Arya predictions:

Introduction:

Anyone who has been on the Inheritance Forum will have notice this is the same topic and evidence, but i thought seeing im a member of both forums i should post this on both og them. Just to state I love Arya character for one. Yes she can be very cold and some may see her as arrogant. But really she's just a very subdued, pain filled, selfless person. She has given up so much for the good her people. Anyway that’s not the point, these are my predictions (with evidence) about some events that will happen to her in the third book (none of this is concrete, we’ll only know when the third book comes out – I also have a theory about when that is… but that later) Similar theories are already posted previously, others are just really subtle hints and the rest are just ideas and thoughts.

So everyone probably has read BILLIONS of topics on Arya being the green dragon rider or Arya's feeling for Eragon etc... and i am aware of the vast amounts of topics already established, so i don't want comments stating "there are so many topics on this" but i figured if i were going to post a topic entirely about Arya i have to write everything that i know (no point giving a half topic right?) anyway so for those who don't want to read all about theories i have given a list of topics so you can read just the ones that you like.

Topics are:

Prediction 1: Arya will fall in love with Eragon thus fulfilling Angela’s prophesy about Eragon.
Prediction 2: Arya will be the rider of the green dragon
Prediction 3. Arya leaving too? Where to? (also a bit on Saphira's mate at the end)
Prediction 4: What will Arya name her dragon?
Prediction 5: Arya’s Past

Prediction: Release date of the third book

Prediction 1: Arya will fall in love with Eragon thus fulfilling Angela’s prophesy about Eragon.

Many have stated that if Eragon falls in love he may not be loved back. But seriously who wants a book without a truly happy ending. It would be such a let down and a waste of relationship development if Arya and Eragon didn’t get together in the end. To my point, as said in Angela’s prophesy Eragon will fall in love with someone of noble birth and heritage. Only fitting candidate is Arya, yes Nasuada is noble but she was not of noble birth and heritage, she was born to a man who was fleeing from the Empire at the time. As for Arya she is the daughter of the Queen of elves!

Next he will fall in love with someone who is beautiful beyond compare. Well lets think how many time Eragon has commented on how she looks. Countless times. So that parts thumbs up. Their love will outlast empire, I find this funny as people say that she may not love him back, but then how is this “love” Eragon is suppose to have going to outlast empires if she never loves him back? Anyway they both live long lives so that’s two thumbs up.

Another point in Eragon about Angela’s predictions, pg 206,

“…Few young men with empty pockets can expect to be loved by a noble woman”

Okay this is pretty self explanatory but I just wanted to state that Angela did say “to be loved by a noble woman” not to love a noble woman but to be loved by one (receiving the love).

This is something I came across on a website, it may or may not be true but it is very interesting: In Eldest pg 590 it reads:

"Arya, I won't apologize for how I feel about you. However, I wanted you to know that I am sorry for how I acted during the Blood-oath Celebration. I wasn't myself that night; otherwise, I would have never been so forward with you."
"And you won't do it again?'
”It wouldn't get me anywhere if I did, now would it?"
Arya remains silent...

It can be suggested that the silence is symbolic, maybe just maybe they are speaking in the Ancient Language the whole time – this is proven when Arya asks how Eragon has fair since they last spoke and he tries to lie (hiding the fact that he has missed her so much) but can’t as the ancient language prevents him from lying. To the reason Arya remains silent, this is perhaps due to she knows she can't lie in the ancient language and knows that if Eragon keeps on pursuing her she may be unable to resist has advances.

Then Eragon apologises for his actions and Arya says “And you won’t do it again?” – I think she is trying to get him to promise he will stop pursuing her, perhaps because she is afraid that she will give into him?

Though this theory could be wrong and the reason she remains silent is not to hurt him anymore than she already has. Hearing her say that his pursuing her could result in no success and his love would remain unrequited would be more hurtful than if she said nothing, even though both are trying to imply the same thing to Eragon. She probably knows that he already knows the answer, she maybe just sparing him hurt out of her friendship with him. Now that I think about it, her “not” having feeling for him is more probable than her having them (at this stage anyway).

One thing i do have to point out which is more or less a hint on christopher paolini that he does intend on making the eragon and arya match up happen, is the quote in eldest chapter - The Burning Plains:

"Arya looked at him. Eragon met her gaze, and something lurched within him. He flushed without knowing why, feeling a sudden connection with her, a sense that she understood him better than anyone other than Saphira. His reaction confused him, for no one had affected him in that manner before."

Interesting stuff, i don't think this is a random piece of writing christopher put in there, but rather trying to show that Eragon has real feelings for arya rather than just an physical attraction to her. Anyway so from all the hints christopher paolini has given it appears that the eragon and arya pairing in the third book is a high possibility. Good thing or bad thing... that's a personal preference thing.


Prediction 2: Arya will be the rider of the green dragon?

Yes this is the most talked about topic regarding Arya other then the love thing between her and Eragon, so if you don't want to read this part it's fine.

Firstly: she is female, Christopher Paolini doesn’t want to be considered a sexist that all riders are male and even so to his female population of rider wannabes I’m sure this will make them happy to see a female elf kick some butt.

Second: she has green magic. This is totally relevant as Christopher Paolini did say that a person’s magic colour may change if they become a rider. My theory is that he either wants us to believe its Arya and shocked as when it’s someone else, OR more likely IMO he just wants to try and deter us because if we all thought it was Arya there wouldn’t be any fun in guessing who the next rider is. But it is a coincident that her magic is green.

Third: She is a well trained elf with over one hundred years of experience. She is also a fast elf with great magic abilities. Imagine having to train a new rider in magic, fighting skills etc… it would take so long, Eragon has been training for a great amount of time and he still lost to Murtagh. So Arya being the rider would make a lot of sense. Also we don’t have to go through the whole parts about reading on who they are trained, how they are progressing, we’ve already done that with Eragon. She would just have to bond with her dragon and wait for it to grow.

Fourth: IMO this is the most important point. She is Eragon love interest. Everyone who has read Eldest knows that she rejected Eragon at the blood-oath celebration. Many have speculated that she does have feeling for him and is just hiding them because of Faolin or the age difference or distracting him from his duty. But even if that is so that doesn’t mean she will ever love him, feelings don’t necessarily equal love (in the end). So my point is that if she ended out being the next rider, perhaps her dragon will be fall in love with Saphira and Saphira with the green dragon, which in turn leads to Arya’s feeling changing for Eragon. As said in Eldest (pages 67-68 I think) what a rider feels towards someone is linked to that of their dragon and vice versa. Seeing Eragon can not fall in love with a dragon the feeling will most likely be transfer to their rider (or at least it would be quite disturbing if a Eragon had those sort of feelings for the green dragon).

Well I should clarify something before moving on. I have said why not Nasuada but I have said nothing of the other candidates:

Roran:

Yes he is related to Eragon and Murtagh and a family of rider would be nice, but he is male as a start. By the way there is nothing wrong with being male but a female rider would be nice. Next he is technically not of rider’s blood, he was related to Eragon and Murtagh through Selena being his aunt (his dad – Selena’s brother) not related directly to Morzan. Not to mention he will take ages to train and i for one would definite not want to read all about the training for Roran as done for Eragon. Next many people thinks that Roran is going to the next king of Alagesia because there are frequent references in the books to his leadership skills. Also something about royalty being in Carvahall (theory on shurtugal.com) Lots of hints.

Vanir:

Well we don’t know much about him. But he would be a good candidate. But he is male and Christopher Paolini did state that there are lots of clues to the identity of the third rider in Eragon and Eldest and seeing Vanir wasn’t in Eragon I can't see the next rider being him.

Elva:

Has a very slim chance. She is female, but I can’t see her being the next rider as she will most likely be heal and transform back into a small infant. I don’t think that she won’t be heal as Eragon did say he was going to fine a way to fix the curse he put on her, as well as if she was a rider I don’t think that she would be very useful as she would be protecting everyone (including bad people) from harm as well as she would have difficulty harming people in the first place. Now people have said that she does have the mark of the dragons on her forehead, but this is irrelevant as this mark was not given by her dragon but by Saphira.

Katrina:

Now I really don’t get why people think that the rider can be Katrina. Okay yes she is female but she has no experience in fighting or magic or dragons whatsoever. She had a minor role in Eragon and there have been not hints as to her being the rider. She simply would not be trained in time for her to be of any use.

A new rider:

Well this is an option, but this rider can not have had any hints in eldest or Eragon from what I’ve read as Christopher Paolini said there should be. As well as we would have to spend countless chapters reading about there past etc… though there maybe there were hints we don't know about.

Orik:

This is probably one of the most unlikely candidates as in eldest it was stated that the dwarves were not included in the pact as well as they detest riding dragons.

Angela:

Unlikely, there are no clues, yes she does appear in both Eragon and eldest, she is female, though there is no reason she would touch the egg or come in contact with one and I can't really see Angela rider a dragon, waving a sword round and round. Angela has her place in the books and I don’t see that changing.

Christopher Paolini also stated that the identity of the rider should not be that unexpected but maybe “a tad surprising”. This clearly indicates that Arya is the most likely candidate due to it will not be that unexpected if she is the rider, but due to the amount of candidates and the different view of the large amount of readers, it may be surprising for some.

Yes she is a quite old, but as stated in Eldest, Arya is considered to be young for an elf as well as she is immortal so the age doesn’t really matter.

Prediction 3. Arya leaving too? Where to?

So what will happen to Arya when the war is over? She will not die (or at least I highly doubt it). So I have a theory that has been on many reader minds, she will leave Alagesia with Eragon? Doesn’t sound too farfetched? Well here’s the evidence.

If indeed Eragon and Arya fall in love, it is normal to presume that Eragon according to Angela’s prophesy will leave Alagesia with Arya. How will this happen? Well that’s simple, on the boat that Eragon saw in his vision.

Eragon pg 81, “The figures slowly boarded the vessel; two of them, taller than the rest, walked arm in arm. Their faces were obscured by cowls, but he could tell that one was a woman”.

Okay so let’s say that this is how Eragon leaves Alagesia. So one has to be a woman. Its states that the two people were HAND in HAND. I haven’t really heard of in Eragon and Eldest that “just friends” hold hands. So I guessing this is his love. So if Arya and Eragon fall in love it is safe to say that she is the woman on the boat leaving with him. And of course the dragons in the sky are the respective dragons to their riders.

Just a quick theory relating to this, it states “two of them, TALLER than the rest…”

I suggest that being taller than the rest CAN mean they are of higher status or are raised up. But it can also mean a physical attribute, perhaps the “rest” are dwarves and the man shouting and screaming is Orik saying goodbye. I could be wrong, they could just be taller because they are standing on the boat but who knows.

So where would Eragon and Arya go to?

Well the common theory is to the homeland of the elves, I believe this to be true. I did find some evidence supporting this:

Eragon pg 204:
I don’t’ have the exact quote but Eragon says that he doesn’t know of any other islands apart from Alagesia and questions why would he leave? He then goes on to say that even if there were other islands only the “elves” would know of them: implying if he left it would probably be with an elf, which in turn gives great evidence towards him leaving with a elf on the ship in his dream, and this elf would be female and who is the only elf that is female that we know of? Arya.

So continuing the whole Arya love topic. If Arya does get the last egg (I believe she will), there is one thing question to be asked? How do you know that the green dragon will mate with Saphira, because if the green dragon doesn’t, there will be less (not entirely none) chance of Arya returning Eragon affections.

Okay so lets break it down. Who are the candidates?

Green Dragon
Thorn
Glaedr
Shuikan
Random dragon?

Green dragon: As said before if ridden by Arya it may change her prospective on Eragon and thus they will fall in love. This will also fulfill Angela’s prophesy etc… also the age between the Green dragon and Saphira is not too great.

Glaedr, due to he has rejected her before and his rider is male and unless Eragon is gay (which is almost a 0% chance) Glaedr will not be the mate for Saphira.

Shuikan: most likely not for the same reasons, as well as Galbortorix is a 99.9999% chance of dieing and there is a great chance with dragon will die too, also there is a thing to do with Angela’s prophesy of Eragon leaving on the boat.

Random dragon: Unlikely as Saphira doesn’t just go into the wild and mate with random dragons, it just doesn't seem likely.

Thorn, this is the only theory I have for Thorn being Saphira mate. If they mate, then Murtagh prospective of Eragon will change. I’m not saying he will fall in love, but it may break the oath he swore to Galbortorix, thus turning him good. However he is male and part about Angela’s prophesy does come into play here too.

Therefore Arya is the most likely to be the girl on the boat and therefore her dragon to be (green dragon) is the most likely to mate with Saphira.

Prediction 4: What will Arya name her dragon?

This is almost impossible to determine. But I was reading in a forum and I found an idea that someone posted that is absolute great! It makes a lot of sense. But still there is no way to tell. Anyway here’s the theory, 4 options:

Faolin
Glenwing
Eridor
Random

Faolin: When I saw this I was shocked, as in “why didn’t I think of that”. Well this is the most likely of the guesses (but still unlikely) for the name for the dragon, as it’s in respect to her formal mate. Faolin was also male and the dragon is said to be male, so his name is therefore one of a male.

Glenwing: is likely as well, as Arya showed great respect to Glenwing and spoke of him highly but still Faolin is more likely as he is the reason she mostly grieves and I guess meant more to her.

Eridor: Like Saphira Eridor was the name of a former dragon, though i can not see any reason as to why Arya would name her dragon Eridor but it still has a small chance. People possibly think that this could be the name of the next book but IMO i doubt it.

Random name: Possibly as there are so many possiblities. But I think that if Arya is to have a dragon, it's name would be one of significance as all the other dragon's name have meant something to each rider. BTW i was told the significance of Thorn's name is when he introduce at the end of Eldest, something about Thorn being a thorn to his enemies? But it still could be a random name or perhaps a name that has signifcance we just don't know it.

Prediction 5: Arya’s past

This isn’t really a prediction, but more to do with Arya’s past. I believe that in the third book we will discover more about Arya, she is one of the main characters we really don’t know much about. We found out a lot about Eragon in both books, Roran in the second, Brom in the first etc… But Arya has been in both and played a key role and yet be know little of her. We have found out many things of her life but not through conversation more or less through assumptions. I believe it quite possible that one of the POVs in the third book will be Arya’s. Anyway I just discovered something really interesting.

I believe that Arya and Faolin have been in love for over 70 years. Seeing Arya was banished from her mother’s presence 70 years ago, therefore not being home for over 70 years, only on short visits. This could very well mean that the “fairth” of a male elf in her room (very likely to be Faolin) back in Ellesmera was created before she was banished. Therefore she couldn’t have created the fairth and put it in her room if she hasn’t been back in over 70 years unless it was created beforehand. Not to mention it is the same with the fairth of the flower he created her.

Prediction: Release date of the third book:

Many say the fall of 2007, yes I agree. But I also think I know which month and maybe the exact day…
I discovered when looking on wikipedia that:

Eragon release date: August 26 2003
Eldest release date: August 23 2005

Does anyone see a pattern? Each book has come out in August exactly 2 years apart. So my prediction is that Book III will come out August 2007, as for the exact date, I was thinking of:

Book III: August 20 2007, as the years go forward (03,05,07) the date seems to be going backward by threes (26,23,20). It’s just a theory but it does kind of make sense.

Anyway thanks for reading, comment if you like i don't mind (but please have respect and no rude comments)

I found your post quite thorough, and it does explain a lot about your theories about Arya. ( I was so close to putting tl;dr).

Mating: Arya's dragon will definitely be male so theres no arguement there. (assuming she gets it.)

Arya+Eragon=<3: Arya did reject him, but maybe theres something about riders that Eragon hasn't been told.

Arya getting the dragon: Most possible out of the options, but I don't know why people are so adamant on the fact that Greenie will even hatch :/

Little one, did u copy that from Shurtugal.com?

if saphira and greenie fall in love ayra will then have feelings for eragon

Reply to Fronzz: "Little one, did u copy that from Shurtugal.com?"

Absolutely Not, all of these theories are 100% mine. You could search shurtugal.com from head to foot and wouldn't find these theories on there. i did send them to shurtugal.com but they didnt reply. Their theories are more centered on Eragon and what they think will happen to him in book III. I am more centered on Arya as she is my favourite character

Reply to OrikTheMighty: "...but I don't know why people are so adamant on the fact that Greenie will even hatch"

Well if there is a green dragon the front cover of book III, i think it's pretty safe to say that the green dragon will hatch. It would seem pretty strange if there was a green dragon on the front of book III and no green dragon ever appear.

Ok, it just looks surprisingly like the ones on SHurtugal.com. My mistake!

wait.. if this is centred on arya, u didnt explain how greenie came into her posession. as 4 green magic, i think CP put it in there 2 trick us, b/c i read somewhere the next rider will be a surprise. so no, i dont think it will be arya.

PS how long did it take u to write that? it took me aprox. 10 min 2 read, almost as long as my maths homework.

LOL maths is a pain!

Anyway it took a very long time to write that... couple of hours each day over a few days. I did it progressively. Through reading the books, looking at speculated rumours and other evidence from other forums, reading what other fans think might happen, looking for clues or hints whilst randomly flipping through the books etc... Some of it i just put two and two together.

As for how Arya will get the green egg - to me it's a mystery, i can't really say, it could be in Helgrind and Eragon brings it back along with roran and katrina, it could be stolen by a new character, anything could happen... so at this stage i have no idea and i guess we'll never know until the book comes out. But from the evidence in the first two books as stated, its seems likely that arya will be the next rider - especially from the dream eragon had.

As for what Christopher Paolini said about the next rider. take a look on youtube or shurtugal.com. he actually says that "readers shouldn't be shocked by the identity of the new Rider, it may be "a tad bit surprising." so as i said because of the amount of candidates to be the next rider and the vast fan base for the book, for some readers arya being the next rider may come as a surprise.

But how do you know if she will get the egg? You're suggestions can't really be put in until we have confromation that Arya will get the egg. I for one don't think she will, she is way too powerful. I think Roran is better suited because then he wouldn't be overpowered and he and Eragon could train together. I have more but I can't think at this point.

I'm not saying she will get the egg - i can't know that for sure. i'm just suggesting the possibility. I have backed this suggestion with a lot of evidence - having gone through reasons for the many possible riders and as to why i think arya is the stand out candidate.

regarding the idea that arya will not get the egg because she is too power - i have to disagree, while arya may not get the egg (it could end out being anyone) many fans believe that she will get the egg due to the fact that she is already well established as a swordsman and is a very able magic user. therefore she would require very little training in these areas. many readers say it would be quite boring to go through the description of training another rider - while with arya she has learned already much of what eragon was thought by oromis, she would just require to be trained and bonded with her dragon and for her dragon to learn to breath fire.

as ive said these are just theories, we'll know for certain if they are in fact accurate when book III comes out.

i understand. but 2 me, if the new rider is not trainede properly, they will find themselves in a huge challenge. anyway, CP managed 2 get a new dragon rider in Eldest without explaining training(murtagh) so why cant he make some miracle occur and no one will need 2 know how the rider had their training.

well i think murtagh's training and what happened to him will be explained in book III. i also have other theories as to why i think arya is the next rider. for one the dream that eragon had, i can't imagine it being anyone else but him and arya and their dragons in the sky. there is more, have a look and if you want post again on your thoughts

Also I think while Eragon was being trained, Murtagh was more than likely training as well. Because Eragon spent a couple of months in Ellesmera and Galby wasn't really doing much that we know of, so more than likely he was training Murtagh at the same time Eragon was being trained.

well, i suppose. but in eragon's dream, was there dragons in the sky??

oh. i suppose eragon and murtagh

wow,i agree with none of your predictions(that i read)....maybe its that i dont like arya.....idk but me and imnc have been going on about the 2nd 1 for a very long time...for the first 1,read the topic on it,i explain my position

i didnt read 3 and for 4...well imo i don't think she would have the egg ne way....but if she does get the egg then it may be faolin or glenwing....

i didnt read 5 either

eragon and murtagh's dragons(saphira and thorn) in the sky.

Unlikely to be Eragon and Murtagh dragons. although yes they both have dragons, the dragons will most likely (not a certainty but most likely) belong to the "two people who were taller than the rest" and as eragon stated he could make out that one of them was a woman - plus they were holding hands. so it seems unlikely that one of the dragons is murtaghs and its kind of predictable that one of the people on the boat is eragon. but still it may not be arya but she seems the likely candidate.

Really, to me, it would be a disappointment if Arya became a rider. It would be such a protocol ending that has no flare. Its basically the "And they lived happily ever after" ending which is used in most of the books. It would be a shame if the Inheritance Series ended with a protocol.

Ok, to point out one thing, Saphira said to him something like that if he or she falls in love with somebody, Eragon (or Saphira for that matter) will be influenced likewise, when he talked with Trianna. And since Thorn has already hatched, she rejects the idea of mating with Shruikan, and Glaedr has rejected her, the green dragon is the only one who is a possible love interest for her. And if Arya just happens to be the Green Dragon's rider, and green dragon & saphira fall in love, then it's possible that Arya may change her feelings.

bloody hell thats a lot of writing

what is?

Murtagh definitely got training, though not under his own will... and it was all under the influence of Galbatorix's evil way so I suppose a lot of evil magic taught to Murtagh and some cheating going on.. lol

As for Arya, I totlally agree with her being in love with Faolin. And the other way around. When Eragon asked about her guards death, she mentioned the other but not Faolin. And of course, the flower that Faolin made for Arya that she totally treasured. And his picture she keeps in the house(at least I'm think it's him, though I'm sure) is all evidence she loved him.

But I disagree that you think she never returned home. She actually has, because she's a guardian of the egg. She goes back and forth between the two places, delivering the egg and such. And also she helps deliever messages from Ellesmera to the Varden. It's jsut that she spends mor eof her time in Varden, though I'm sure she has gone back to Ellesmera the few times she was delievering the egg.

I'm a little wary about the third dragon rider being Arya, I mean, there is that possibility, but then there's the possibility it could be another person as well. I would like it to be Arya, but I don't know if just the dragon's love can force her to forget Faolin, whom I think is the reason why Arya really doesn't want Eragon to love him, besides the fact of getting in the way of his training.

I agree. I think that arya being rider is to predictable. It would upset me to no end if she was rider.

well, who else? the varden need a rider that's strong in magic and already trained in both that and sword fighting, which arya is. she fits the criteria perfectly, and, if eragon leaves for alalea with the elves, then it would be saphira and greenie in his dream

*yawn* it's all old to me. Some of your points are weak and the rest have been said (by me) a million times. I agree wholeheartedly, but there was a bunch in there that did not strengthen your argument, which thus draws away from it.

we should probably argue all points in their respective threads: the Does Arya Love Eragon thread, the Who Will be the Next Rider thread, but the other two arguments can stay.

Here's something I found from one of my previous posts (2 lazy atm to find the last exact passage):
When Eragon arrives, page 586: "Eragon!" This time Nasuada seemed delighted and relieved. Arya, too, seemed pleased.

And "The candle still burns." Come on. If your friend came back when you thought he was dead, you would do a bit more than murmur. She's obviously hiding something. She's most likely hiding her true emotions for Eragon. What she really did was over-suppress them. Any friend would do more than murmur a cryptic phrase.

And then last, the hesitation before she left him before the battle, which I can't seem to find, but is still relevant. We were meant to see something in this, but what is harder to find.

I am lost (sry I haven't read Eragon/Eldest in like a year so I can't remember the finer details.) Explain further please? *begs*

People r always saying the same thing as u and it annoys me SO much!!! But u actually EXPLAINED it. So now I understand, and mostly agree.

THANKS!!!