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Post Angela For Rider!!
Some one needs to vote for an odd character! Not Arya!
If you are a:
Angela
Orik
Islandzadi (i know i spelled that wrong!)
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Selena (there's no hard proof she's dead, you know!!)
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Horst for Ryder, pm me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Power to those who believe the oddballs have a chance!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe I just wrote that!!!!!!

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Um... You kinda posted this in the wrong section... It should be posted in the "Rumors about the books" section. Don't make another topic, though. I'm sure a mod would be willing to move it.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Yup, that's what I was about to do. Except to Book 4 :)
I don't know if there's topics like this, I barely go in there anymore, so this might get locked by someone.

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Oops, just signed up yesterday. I have no clue what I'm doing as It's after midnite here *if that makes sense*

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Ya i know what you mean and so I hope it is roran.

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THANK YOU, Roran fan!!!!!!!

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Um im not a mod but I think that was spamming 5 words or more in each post but I still accedintily do that from time to time (every like 3 days.)by accedint. Ok so I want it to be roran but it probably wont.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
I don't think it will be Roran because I think CP is preparing him to become the king after Galby dies.

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Ya and If he was the rider I dont think alagaesia would want another king that is a dragonrider.

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Yeah totally. y'know that was a totally random post. luckily, im a totally random person.

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i think the only way roran will be a rider is if eragon finds a way to make katira imortal to

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good point. but after Saphira and the green dragon breed, she'll have a chance, right???

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that is if they do mate.

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That's how CP seems to be setting it up for. personally, Thorn and Saphira are closer to each others age.
Again, thow, just my opinion :D

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
The shady background characters in any story are who I usually expect to have a really important part in the end of it. So yea, it could be any of the people you listed there, angela for ryder.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Ya I agree but Saphira probably will not mate with thorn because of his sped up life cycle and all the children would have a sped up life cycles so the entire dragon race would be sped up and kind of disabled. In a way.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
No they wouldn't all have sped up life cycles. Galby has simply grown thorn really fast himself using a instantaneous spell and used spells to get rid of the side-effects. This spell will not affect any of thorn's kids as it is targeted at thorn and it does change his biology..

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Besides, dragons are immortal unless they die from disease or a person intentionally kills them, so even if the spell was passed down, it would kind of help the dragon race, making them reach adult-hood faster than ever before.

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Yes but if they grow fast the dragon will not be able to find out everything they need to in their earlier years. for example they might not learn or be able tp practice their flying as long and would be not as good in the air as the dragons used to be.

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It dosen't matter as the spells won't passed down galby has simply sung thorn's body bigger not made spell that means that he grows quicker.

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I was talking to Ben.

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so if the spell only makes thorn bigger he's like a giant hatchling :) :D :lol:

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Ya I guess you could say that. I wonder how big thorn would be right now if he didnt have to spell on him.

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i don't know maybe about 2 feet or so

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I think hed be bigger like about the size saphira was in eragon. He is about what 6 months old right?

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thorn hatched when murtagh was brought back to galby

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So basically around 6 months considering we don't know the exact time Eragon spends with the elves. Actually probably a bit less I would think between 4 months and 6.

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i thought it was one or two months

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It could be however this is also probably one of the screw-ups in the books. When Eragon comes back to the Fathen Dur he says he has only been away a couple of months but in the book in takes several weeks fro him to get to Ellesmera and he is training for at least 2 months.

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so we can say he is about 4-5 months old right?

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Yeah should be fine I think someone should just ask CP how old thorn really is?

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I think someone did in shurtugal.com

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Out of the characters you listed I think Angela ismost likely but if selena is alive there is another possibility. :?

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yes there is proof selena is dead. in book 3 i believe it said when morzan died she died a few weeks later. As if she couldn't live with her master dead. But its an interesting theory

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selena could have faked her own death and still be alive somewhere. And selena couldn't have been wolf - eyes because he would have recognized her from the fairth oromis gave her

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Selena is dead, we've had this discussion elsewhere. I can't be bothered to try to find it so you'll have to look it up yourself.

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She could have been reincarnated or the memory of her could still linger places. With the magic there, anything is possible.

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Again I say she could have FAKED HER OWN DEATH. DID U NOT LISTEN TO ME BEFORE

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The chances of her being alive are pretty much non existant. If she were still alive we probably would have seen something of her. I don't think she would wait to see Eragon.

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Magic in Alagaesia is not the same as magic from lets say Lord of the rings in the books there is no evidence of reincarnation or ghosts. The closest thing is spirits but Arya points out that we do not become spirits after we die.

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we cannot prove they don't become spirits when they die. Spirits can't communicate with us and thus cant tell us who they are. And yes selena might wait to see eragon

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The magic in Alagaesia has done countless things that no one can explain. No one can say that there aren't ghosts or anything of the nature. The only thing left for Selena would be to find protection or hide. She would be caught and returned to Galby if she stayed in the Empire and even though people despise her in the varden she could still help her son.

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1. They CAN communicate with spirits they CAN'T predict how they will react. Arya says that we DO NOT BECOME SPIRITS after we die.

2. Brom explains that magic means nothing in 'the lands of the dead' and if any one uses there strength to try and bring someone back from the dead they die. There are no records that prove that a ghost has ever been in Alagaesia anywhere in the books.

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Just because there i no proof doesn't mean they don't exist. They can BARELY communicate with spirits. They have to use the simplest terms and even then it is really really difficult and most times almost impossible.

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1. I think it's unlikely that CP is going introduce ghosts in the last book as for proof I could say Alagaesia was a piece of land in the middle of pacific which was going to be invaded by the U.S.A there is no proof to the contrary this dosen't mean however that my assumption is right.

2. My 1st point in my last post was directed at Rok.

3. Spirits aren't what we become when we die.
Brisingr pg 215 Eragon: "They aren't human spirits, are they? Nor elf, nor dwarf, nor those of any other creature. That is, they aren't ghosts. We don't become them after we die."

Arya: "No. And please do not ask me,...."

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Just because CP doesn't introduce them doesn't mean they aren't there. It just means that they aren't important and don't affect the other characters. Things also depend on whether they believe in ghosts and if Eragon doesn't that would just mean another conflict for him.

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Disprove that Alagaesia isn't an undiscovered continent on neptune and I will accept that there are ghosts in Alagaesia. Just because CP dosen't mention something dosen't mean it's true, equally it dosen't mean it's not true. However that's not a basis for arguing a that something is true this is because using said argument you could claim almost anything about Alageasia in fact you could make contradictory claims and both would be right using that logic.

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I just mean that if there are spirits in Alagaesia than there could be something just as similar to them.

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if they amend the pact between dragons elves and humans to include dwarves then it could be Orik, however since there is no one to do that (as far as I know) its most likely not going to be him so.. I suppose I will choose Angela since she is already versed in magick and the like to an extent..

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I don't think any dwarf would want to have a dragon.

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Orik did express that the dwarves were foolish for their history of holding grudges, against the dragons and basically everyone else. And was rather powerful in his speech about how if the dwarves had been a part of the pact then maybe they would be better off. Which got a reaction from a few of the other dwarves present. Furthermore he expressed to Eragon directly during their flight together that he could see why Eragon would enjoy the freedom of flying with Saphira (though he also states that its not natural for a dwarf to ride a dragon most likely out of fear of the height they would be flying at)

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He also says that he would rather stay on the ground.

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I don't think that there will be a dwarf rider. Of that list I think that the most likely person for rider is Roran.

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There is no way Solembaum will be a rider.... He is a werecat....

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him being a werecat is one good reason why he might be a rider :D :D :D

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No, it's the exact opposite. He cannot be a rider:
1. Werecats are not part of the bond so a dragon can never hatch for them. 2. There are not enough werecats to even try. We only know about two.
3. Having a werecat be a rider would not be good necessarily. They side with no one and don't have an alliance.

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we don't know what words are used in the spell and in the pact it could just be that only elves and humans are allowed too touch an egg. :D :D

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Either way, if only elves and humans can touch the eggs, werecats don't have a chance.

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It coul be Angela.She's the only character who is the least "obvious"to become a dragon rider,but she does magic things with dragon bones why should a dragon hatch for her?Isn't it a little insulting for dragons?

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No. Its not like she personally killed a dragon to get them. Saphira was never offended and I highly doubt any other dragon would be. There are reasons she has them. She could have asked a dragon if she could have them.

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What? ask a dragon for it's knucklebones. I can see that working. "Excuse me dragon can I chop off a paw, crippling you for life just so I can get some dragon knuckle bones." I think it's more likely she retrieved them from a battlefield.

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Ask a dragon for the knuckle bones of a dragon already deceased. There is a lot about Angela we do not know. If she was allowed into Ellesmera than she is older than most realize and dragons and riders might have trusted her.

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Could the knucklebones was Glaedr's?

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that would be cool but i think saphira would eat angela so i don't think so but i hope :D

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I doubt it would be Glaedr's. If it was then Oromis would remember her more clearly.

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i am am guesing that they aren't his otherwise saphira would kill angela and i don't think cp would kill his sisters charector :D

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Yeah you're right

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maybe not so much on saphira eating angela but cp might if she made him really mad i know i would :D

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Maybe she was once a Dragon Rider and her dragon died. she could have taken them from her dead dragon.

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that is very possible but why would she cut open her dead dragon just for a couple of bones :D

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I don't know. She could have taken them from a dragon of a dead Forsworn. :-k

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yeah that makes more sense but why would galby let her near the dead dragon :? i don't mean to make evry theory you come up imposslible sorry :(

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Angela isn't a Dragon Rider.

1. Oromis would remember if there was a living rider when Eragon described her.

2. Angela said that her magic comes mainly from potions and such. Dragon Rider magic is completely different.

3. She has no glowing palm scar.

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i think your resons aren't really good ones :(

1.Oromis might not of told eragon about that rider or he may not of even known about him/her.
2.She could of switched her kind of magic, just stopped using one kind and started using another.

3.And brom him his shinningpalm while in carvahall.

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1. No, Oromis vaguely remembers Angela and he would remember if she was a rider. That is not something she could hide.

2. You don't just switch magics, it doesn't work like that. She uses potions and plants. We know this.

3.He can not him. That doesn't even make sense. Brom also always wore gloves. Angela never does. Eragon would notice if there was something covering her hands or if it was being hidden by magic.

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I think that jaythe_wise means hid instead of him.Brom would remember angela if she was a dragon rider

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Brom is dead and even so when they did meet Angela he did not remember her at all and since Oromis remembers her description, it means she didn't change it herself.

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So...?Was Angela a rider or not?

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Angela is not a Rider.

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i think she is not but she was :)

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You don't stop being a rider. Your dragon can die but you will still be a rider. Even so if she was a rider, Oromis would definitely remember her but he doesn't.

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it did not show anything from his mind he could of easly kept that imformation from eragon :)

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There is no reason too. She is already a dangerous enemy of the Empire and so not telling that information would be pointless. It also burdens Eragon because if she was a rider than she could teach him now or could have in the past.

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Well she's obviously not just a human.

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She could be a human. The amount of energy it would take to keep a spell to change your appearance all the time would be tremendous and she obviously knows a lot about magic with her plants and who knows what else. She could just know how to make herself live longer.

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Yeah, I know she's human, but I don't think that she's just some human that learned about magic and has dragon knuckle bones.

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Well yeah she has to be someone of power. She's been to Ellesmera and even before humans were rarely let into any Elvin city.

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What are the possibilities of what she could be/

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I think she is just a very strong, wise, human who knows where to be. She does love to be where things are happening.

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But how could she know to go to the Varden in Eragon. She loves to be where things are happening, but how does she know where things are happening and when?

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If she has met people in the Varden she might know how to scry people. She probably knew to go to the Varden after Eragon met with her. She's been with the Varden before.

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Yeah, but I don't think that she'll be a rider.

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I don't either. She seems to be on the Varden's side and if she were a ride she would have told Eragon so she could train him more.

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She definetly wasn't a rider, and I din't think she's going to be.

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I agree with you

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Remember not to spam. You have to explain why you agree with them. I don't think she is a dragon rider because she wouldn't keep something like that from Eragon and Oromis would have remembered her more and Eragon would know because he has read about previous riders.

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but he didn't read about evry single rider that was ever in existance :)

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You don't know that and since he knows about all of them all the way back to Eragon, the first rider, we know he probably did.

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no there were hundreds of riders it is impossible for him to of read about evry rider!! :evil: :evil: :)

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If he can read an entire dictionary he can read about people. He read about entire cultures and histories among other things and reading about riders seems pretty important so I think Oromis would have him read about them.

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