Hi i'm new hear and listening to my brother listen to that movie Eragon. Truly i though it was junk, so i wanted to ask if you thought the movie screwd up for making sequel. I mean it didn't even follow th book. So what do you think Sequel or no sequel ?

I do believe the movie was twisted. It's pathetic when compared to the book. It does narrowly follow the plot of the book. If they can twist Eragon, I'm sure they can do the same for Eldest. If they do make a sequel, I hope they are able to work on a bigger budget, and follow more of the book.

Could someone possibly turn this into a poll?

Welcome to the forums btw

I would like to turn into a poll but don't know how ?

Though yay the movie left me hanging but i have high doubts on a sequel. I mean they would proablly start making the sequel right know but if they did there movie will need to follow the book more. I think for a movie to be good it has to follow the book more. Of course your going to have the Excutive producers cutting out secenes but still try to stick it to the book. Your movie depends on it.

They screwed up the Movie so bad. They would have to remake it to fix thier mistake. Also a new Director.

What the last dude said was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo true. Hollywood screws everything up all they care is makin an extra buck. I prefer to watch old war movies like Patten then the new unaccurate hollywood peices of crap.

yea there is going to be a sequal, but usually even though that is true that its all about money, if they know the movie can have potential, they will make it good so they get more viewers... Thats why i think eldest will be a way better movie. They know it can be improve upon so they will... One small example of this is the fantasic four movie. i thought one was ok, but it could be alot better. Now look at 2, It looks insane, even though i still have to wait for the 15th. But its gunna be way better than the 1st movie.

Yeah it screwed up everything for the sequel I don't see how they are going to get around it.

theres only one way: not make it

They probably won't becasue it sucked so bad.

I'm sure they'll make a 2nd movie, it's even stated on the review of the first on ign.com.. but still yea, there was so much cut out, and then the part put onto the end.. my best guess for correcting all of this would consist of maybe ormis still talking to eragon, but not to help him get rid of the things he saw in durza's head, but to tell him he needs to go to elesmera.. though idk how that'll all pan out. Then they'll have to fit katrina in there somewhere with roran when he returns after finding out about his fathers death, which he'd better, or it'll really mess up the movie. Also maybe something about angela meeting him in Farthen Dur, like she does, but only this time he meets solembum who then gives him that part of the profecy...

Well it's a start, i'm no movie maker, but these are some of the basic things i could come up with that would be absolutely crutial if they plan to make the 2nd and 3rd movies even begin to follow the story line 1/2 as much as they did in the first move, because there was so much cut out of there that makes the 2nd and 3rd books even possible. All i gotta say is good luck fox, u really have done yourselfs in this time.

You all make good points but woulnd't they at least finish the sequel by now

nah.. there syaing the sequal wont come out till about winter 08. there waiting for book 3 to come out i think...

Why so they won't screw it up with the second?

I won't be good to screw name of Eragon with another bad movie just before 3rd book comes out And about Hollywood + making money from bad movies->guys this just can't work, bad movie won't made big money instead good movie erns damn lot of (just remember great LotR)

there waiting for the third book so they can maybe start working on the third movie faster idk....

i still think the eragon movie was pretty good and i deffinatly plan on going to see the second... im almost 100% positive that it will be better than the first movie on folowing he book more, but i can't tell anymore by all the stuff ive been hearing like they are gettig a new director or not and so on... all im really positive on is that they are making a second movie...

why r they waiting for the 3rd book to come out i mean isn't the 2 movie going to be based of the 2nd book. makes no sense. Plus books take longer to write

Uhm nope it doesn't work that way. Longer time nothing happening->fans are leaving you. It's same as it was with me and Harry Potter, I finished reading 4 books in 5 months but next book hadn't been published yet so i was waiting for about 3 months and that first doubts about HP series comes, I was thinking if it is worth my time and later i decided that it is not so HP has one less fan now

Yeah, like, if there's going 2 b an Eldest movie, WHAT THE HECK WILL IT B LIKE?????????!!!!!!

nothing like the book unless the Director reads the book and think " oh i was way off" While countin his money from alll the suckers who say it in theaters. Lukly I rented and toook the advice from fellow friends.

i heard theres a new director...

MAybe then he will be better, did the new director read the book at all

You know i just hated that movie that my sum of everything about that movie

THEY TOTALLY SCREWED THE MOVIE UP!! there can never be a sequel unless nobody read the book i could name about 26 people who did. so yes they did

theres gunna be a sequal and i will say im def. going to see it... i mean sure its not from the book, but a good movie in itself..., but that is just me i enjoy watching movies and any type of animated movie put into real life like eragon and expecially like Transformers, which i must say was Amazing!!, well these types of movies always facinated me and im acually planing on studting into it and pursuing it as my career. Anyways, i still thought the movie was good and ill agree with you that the books were better, but there is definately going to be a sequal... ive heard in around 2008 but its not official...

They COULD have a sequel... They just need to think of ways to fix in all the missing characters and make the drawves short, put the pointy ears in and stuff. I already have some ideas but im not sharing them.

I think they did screw it up so much!!!!!
but it could be changed lol I mean they did a good job on designing Saphira
not all characters were bad they definatly shouldn't have introduced Galbatorix even though i like the actors acting he made him interesting...........
But they could make Eldest good, the ending was bad in Eragon but they could change the begining a little then carry on true to the book I agree with a change in Director

they not only messed it up for a sequel, they just messed it up period, they would have made more money by following it completley than how they decided to do it. its just bad

They messed it up period, but they did not screw it up so bad that they can't make Eldest. They just have to come up with ways of introducing those pivotal characters like Elva and Nasuada and Orik and Oromis at the beginning. Then they can make the rest of the movie closer to the actual book.

THANK YOU SAPHIRA!!! I have been saying this forever.... there are was where missing information can be introduced in eldest. That is why i am saying th movie didn't screw up for the sequal.

I aggree I think they messed up bad it wasn't good but they might be able to make another. I didn't like the moive.

The first one was messed up so...
they can just make a second one thats messed up!

they left out one of the most important parts in the book, the part where eragon gets that scar across his back which pretty much makes up a huge chunk of eldest so i doubt they can make it into a movie unless they just make up there own script and dnt go by the book

What about... giving him the scar while he spars with Arya or something >.> The twins are in LE of the movie... And so is Elva so... Its highly possible that they could make the movie ... and make it a satisfying (Not good) one too.

I think that the Eragon movie that they made has messed up any chances of becoming a franchise like they were hoping. You'd think that they'd have known better! Anyways, after seeing the moive, I thought that they did absolutely horrible when they made the script. So, I decided to make my own script of the movie using the book and a few scenes from the movie that I thought that they did good on. I posted it in FanFiction if any of you want to go see it. I timed it and it's about 2 hours and 34 minutes long. Hope you all like it!

That's cool Icebear! I think that they should make another Eragon and make it good so they can make an Eldest movie.

Thanks! I know that my script is long, but I wish that you all would read it! I worked a long time on it. I have started a script for an Eldest movie too! So far, I'm about a fourth of the way done with it. Please read my script! Of course, I'm not going to just force you to read it! But I think you all will like it! Even if you just read two or three scenes a day and finish it like that. Please leave comments on it too! It's in FanFiction!

Just having some of the second of the book in the first moive screwed it up. Also they didn`t have half the things in the mivie. They should have added Oromis to it. Also Solumbrum because he plays a key role the the latter books.

well hopefully this did not post before i did not see it but here it goes again (my computer messed up) i think that they did mess up the first movie because they followed their own storyline but you never know they might beable to make the second movie even better i thought saphira looked pretty good myself! i guess we will just have to wait and see

She had feathers

the whole thing is, they made money off the movie, meaning they will make a second movie... no matter how they put it together....

That's how it works all right.
Commercialism at its best.

that is a good point!

... yup, we can all just hop it will be better, but belive it or not, either way im looking foward to seeing the second movie..., the way i look at it, there has been some pretty bad movies out there that make eragon look like a decient put together movie,... some of the most reacent examples such as scary movie 4, epic movie, date movie, balls of fury,... and belive me... plenty of others...

i dont think they will be able to make a sequel, it ended with Eragon as the leader of the Varden that doesnt happen, how can he go to Ellesmere and complete his training. The film cut out to much and concentrated on all the major events in the book, however without some of the little or less important parts which were missed out i feel that the film was ruined

first of all, eragon wasn't left the leader of the varden in the movie... but details left out you, they should have put them in, but if anything in the movie was not there that is needed, they will probably add it into eldest in the very beginning, one good thing if they do this, we will have a nice beefed up beginning to look froward to.

If you'll all hate the movie so bad, don't forget about my script in FanFiction! I put in everything from the book that would be needed to make a sequel (which, by the way, I'm making a movie script for Eldest. When I finish it, I'll post it here as well!) Please read my script and leave a reply, even if you won't to critize it! A few other people read it and apparently liked it! Please read it!

Sorry for interrupting the topic!

yea Arya leaves to go the Ellesmere n Eragon should go to n Arya talks about his leadership of the Varden at the end, i really think that messed it up n they didnt put everything that needed to be in there they put major events they didnt explain anything about the AL or anything else

i think ayra only ment that he was high in rank in the varden/ important to them, not that he was the leader.... anyways... is it not possible to make ayra come back in the beggining of the next movie? some of the things you are mentioning are only minor mistakes... i would be more worried about the twins and elva and stuff like that, but now that they have put the twins and elva in the special edition... well....

My guess is that in the second movie (if it was made), Eragon would journey to Ellesmera with Orik and Saphira. Orik, of course, was not included in the movie, but it has been quoted by some of the filmmakers that, if a second movie be made, the character Orik would be quickly introduced. So that would take care of him. Arya would be in Ellesmera when they arrived. As for Elva and the Twins, my guess is that the Twins possibly might once again be excluded from the story, but Elva would be in it. They could, though, take some of the scenes deleted from the first movie, like scenes involving the Twins and Elva, and fit them into this movie, or film them all over again to fit in better with the movie. That would probably be the best answer.

Ajihad would be killed off quickly, and Murtagh would be snatched off too. Nasuada's character would be enhanced to make her more prominent in the story. As for Angela and Solembum, I believe that Angela would somehow meet up with the Varden in Surda while Solembum would be cut. As for the Menoa Tree, Arya could explain it at Ellesmera, like she does in the book. The Vault of Souls would either have to wait, or be mentioned by Angela when Eragon's at the Burning Plains.

Roran and Katrina's characters would be somewhat more difficult. Roran would return to Carvahall to find his father dead and his farm destroyed. Horst would either become a larger character or stay in the shadows like the first movie. Katrina would be introduced in the storyline and be known as Sloan's daughter. The Ra'zac would return from their graves as a plot twist of the movie.

WOW! Suddenly, after figuring all that out, I see where there might be hope for a sequel!

i still think that they have screwed it up, if they do make Eldest into a film then i hope its betta then Eragon cos it was such a let down when i finally saw it

No way are they gonna make a sequel after that! It just sucked

the first movie was utter garbage. it didn't follow the book at all. if they were to make a sequal they would probably not do eldest justice. it would just piss off all the readers even more.

Then again if they DO do it well, we'll have better Brisingr and bk 4 movies to look forwards to!

well it depends on your point of view but... i think it did and didn't at the same time but if you read the books they did.

they didn't follow the book at all but how else are they going to fit it in all the time they have.

NO NO NO NO!!!! i think they have screwed up the chance for making a descent sequel

Nuh-uh, They've already added in the twins and Elva in the L.E. and They'll most prolly get Arya back in town and make the dwarves a little shorter perhaps? Give the elves some pointy ears and then introduce Hrothgar, Orik etc.

i dought the movie will have a sequel they messed up a ton of things

they might be able to but theyll hav to mess up a lot of things cuz they didnt even hav the part where Eragon blessed the baby! shes like a main charicter in the second book.

I've been hearing a lot of things like the movie will come out in 2009 or 2011 after the other books have been released. But I think that's just rumors. Personally, I don't think there will be one.

how in the world do you get a Dragon?!?!?!?!

um... specail effects...

What exactly do you mean by how do you get a dragon? LOL.

IT SUCKED SO MUCH IT DIDN'T EVEN FOLLOW THE BOOK IT WAS JUST LIKE RANDIM CRAP BUT WE ALL KNOW WE WOULD GO SEE ANOTHER ONE AND WE ALL OWN THE MOVIE NOW DON'T WE?

I think that the movie was completely twisted and this really annoyed me. I would like to see the sequel, just so that I can see how on earth the actually managed to make the sequel after "Eragon" was so screwed up!!

In fact, I'm so obsessed with the books, and was so upset with the move, and was totally bored out of my brains, that I actually counted the differences between the book and the movie. (Yes, I know I'm totally crazy and that it was pointless) I counted 187.

That's a lot of differences. LOL. Well, all in all, I think that a sequel could be made. However, they have already messed up a lot of the overall plot, so like half of Eldest would be trying to fix what they messed up, and we wouldn't really get to see most of what we would want to see in Eldest.

Guess What? I heard a rumour that they would release a sequel in 2011!! Also, I thought a bit more about the differences, and I missed a few, I'm up to 190

if you have not read eldest or bridingr...do not read...this is a theory only!










they screwed up majorly, not really for eldest or even brisingr(though they did screw up for those too) but for the 4th movie.
if you remember, in farthen dure, eragon blesses Elva badly but this turns out to be a good thing because it saves nasuada's life.
when Eragon is about to lift the "blessing" from Elva, in brisingr, he first asks her to consider keeping her power as it may be the only way to stop galbatorix, she refuses and he performs the counter spell. but it is not as effective as he had hoped becasue Elva still retains her ability although she can ignore the dying or injured without feeling pain. this leads me to believe that she will play a major part in Galbatorix's downfall in the 4th book. in the movie, they leave the blessing out. How then can they make the 4th movie without the reason for galbatorix's downfall? again this is only speculation.

but on that same subject, they have to leave out a host of Elva-related parts of the book, Nasuada's near death incident by the "black hand" for example, wich is the reason she has guards posted around her and also one of the connecting ties to Selena, eragon's mother.

the movie crew really screwed up on that part, aside from that, the movie sucked...it was horrible, for instance changing "little one" (saphira's affectionate name for Eragon) to "young one", a change so stupid it defies sense, but one that also changes the expression of Saphira's feelings for Eragon...little one is an affectionate term, young one is not, it is something you would wxpect to be used when someone is scolding you or mocking you... just my thoughts however, interpret them as you will

That is certainly a lot to think about. The other thing that they didn't think about was the fact that not the whole series had been written yet. The smallest thing left out of the first movie could make a major difference to the way they have to end it compared to the way C.P ends it.

it screwed it up. left out many things from the book and changed them as well

Really how could they fix
1. farhen dur (miles across, top too high for dragons to fly over)
2. Arya (love intrest, calls Eragon leader of the Varden)
3. Dwarves (don't really seem to exist on any sort of scale)
4. Orik
5. twins
6. Nasauda (none exist)
7. Magic (In the film they say it comes from dragons.)
I really could go on but I don''t see the point. There really isn't a way for them to make a sequel without completely changing the story.

Really? Well I'll believe you, it's been ages since I've seen the movie however the point still stands. If you really want I can post that long list of things wrong with the movie but it would be a bit pointless.

Look you asked for the list
1. In the movie if a rider dies his/her dragon dies in the books this is not the case. (Brisingr pg 636-637)
2. the love interest with Arya is completely different from the one in the book where Eragon is spurned by Arya.
3. Urgals are part of the empires military forces in the film not controlled by Durzza as in the book
4. Hrothgar the dwarf king dosen't exist neither does Orik
5. Eragon is much stronger than Arya in the film where in the book he is clearly outmatched by her.
6. There don't seem to be any dwarves in the film as all of the people in farthen dur are of the same height.
7. The Twins don't exist
8. Farthen dur is easily accessible to dragons as saphira flies out of the crater in the film where as in the book the hole in the mountainn is too high for even dragons to reach.
9. Sloan seems to like eragon in the film he knows the egg is the king's propetry and tells him to hide it.
10. Sloan is tortured and killed in the movie
11. The Ra'zac die
12. Katrina dosen't exist
13. Brom believes he is responsible for there being only one dragon in Alagaesia
14. The foresworn don't exist
15. The geography is wrong in the film daret is near foothills of the Beor mountains instead of being in the northen reaches of the empire .
16. Surda dosen't seem to exist.
17. Saphira has to obey eragon in the film where as in the book she dosen't and stays by him because of their bond. (eragon pg 157)
19. Jeod dosen't exist
20. Horst role is cut to the mention of his name only once in the film.
21. No werecat or werecat prophecy and angela is met in daret which isn't on a plain as in the book but in a marsh.
22. No star rose
23. We don't know where Roran has gone so it is likely that if there is a second film roran's plot will be dropped and he will just show up at the varden.
24. In the film the varden are not aware of Brom or that he never played an important part in their councils.
25. Arya refers to Eragon as the leader of the resistance in the film where as in the book he swears fealty to the Vardens new leader Nasuada.
26. In the film it seems that there are only two dragons left saphira and shruikan no other eggs so no thorn.
27. Magic seems completely different from the book
28. In the film it says dragons are the source of magic in the books oromis says that magic exists in nature without riders or dragons.
29. In the film galbatorix wants to kill eragon where as in the books he wants to capture saphira.
30. In the film saphira instantly grows where in the book she gradually grows.
31. Eragon's power when he first uses magic is vastly incrased from when he used magic in the books.
32. Hadarac desert isn't mentioned and probably dosen't exist in the film world because of the other geographical mishaps.
33. Eragon isn't going to Ellesmera at the end of the film with Arya so will he get any additional training and do Oromis and Glaedr exist it.
34. Elva dosen't exist
35. Doesn't seem that Arya can use magic
That's a lot of problems to fix fox would spend half the movie just fixing problems spawned by the first movie.

They'd have to change a bunch of crap in the sequel.

It's movies, guys. All they would have to do is come up with some excuse, and/or change the script from the book again to make the narrative flow. They can always introduce the missing characters in the sequel through this manner.

since in the sequel he would have to go back to the varden before going to the elves, Elva may still be introduced. Orik would be much more difficult, but hrothgar and orik could be introduces when he returns to the varden for Eragon to mee tthe Dwarven clans, since he becomes initiated into the clan. the twins could show up to greet him when he returns. though i must say i did hate that they left so many essential characters out, and nearly walked out of the movie. if they do a sequel (which they are thinking about doing) it better be better or i will just stick to the books. ive been waiting so very impatiently for book four.