDER FROM THE SHADOWS RIFE!

AGAIN THE DRAGONS RISE ON WING,
AND WE AVENGE THEIR SUFFERING!
Strong of blade and strong of arm,
The time is ripe for us to kill a king!

O!

The wind is soft;the river deep;
The trees are tall; the birds do sleep!
Laugh at woe and laugh at foe,
The hour has arrived for joy to reap!"


So, what do you people think the caps part means? Could "Menoa's scion" be the weapon that Solembum was talking about in the first book? I wouldn't have a clue because I don't know what a scion is. I'll go look it up on google...

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Post Re: Something of interest.
Scion ~ a descendant or heir.

I don't know what it means. Maybe its Arya. Maybe something happens to Eragon and she saves him. Like how he save her life. I dunno. :?

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At the moment I am analizing it. I'll get back to tou with my interpretation!

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Post Re: Something of interest.
Oooohhhhh.... I thought that it might be that weapon he is supposed to get from under the Menoa tree... :oops:

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Post Re: Something of interest.
You know what...I have more to say on this, but like AnnieBee I'm going to do some thinking on this. In my re reading of Eldest I usually skip over that part for the parts involving Eragon and Arya. LOL :lol: :oops:

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Post Re: Something of interest.
OK, as I promised you Saphirarox, this is what I was able to pick up from the song!


"O!
The day is done; the stars are bright;
The leaves are still; the moon is white!
Laugh at woe and laugh at foe, MENOA'S SCION NOW IS SAFE THIS NIGHT!
(Menoa’s scion can refer to both Ayra and Eragon under my interpretation. Why because both were physically in a safe territory away from Galbatorix as well as from the Varden’s struggles.
A FOREST CHILD WE LOST TO STRIFE;
(This also may have a dual meaning: Ayra can be considered as the child lost to fight or struggle to become her own person; against the wishes of her mother, Queen Islanzadí.
Or it can mean she was lost to her people in order to be an active part of the resistance, who is actively struggling against the Empire.

A SYLVAN DAUGHTER CAUGHT BY LIFE!
As Sylvan is defined as a spirit that lives in or frequents the woods, we can say that Ayra’s spirit lingers in the woods of Ellesmera, where she is loved by her people. It can also refer to her roots, her beginnings and where she comes from.
FREED OF FEAR AND FREED OF FLAME,
Freed from the fear of Saphira’s egg falling into the wrong hands, perhaps?
Now that Saphira has hatched for the good side, this is one fear less.
However, freed of flame? I first thought about Durza having captured Ayra, but at this point of the story, they do not have this information yet! So I don’t have any other thought for the moment.

SHE TORE A RIDER FROM THE SHADOWS RIFE!
Here we have the female pronoun that in effect confirms that it’s Ayra to whom they are singing! I just cannot understand how was it that they figured out she tore the Rider from increasing shadows as it was the other way round.

The rest of the song is kind of self-explanatory!

AGAIN THE DRAGONS RISE ON WING,
AND WE AVENGE THEIR SUFFERING!
Strong of blade and strong of arm,
The time is ripe for us to kill a king!

O!

The wind is soft; the river deep;
The trees are tall; the birds do sleep!
Laugh at woe and laugh at foe,
The hour has arrived for joy to reap!"

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Post Re: Something of interest.
hmmmmmm.... interesting analyzation. It does seem as though they are singing for Arya, but then again, they could just as well be singing for Saphira :D since she is like a god to the elves. And I'm not saying that just so I can smile at Saphira's :D name again, although that last time was so I could smile at Saphira's :D name. Darn, I did it again! Anyways, that certainly is true. There is a double-meaning in their song, but I wouldn't say that it is directed immediately at Arya. Perhaps a premonition of what is to come...?

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I think anniebee's cleared up most of the song bit and with i-luv-saphira's premonitions, good luck in developing powers not understood by the human world 8)

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Wow that is really cool! it could refer to Eragon or Arya probably more Arya seeing as she is a girl and the song refers to a she... but what about someone we haven't heard of yet it is possible...

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IDK, but that would be a big risk at this stage of the series. And maybe a seasoned writer could pull it off, but someone as young in the profession as Paolini? IDK!! Maybe he can! But it would be a HUGE risk!

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I see these but i am going to add my own posts and opinions...[quote="AnnieBee"]OK, as I promised you Saphirarox, this is what I was able to pick up from the song!


"O!
The day is done; the stars are bright;
The leaves are still; the moon is white!
Laugh at woe and laugh at foe, MENOA'S SCION NOW IS SAFE THIS NIGHT!
(Menoa’s scion can refer to both Ayra and Eragon under my interpretation. Why because both were physically in a safe territory away from Galbatorix as well as from the Varden’s struggles.I think that that deffinatlly refers to arya...
A FOREST CHILD WE LOST TO STRIFE;
(This also may have a dual meaning: Ayra can be considered as the child lost to fight or struggle to become her own person; against the wishes of her mother, Queen Islanzadí.
Or it can mean she was lost to her people in order to be an active part of the resistance, who is actively struggling against the Empire.
Arya seems to be the first to mind, but this also seems to refer to The elf who became the menoa tree...
A SYLVAN DAUGHTER CAUGHT BY LIFE!
As Sylvan is defined as a spirit that lives in or frequents the woods, we can say that Ayra’s spirit lingers in the woods of Ellesmera, where she is loved by her people. It can also refer to her roots, her beginnings and where she comes from. Once again, this points to The elf who became the Menoa tree... sorry i cant think of her name... She fits this the Sylvan description and she got distressed about what all was going on in her life...
FREED OF FEAR AND FREED OF FLAME,
Freed from the fear of Saphira’s egg falling into the wrong hands, perhaps?
Now that Saphira has hatched for the good side, this is one fear less.
However, freed of flame? I first thought about Durza having captured Ayra, but at this point of the story, they do not have this information yet! So I don’t have any other thought for the moment.
Again the tree girl...She no loger feared the things that drove her to the tree anyway... DOnt know about the flame...
SHE TORE A RIDER FROM THE SHADOWS RIFE!
Here we have the female pronoun that in effect confirms that it’s Ayra to whom they are singing! I just cannot understand how was it that they figured out she tore the Rider from increasing shadows as it was the other way round. And guess who i think this points to???!!! RIGHT!!!! TREE GIRL!!!I dont know exactlly what this could mean... but we never know what might have happened in her life...

The rest of the song is kind of self-explanatory! I agree... this is pretty much obvious...

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LOL!!! Alfa!! You made my day! The "Tree Girl's name is Linnea!

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thanks annie... i have a hard time wiht the names of minor characters, expcially when the name is wierd...

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That's the woman who waited for her guy to return. And doesn't her family have Brom's sword?

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nah i think ive got the meaning of menoas scion...remember the lady who sang herself into the tree? im pretty sure thats what menoas scion is....how can a tree have a baby?well technically it can but still...

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Are you refering to a seed as a baby from a tree?

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yeah lol i meant a seed...not like it sprouts another tree from itself...lol that would be quite odd

but yeah i think menoas scion is that lady


edit: oh DUH it is that lady

A FOREST CHILD WE LOST TO STRIFE;
(ok forest child is the lady,lost to strife as in they lost her cuz she was sad(strife))
A SYLVAN DAUGHTER CAUGHT BY LIFE!
(sylvan...dont know what it means lol,but im guessing it has 2 do with that lady and she was caught buy life i guess OK IDK)
FREED OF FEAR AND FREED OF FLAME
(ok lady again,freed of life is what this line means pretty much...so yeah she freed herself from the anguish of life :) )

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I cant figure out what it means


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Annie will know, ask her when she comes back.

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Annie will know, ask her when she comes back.

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Uuuhhh... Scarecrow? You just posted the same thing twice? Were you trying to edit something?

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