Uh...... That just came to me and then I just posted it so that's all I got on it right now.

It sounds awesome or maybe Vreal or the Original Eragon will train them more.

Yeah that's what I think as well.

Your idea is good, but maybe theyn will come back in spirit form. that would be cool lol.

But what could they do in spirit form.

I like this idea a lot. I also like the idea of Eragon haveing the soul of the first Eragon enter him.

But every on is leaving Saphira out what about her.

I don't know if anything will happen to saphira i just thought something should if Eragon will have something happen.

ITS A METEPHOR I SAY METAPHOR!!!!!!! but i like the idea of oromis dieing then teaching eragon th rest...

I think saphira should find some crazy power... even if it had nothing to do with the VOS... just like see had excellent flying ability, maybe some power that a dragon has never been seen to do before... but i have no idea what. Just the idea of it sounds cool

It does but if you want to do something that no one has ever done befor why not bring someone back to life?

but havent we said before bringing someone back to life can kill you... there would have to be some major plot behind this idea....

It does, that's why I don't think it will happen.

But it would be unexpected if Eragon brought someone back to life and prove he is ready to face Galby or he already did it.

cool!

Saphira should have more power b/c Thorn had beaten her in battle that time(i know it was unfair) so she needs more power 2 beat thorn.

I think the only reson that Thorn and Murtagh won was because Eragon and Saphira were tired from the battle otherwise They would have won.

Plus I think Murtagh has been getting a power boost.

certainly! Murtagh and Thorn having that much power is a prob. So thats y Saph mush gain more power

lol......reali good ideas, i avnt been on here in a while however i think u lot have done all the talking 4 me.....ur ideas r gr8...keep it goin

thanks saphirabrightscale!

Ok, so Murtagh has been getting a power boost from what though?

probably from something evil or not good, he learnt dark magic off of Galby so it has to have somethin to do wiv that.......he n Thorn cant b physically stronger than Eragon n Saphira....they r possibly mentally stronger tho....as neither Saphira or Eragon could break into Murtagh's mind..... i agree wiv anouther theory on how he gets his power that is in a different topic, but basically he gets his power from the souls of the dead riders that Galby killed n enslaved sort of thing...... i dno which topic it is on tho....but is a gd threory

Yea, plus Galby might train Murtagh to obtain more energy more quickly in ways that Eragon, the elves and the Varden don't know. Everything is a posibilty in the world of mysteries.

well... tht is kinda obvious, if Eragon n the Elves did kno about it or how to use it dnt u think they would.....

Yes. And if they know it Galby must surely know it b/c he is stronger than them. So that is why it must be hiden outside Du' Weldenvarden, Farthen Dur and Uru'baen which leaves a lot of choices.

But Oromis said he knew how Galby was getting his power so maybe it is a way that the Elves do not shanction or something like that.

good point, i think Oromis will tell Eragon where the VOS is and how Galby gets his power when he is on his death-bed...... he doesnt think Eragon is strong enough to take the truth, plus it mite have something to do wiv the 7 words Brom told Eragon..... i dno could b alot of things...... but Eragon will find out and use thepower to destroy Galby hopefully, and the VOS will help, thats what i think....

Wait, I don't remember Brom telling Eragon 7 words, but I'm not very good at remembering. Could you tell me what the words sere plz?

it's pretty obvious eragon dies, he dies so does saphira any way this is a trilogy so CP will, sadly, but have to, kill the main caharacter, or other characters ie murtgh, and it's obvious galby die as well, b/c the villains always die.

im that doesn't make sense... who says the main charactor has to die in a trilogy? did't happen in the lotr trilogy... Froto was still alive...

Eragon wont die. Why should he?

He can't not here anyway.

If he dies, all the fans will probably complain 2 cp.(at least i will) and if the other characters die too, who will kill eragon and saph? nobody.

Well they're not going to die in the first place so....

Long Live Saphira!!!!!!!!!!! She is immortal

Let's try to stay on topic.

But I agree, Saphira more than likely won't die.

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK SAPHIRA IS GONNA DIE IN THE NEXT BOOK?! SAPHIRA CAN'T DIE! SHE'S TOO IMPORTANT, TO ERAGON, INHERITANCE, AND ME!

Well, she is pretty important and I agree that she probably wont die, but there is still a very slight chance that she might. Plus, is CP put that in, it will be an unexpected, but sad, twist to the story.

Saphira won't die!!!!! CP wouldn't do that to us. That would mess up the whole book. Why would she die? She's the 2nd main character!!!

I guess, but lets get back on topic.

idk if i posted this in here or not...if i did srry and disregard this but my friend saphire soul had asked cp what he meant because,as gleadr said when the body dies,so does the soul....cp answered with something almost exactly to:you over analyze my books too much.the souls youre thinking about may not be the souls youre looking for.*NOT a direct quote but its very close*


so if u ask me...nothing...cuz there is no vault of souls....because there are no souls after u die....WAIT!

maybe the souls are from ppl who are still alive....but then wouldnt eragon be killing billions of ppl? maybe ppl dont need their souls to live?

oh yeah, i 4got about that part. So....i think people do need they're souls to live. Do u think its maybe just a metaphor, like meaning go to the Vault of very rare things. Or the vault of souls might mean a human body with more than 1 soul or something.

no a body cant have 2 souls in it cuz ittll like go insane and die,glaedr mentioned that too....i think he just uses alive ppls souls...idt he takes them tho

I just got a weird thought. I know some people might think the grey folk are dead, but i think they are in spirit form. I no this may sound stupid, but wat if eragon got energy and power from the grey folk who dwell inside the VOS? just a thought.

Somebody please tell me that I'm nuts when I get the suspicion that Eragon is going to develop a split personality.

you're nuts

whats a split personality anyway?

Hmm.... but if that happens there wont be a big battle and i like big battles hehe

Dragon fan, a split personality is also known as an alternate-personality. It's caused by some sort of mental problem (obviously, lol.). Do you watch that show Heroes? You know the mom of the kid that can mess with computers? Remember how she changes when she looks in a mirror? That's an alternate personality, except I don't think the switches are caused by looking in a mirror. They are really common in people who were kidnapped or abused as children. I think it's because they tune it out and try and pretend like it's happening to a different person. And sometimes, the imaginary person becomes a different aspect of the real person's mind. Like I said, I'm not sure what causes the switches, but I think they alternates come out most of the time when the real person is in danger or somthing like that.

Uh... thanx, but I dont think Eragon will have a split personality. He's already changed a lot from a guy finding a blue stone.

I can't wait to read some good ol' fashion Galbatorix butt-kickin'!!!

Oh, yiss. Very much so. So much that I'm going to run around the house screaming like the mad lunatic I really am!!! lol, jk. *menacing voice* Or was it?

hey, everything i ve jus read is amazing, i never knew my topic was so good anyway.... i avnt been on in a while as i ve been in hospital but i ve had some new ideas that i would like to add.... It will b awesome when we finally get to read Galby gettin his butt kicked, i think Eragon will remember what Solumnbum told him at the last minute and even then i think Saphira will remind him about it.... or Solumnbum could die n his last words could be something like 'Remember what i told you..... its the only way to save the Varden now' or something like that, kinda sad but i m ill n babbling. Eragon will remember though and when he does he will kick some Galby Butt!!!!

1. Why were you in the hospital? *concerned*

2. SOLEMBUM WON'T DIE!!! How could you suggest something as horrible as that?

3. I think Eragon won't be forgetting and remembering at the last minute, because he was thinking about all through Eldest, so he's not likely to forget know. That would be a very big "D'oh" on his part.

Yeah, he isnt the type to forget something so important. Anyway, even if he did forget, Saphira will remind him. There's no way she will forget!

Yeah, he was thinking about what Solembum told him all through the second book.

I dunno, it seems to me like he talked to Saphira about it a couple of times through out the book. I guess we both need to reread it, lol.

I will too. But I do remember Eragon talking about it to Saphira or something. I'm about 70% certain so dont blame me if im wrong.

You are hereby pardoned because you are correct. He did talk to Saphira about it.

that ending sounds pretty exciting! *groan* if only empire could come out today!

Well, I really wouldnt like it if Empire/ Book 3 came out today b/c I'm rereading the whole of Harry Potter and I wouldnt want to decide which 1's betta.

I have a funny feeling that something LOtR will happen. Is it not possible that when Eragon opens the VOS, like in The Return of the King(i believe... may have been the end of The Two Towers) he raises a "spirit army"?

No No! That should never happen. It will make me tear my hair in anger and dissapointment.>.< I think, he gets some of the soul's power? .

the new rider is going to be roran i know it [ok i don't but that will mean 4 riders in one family]

Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7

4 riders? don't you mean 3?

it's not likely that Roran will be the rider, but this isn't the topic to be talking about it.

something THAT LOTR would be plagiarism, and I'd have to mob CP's house afterwards.

hello again! all ur ideas are fantastic... i av about 5 mins on here as im on a laptop in hospital.... i have lots of ideas but i cant say them all, carry on discussing this topic tho please its keeeping me thinkin, wish i had time to right them all down... o n saphirarox i am very ill i will say no more tho xxx good bye xxx

Very ill??? *Gaspgaspgaspgaspgaspgaspgasp*

Is there such thing as a good shade? If there is, (although its vryvryvryvryvryvryvryvryvryvryvryvry unlikely) Eragon might become the first Dragon Rider Shade. I mean, the Elf Eragon was the first dragon rider, y couldnt Eragon the 2nd be the first dragon rider shade?

Stupid idea, I no, but today lots of stupid ideas are popping into my head lol.

i dont think u can get a good shade as a shade is created wen a sorcerer tries to use a spirit that is more powerful then itself, if this happens the spirit can claim the body and destroy the sorcerer but only the most eveil spirits will do this, so u see only bad shades r created no good 1s. if that makes sense.....

Yep it does. Sry, I just didn't know how a Shade was created. (I'm so dumb).

no ur not dumb. no 1 is truely dumb jus some people dont think about thinks as well as others. i ve had a new idea i kno that they VOS has to be found by Eragon, he enters n shouts his name (which doesnt work) then he shouts his real name and a spirit appears and asks him questions.... add to this cos thats about as far as my ideas go x x