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xwon3
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Angela
Alright. There is definitely something more to Angela, as demonstrated when she, Eragon, Arya and Wyrda were attacking dras-leona.
So.
She magically kills everyone in the room. WHAT?!?!? I forget who she said she was taught by but wow. So what do we see from this? That she was taught by someone extremely powerful.
Point #2
She says something along the lines of "If you knew who I was you wouldn't have dared try to stop me" to the priest. She then whispers something in the priest in his ear, followed by him promptly screaming with fear.... What does this mean? Angela has a big reputation under a different name that is known to one of Galbatorix's followers, and not just a minor one, he is the head priest, which means he is up pretty high on the food chain. Therefore, Angela must have much, much, much more reputation for him to scream in terror like that, and keep in mind the priest isn't afraid of Eragon really at the least. Holy Reputation Batman!
Class time ill finish this later.
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November 15th, 2011, 1:20 pm |
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Re: Angela
All you little children that haven't finished the book, look away. SPOILERSSPOILERSSPOILERS
Remember when Galbatorix was telling the story of the soothsayer to Nasuada as he was torturing her? Yeah, I'm thinking Angela's the soothsayer. And her teacher was Tenga, that mad magician guy Eragon met in Brisingr.
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November 15th, 2011, 4:35 pm |
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xwon3
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Re: Angela
I forget who was the soothsayer? I forget the specifics.
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November 15th, 2011, 6:43 pm |
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Saphirarox
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Re: Angela
It never said who she was exactly, only that she wasn't an elf or a dwarf....
Pg. 421
"...Who she was and where she went, none can say for sure. She had no name other than the title Soothsayer, and certain stories lead me to believe she was neither elf nor dwarf but something else entirely..." -Galbatorix
The Soothsayer was waaaaaaaayyyy before the time of humans on Alagaeisa, so that's why he didn't mention them. From the way Angela always seems to know what's going on without anybody telling her and a lot of the other strange things about her, I think it's highly likely it's her.
I'm just gonna assume that people reading this topic know there are gonna be spoilers, so I'm not gonna put the ginormous warning again.
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November 15th, 2011, 6:51 pm |
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xwon3
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Re: Angela
Oh I see. Yeah people should know by now since Louis Global Announcement.
I was thinking that the other possibility would be Angela being Selena. Extremely powerful from being taught by Morzan/Tenga who went mad because he had been serving Galby in a round about way.
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November 15th, 2011, 6:56 pm |
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Re: Angela
I don't think so. When Eragon was talking about her with Oromis, Oromis described her to him and then said she sounded like a human spellcaster that had visited Ellesmera before the fall of the Riders. So she's too old to be Selena.
Circumstantial I know.
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November 15th, 2011, 7:04 pm |
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xwon3
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Re: Angela
Maybe, what about that girl with the scars? Could Galby have faked the death of her in Carvahall and kept her in Urubaen as a prisoner and she escaped and started attacking Galbatorix's men.
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November 15th, 2011, 7:10 pm |
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Saphirarox
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Re: Angela
There's already some speculation about that, and a topic to.
But, I will say this. Selena died at Morzan's castle, she made it that far after she left Eragon with Garrow and Marian. I think it's entirely possible that she's the scar-lady though. Even though Eragon saw a fairth of his mother we never found out exactly how strong she was with magic, so she could have changed her appearance.
Back on topic...
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November 15th, 2011, 7:19 pm |
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xwon3
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Re: Angela
So then who is Angela Truely, she must have either been very powerful, or involved with galby. Or a DR that had it's Dragon die?
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November 15th, 2011, 7:22 pm |
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Saphirarox
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Re: Angela
She wasn't involved with Galby, but she's definitely powerful. Just check out how she killed those guys underneath the "church" in Drahs-Leona. I've considered the fact that she might be an ex-Rider, but I don't know anymore... After Saphira died Brom aged. Angela still looks pretty young, and her dragon would have died either during or before the Fall, so she would have aged a fair bit since then.
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November 15th, 2011, 7:33 pm |
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xwon3
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Re: Angela
But who knows what she can do to prevent aging with magic. It's something that she would know about.
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November 16th, 2011, 12:49 am |
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Re: Angela
True... Idk, I don't think she's a Rider, but I can't prove she's not.
Why do I have a feeling CP purposefully orchestrated this particular conundrum with her character?
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November 16th, 2011, 4:09 pm |
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xwon3
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Re: Angela
Obviously he did... everything he writes he purposely does
But there is definitely something missing from her.
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November 17th, 2011, 1:12 pm |
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Re: Angela
Hmm, I remember a quote about why she looks so young, something about her having to eat herbs when times were lean... I think it may have been in Tronjheim sometime, or maybe Tierm, but that could explain why she hadn't aged if she was an ex-Rider.
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November 17th, 2011, 11:39 pm |
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Re: Angela
It was in Teirm And I've never been sure what to make of that remark....
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November 18th, 2011, 3:46 am |
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xwon3
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Re: Angela
Lol, it could be just that she is skilled in making herbs/potions. Also maybe she is extremely powerful and she just isn't trying very hard. It would also explain why solembum follows her around if she is a ex-rider/selena/soothsayer/random person that somehow has become very strong for no apparent reason.
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November 18th, 2011, 1:00 pm |
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Re: Angela
The only thing that I really though that Angela could be was one of the grey Folk? Adapted with time and a race where she could fit in. I can't think of anything else she could be. And I was also pretty displeased that we didn't find out anything else about her. She is the main person I wanted to find out about in that book.
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November 26th, 2011, 1:32 am |
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Re: Angela
No no no!
Angela, as CP has so clearly pointed out, as well as Roran and Nasuada, never intended to be such major characters by the end of the series.
Now, if he never planned them to be some important character, why would Angela be a ex-rider? or a Grey Folk? That's a pretty huge role for not being a major character.
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December 2nd, 2011, 2:59 am |
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Re: Angela
Not really. It doesn't have to mean that they would be a main character. But there isn't really anything else to explain her powers.
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December 2nd, 2011, 5:16 am |
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Re: Angela
i know its a bit of a stretch (lets be honest, a big big stretch) but im of the opinion that she might me a time lord. crazy as it sounds it makes sense when you piece it all together.
yeah big leap of the imagination i know but think about it
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December 6th, 2011, 2:05 am |
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gomenesigh
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Re: Angela
So.... What exactly is a time lord? I don't recall anything of the sort being in the series.
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December 6th, 2011, 3:09 am |
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Re: Angela
its a "doctor who" thing. CP makes more then a few references in the book and acknowledges a big one in brisingr Quote: Also, for those who understand the reference to a "lonely god" when Eragon and Arya are sitting around a campfire, my only excuse in that the doctor can travel everywhere, even alternate realities. Hey im a fan too! during inheritance Solembum says something to the affect of "ive seen rooms that are bigger on the inside then they are on the outside" a clear reference to the Tardis which all time lords have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARDISthere are a few other instances where Angela is involved in references to the doctor but the other one i can think of off hand is near the end of the book (page 814 in the hardback). Angela is knitting a hat, eragon asks what it says and she replys ""Raxacori- oh never mind. it wouldn't mean anything to you" Raxacoricofallapatorius is a planet in the doctor who series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slitheen so yeah thats what my head is telling me. a time lord
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December 6th, 2011, 12:44 pm |
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Re: Angela
Lmbo!!! That occured to me to I was gonna ask him about it when I saw him in Southlake, but I had a hard enough time saying hi. I don't think she is though, but wouldn't it be hilarious if she was. Oh, and Solembum also mentioned "men who aged backwards", and something else. And each of the eleven Doctors have been younger than the one's before them...
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December 6th, 2011, 5:23 pm |
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Re: Angela
We may never know the truth behind Angela but CP does say something on the note as well that i havnt seen mentioned. Quote: Speaking of which, I’m sorry to have disappointed those of you who were hoping to learn more about Angela the herbalist, but she wouldn’t be half so interesting if we knew everything about her. However, if you ever meet my sister, Angela, you can always try asking her about her character. If she’s in a good mood, she might tell you something interesting. If not … well, you’ll probably get a funny quip nevertheless.
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December 6th, 2011, 8:12 pm |
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Re: Angela
... I'm all for Angela being a time lord.
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December 6th, 2011, 11:13 pm |
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Re: Angela
That is just...wrong...entirely wrong. If CP /did/ throw in a Timelady, that's infringement. If he admitted to throwing in a Timelady, that's blatant infringement.
I mean, slightly subtle references, I get. But other than that? I thought Inheritance was supposed to be a serious story, not a joke of some sort...
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January 4th, 2012, 5:52 pm |
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Re: Angela
Curf, don't get your feathers in a ruff.
I did read something about CP saying he's "almost convinced that Angela is a Timelady". But he was obviously joking, just like Marlow was. Obviously Angela can't be a Timelady.
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There's no such thing as sane, we're all crazy. Well hello Captain Obvious...Nice to meet you, I'm Lieutenant Sarcasm. >:) Something here doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a stick. - The Doctor
Amy: You threw the manual in a supernova? Why? Doctor: Because I disagreed with it! Now stop talking to me while I'm cross!
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January 5th, 2012, 5:25 pm |
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Curfewdawn
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Re: Angela
Ai Valar...
I wasn't cross or anything. I was just saying.
Perfectly aware that Angela can't possibly be a real Timelady. I just think CP could've thrown in a lot less Doctor Who references. Once, yeah, alright. But twice, three times? And so obviously? Please. That's too much. Wasn't fussing at Marlow. Just musing in a slightly-irritated way about CP and his jokes. That's all.
I do find it odd that there was never really an explanation of Angela's powers in the books themselves. And if she was really never meant to be in the background, it's hard to tell why she wound up with so much power and overall mystery. That sort of thing is usually reserved for mains.
But I've been thinking, CP did say he'd be writing more stories eventually. What if he pulls a series about Angela out of his hat? He can clearly see she's become pretty popular among the fans, so what if he decides to roll with it and turn his star-never-meant-to-be into a full character, giving her a story of her own?
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January 7th, 2012, 6:45 pm |
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Re: Angela
I keep forgetting that y'all may not be reading the same stuff I am...
CP said somewhere that originally, Angela was a minor character (I think he also said she was only supposed to be in the first book, but don't quote me on that), but she turned into something way more fun, and he kept her around. He never fully revealed her powers, because if he had "then she wouldn't be nearly as interesting, would she?"
And I definitely remember reading somewhere (most likely among those questions he was answering on Random Buzzers) about Angela's backstory playing a major part in Book V. (No, it's not another book in the Inheritance Cycle, it's just another book in Alagaesia.)
Lol, and I guess being a Whovian myself, I'm of the "Meh, it's his book and he's a fan, let'im run with it" category. Besides, I laugh when I spot one.
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kitsunemeio
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Re: Angela
So, I've been reading articles all over the place, reread the books and spent a lot of time thinking all because of this very subject. I've come to a conclusion that I would like to share with you. I warn that I will be repeating information already presented in earlier posts for the sake of presenting my ideas.
So, Angela first appeared in Tierm or however you spell the port city on part of Brom and Eragon's journey to visit Jeod. Here it is revealed she had met Selena, can predict the future, knows about Brom and has an unusual pet(kinda) in Solembum. Solembum is revealed to having a message for him and earlier in this topic it is suggested that the cats advice might be given because of knowledge of Angela(Assuming she is actually Selena), though I would like to point out that in the fourth book it is revealed the reason behind giving the information at this point is because of the hidden stash of eggs and hearts of hearts plan the Rider's concocted.
Beyond that, she appears at random times when important things are just about to happen. This is inclines me to believe she can predict the future in some way shape or form beyond the dragon knuckles. This idea is further supported by the spell she uses under the church in the fourth book to take down the large group in a flash. Afterword she states that line about time being energy or something. Can't remember specifics, but if you've read/own the book you might remember/be able to reference.
You also have to consider her knowledge of topics she should not have knowledge of. There are a couple instances where she shows knowledge of some secret or another that had only just become known to a small, select group who are either sworn to secrecy in the ancient language or are trustworthy to not warrent it. She has knowledge of the languages and customs or all the races. This is transparent from her ability to speak the languages, the respect she commands and her ability to do things others would not be able to get away with such as obtain the dwarf priest's weapon and incident with the king of the werecats.
The head priest being terrified of her secret identity and the statement of her supposed importance by Oromis go to show that she is someone who has made her mark on history, and I would push to say that her mark was made long ago. With her age being equivalent to being an "adult" in elven society goes to show she does not age considering appearance. She is referred to young in body and old of mind or something similar in the fourth book as well.
One additional point that has been missed is her large collection of powerful artifacts, from the dragon knuckles to the vast array of powerful weapons, she has obviously had time to build such an extensive collection.
The points I've mentioned, previously pointed out references and the mention of her not being elf, nor dwarf gives her the mysterious past that has captured the heart of many a fan. It also leads me to believe that she is the soothsayer referred to by Galbatorix in his 'hollowed ground'. Age, ability to see future, reputation, knowledge, the werecat and other facts I'm sure I've forgotten to mention all add up to her being someone truly important, whether the Author designed her to be so or not. To me, It all adds up to her being the soothsayer. In particular, her ability to know things points to this, though all the factors point to this as well.
Again this is my own opinion and I'm always open to suggestion.
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April 23rd, 2012, 10:44 am |
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Saphirarox
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Re: Angela
I have nothing to suggest, since this is my own opinion as well. No doubt you thought a lot about it, and you pointed out a lot of things I noticed, as well as some I overlooked. (Mainly the large cache of unusual artifacts and weapons she has.)
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Amy: You threw the manual in a supernova? Why? Doctor: Because I disagreed with it! Now stop talking to me while I'm cross!
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April 28th, 2012, 8:19 pm |
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shadowstalker
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Re: Angela
This is very interesting because those are all possibilities i have considered and still can't figure it out.
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May 3rd, 2012, 5:13 pm |
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Saphirarox
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Re: Angela
I think the term it would be safest to use for Angela is "enigma". What do y'all think?
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There's no such thing as sane, we're all crazy. Well hello Captain Obvious...Nice to meet you, I'm Lieutenant Sarcasm. >:) Something here doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a stick. - The Doctor
Amy: You threw the manual in a supernova? Why? Doctor: Because I disagreed with it! Now stop talking to me while I'm cross!
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May 3rd, 2012, 11:50 pm |
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shadowstalker
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Re: Angela
sorry to sound uneducated but what does enigma mean
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May 9th, 2012, 4:36 pm |
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Saphirarox
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Re: Angela
Referring to a person, enigma means "A person of puzzling or contradictory character"
And not knowing the definition of a word doesn't make you sound uneducated. It just further underlines the fact that I spend way too much time reading.
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There's no such thing as sane, we're all crazy. Well hello Captain Obvious...Nice to meet you, I'm Lieutenant Sarcasm. >:) Something here doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a stick. - The Doctor
Amy: You threw the manual in a supernova? Why? Doctor: Because I disagreed with it! Now stop talking to me while I'm cross!
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May 9th, 2012, 5:20 pm |
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shadowstalker
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Re: Angela
thanks by the way i dont spend enough time reading could you suggest any books
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gomenesigh
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Re: Angela
If you go to the Index and scroll down you will see an entire section about books. There you can see people's favorites and things.
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shadowstalker
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Re: Angela
k thanks for the tip i should have known that
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July 19th, 2012, 3:34 am |
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Saphirarox
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Re: Angela
Lol, how could you? You're still new
Anyways, Angela. Who wants to do a quick recap of what people have been saying? *not it*
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Amy: You threw the manual in a supernova? Why? Doctor: Because I disagreed with it! Now stop talking to me while I'm cross!
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July 21st, 2012, 11:15 pm |
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gomenesigh
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Re: Angela
Alright to sum it up: Angela was taught by someone powerful and has a very high reputation under another name, she may or may not be the soothsayer, we know that Tenga was her teacher at some point [And Morzan possibly?] (but could he be the powerful one who taught her the spell that allowed her to kill an entire hallway of people?), she might also be a rider, she ate lots of herbs and that could be why she looks so young, one of the Grey Folk possibly, Time Lord?...., can predict the future, has a history with many races (or all of them) and at least has intimate knowledge of all of them, and has a large amount of rare artifacts.
Annnd that is it so far. I think I like my idea of her being of the Grey Folk like I mentioned earlier. That with some correlation to the soothsayer thing.
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July 22nd, 2012, 4:33 am |
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Saphirarox
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Re: Angela
Well Galbatorix did say the Soothsayer wasn't an elf, dwarf, or human, so she could be both: Soothsayer and Grey Folk. Or maybe half-Grey Folk? Since it was said after they bound magic to the Ancient Language they kind of lost their power (not really, it just faded really bad) and started co-mingling with the younger races so as not to die out completely.
Her being half-Grey Folk would make more sense to me since she obviously doesn't seem to be faded in power or vitality.
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There's no such thing as sane, we're all crazy. Well hello Captain Obvious...Nice to meet you, I'm Lieutenant Sarcasm. >:) Something here doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a stick. - The Doctor
Amy: You threw the manual in a supernova? Why? Doctor: Because I disagreed with it! Now stop talking to me while I'm cross!
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July 22nd, 2012, 7:22 pm |
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gomenesigh
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Re: Angela
If she is only half Grey Folk it makes me wonder what her other half is. It would have to be human unless CP decided to word it that she wasn't a full elf or dwarf. And if she is half it makes me wonder why there aren't more like her. Like would she be the only one (And I only say this because of course by half I think you mean the Grey Folk mated with another race) and if she's not where are the others and have they been in Alagaesia this entire time? Either way Angela was based on his sister right? She must be pretty astonished/ proud that a character made after her is so loved.
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July 22nd, 2012, 10:11 pm |
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Saphirarox
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Re: Angela
Lol, from what I can gather of her personality via her Twitter posts, she's more like. "Muahahaha...muahaha...I have MINIONS!!!"
Anyways...
Yes, you are right in assuming I mean she's half Grey Folk and half of one of the younger races. I'm leaning towards human, since that's what she looks like. I'm sure there are others, but where they could be I have no idea. (Maybe Tenga is one?)
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There's no such thing as sane, we're all crazy. Well hello Captain Obvious...Nice to meet you, I'm Lieutenant Sarcasm. >:) Something here doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a stick. - The Doctor
Amy: You threw the manual in a supernova? Why? Doctor: Because I disagreed with it! Now stop talking to me while I'm cross!
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gomenesigh
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Re: Angela
All I really want is for the next book to come out and learn more about her! I'm very interested in learning where Eragon went as well and what is really beyond the border of Alagaesia. Though from our knowledge of Angela alone it doesn't seem like it will be too exciting right now since she didn't go with them. Of course she probably has other reasons to stay as well.
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July 24th, 2012, 11:12 pm |
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Saphirarox
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Re: Angela
We're assuming that she's going to be the main character though. What if she gets an apprentice and that's who the main character is?
I'm not sure if Eragon will be in these next books or not. I think CP will want to give that portion of the world to grow up a little more and get a bit better established before diving into it. (Of course, this is me also assuming that he doesn't do a major time skip.)
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There's no such thing as sane, we're all crazy. Well hello Captain Obvious...Nice to meet you, I'm Lieutenant Sarcasm. >:) Something here doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a stick. - The Doctor
Amy: You threw the manual in a supernova? Why? Doctor: Because I disagreed with it! Now stop talking to me while I'm cross!
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