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Come. Express your thoughts, share your sorrow, and explain what happened and why at Virginia Tech yesterday :cry:

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The university shooting, right? Man, that was even on the news here :cry: So sad. I'm glad you're not allowed guns here- tragedies like that can be avoided.

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They had just defeated a bill that would have let students carry guns on school grounds- as long as they had a permit. So guns werent allowed..

It is a great tragedy, and is THE WORST in American History. Columbine was technically the worst, but this one had the most loss of lives.

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I meant you're not allowed guns in my whole country, not just my school.

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Oh :lol:

That is actually kind of overdoing it..but its alright I guess.

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lol, yeah but here you don't hear of people shooting family members by accident :| I can't believe somebody would do that though :cry: Such a pointless waste of lives.

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No one shoots their family by accident(except reall dodos). THey do it for no reason, mainly because theyre on drugs or something. Or they hate them so much that they kill them.

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Just search "Shot by accident in USA" in google, and over a million results come up, with hundreds of stories. Guns are rediculous. They cause more accidents and increase crime than they do protect people.

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that was really sad. i couldnt imagine what it be like being in tha school at the time.

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Yeah, and how their family and friends must feel too :cry:

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ya i couldnt imagine what it would be like for my brother or one of my parents to die.

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What happened!? im gona go look it up, sounds sad :(

I just found this story:
In one the classrooms on the second floor (where the gunman was shooting) The students heard shooting and screams...two of the students recognized it clearly before the others (this account comes from one...I beleive his name was Eric Calhoun). He began to flip desks for cover, while his counterpart bailed out the window along with others. Eric stayed to til the last moment and headed for the window. Just as he jumped out the window, he glanced back...and there was his professor, a Serbian-a brilliant mind in his field, a leading researcher, as I understand. Then Eric escaped. That professor was found dead, killed by the gunman that he was to delay in order to save his students.

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im crying so much :cry: . why would someone kill some one else? thats horrible! if u wanna kill someone, kill urself, not someone else. or better yet, dont kill neone atall. dotn mess up others lifes cuz of ur problems.

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I agrre what kind of ideot would kill people becuase his girlfriend broke up with him.

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thats sad n pathetic.

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it is a very sad and tragic thing... the worst since columbine. its also very sad that they had no way of communicating across campus... like in a high school they can call on the phone or the PA system...

and firetounge is right, there are accidental shootings in the US... usually children who dont know how to properlly handle a firearm... its thier parents fauls for not keeping them locked up... there is nothing wrong with guns... people use them in the wrong way and people get hurt...

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Hey, ever heard that song "I don't like Mondays" written by Bob Geldof and performed by the Boomtown Rats? Not many people know, but it is actually about a 16 year old girl who shot 2 adults, 8 children and a police officer. When somebody asked her why, she said "I don't like Mondays." Pretty sad, it reminds me of this. :cry:

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no i havent heard it... but i still hold that guns are not bad... in the wrong hands they can do horrific things however...
guns dont kill people, people kill people

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o goodie. it's so glad that people r able 2 share their feelings about this atrocity. keep this up. it really helps :)

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At least 33 people died and more hurt,, that's terrible!! I got a goosebumps when listening to the news.. :( it's just like sicko movies,, a mass murderer, except,, the horror becomes real.

Is anyone know the shooter identity and motive yet?

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The shooter is a South Korean exchange student that was majoring in English. Can't pronounce his name tho. Motive remains a mystery, but the Virginia Tech police department is trying to figure it out now.

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I dont mean to get racist or anythign, but they think he was Muslim..

If you know anything about the history of Islam, you'll know that Ishmael was the 'founder' of the countries that would follow Islam.
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He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers. (NIV, Genesis 16)

(that is mainly what the world does to Islam, and Islam to it.)

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He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year." (Genesis 17)

There are 12 Islamic Nations(arab).

The shooter had on his arm written something along the lines of "Y'ishmal"



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael

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Fronzz, you should know better than to discuss religion here. Fathskie is Muslim, and I don't believe it had anything to do with his faith. If a person who happened to be Christian did it, you wouldn't automatically blame it on their religion. Religion discussion ends here please.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6568781.stm has what the bbc has to say about the shooter.

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this is all so depressing...

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that is the healing process. aye, it is depressing. but it will help some people try and cope with it and help others understand why it happened. i apologize if this is a depressing topic, but it will help those on SF cope with this disaster, myself included.

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yes we shudnt discuss religious topics here...i am muslim as well...and even if the killer guy was a muslim doesnt mean he did it cuz of dat, he was mentally disturbed, so plz lets not get into religion. ok sry bout dat, continue...

they released pics and a vid of the killer on cnn.com. apparently he was "forced to do it".


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i apologize beforehand, but that is bs. he was not sick in the mind. he just wanted immortality and he wanted revenge. so he thought, "hm, why don't i go and kill 32 people? i'll get my vengeance AND i'll become famous."

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Whoops,, careful ppl :P

btw,, the killer is an American citizens (with South Korean ethnics, FYI -- not that it matters, but I don't think a Korean is a muslim, really small percentage of that). All the evidences found suggested that he was 'pissed off' with rich kids and.. not very clear,, but the guess is that man had some rage against the system, so he killed many ppl.
One of the 33 victims was from my nation, Indonesia :( The victim was doing dissertation (to be Ph.D or something). So unlucky...

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that and the fact that he was weird in the mind! he used to write weird stories in english class, his teacher referred him to the guidance counselor, and he even went to the police once because of his strange behavior. plus he used to stalk girls, like following them around and sending them emails. if this isnt being mentally disturbed, then i dont kno wat is


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It makes me really mad when people waste life when so many people out there are struggling to hold on to it from having some sort of illness.

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I no its like why would some ideot run around and deside to kill people. Then he kills his self why was it nesisry for him to kill so many people it didn't make a point execpt there are ideots in the world and kill people.

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he apparentlly wrote some very disturbing papers that disturbed his proffesorrs so much they reffered him to the university guidence councilor... he also made a box of tapes, pictures and letters explaining why he did all this... between the first and second shootings there were about two hours where no one knew where he was... apparentlly he went back to his dorm room, sealed all these things inside a box and mailed them to NBC (i think that was the station)... then went back to school and started shooting again...
in some of his english papers he talked about spoiled rich kids and how they didnt deserve what they had... in some of the tapes he mailed to NBC (again im not 100% sure on the station name) he just kept saying he didnt have to do this but they made him do it...

that sounds like a mentaly unstable person to me...
oh and those tapes and pictures were taken/recorded almost a week prior to the shooting...

there was accrually a quite famous American poet who teaches at that university, named Nikki Giovanni who previouslly had him and class and he disturbed her so much that she said either the university would remove him from her class or she would quit...

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yep i heard all this stuff too. did u watch the vid of him on cnn.com? he's rlly creepy! apparently they took out the more creepy scenes or sumthin


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I don't get CNN (live in another part of the world) how was it? What "creepy" things?? Like.. 'unsettling' or 'freak' or.. what kind ??

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I saw those clips that he mailed to NBC on CNN and court TV and MSNBC and all those other news channels. He was going on about how people were infecting his mind with cancer or raping his mind or something like that. He talked about how he had to protect his chrilden and his brothers and sisters. Then he talked about religion. This guy was nuts and its sad that people knew about and didn't act on it when they had the chance. It was clear that he was showing signs of what he was about to do. Geeze! and those pictures that he also sent with the video clips were creepy.

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What do you all think about the media reporting on it? I watched the news yesterday, and they showed pictures of signs stuck up everywhere saying things like "Virginia Tech stay strong, Media stay away." I think that's unfair, surely they want to let other people know about the tragedy, and let them mourn for lives lost too?

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The media skews EVERYTHING, so they dont want something coming out that isnt the truth.

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I don't know about there, but here, they pretty much tell it as it is, and it's not messed with people's opinions. In this incident especially, they only really reported known facts so far.

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The media in the U.S. is bias toward anythign that might give anything good to Bush or wahtever(sorry for the politics but im just saying)..so its all skewed, lol

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the media has kinda been too involved in this case. all the news channels jus keep on showing dat guys pic over and over. i mean, they shud focus more on the ppl who lost their loved ones, not dat psychotic, insane lunatic!


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agreed. i saw this forensic psychologist on GMA yesterday and he said that we need to stop talking about him because with all this publicity, he is achieving what he set out to do: immortality. the media should definitely focus more on the people hurt by this, not the guy who did the crime itself.

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Firetongue wrote:
What do you all think about the media reporting on it? I watched the news yesterday, and they showed pictures of signs stuck up everywhere saying things like "Virginia Tech stay strong, Media stay away." I think that's unfair, surely they want to let other people know about the tragedy, and let them mourn for lives lost too?


well can you really blame people for wanting to have a little privacy to mourn without the media constantlly reminding them what theyve gone through??? They have enough pain to sort out. they dont need it prolonged by the media bringing it up over and over and over...

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I don't know what to say about it... it's really sad.

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