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IgnasiaEldrvarya96
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How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
If Gleadrs HoH is older than most wouldn't that make it more powerful. So how many HoHs equals the power of Gleadrs?
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July 20th, 2009, 2:48 pm |
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aluminiumclock
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
We don't know the average power in a Hohs so we don't know how many will equal the power in Glaedr don't forget that Galby has some Eldunari which are far older the glaedr's.
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July 20th, 2009, 3:14 pm |
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IgnasiaEldrvarya96
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
true but Gleadrs is centruies older than some other dragon since he survived.
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July 20th, 2009, 3:23 pm |
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aluminiumclock
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
1. Around one century ago the riders fell not centuries longer so at most Glaedr is one century older. 2. They were dragons that were born hundreds of years before Glaedr whose Eldunari Galby possesses.
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July 20th, 2009, 3:30 pm |
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IgnasiaEldrvarya96
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
true but i meanhow many HoHs is gleadrs worth 1,2,3???? Like the newer dragons that were only like a cuntury old cause gleadr teached dragons for centuries and survived a century after the fall so he must be like 1300yrs old
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July 20th, 2009, 3:40 pm |
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Azzydrag
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
Just like AC said....We don't know the average power in HOHs. And as for other HOHs, just because Glaedr was old doesn't mean all the others were young. I'm sure CP will further explain this in the next book.
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July 20th, 2009, 6:50 pm |
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Vrail
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
ive reread the book many times and it seems like orimis and gleadrs where old before galby was even born. therefore is seems most likely that gleadr is one of the older dragons to exist making him 7 days after he dies when his hoh matures one of the stronger hoh there is no average because all dragons die at different ages but garenteed he is probably stronger then thorn sphira and galbys dragon put together (galbys dragon not having accsess to any other hoh of course)
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July 20th, 2009, 7:04 pm |
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aluminiumclock
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
You have missed the point. By the way the energy in the HoHs increases over the 5 to 7 years not 7 days. Anyway there would be an average because there is a total number of hearts and the total power in all the hearts is finite. total power/total number = average.The point was that Glaedr can only help Eragon with magic and with mental strength but Galby has Eldunari which are far older than Glaedr.
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July 20th, 2009, 7:16 pm |
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IgnasiaEldrvarya96
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
the power of a HoH depends on the dragons age and gleadr is one of the oldest dragons there was. Oromis wasnt a dragon rider long after they were created he was a dragon rider like after 100 years of the dragon riders
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July 20th, 2009, 7:21 pm |
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aluminiumclock
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
I think you should switch your name to "stating the obvious" or "spam" or "completely useless comments 24/7" or "I'll just copy what everyone else has said" please SHUT UP and actually contribute new information with your next post Also Oromis was a rider millennium after the creation of the riders not a hundred years after their creation.
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July 20th, 2009, 7:36 pm |
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IgnasiaEldrvarya96
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
sorry if some of my info is off cause a dont have a copy of the books on hand right now. Im just using my memory.and dont be so PUSHY!!!!!!!!!!
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July 20th, 2009, 8:52 pm |
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aluminiumclock
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
I wasn't talking about your info being wrong that I wouldn't mind.You however don't add any new information wrong or right in any of the posts of yours that I have seen so far you just repeat what has already been said. The fact that you think my post was about your information is a statement in itself. Note: your post actually contributed some new information. WELL DONE However it wasn't that you don't have a book you have already said that in one of your previous post, no they new information was that you don't actually understand English and this information was accidentally given so we can also conclude that you can't follow simple instructions. On topic: I think that Glaedr is fairly powerful and will give Eragon extra strength should he need it however I don't think he is anywhere near powerful enough to tip the scales versus Galby even if Glaedr was 5000 years old.
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July 20th, 2009, 9:13 pm |
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IgnasiaEldrvarya96
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
i know that what i was sayin was gleadrs HoH would equal like 7 smaller ones
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July 20th, 2009, 9:16 pm |
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aluminiumclock
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
Oh I should have guess this topic is another statement of the obvious. If I said I was surprised and would be lying.
On topic: Glaedr Eldunari would be worth lots of smaller ones. How many? we can't really know I would say 3-6 times as powerful as Saphira because Glaedr is not more than that many times bigger the Saphira.
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July 20th, 2009, 9:26 pm |
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IgnasiaEldrvarya96
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
thank you for finaly giving me the answer i was looking for.
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July 23rd, 2009, 11:51 pm |
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ruben-elda
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
i think the difference between the amount of energy stored in 2 eldunaris is proportional with the difference in size. if glaedr's HoH is twice as big as some other's eldunari, than the energy stored in glaedr's is 2 time more than the other eldunari's energy.
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April 7th, 2010, 11:41 am |
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gomenesigh
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
That is one way they are different but another is how long they have been in an Eldunari. Glaedr won't have as much energy right now compared to another who has been in there for years, even smaller ones will have more energy.
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April 7th, 2010, 12:43 pm |
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ruben-elda
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
not exactly. glaedr hasn't used his entire amount of energy when he fought thorn so there is still a big amount of energy left in his HoH. also we do not know how fast an eldunari gains energy.
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April 7th, 2010, 2:36 pm |
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gomenesigh
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
Oromis said it takes years upon years to gain the full amount of energy an Eldunari can hold and he never said that dragons take their energy with them when they transfer and Glaedr was out of sorts when he did plus he was already weakened from battle so there probably isn't a whole lot.
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April 7th, 2010, 8:10 pm |
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ruben-elda
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
hmm i guess i'll have to reread brisingr. but even so, murtagh's eldunaris are pretty empty as well. eragon bested him with the help of the elves so there must not be that much energy in a heart.
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April 7th, 2010, 9:36 pm |
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aluminiumclock
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
Actually dragons do they take their spare energy with them into the eldunari when they die. Quote from Oromis on page 635 of the hard-back copy of Brisingr. "it has been proven that when a dragon undergoes body death and their consciousness takes up sole residence in their heart of hearts, they bring with them however much spare strength was available in their body when it ceased to function." However you are right about them gaining energy over time but the full power they can absorb before coming saturated is limited by the size of the heart and nothing else.
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April 9th, 2010, 4:33 pm |
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Vrail
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
think about how big a HoH is tho, wait how big is one? i think it would be much bigger than eragons pomel of his sword right? so that means it can hold a lot of energy
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August 21st, 2010, 2:33 am |
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gomenesigh
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
You can't say how many is an Eldunari worth because every one is different. There are some bigger than his and some smaller so there can be no amount that his is worth.
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August 23rd, 2010, 2:05 am |
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Vrail
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
yes but how big is the average HoH?
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August 23rd, 2010, 3:33 am |
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gomenesigh
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
There is no average. It is dependent only on how old the dragon lives for. Glaedr lived longer than most and his was huge. Murtagh had one he could hold in his hand so I am guessing that that dragon lived around 20-30 years. There can be no average with the span at which they can live.
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August 23rd, 2010, 1:30 pm |
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Vrail
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
when did murtag have one he could hold in his hand?
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August 24th, 2010, 12:43 am |
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aluminiumclock
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
If you killed a baby dragon and took it's eldunari it would be even smaller than a hand sized one, however it wouldn't be able to store much energy.
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August 24th, 2010, 4:03 pm |
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Vrail
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
i know but when did murtagh have a HoH in the books, i mean it said he had one
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August 24th, 2010, 7:19 pm |
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gomenesigh
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
When they were fighting, I am pretty sure Thorn was hurt and Murtagh healed him with a HoH.
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August 25th, 2010, 12:38 am |
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Vrail
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Re: How many HoH's is Gleadrs worth
this is not comfimed anywhere Dx however he did say hed rather rip out his hearts then surrender
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August 26th, 2010, 5:25 am |
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