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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Roran doesn't want the throne either. The only thing he wants is to go back to Carvahall and rebuild his home.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Eragon and Arya are shadeslayers which makes them practically equals since they only accomplish this together. That might be a clue to her becoming the next dragon rider.


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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
That may not be true. The both of them combined made her kill the shade whereas Eragon by himself killed Durza. Arya may not be the next rider. it's too obvious.

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She motioned toward where Varaug had been. “We killed him. . . . We killed him, and yet we did not die.” She sounded surprised. “So few have ever killed a Shade and lived.”
“That is because they fought alone, not together, like us.”
“No, not like us.”
“I had you to help me in Farthen Dûr, and you had me to help you here.”
“Yes.”
“Now I shall have to call you Shadeslayer.”
“We are both—”


Eragon and Arya themselves said it, it is quite true. Like I said, it might be a clue, no guarantees but I find this evidence much more tangible than associating characters with the color green.


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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Eragon didn't kill Durza alone. He would have been killed if Arya and Saphira hadn't come down through the star rose. Just because they did that together does not make them equal in any way. Arya is much older and much wiser than Eragon.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Just because they did that together does not make them equal in any way.

Yes it does. Eragon said it himself, "I had you to help me in Farthen Dûr, and you had me to help you here.” And Arya agreed. They both only succeeded in killing a shade because of the other's help. That gives them equal footing. Moreover since killing shades is a very rare feat, it shows how well they complement each other to have killed two together. I think only two have done it before and again like Eragon said, they fought alone, not together like himself and Arya.


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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
If Arya hadn't been there in Farthen Dur, Eragon would have died. Arya would have died in Feinster if she tried to fight the shade herself.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
You can't consider Arya in the first shade battle because she didn't fight at all. She only posed a distraction and was mainly Saphira who did it.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Actually you can. If Arya hadn't broken the Star Rose Eragon would have died.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
And that is exactly what Saphira did.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
I can consider Arya because Eragon does.

Also it was Arya who smashed the star sapphire. However it was Saphira who put it back together albeit with Eragon's help.


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Arya broke the Star Rose and Saphira carried her down.

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Yes that is exactly what happened

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
I think Arya's main contribution was stopping all of the pieces of the star rose from crashing into the ground, smashing and killing Eragon.

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Arya smashed the star sapphire and then stopped the pieces from killing Eragon. It showed how powerful she is but the experience almost killed her.


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Finally someone understands!! I think that Arya is the most likely person to be the next dragon rider.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
i dont think arya or roran will be the new rider what about vanir

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Nah! Why would it be him. Plus, they need a girl.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
I don't think it will be him either. It contradicts that Eragon has gone through so much and how Vanir mocked him and then how Eragon overcame that. I think it will be one of the strangers.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
I agree with you on the Vanir part, but not on the strangers part. I know that they are going to have a role in book 4, but I just don't think one of them will be the next dragon rider.

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i dont think arya should be the next rider. she's too old for that. islanzadi will die and arya will become the queen of elves. roran should be the next rider. but katrina always says that he is braver than the riders because he fights without magic. nasuada should'nt be either. maybe a new character will turn up ??? and arya wont be eragons lady love. once again she is too old. did u think about the grey folk that oromis spoke of? maybe its one of them.???


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CP can't introduce another character. There's only one book left.

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He's the writer he can do whatever he want. If the book is as long as I think it might be, he has plenty of time to do so.

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How long do you think it will be?

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Well, at least 700 pages. There is a lot that will be going on in the last book.

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Even if it is that long, I don't think there will be a new dragon rider character.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Dragon rider character? Maybe not, but it's unlikely there won't be at least one new character brought in even if they aren't that important.

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Of course there will be new characters, but I don't think that there will be any important ones.

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im not so sure, but i cant see cp making arya the new rider. some things can be very obvious, but not really that predictable


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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
eragon+arya wrote:
Of course there will be new characters, but I don't think that there will be any important ones.


There might be. CP could introduce a new character or explore an old not so major character and make them important.

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It could be that girl who had visited the Varden camp with the older woman that Eragon has blessed.
Can't remember exactly, but wasn't it mentioned that her arms were strong like a blacksmiths apprentice?
That would make her fighting style quite compatible with the thrusting and cutting :D

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Oh, dear lord. How many has actually seen CPs interviews?
Arya is the only one who can be the next rider. Unles you are calling CP for a liar. This is why:

What CP has said.
1. CP has said that the rider will be "logic inevitability"
2. The rider has to have been in all three books so far.
3. CP has said that there is clues in the books about who the next rider is.
And the only thing that can count as clues for any character is the constant referring Arya with the colour Green. (the colour that the egg has)
4. CP has said that book four continues the adventures of Eragon, Saphira and Arya.
He didn’t just said Eragon and Saphira. He also said Arya. Take it for what you want

Being logic inevitability means that the rider will make sence. The new rider must be able to carry out the duty. And face it. All humans would be to weak. They would always lack in speed, strenght, magic, powers, knowlege. And we are in the middle of an war. We don't have the time nor place to do it. And here comes the good part. CP has also said that Arya was special trained by Oromis for many years. She also alredy knows the rider secrets.
And the rider has to have been in the first three books. Arya is the only elf who has been in all books. CP has also said that he IS puting Arya and Eragon on an equal footing.
And with the clues, Arya is the only one who has constant being around dragons. Saphira since she hatched and Glaedr before with Oromis.
CP has said that the last dragon will be green. And Arya has always been refered to that colour. Her eyes, magic and much more.

If any one wan't to disagree due to that they personaly don't like it, please do notice how much fact you are ignoring. And if you are ignoring facts, I sugest that you don't bother to post. Because that is not having a debate.

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1st of all you have no right to tell people not to post. Anyone can do it if they want. If they have other opinions on who the next rider is than they have every right to.

By saying humans are too weak you are saying that Eragon is to weak to be a rider so there is really no point to him being one and therefore no point to the series. Not to mention that Eragon is not exceptional in any of the things you said. Where did it say that Arya knows the rider secrets? She didn't know about the heart of hearts, so you can't assume that she knows rider secrets just because she trained with Oromis.

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1st of all you have no right to tell people not to post. Anyone can do it if they want. If they have other opinions on who the next rider is than they have every right to.

I know. And that is why I puted it as an sugestion. Try to read what I say next time. You would learn so much more then.

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By saying humans are too weak you are saying that Eragon is to weak to be a rider so there is really no point to him being one and therefore no point to the series. Not to mention that Eragon is not exceptional in any of the things you said.

I don't know if you missed the book called Brisingr or if you just ignored thing you didn't liked. Any way. Eragon was transformed and got the strenght, speed and mind of an elf. He is not a weak human any more.

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Where did it say that Arya knows the rider secrets? She didn't know about the heart of hearts, so you can't assume that she knows rider secrets just because she trained with Oromis.

You really need to read the books =/
As said, she was trained by Oromis. In a time far extending Eragon's. She had many years of training. And if you remember in Brisingr with Aryas grass ship, she was using one of the riders most secret knowledge.
Being able to drain energy from the sourundings.
And the secrets is nothing. It's just for shadowing. If she didn't alredy knew it it would take eragon and minute to tell her. And before that she would still have been the strongest and only logical choice.
Instead of asking so many questions, you should try to read or reread the books.

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And no lol I don't learn from obnoxious people. You still have no right to "suggest" for people not to post. I have read the books, many times. Maybe you should go back and read them. He was a normal human for most of the series and when he was picked to become a rider, he was a human, which was during this war. And so its back to assuming. Because she knew that one thing, that obviously means she knows everything, right? She definitely knew about the heart of hearts, who knows what else she knows? You can't assume that just because she knows one thing that she knows it all.

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Maybe you should go back and read them. He was a normal human for most of the series and when he was picked to become a rider, he was a human, which was during this war.


Which was one of the reasons why some elves reacted to Eragon like Vanir did. However....

Why does Eragon have to be an elf? Technically, he's neither an elf nor a full human. He's something in-between now, as he has to be if he's to have even the slightest hope of ever defeating Galbatorix.

That's from CP. Humans aren't too weak to become riders but it does seem more likely that the next rider will be an elf.


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By saying humans are too weak you are saying that Eragon is to weak to be a rider so there is really no point to him being one and therefore no point to the series.


Actually, I quite agree with The [b]Librarian's logic. Here, you are wrong. Eragon has had three books and the Agaeti Blodhren to accelerate his powers. The next rider won't. Even after six months, Eragon couldn't even fight seriously with a Shade, and Eragon was said to be a fast learner. However, Murtagh and Galbatorix are much more powerful than Shades. Therefore any human rider would only serve as a liability.

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Not to mention that Eragon is not exceptional in any of the things you said.


Actually, Brom said that he was a naturally good swordsman, and that Eragon was unique to use magic as he did with Brisingr on his first attempt.

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Where did it say that Arya knows the rider secrets?


In an interview of Paolini's.

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She didn't know about the heart of hearts, so you can't assume that she knows rider secrets just because she trained with Oromis. [/b]


But she did know how to draw energy from her surroundings, and Paolini has even said that her training excels Eragon's.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Arya is the next rider.. She's had "Rider Only" training, this is proved when she makes the boat out of grass that will feed off land as it flies around, This draining magic wasnt just taught to regular riders.. remember it was Oromis who said that only after a rider had been well a rider for quite sometime that they would be taught this magic as it was too dangerous.

Roran is not going to be the next rider. one he's human and they cant wait to teach him all that is necesary not to mention that he would watch as his wife and kids would all die around him because of how long he would live... a king maybe but not the next rider.

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