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beor mountains
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Could energy be stored in Isidar Mithrim?
The massive jewel is still shattered at the end of Eldest but if Saphira could somehow fix it like she promised, could energy be stored in it? If it were possible it could contain weeks worth of energy from both eragon and saphira. Even Galbatorix and Mortagh combined would be no match for that much power. Obvously it would be extremely difficult to transport the stone but if the dwarves could find a way, Eragon would have an almost infinite supply of energy in a faceoff against the evil king and his servant. Tell me what you think.
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December 22nd, 2006, 5:34 am |
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Kaerasman
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true. i also dont know by what means Isidar Mithrim would be transported, but if eragon and saphira could somehow lure Galby, Shuriken(however its spelled), Murtagh, and Thorn to Farthen Dur, they'd destroy all four in a flourish of magic. the only problem with that is the intricate dwarven network that separates Farthen Dur from the outside world. hmm...
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December 22nd, 2006, 6:13 am |
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*Angela*
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I think Isadar Mithrim could store energy but i don't think it could store enough energy to kill Galbatorix, Shruikan, Murtagh, and Thorn...
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December 23rd, 2006, 1:17 am |
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Lord Zaragonth
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yeah I agree with you Angela. Perhaps instead it will serve as a method of replinshing lost energy from a harh dilema of some sort instead
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December 23rd, 2006, 2:34 am |
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*Angela*
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yup, me too
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December 23rd, 2006, 8:11 pm |
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argetlam_svit-kona
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i think it could be too, but i don't think there will be another battle at farthen dur, so they woudl have to have a way of transportation.
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December 23rd, 2006, 8:23 pm |
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osilon
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i think that much energy might be enought to kill either murtagh and/or thorn but if one is killed the other will be very easy to kill considering the pain and the fact that half your mind died, you'd either die instantly or your would fall over blinded by pain or meybe even faint. if Isidar Mithrim is a stone than energy can be stored within it. So your definitley right. if they somehow lured murtagh and thorn there they'd be dead. but the labrinth wouldbe a problem...intersting thinking.
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December 23rd, 2006, 9:18 pm |
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Lord Zaragonth
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Yah for all we know the jewl could be the key to Murthugs and Thorn's demies
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December 23rd, 2006, 11:11 pm |
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*Angela*
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yup, anything can happen
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December 24th, 2006, 12:56 am |
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Lord Zaragonth
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Yup I completley agree wiht you Angela!!!
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December 24th, 2006, 1:49 am |
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Ajihad
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ya im not sure if your theory is right or not but i do think that the stone will have some purpose in book three, or else cp wouldnt have made such a big deal about it
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December 24th, 2006, 4:38 am |
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argetlam_svit-kona
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did murtagh ever see the Isidar Mithrim when he was in farthen dur , he was locked up for the most of it , and when he was realeased , he fought and then ent off chasing urgals.
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December 24th, 2006, 1:57 pm |
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Dragonzroc
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the isadar mithrim is a very big gem and could hold masses of power. i rekon it could be enough to kill galby coz once hes killed murtagh would be free.
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December 24th, 2006, 6:59 pm |
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Ajihad
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If galby is killed then would murtagh be free?
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December 24th, 2006, 7:23 pm |
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brisingr_ebrithil
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it depends on the oath he was made swear i think
say he swore: i will serve you until the day u die:murtagh free wen galby die
say he swore : I will fight for wot u believe froever :mutagh not free wen galby die
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December 24th, 2006, 8:00 pm |
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Ajihad
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ok so can someone clear this up for me: does murtagh actually want to serve galby or is he only doing it because he swore he would in the AL. i know that galby made him swear but didnt murtagh say that he really liked galby's plans about extending his empire.
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December 24th, 2006, 8:05 pm |
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brisingr_ebrithil
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he doesnt want 2 hurt eragon he wants eragon 2 join galby wit him but he is blinded by galbys lies of how he will bring back riders.... so yes he likes galbys ideas i think....
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December 24th, 2006, 8:15 pm |
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*Angela*
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yes, exactly Galby has told him exactly what he wants to hear so far and remember Murtagh didn't think the whole government was corrupt
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December 24th, 2006, 9:27 pm |
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Ajihad
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o ok. can eragon shoot "energy" like murtagh shot at hrothgar
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December 24th, 2006, 9:35 pm |
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Lord Zaragonth
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LOl perhaps, but we don't no the true extent of is powers besides physicaly taht is
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December 24th, 2006, 11:53 pm |
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*Angela*
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depends probably he can all it would depend on is his strenght and his knowledge of the Ancient Language sooo
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December 28th, 2006, 7:17 pm |
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OrikTheMighty
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Ajihad wrote: o ok. can eragon shoot "energy" like murtagh shot at hrothgar
gotta know the ancient word for "shoot energy"
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Alfakyn~elda
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I think Isadar Mithrim would hold a freaking lot of energy, deffinnattly enough to kill galby i think. and then shrurin would either die or be really easy to kill. THink of how big it was. There were a ton of caves big enough to house dragons in it. it was probbably 50 to 70 yards long at least. ya never know how much space the dwarves allowed for the dragons. and then it had to be at lest that high. Eragon lasted an entire day of fightting with twelve stones small enoughi to fit in a belt, and the stone on za'roc's pomel. think you have a point there. but im not sure weather it will play any role at all if any in the next book. it would be amazinglly hard to transport, and to get that uch energy into it would be hard to.
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December 29th, 2006, 1:46 am |
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Alfakyn~elda
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I think Isadar Mithrim would hold a freaking lot of energy, deffinnattly enough to kill galby i think. and then shrurin would either die or be really easy to kill. THink of how big it was. There were a ton of caves big enough to house dragons in it. it was probbably 50 to 70 yards long at least. ya never know how much space the dwarves allowed for the dragons. and then it had to be at lest that high. Eragon lasted an entire day of fightting with twelve stones small enoughi to fit in a belt, and the stone on za'roc's pomel. think you have a point there. but im not sure weather it will play any role at all if any in the next book. it would be amazinglly hard to transport, and to get that uch energy into it would be hard to.
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Lord Zaragonth
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Opps you double posted their please try not to do that its not permited on these fourms!!
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December 29th, 2006, 3:17 am |
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Alfakyn~elda
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sorry. i ususally check to make sure i dont hit the button twice. i would have deleted it if you hadnt posted under me.
gosh you just HAVE to mess everything up dont you!!!
jk. lol
ill just have to make sure i check more consistantlly.
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December 29th, 2006, 3:39 am |
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Lord Zaragonth
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Thats great to here now where we?
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Alfakyn~elda
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uhh, the thing would hold a fraking lot of energy, would be really hard to trasport, and i dont think it will play that big a role in the next book. i think that sums it up...
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December 29th, 2006, 3:57 am |
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Lord Zaragonth
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yep that defiantly does!!
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December 29th, 2006, 4:00 am |
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Alfakyn~elda
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oh, so close to catching you on the 4 word spamming rule...
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December 29th, 2006, 4:02 am |
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Lord Zaragonth
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Lol your despreate arn't you?
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Alfakyn~elda
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does it show??? but you just caught me on it so i just couldnt help saying it.
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December 29th, 2006, 4:05 am |
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Lord Zaragonth
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Lol your new here so it occurs thus their's really no prevnting it unless i inform you to stop like I stated eariler
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December 29th, 2006, 4:06 am |
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Alfakyn~elda
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thanks for the heads up. so what were we talking about???
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December 29th, 2006, 4:17 am |
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Lord Zaragonth
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Just simmply summing up this whole concept
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Alfakyn~elda
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which concept. we spent solong on spam i forgot... hang on let me check the title again...
ok . the big jewel in the dwarf capital. in not even gonna try and spell it or the name of the capital. any way...
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December 29th, 2006, 4:22 am |
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Lord Zaragonth
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yeah we were summing up wether Eragon would exploit it as an engery source during the 3rd book (refer to the previous page if your lost)
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December 29th, 2006, 4:25 am |
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Alfakyn~elda
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oh yeah. i dont think he will. to hard to move and would take a whole lot of energy, but ya know they wouldnt have to fill it... but still, i dont think the dwarves would allow it out of the city after what happened to it INside the city. theyd be to protective of it. and wather or not they could even consider using it would depend on the new king.
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December 29th, 2006, 4:41 am |
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Ajihad
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i think it would be kind of cool if eragon used the stone to kill some human troops but if he used the stone's stored energy i would be dissapointed. im hoping that he will learn some really cool secrets about the AL in book three and then use those secrets to fight galby.
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December 31st, 2006, 10:24 pm |
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Lord Zaragonth
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But it could still asssit him nonetheless
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elvenwitch_95
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That could be a possiblity..... I'm thinking about it.
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January 1st, 2007, 1:39 am |
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Lord Zaragonth
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Their is an equivelent pssoiblity for each perspecitve of this stiuation for isntance wether it will occur (50%) oppsoed to wether it will not (50%)
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I agree with you! 50/50 chance if it is going to happen!
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January 1st, 2007, 1:46 am |
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Lord Zaragonth
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Yep but this is simply we know genrally nothing of waht will occur in the next book for all we no The Isdiar Mithirm could not be re-built due to Saphira's curreent obligation to fight agniast the Empire
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January 1st, 2007, 1:52 am |
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Ajihad
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How does saphira even know that she will be able to rebuild the stone. she said that she cant control her powers, magic just somehow happens in strange ways and she doesnt understand why or how.
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January 1st, 2007, 11:33 pm |
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Lord Zaragonth
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She said she would attempt it though obviosley out of sympathy that is
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January 1st, 2007, 11:43 pm |
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Ajihad
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o ok i was confused
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January 1st, 2007, 11:52 pm |
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Lord Zaragonth
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Yup and now its disputaibele wehter she will or not
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Alfakyn~elda
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YAY ANOTHER DISPUTE!!!
i thnk she wil. i dont know how but she will. she will have found a way to control magic or maybe Glader taught her, or sumthing but i think it WILL happen.
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Lord Zaragonth
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Yeah she can't just make a promise and hope they will forget, she is obligued to this task and she must fufil it otherwsie it would insult the dwarves
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January 2nd, 2007, 2:56 am |
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Ajihad
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Alfakyn~elda wrote: YAY ANOTHER DISPUTE!!! i thnk she wil. i dont know how but she will. she will have found a way to control magic or maybe Glader taught her, or sumthing but i think it WILL happen.
i like that idea about glaedr teaching he to control her powers, although im not sure the extent of control she will have
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January 2nd, 2007, 4:32 am |
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Pita
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Maybe, but it would not be useful until saphira fixed it.
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