1. Arya llooked just like a human, so if there was a second book, all the elves woul too and when eragon gets transormated he would still look the same
2. Eldest was a great book, but as a movie no, it would make such a boring movie it would be walked out of endlessly
3. the razzac are dead, so that completely gets rid of the roran stuff
4. no jeod, again it takews chunks out of the storyline
5. no orik
6. murtagh looks nothing like eragon so they cant say anything about the resemblence

yeah, they completely screwed up. Thats why if I ever have a book made into a movie i'm gonna make it say "Based on a novel by" instead of "Inspired by a novel by"

well im saying that there wont be a eldest move, and thats not exactly considered an eldest movie.

yeah, wasn't even an "eragon" movie, just a movie that was roughly a similar story. there may be a sequel to that "movie that vaguely reminded me of eragon" though

They screwed up too much. They didnt even put Elva in, and there were no details, it would have been better if they made it as good as Lord of the Rings.

obviously. they also really messed up tronjheim. i bet there will be a second, because they left the story unfinished, and some non-fans liked it.

lol thats never happening, rotk was the best movie ever made.

i hear eldest is coming out 2009, the actress who played ayra was just in a different movie... Queen elizabeth or something... now that the movies finished there gunna start on eldest soon.

wwell yeah they did mess that up but that wouldnt cause a huge dent in the story line.

yea...lol thats prolly the least of their problems
... I think they can work most of these problems out to make a good movie out of it... you guys dont gotta be so negative about it, i mean yea parts in the movie were different from the book but its someones point of view... now they hear a lot of these rants on the movie im sure they will work it around to make the viewers happy

do you know how many millions of eragon fans there are? if they'd made it right, they would have had us all on their side, but now most every fan hates it. seing it once was more than enough for me. well, i'll probably see it again, but it was awful

well the thing is that all of these things that they left out of eragon didnt affect the eragon storyline, take a huge chunk out of the eldest one. not only does that prevent them from making it, it also means that they probably werent even planning to make eldest if they left that much out.

If they make an Eldest move it will be as bad in story as the first. I did like the Eragon movie but it was totaly diffrent from the book. I know what another person said, but they have a good point.
1 Arya is human not elf.
2 they killed the Ra'zac
and hear are some of my points
1 No twins
2 Durza never scared Eragon's back so no transformation in movie 2
3 No Katrina
4 minor point no Isidar Mithrim

1)i believe arya was an elf, but just didn't look like it.
2)durza did scar his back
3)the twins were less important
4)katrina was more important, but not vital

yeah but if theres no twins ajihad cant die and murtagh cant get captured.

also Angela was pretty screwed up, not to mention that there was no solembum, which screws up the rock of kuthian and weapon under menoa tree bit.

The twins and Katrina were introduced in the expanded edition. >.<
They could introduce Solembum next time Angela shows up in the 'correct' garments.
Elva could be introduced during eldest...

So... They could make one, unfortunately...

I gotta see this extended edition, I don't care if its still as crap as the original.

The sequel while come out but, it won't do to well in the box office. Anybody think different?

The only good thing about the movie was that Saphira looked cool
(very pathetic)

I think it well do well in the box office for 1 reason is that even though alot of Eragon fans hated the movie, im sure they will still go see the second to see how bad it messed up this time if there stubborn.... or also in my opinion, i think the movie will acually be pretty good, cuase if everyone is writing horrible rants about eragon, if they even got the guts to make a second, dont you think there gunna improve it to most of the viewers thoughts in order to make more money... I mean come on people.... yes the movie was bad, but its not like it ruined the hole series... your not even giving the people any chance for them to make it better... "Oh Eragon stink so that means Eldest is really gunna stink even worse" ... Think about what your saying, it doesnt even make sense... What do you do bad a first time and do just as bad, if not worse a second time... your deffinatly gunna try to improve...

That is probably true. But I don't think it will make money, becuase of how much money it costs to make the movie

yea but even eragon made money as a movie......

it did, but it still didn't do as good as it would have done if they'd done it right. and both fans of the books (thereby haters of the movies) will go to see it anyways, and fans of the movie will too

exactly... that just proves that there WILL be a second movie...

the only reason it made a lot of money because there are so many inheritancre fans and when it first came out no one knew it would stink so bad so a lot of people saw. but now since everyone knows how bad of a job they did on the first no one will want to see the second

Exactly. Fans made up the majority of the movie-go-ers, and now, after they found out the movie is horrible, they wont see the second one. Only people who didnt read the books and liked the movie will go see it. And, honostly, i think they number much less then us. Alot of fans will go see the movie, just to see it, but the number is going to cut like those japanese cheifs cut sushi.

I agree with rpm12345, there wont be a second movie

i think you got it wrong... if alot of eragon fans thought it stunk, notice i said alot not all i DID like the movie... anyways if fans think it stunk, i think making a second movie would make the fans want to see it again to see how bad the movie messed up this time, only its not going to mess up. Fox has forced the director of eragon to folow as close as possible to the book eldest, and the script must be approved by fox, which what i i have it has been. they are now waiting on book 3 to release to finsh the movie and another problem was that the actor that played ayra was acting in another movie, which is now complete, dont ask me what it is i forget the title. All that i am saying is that there is an eldest the movie....

well, it'll be tough to follow it when there are important characters missing, and other mistakes with the last movie that'll be hard to fix. they screwed it all up

There are ways to fix the missing charactors... they could do it right in the begining of the movie

edit... yea that movie the actress who played ayra is in now is inkheart btw

My guess is that in the second movie (if it was made), Eragon would journey to Ellesmera with Orik and Saphira. Orik, of course, was not included in the movie, but it has been quoted by some of the filmmakers that, if a second movie be made, the character Orik would be quickly introduced. So that would take care of him. Arya would be in Ellesmera when they arrived. As for Elva and the Twins, my guess is that the Twins possibly might once again be excluded from the story, but Elva would be in it. They could, though, take some of the scenes deleted from the first movie, like scenes involving the Twins and Elva, and fit them into this movie, or film them all over again to fit in better with the movie. That would probably be the best answer.

Ajihad would be killed off quickly, and Murtagh would be snatched off too. Nasuada's character would be enhanced to make her more prominent in the story. As for Angela and Solembum, I believe that Angela would somehow meet up with the Varden in Surda while Solembum would be cut. As for the Menoa Tree, Arya could explain it at Ellesmera, like she does in the book. The Vault of Souls would either have to wait, or be mentioned by Angela when Eragon's at the Burning Plains.

Roran and Katrina's characters would be somewhat more difficult. Roran would return to Carvahall to find his father dead and his farm destroyed. Horst would either become a larger character or stay in the shadows like the first movie. Katrina would be introduced in the storyline and be known as Sloan's daughter. The Ra'zac would return from their graves as a plot twist of the movie.

WOW! Suddenly, after figuring all that out, I see where there might be hope for a sequel!

-Paolni won't let another movie be made, not after how they destroyed his artwork. When someone messes up one word of your idea it tears you apart. but let alone a whole movie? I feel sorry for chris for having his ideas portrayed in such a way.

I doubt there'll be a second film just on the basis that the forst one got really bad feedback

Yeah, there's no way there will be another movie, unless they remake Eragon in 20 years and restart the franchise. That's the closest thing we'll see to an Eldest movie.

They're making Eldest. It should come out on Christmas. (12/25/09)
Here's a link:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nuDPwQhA_lk/SCp1dqX3EfI/AAAAAAAAAbw/SKuaDFoFoL4/s400/Eldest.png

I'll try to get another link then. They must have started it right after they finished Eragon.
Here we go, another link:
http://images.wikia.com/inheritance/ima ... Eldest.png

There is another that has the date, but the link wouldn't work. If you want to see it, go to Google Images the type in Eldest Movie. It should be the first one.

Yeah, me too. They have to stick with their mistakes though. It wouldn't seem right if the Ra'zac came back unless their was mora than two in the movie. They didn't even show the Lerthblaka or the Ra'zac's parents! But that's another topic.

Well, whoever made it did a good job. But I don't believe everything Wikipedia says. People who don't know very much, like me, post things on there.

Yeah, no where near the book! The books are waaaaaaaay better!

It actually says that it is rumored to come out 2011. So I highly doubt that this information is accurate. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Eldest made, even if it was to the equivalent of the Eragon movie. They could make it into a very good movie, though, if they used part of the 2nd movie to make up for the loss of the first.

I think the Cycle should conclude B4 the movie comes out.

personally, i feel nothing could make up for that mess.

I agree with u Wil. They can't make up for the Ra'zac dying in movie one when in the really die in book 3, a.k.a. Brisingr.

yeah, and i believe i remember Paolini writing something about an Urgal horn in the book, but the urgals of the movie were muscleheaded bald guys, if i remember right.

yeah, ur remembering right. Sorry, I watch Eragon every night to see how bad they messed up and everytime I do I notice something new. But anyway, Uragls did have horns in books, but they had mohawks in the movie. Yeah. mohawks really make up for the absence of horns.

well, my 'movie memory' is really just the horrid, squirming wretch of a thing that they called the video game. It was interesting for the first ten seconds of gameplay.

but of course, they always manage to screw up the from-movie-to-video game ones, don't they?

I've actually played the game although i don't own it. My half-brother owns it. The game sucks. Durza looks like a human with incomprehensive abilities. THe Urgals are very differnt, and Durza is extrememly hard to defeat that early in the game.

yeah. it's kinda sick how they can manage to screw up such a masterpiece, isn't it?

Yeah... but anyway back on topic, there probably is going to be a second movie no matter how bad the first one was, is.

yeah. i couldn't imagine how they could alter it any more to make it fit.

It would take too long and make the movie worse and bring an even worse impression on the directors. Although they could alter Arya's looks a little without screwing it up even more.

Yeah. doesn't she have blonde hair in the movie? cuz i swore i saw blonde hair. and i do believe Paolini's Arya had black hair, too...if i'm not mistaken.

Nope, again you're not mistaken. Arya had a reddish-blonde hair to be exact though. Nothing against you Wil. And Paolini's Arya has dark "black colored locks of the most beautiful hair".

yeah, i just knew it wasn't right.

lol. I don't see how they'll fix this unless the SF crew unites and does a remake or something.

How exactly would we be able to do that?

nooo idea.

lol.

it would be interesting though, if we could manage to pull it off.

Yes it would. I could be........... an extra 'cause there really isn't a part that would fit me in it. But really I'm not kidding.

i see...i'd probably vote to write the script or something. i'm no good with acting even if there did happen to be a part for me. lol.

I'm a OK actress but I've never been in anything big like a movie. I've only been in school plays. Wait! I could be a dwarf! I'm only 12 but I'm 5 ft something. That might not work.

lol. you could be the TALL one. y'know, like the world's biggest midget is like five-foot seven or something.

because the movie maker went at eragon with a butchers knife and changed every thing that set up the sequel.

Yeah! I could be a 5ft dwarf! lol

lol. this is getting way off topic.
but yeah you could be the tall one that destroys Galbatorix' army.

imagine:: a human with a dwarf's dexterity, strength, and amount of body hair.

Technically we're not off topic. We're still talking about Eldest movie but not why there won't be another movie.

AHHHHHHHHHH! Too much hair, I think. I would rather be an elf.

Good luck coming up with the $100-$150 millions dollars to do it. But, hey, if you did somehow that would be awesome!

You would need a Lot more if u wanted the best special effects out there. Were looking for about $300m-$350m. Thats more than Saving the whales for 1000 years.

True. lol. Very true. I do think that a second movie could be made that would bring the world of Alagaesia to life, but I doubt they will ever want to take the chance.

There might be a second movie however it will bear little relation to the book because:
1. In the movie if a rider dies his/her dragon dies in the books this is not the case. (Brisingr pg 636-637)
2. the love interest with Arya is completely different from the one in the book where Eragon is spurned by Arya.
3. Urgals are part of the empires military forces in the film not controlled by Durzza as in the book
4. Hrothgar the dwarf king dosen't exist neither does Orik
5. Eragon is much stronger than Arya in the film where in the book he is clearly outmatched by her.
6. There don't seem to be any dwarves in the film as all of the people in farthen dur are of the same height.
7. The Twins don't exist
8. Farthen dur is easily accessible to dragons as saphira flies out of the crater in the film where as in the book the hole in the mountainn is too high for even dragons to reach.
9. Sloan seems to like eragon in the film he knows the egg is the king's propetry and tells him to hide it.
10. Sloan is tortured and killed in the movie
11. The Ra'zac die
12. Katrina dosen't exist
13. Brom believes he is responsible for there being only one dragon in Alagaesia
14. The foresworn don't exist
15. The geography is wrong in the film daret is near foothills of the Beor mountains instead of being in the northen reaches of the empire .
16. Surda dosen't seem to exist.
17. Saphira has to obey eragon in the film where as in the book she dosen't and stays by him because of their bond. (eragon pg 157)
18. Saphira has a different personality
19. No evidence of elves existing
20. Jeod dosen't exist
21. Horst role is cut to the mention of his name only once in the film.
22. No werecat or werecat prophecy and angela is met in daret which isn't on a plain as in the book but in a marsh.
23. No star rose
24. We don't know where Roran has gone so it is likely that if there is a second film roran's plot will be dropped and he will just show up at the varden.
25. In the film the varden are not aware of Brom or that he never played an important part in their councils.
26. Arya refers to Eragon as the leader of the resistance in the film where as in the book he swears fealty to the Vardens new leader Nasuada.
27. In the film it seems that there are only two dragons left saphira and shruikan no other eggs so no thorn.
28. Magic seems completely different from the book
29. In the film it says dragons are the source of magic in the books oromis says that magic exists in nature without riders or dragons.
30. In the film galbatorix wants to kill eragon where as in the books he wants to capture saphira.
31.Eragon already knows the Arya is a princess (very minor)
32. Film misses training of Eragon by Brom to be a rider could have been done in a two or three minute scene.
33. In film brom is killed by durzza not the Ra'zac
34. Murtagh dosen't shoot the shade or save eragon from the Ra'zac
35. In the film saphira instantly grows where in the book she gradually grows.
36. Saphira can't breath fire until after she breaks the star rose in the book but in the films she can breath fire from the beginning.
37. Eragon's power when he first uses magic is vastly incrased from when he used magic in the books.
38. Arya has the wrong hair color and isn't an elf (as these don't seem to exist also she dosen't have pointy ears.
39. Eragon dosen't injure his legs or rely of Saphira for warmth after their first flight.
40. Hadarac desert isn't mentioned and probably dosen't exist in the film world because of the other geographical mishaps.
41. Eragon isn't going to Ellesmera at the end of the film with Arya so will he get any additional training and do Oromis and Glaedr exist it.
42. Elva dosen't exist
43. Doesn't seem that Arya can use magic
Thats over forty problems and I could easily come up with more. Its really a shame fox didn't put more effort into this film as it had great potential however the finished product didn't look like Eragon at all. Several things that were missed were inexcusable such as the lack of the training from Brom to Eragon as this could have easily been fixed by a few simple scenes such as eragon progressing the stick fighting with brom and lifting of the stone in the first book for discipline. I was very disappointed by the movie.

Well... that wraps up this topic! LOL. JK. That was a lot of details, though I believe that some of the things you put were just opinions and wouldn't matter in the making of a second movie.

can you point out which and I will attempt to explain how I believe they will affect the movie.

Well, some of these aren't really wrong. They would have an affect on the story, but it would very, very minor.

2. Eragon's love interest with Arya (It is true that she seems to like him right off the bat, which is different than the book, but I don't think it would hinder a second movie from being made.)

3. Urgals are part of Empire, rather than Durza's servants (In the book, they are a part of the Empire's forces, and could easily have the part of breaking free from the Empire to join the Varden, which is what occurs in the Eldest.)

5. Eragon's strength over Arya (I really don't think they meant for him to be stronger than Arya, though he did seem like it. The movie, if made, would be hardpressed to bring out Eragon's building of strenght, since he already has much of it in the first movie, but I do not think that it would prevent a second movie from being made.)

9. Sloan likes Eragon (I did not get this impression from watching the movie, so I doubt this would have an effect.)

10. Sloan is killed (The audience really does not know if he is killed or not. In fact, if you are to watch the commentarywith the director, he says that he left that open, in case there was to be a second movie.)

13. Brom believes he is responsible (I really don't know where you got that one. He is overcome with much grief that the dynasty of the Riders has ended, but I don't believe he thinks it was his fault as much as it was just poor timing and the corruption of the other Riders. Also, this doesn't have much of an effect on a second movie being made.)

17. Saphira must obey Eragon (I don't really think it is her obeying him as much as it is Eragon is suggesting a good move, and Saphira agrees with this good move, and does it. And it wouldn't hinder the movie at all.)

18. Saphira has a different personality (I think she has the same, humerous, fiery spark of an attitude that she does in the books. This is just an opinion.)

25. The Varden are not aware of Brom (This is one of these things that while the audience does not know, the characters do. It is just as possible to say that they knew all about Brom as to say they didn't. It just was not mentioned to the audience.)

26. Eragon is the leader of the resistance (In the book, he is a leader of the resistance, though not the main one. Even in the movie, he was not the leader of the Varden; Ajihad still held that title.)

28. Magic is completely different (Once again, this is just an opinion, for I found that the magic was one of the soul things in the movie they got right.)

32. No training between Eragon and Brom (There is the stick fight and he does explain to Eragon what magic is. These are the two main training sessions that will be used later in Eragon's legend.)

34. Murtagh does not shoot Durza or save Eragon from the Ra'zac (Very, very minor detail, and it would not hinder the second story in any way.)

35. Saphira grows rapidly (Explain to me how this would hurt the next movie.)

36. Saphira breathes fire (Explain to me how this would hurt the next movie.)

39. Eragon's injured leg (Explain to me how this would hurt the next movie.)

Sorry it took me so long to post back to this I will try to respond to each comment either agreeing or disagreeing. Individual most of these won't stop the movie but will cause problems and together they would make it almost impossible for the second movie to be made.

2. This will make cause some chapters involving Arya running away from Eragon and the fairth scene impossible for the movie considering Arya already knows that eragon loves her and dosen't rebuke him.

3. This does affect the film because the Urgals have now lost the motive for joining the varden also means we have asks how the varden and dwarves defeated the empire and Urgals in the battle considering the Urgals wouldn't turn and fight each other with Durzza's death because they aren't his servants in the film.

5. Eragon is easily much stronger than Arya especially considering the elves don't seem to be faster or stronger in the film these would also make it difficult for the film to give a reason for Eragon to be transformed into an elf.

9. I agree, it won't have an effect on the second movie.

10. I agree, If the director said he left it open then obviously sloan lives so it won't be an issue in the second movie.

13. Brom says as much in the film he says he had to get revenge and that is why there are so few Dragons left.

17. An example of Saphira having to obey Eragon is in the film when eragon says to Saphira that they should go to gil'ead to rescue the elf and Saphira says no then Eragon says "I am the rider and I say we go" and Saphira leaves immediately taking Eragon to gil'ead.

18. Can't be proved either way however she never gets angry at Eragon or loses her temper like in the books.

25. Can't be proved

26. Arya actually gives him this title while dressing him for battle in the film. In the book he is not a leader considering he has no followers or subjects he is just extremely powerful.

28. Durzza being able to fly by summoning a beast. Mind breaking dosen't exist. Eragon can do lots with just a word and that usually takes years to master.

32. Telling Eragon about magic dosen't really count as training. Especially considering immediately afterwards that Eragon is almost a master spell caster.

34. I agree, won't impact the next film.

35. Saphira grows rapidly so will thorn so he will be the same size or close to the size of Saphira when they first fight also means that Glaedr will have to have gone through several of these stages to reach his size or he is the same size as Saphira which would introduce other problems.

36. Again in the Thorn vs Saphira fight Thorn would not be stronger because of Galby's meddling magic so he would be used to his body and not at a disadvantage. Also meant that Saphira could kill large numbers of the Urgals with flame which she couldn't do in the book.

39. Missing character development between Eragon and Saphira but I agree it won't affect the second film too much.

This is an added reason.

44. The film makers will have to deal with the additional problem of there being mistakes some of which are quite large.

I see what you mean now on some of these. And while they wouldn't just completely hinder a second movie from being made, it would certainly make it difficult for the film makers to repair those mistakes in order to get the series "up to snuff" with the book series.

The Ra'zac in the film where pushovers Brom defeated one of them by himself with a sword and no magic at all. There were strong or fast or even that agile + even at a distance you wouldn't mistake them for humans.

Did you just diagree with yourself by agreeing with me despite the fact that I disagreed with your last post? Make up your mind!!!

I don't think that the Ra'zac where that fst or strong considering Brom won a sword fight with one of them by himself.

i reallt wish they were going to continue the movies the 3rd 1 would make an extermly good movie if they did it well but they stuffed up eragon way too much 2 continue i guess they could skip all the razac parts