I know a lot of people hated it but I liked it. It ended the Saga well.

People are stupid who think that in EVERY vampire series they are all alike. Thats BS. In some they can have kids, in some they cant. In some they can eat human food, in some they cant. In some the sun burns them, in some it doesnt. GET OVER IT

I dont think it was that grafic, anyone else woulda made it a lot worse.

I'm happy Jacob found someone, anyone disgusted that he imprinted on a child needs to get a chill pill. He is NOT in love with yet. At this time he just loves her, wants to protect her and take care of her. Hello, QUIL?

I liked it, regardless of what people say.

I had heard a rumor about Nessie but I thought it was crazy and never come true so I was shocked too.

I got ENDLESS lulz from reviews of this book on dA.
Too true for words:


One I really laughed at:


same person as above:


lol...



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People don't get the whole "imprinting" thing. Does NO ONE remember Quil? He imprinted on a 5 year old!

When the shape-shifters imprint on younger children they are NOT "i wanna marry you this second" in love with them!!!! At that point they do love them but almost in a big sibling way. They want to protect and make them happy. When they get older YES they'll love them but they arent IN LOVE now.

I personally liked the Renesmee Carlie. Its different. At least they didnt NAME her Nessie. >_>

Yes, Edward is perfect but the whole story has not been.
Don't judge a book by its cover.

I agree with the above
*hurries off to get Eclipse*

This is the part when Jacob tells Bella about Quil imprinting on Claire, the two-year-old. (pg. 175)

Jacob: Claire is two.
Bella: Quil... imprinted... with a two-year-old?
Jacob: It happens. Or so the stories say.
Bella: But she's a baby.
...
Jacob: You're making judgments, I can see it on your face.
Bella: Sorry, but it sounds really creepy.
Jacob: It's not like that; you've got it all wrong. I've seen what it's like, through his eyes. There's nothing romantic about it at all, not for Quil, not now. It's so hard to describe. It's not like love at first sight, really. It's more like... gravity moves. When you see her, suddenly it's not the earth holding you here anymore. She does. And nothing matters more than her. And you would do anything for her.... You become whatever she needs you to be, whether that's a protector, or a lover, or a friend, or a brother. Quil will be the best, kindest big brother any kid ever had. There isn't a toddler on the planet that will be more carefully looked after than that little girl will be. And then, when she's older and needs a friend, he'll be more understanding , trustworthy, and reliable than anyone she knows. And then, when she's grown up, they'll be as happy as Emily and Sam.
Bella: Doesn't Claire get a choice here?
Jacob: Of course. But why wouldn't she choose him, in the end? He'll be her perfect match. Like he was designed for her alone.
From Eclipse by Stephenie Meyer
I hope I didn't break any copyright laws...

I don't really have a problem with Jacob imprinting on Renesmee, more that, I don't like how much it tie Jacob's and Bella's futures together and I don't particularly care for that.

I didn't think the 'graphic' parts were that bad. It was mainly just blood going everywhere. You can find way worse things on TV or in movies.

I do wish that Stephenie Meyer had better considered just how young some of her fans are when writing the honeymoon and other similar scenes. I know of a large group of former 7th graders who are avid fans of the Twilight series.

As a whole, I honestly don't know whether I loved the book or I hated it. As always, it was extremely well written, however, I strongly disliked some of the unexpected plot twists. I think I still like Twilight best, then Eclipse, and then New Moon, but I'm not sure where to put Breaking Dawn...

Does anyone else think it should have been split into two books? The first one could have ended in Renesmee's birth. I thought that Nessie's birth was too climatic to be put in the middle of the book.

It could have, but I think Smeyer did a good job of making it run smoothly. I loved the book and THANK YOU for quoting that! I'm so tired of people calling my jake a pedo >_<

so... it's basically saying, "Only when she's OLDER I'll doink her." THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE!!!

Crude much O.o?



Hello? Read.

Hello? Read. By doing this, he is MAKING himself her perfect match. SAME THING THERE.

Its a soul mate thing.
He isn't MAKING himself that way, he was born and destined to be with her.
Its like putting a puzzle together, all the pieces will fit perfectly you just have to find their match.

But still, it's still a stupid idea on the author's part. It seems like something that would happen in a bad fanfic, not the actual book. For the record, I've read PLENTY of various types of fanfiction, so I KNOW what kinda stuff you'd find in bad romance ones. This kinda thing isn't exactly unique... although it's not usual with babies... (still eww).

Have you even read the book(s) IMNC?

I've read excerpts. From what I've read and what I've heard, I can pretty much say I would never read it EVER... unless I want to die from excessive vomiting. XD

Yeah I figured as much.
I didn't take you as someone to be a fan of Smeyer

Yeah, since she took a vampire, disemboweled it, put a bunch of mushy crud in it, sewed it back up, sprinkled it with glitter, and still called it a vampire. Her version of "vampires" are vampires in name and name alone. She took everything great about the legend of vampires and took it away, putting in its place sissy traits and things you'd never find a vampire even think of.

Okay one thing everyone needs to get straight is EVERY author who writes about vampires changes them.
They are ALL different. Smeyer, Anne Rice, Laurell K. Hamilton, Bram Stoker, ect. They all have they're own little versions of vampires.

If you actually READ the books IMNC, you'd find they aren't as sissy as you think.

Shut up Wolv *punches him*

Alright so the conclusion to the Twilight Series left much to be desired in my opinion. First, a vampire kid, no offense SM but that's almost as stupid as Renesmee Carly (i pity the child). Then there's NO plot until Bella has her baby ,which is eating her (talk about an ungrateful kid). Which reminds me, does anyone remember how Bella wasn't a kid person? In the first 3 books she talks about how she doesn't want a kid and she doesn't even want to get married in the first place. Then in Breaking Dawn when her child is killing her she doesn't care. Very out of character. And I know Rosalie and Bella dealt with some of their issues in Eclispe but still it seems hard for me to believe that they became friends over night. Then Jacob, the only emotionally deep character in the whole book, goes and starts protecting the Cullens (all of whom he hates) and Sam is just like "ok, whatever" . Then he loses all feelings for Bella ( the chick he's been madly in love with for at least 2 books) and vise versa. Finally, SM majorly hints at a Jacob-Leah relationship for about 200 pages (which might have redeemed the story, for me at least) until he imprints on this half vampire infant. Jacob Black officially died at that moment and turned in to a whiney overly protective older brother. Almost immediately after the birth of her child, Bella's heart stops beating but of course the narrator of the story can't die in the middle of it. Predictably, Edward gives her CPR and then, abruptly turns her into a vampire. Bella experiences some discomfort but nothing like the horror of the newborns that SM spoke of in Eclipse. And, apparently due to her aversion to blood, Bella is totally immune to the blood lust that characterizes a vampire. Yeah, sure. Then to my utter confusion, Alice has a vision that the Volturi are coming (some action at least) to kill Renesmee. This whole new plot seems to come out of the blue. However, the Cullens, previously written as a kick butt, no nonsense family, just sit back and pretty much resign themselves to being completely and utterly destroyed. Still they go around trying to assemble an army of vampires to at least make themselves feel better. Alice and Jasper, the only ones who are still sane, run away and abandon their family. The vampire army seems pretty happy go lucky about defending this kid that they don't know against the Nazis of the vampire world. The Volturi come and as i brace myself for this big battle, nothing happens. Bella finds out her new vampire power, a shield which helps her protect the minds of those around as well as her own, and figures out how to use it after officially sucking at it before. So the Volturi just kinda stand there and everybody gives speeches. Then they just talk for 100 pgs. Then Alice and Jasper return with an adult half vampire and are like "he's not dangerous". ThE Volturi, this demonic fighting force, are like "fine ok we'll leave now". So everyone's all happy. Finally to put a cherry on top, Bella tells Charlie everything about vampires and the fact that she is one and he's totally fine with it. And at the very end we find that Charlie is falling for Sue Clearwater, Leah and Seth mom and widow of one of his best friends.
Although SM says this is her last Twilight book im worried. I sincerely hope that she doesn't continue the series with books about Jacob and Renesmee(the half-vampire that can have blood or human food but is still gorgeous, graceful, and charming) Oh and did i mention that Renesmee also has the vampire power to give others her thoughts and memories?
All in all, it was way to far fetched even for a Twilight book. I wishes SM would have stopped while she was ahead with Eclipse.

There was always a plot to this story, one we all knew would happen.
Bell and Edward getting married.

I think the Jacob/Leah relationship would be possible had Jacob not imprinted. I think Leah was falling for Jacob, a reason why she hated the Cullens so much. She knew they had his loyalty always.

Bella put aside the thoughts of having a child because she knew once she was bit, she would never have them so she tried not to want one. (Wouldnt you?). But once she was offered a baby she couldn't refuse. She began to love her right away. I mean come on with her power they probably spoke to each other without even knowing it.

Everyone knew Bella would be bit eventually, and being bit was how all the other Cullen's were saved so it makes sense that happened to Bella too. Edward knew the baby would kill Bella when it was born so he was prepared with his venom.

The only reason Rose and Bella became friends overnight is because Rose is a selfish (insert bad word here) and wanted Bella's baby for her own. Rose has always wanted a baby and she knows she cant have one. But she also knew this baby would kill Bella and I think she was always hoping Bella would drop dead and she could have the baby.

Bella's miracle change is described as being such because she had been preparing herself for months. Every other vampire got changed without knowing what would happen, Bella did know.

The Cullen's don't give up, they just fight differently than we humans do. They knew they didn't stand a chance if the Volturi didn't see the truth and they weren't about to just hand over Renesmee to them without a fight. They were prepared to fight if need be but they also knew if they did have to they would fail.

Charlie is NOT okay with everything that happens, but he loves Bella enough to just be like, "What I don't know can't hurt me."

I think this was a good ending to Bella's story (Yes this is just the end to BELLA's story, there will be more books. At least one possibly more)
I'm excited to see what Smeyer will do next.

I agree that Rose did want a baby but i don't think that she wanted Bella to drop dead. I don't think she would have minded had Bella died and left her the baby, but I think Rose respects Bella and knows that Edward loves her. The major thing i have an issue with is planning on SM part. If she wanted Bella to have a kid she should have been foreshadowing it a little (ex. when Rosalie was telling Bella her story she cold have said something about the immortal children) instead of just randomly springing it on us. I was expecting this to be a more action driven book that characterizes SM's writing. Don't get me wrong, she's an awesome writer and i love most of her stuff. It just seemed to me that she ran out of most of her plot with eclipse except for 1) Bella getting married 2) Jacob and his recovering from heart ache and maybe faling for Leah or he and edward having a fight ( but i guess that was sorta eclipse) 3) Bella turning into a vampire
I was merely disappointed that there were so many contridictions from past books and i rly hope there are better things to come.
Im definately looking forward to Midnight Sun!

Explaining it beforehand wouldn't have worked though because no one knew it was possible.

Midnight Sun should be good, but I dont think I can learn any more about the Bella/Edward relationship. I'd rather read a book from Nessie or Jacobs point of view.

Haha lucky for you Annie I'm not in the mood to yell at anyone

For vampire series? Rice, Stoker, and Ross. All classics. And Annie, I'm insulted by what you're insinuating.

Annie, as with most things, I have a line; a line of tolerance. I can accept that people have their own things about vampires, picking and choosing aspects from the old legends and contemporary ones stemming from more recent movies, such as Nosferatu. The second I heard they sparkled, that was WAAAY over the line. From there, you can't even SEE the line anymore. This, of course, was made worse by the fact that, from the aspects I've heard as with accounts I have read, a lot of the characters are Sues. I've read summaries, and at times I've gagged it seemed so clique.

You mean "cliche" IMNC?

Jacob won't necessarily die. If he phases on a routine basis then he won't get any older

I concur! I love the grocery list in your sig

Thats awesome. For some reason tho I always imagined Edward with black hair.

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I imagined him similar to Yagami Light from Death-Note, but with darker brown hair, although I read Twilight long before I ever saw Death Note lol. Must be a coincidence.

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I actually totally forgot he had bronze/auburn hair for a very long time... I just get this metal picture in my head and I can't get it out.

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ok well i just finally finished the book today (which cuz of school it has taken me forever) \

i was satisfied but i thought new moon and twilight were better umm i wouldnt have minded if they would have kicked the volturi butts i mena that would have been pretty cool Hahah but maybe that could be another book idk i liked it adn i thought that it is about time that jacob finally found someone!!! but im also glad that no one got hurt that is what i was waiting for!!!! adn the whole too gory thing it is kind of how u urself pictured it i mean like firetongue said we need somemore details let them fly!! (that might not be appropriate for younger people but hey im an adult hahaha jk)