what if selena is arya? so arya went to spy on galby, so she changed herself to look like a human, got with morzan, got some juicy info, had some babies with brom, faked her own death, went back to the elf place (sry i cant remember the name) changed back into an elf...and then u know the rest

i dunno why i thought of this, but hey, it would be pretty cool if it was true

your thoughts?

i dunno.. i don't think so

then Galby would have extracted the location of Ellesmera from her.

uhuh, that's true, i don't think that true

Your right about one thing, this idea is FAR out there. But it raised my brow. I shall need you to submit evidence. I like this idea. I just don't think it could happen.

lol. you like the idea cuz you hate Arya.

You darn right I do. It makes a lot of pro Arya theorys go down the toilet. Mainly, it disproves Arya\Eragon compleatley.

it can't disprove ANYTHING cuz it has no basis AT ALL! and so that's the reason you "think" Arya will die: you just hate her and WANT her to die.

Again...true. Stupid Mary-Sue should drop

And if it turns out to be true, it would disprove all y'all Arya\Eragon theorys.

you are agreeing with Anti-Shurtugal.com!!!! BLASPHEMER!!! BLASPHEMER!!! BLASPHEMER!!!

Okay, I'm gonna pretend to know what you're talking about.

Guys, back on topic please

i don't think the idea makes sense...

Why? She's more than old enough. And she and Brom never really met in Eragon so we have no clue what their reactions would have been.

Brom is 10-20 years older than her. but it was ISLANZADI who thought so highly of him. And it seems like Faolin was her mate.

Oh yeah. I forgot about all that. (How'd I forget Brom was a rider?)

DUDE, that means Arya was alive when the Forzworn took over.

she was born the year of the fall.

wait i like this idea but it cant be true:/

that means arya birthed eragon./..and hes human...(well he was when he was born)

but that's SOOOOO NASTY!!! Don't you think she would have told him by now?! Having your son try to woe you is pretty freaky. Ur right that it can't be true. It doesn't fit ANYTHING.

But he WAS the first human to be turned into an elf by that dragon thing. Maybe he had elven geanes floating around in him but they never had a chance to come out. Brom's geanes could have tooken over. (AND, why didn't Brom have elf ears. I just have to know that)

no. it was all the dragons who transformed him. He didn't have latent elf genes.

i guess he used magic to alter his appearence so that he wouldn't stand out.

i cant agree with anybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im sorry guys, but i have no evidence or proof. it was just something that poped into my head, and i thought it sounded pretty cool.

ok. y not say Eragon is evil, Saphira is evil, the Dwarves are evil, the Elves are evil, the Varden is evil, Nasuada is Evil, Orik is evil, Oromis is evil, and Glaedr is evil??? it just stirs up trouble. if we didn't know more about Arya, it would be fine. but because we know her enough to tell her alignment, it's provoking to some people.

you kinda lost me there

that would mean eragon was romantically interested in his mother
and is half elf
you can't change your species even if you can disguise it

you have point that is nasty!!!!!!!!!!!arya and brom

hey, i never said it would be morally right! in love with your own mom...hahahaha!

i totally agree!!! yuck!!! but kinda funny ! lol

ofcourse we can....moving on>>>

does anyone think its the least bit probable? i kinda do....a tiny bit, but then it brings up so many other questions

She DIDNT HAVE KIDS WITH BROM JUST WITH MORZAN

SELENA WAS A SLUT!!! lol. SHE HAD KIDS WITH MORZAN AND BROM!!! GOSH!!!

*sigh* i have said this forever... here is my boatload of evidence:

Brom said, “She was full of dignity and pride, like Garrow. Ultimately it was her downfall, but it was one of her greatest gifts nevertheless. . . . She always helped the poor and the less fortunate, no matter what her situation.” He answered to Eragon’s question, “You knew her well?”, “Well enough to miss her when she was gone.” Also, Blagden said “Son and father alike, both as blind as bats” after being asked what his first prophesy ment. This denotes that Blagden had met Eragon's father. Morzan had never gone to Ellesmera, though Brom had. On pg. 435 of Eragon, Angela saya, "He (Brom) loved a woman, but it was his affection which was her undoing."

So what happened was she was carrying Brom's child and Morzan found out. She went to Carvahall and had Eragon. She then ran off, running from Morzan, was caught, and then killed. This enraged Brom and Brom went and killed Morzan. Later, he went to Carvahall to keep an eye on his son, Eragon.

i really don't think thats possible, notice she's an elf and the elfs all despises galby, morzan.... etc

HOW IS SELENA AN ELF???!!!

i'm talkigna bout arya

SHE IS NOT ERAGON'S MOTHER!!!! SHE ONLY HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH FAOLIN!!! I CAN't BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE WOULD THINK THAT SHE WAS EVER IN LOVE WITH BROM!!!!! lol. i had to get that out of my system.

i'm to lazy to explian my self....... ffs i guess i composed the sentence badly..

yeah

hey, IMNC, i dont actually believe it myself ( seeing as im the topic starter) i just thought it wouyld be cool, kinda gross, but cool! i dont believe it at all!

I don't think so, the time diffrence and everything would just be too complicated I think.

Maybe CP will give us a little back in the past sorta thing if Eragon figures out Brom is his father or something and then someone tells him how it happens and everything, just guessing here.

Yeah I guess. It'd just be cool if that happened for eragon I guess.

Yeah that'd be interesting to read. Like what he did for the Varden and what and how he got his dragon. That'd be something to read about.

Yeah, CP needs to add another book/story to the series, kinda like a beginning story on how Eragon came to be and how Brom got his dragon and his sword and where he put it. Kinda like they did with the LOTR movie I guess the third one where they showed how Gollum got the ring, it'll show how Brom became the father and how he became a dragon rider and hopefully alot of other stuff.

What about Garrow being her brother? I dont think he was an elf. And didn't Islanzadi say that Arya was her only heir? How could that be if Garrow was her brother

no, galby wouldn't have known she was an elf. but i don't think it's possible that she's selena, murtagh would have rechognised her.

and selena didn't marry galby, she married morzan

We have no indications whatsoever that Selena and Morzan got married. "She accompanied him..."
as it is stated in Eragon, P 387-388

that's what i meant.

I don't know, maybe. I'm not sure if CP is willing to do that though. After all the trouble of making the series and all.

my thoughts that this is VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY weird. and i dont think that it happened. also eragon would have elflike features before his transformation and his crush on arya would be.. BLEH!!!

if this is true then arya's a perv

FINALLY!!! i read the first four pages of this post thinking the exact same thing and finnally some one said it!! Garrow was Selena's sister. So it couldnt be Arya. also whoever said that Eragon would have elfish features is probbablly right.
And i like the Brom being Eragon's father theory too, but i can prove that wrong. Murtag told Eragon in the ancient language that they were BOTH the sons of Morzan. He couldnt have lied about it.

But what if thats just as far as Murtag knew. Will the language prevent you from saying something false that you heard in a diffrent language, and are convinced of????

oh and its not like Eragon knows that Arya is his mother, SHE ISNT but if she was it ouldnt be his or her fault if he did like her. They arent perverts untill they find out, THEN Eragon still likes her. But the idea is really disgusting.

I dont think whoever started this was thinking along those likes. i know it had to come to their minds, but lets give them the bennifit of the doubt and say that they thought of it after they started the threads.

yeah that would be some good advice. but it was a good theory, and a good debate.

among other things...

sorry. now im just gonna type some more so you wont tell me not to spam...

no but seriouslly, is there anyway that that could be possible, with the fact that garrow and selena were sisters

yeah but come on, how likelly is that. i think we pretty much killed this theory. sorry dude who started this... but your theory is dead.

garrow is a man

sorry.

EDIT- .. that Selena was Garrows sister.

does that make more sense?

That idea is unprobable, but that would explain why Arya will not let Eragon throw the moves on her. Who would want to date their son? And who would want to date their mom?

I guess Selena dating Eragon?

Yeah, it just does not work out.

There's no way that could be true... Eragon would've been half-elf before the elf festival if she was.