Some things are PERSONAL! Saphira's perfect oppritunity has passed. She is either pretty clueless about how Eragon was feeling about what Murtagh said (which she's not), or she doesn't know. The big thing that Brom told Saphira that he didn't tell Eragon was that he was a Rider.

not may.. she does no

No she doesn't. Those things are how to get to the Varden and other such things. If she had the knoledge, she missed the point of nessesary when Eragon was told that Morzan was his father. She either doesn't know, or she magorly screwed up. The first one is WAY more likely.

I'MNOTCRAZY Much as I like you, you are starting to let yourself be blinded and that's not good.

"After we left Teirm and we were attacked by the Urgals, he told me many things, some of which I will not speak of unless necessary.Eragon 282

There is no way for the reader to know what were those "many things". Do not close yourself to the possibilities

AAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU!!!! THERE IS THE SLIGHT POSSIBLITY THAT SHE KNOWS, BUT WITHOUT SPECULATING WHAT WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO POINT TO, THE MOST REASONABLE ANSWER IS THAT SHE DOESNT KNOW!!!

Yes, but there is no evidence that Oromis told her not to tell Eragon. So the answer needing the least speculation is that she doesn't know!!!

Why is that funny??? I don't get what is funny about P.M. ing!!!

when did she say that it was funny

She had a laughing smile. this:

I was refering to this quote, and I've been having a hard time trying to keep up with the posts and the Private Messages, (AKA PM'S) I've exchanging PM's with a lot of people, so I was not fast enough to say what dragon lover said.

There is no evidence pointing to either side; not your side, not my side. We are ALL speculating, so we can't take it to the point that we feel either attacked or we attack. WE simply have no proof.

Yes I am aware of that, but she could have easily not known about it. AnnieBee, shouldn't you be using orange colored font now???

why cuz shes a mod?? i think she likes the blue font

NICE!!! where did you find that??

im taking one if you dont mind

Let's PLESE get back on topic!!!

The quote about Brom telling Saphira many things is too vague to be any sort of evidence.

I know, but he could have told her NOTHING MORE THAN WHAT WE KNOW AT THIS POINT!

How to get to the Varden, about other dragons, him being a Rider. That's a lot.

Yeah, but she would have told him by now.

no, she said she would tell him them when nessacry (sp)

It was nessesary to tell him as soon as he started thinking that he was Morzan's son!!!

dude i've told you this about 3 times ( i think ) it was at the end of the book, their wasnt time and it wasnt the right time to tell him anything yet.. she will probly have to ask oroimis if she can telll him the things

Well, I DOUBT that she knows as much as you credit her with!

too true, anniebee, too true. anyways, i really think that saphira knows more than what we credit her for knowing

Saphira doesn't know everything, but she has more knowledge than she lets on.

Yeah, like the secrets that Dragon's share with no one but their own race. But that is IT! Seriously...

I said more than she lets on. We all know that she learned dragon history.

No, secrets about dragons that she learned about from Glaedr.

Sorry, thats what I meant.

There isn't any evidence to suggest either one!

And to argue a theory, you need evidence!

Most of them should.

To what he told her, there was evidence that he told her stuff.

I know.

What he MAY have told her.

He most likely told her a good bit of information.

Yeah, but Brom being Eragaon's father, probably not.

There were plenty of times when it would have been a good time for her to tell him. I don't doubt her judgement, so the only reasonable thing to suspect is that she doesn't know.

but Saphira said that she whould told him information when is need of that information(or something like that)

He kinda WAS in need of that bit of information, when he started thinking that Morzan was his father.

He wasn't in need.

I HAVE listed all if the exerpts that point towards Brom being Eragon's father.

Where?

could be. i mean elves naturally know others real/true names so it wouldn't be suprising if she knew eragon's true name since she is a dragon and stuff. she probably knows a lot more though than what she is letting on and i think eragon can tell...i think saphira needs to cough it up...nah perhaps it's good that she only knows and eragon doesn't.

Read the first page, there is tons of info there.

Of this post.

I have noticed that exact same concept reading the books over and over again. It seems as if Saphira holds out information on saphira, but what i dont realize is that cant eragon skin through her consiousness and review past conversations and events.

No, but Saphira would have said something to Eragon about his father now, after he started thinking it was Morzan.

True, she did console him, but not with that fact.

Possibly, maybe she doesn't believe it, or doesn't want his hopes to be raised. Or maybe she forgot about the limitations of the AL, and believes Murtagh

Perhaps, but I think sooner rather than later she is going to have to tell Eragon some of the things that she knows because it might come in handy later. I think perhaps she may have kept it hidden or has not said anything because the time was not right.

Didn't she say that when he said that Garrow was more his father than Morzan could ever be? Why didn't she offer condolensce then? Or maybe she was just proud of his decision and thought he was coping adequately.

ya its probably that

Whats probably not?

If she does admit she knows, which she should have done after the battle, Eragon isn't going to trust her for a while.

Especially THAT important!!!

Yeah I do. He just said it randomly.

Well, obviously I didn't. He could have been agreeing with anyone. tHats one of the problems with spam.

Actually I don't think that would happen. They have known and loved each other for so long now I think Eragon would understand. If she explained everything and why and whatnot I think he would still trust her and stuff. I think their bonds of trust are far from getting torn or broken even if Saphira were to tell Eragon things that she knew only. Like I said maybe she was waiting or was told to wait, who knows, until the right moment. Or maybe she didn't feel she needed to tell him at that point.

Yes, they have a pretty strong bond.This was proved when she stayed with him after the blood-oath celebration.

Saphira didn't back off. She stayed with him to console him.

Wait we might be talking about different things. I'm just saying they have a strong bond.

No, what I meant is we are talking about different situations. I was talking about sfter the blood-oath celebratoin where he tried to talk to Arya, and make her love him.

Yes and that is a major part of their bond but I also think that may be they can and are physically linked as well...in some way. But their mental link is quite strong and whatnot....



To me it didn't seem like he was trying to make her do anything. I just think he was trying to see if really Arya did in fact have feelings for him. I don't think Eragon is the type of person who would force another or try to make them, least of all Arya, love or like him. He told her his feelings and he was just trying to see if she felt the same way, which she did not.