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 Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran? 
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Post Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
In Brisingr, we are given more details about Selena, her early years with Morzan, her part as the Black Hand as well as how her relationship with Brom came to be.
We are told she was a powerful spellcaster, and we see Eragon interested in teaching Roran magic, and Roran in learning it.

It got me thinking of the possibility of Roran having the magic dormant within him. (I am sure Paolini did not include this just for the sake of it.) Later in the book, we see Roran trying to raise a pebble with magic, but with no luck.

This made me go back to my wishful thinking about Roran being the next Rider.

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
who knows?
he might just actually be the next rider...

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
no I think Roran will be the next king of Alagaesia and people wouldnt allow him to be king if he was a rider, Galby would still be fresh in their minds.


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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
Yeah I agree with you, and also another point is that he knows nothing of magic and his swordsmanship is not good

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his swordsmanship aint good but with his hammer, he can kill an entire batallion or a unit!!!!!!! hes killed 200 men himself lol

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
hes gonna be the king, although hes gonna not want to be, but he'll see that theres no other alternatives. Arya's gonna be the next dragon rider cuz she's still the only person whos rly fit to fill that position.

As for Roran being able to use magic, i think he'll be able to use it. CP for sure wouldnt go on about that, if it wasnt gonna happen.

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
I think Arya is going to be the next rider, Roran the next king (he will be very powerful and know magic).

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darkm98 wrote:
hes gonna be the king, although hes gonna not want to be, but he'll see that theres no other alternatives. Arya's gonna be the next dragon rider cuz she's still the only person whos rly fit to fill that position.

As for Roran being able to use magic, i think he'll be able to use it. CP for sure wouldnt go on about that, if it wasnt gonna happen.


The best leaders are the ones who don't want to...
I think the author's just trying to throw us off. :P
Or he'll be magical and there will be a Queen of Alagaesia...

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
if Roran becomes king, Katrina will be Queen, and their son/daughter will be Prince/Princess. that would be awesome!!

As for Roran using magic, it is my belief that everyone can you magic you just have to practice it over and over. so i'm not so sure about there being magic running in the family, because if Roran had it then Garrow would have and back on like that.

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Maybe Garrow had it. but he didnt no how to use it and that it was there.....

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i guess that could be true

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
I like the idea,it makes sense. Selena and both her sons had magic,so why not roran? Also,CP already has him trying to use magic,and i don't think he would do that if Roran didn't have the power. Kit:Just because something runs in the family doesn't mean it pops up in every person. However,i don't think Roran will be the next rider. We need a female rider. I don't think he'll be king ,either. i think Nasuada will be Queen.

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
maybe nasuada will die in the fourth book. roran will be the next king. and maybe CP tells us roran can't use magic, so there will be a normal human king, with no magical powers. look how well nasuada's doing at leading the varden and she can't use magic.
and arya is definitely gonna be the next rider


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Maybe that does happen. But there's a lot of "maybe' there and no real reason.

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
arya's the next rider. I think to make the last book more exciting, paolini will have nasuada die. But another thing contradicts it that I have been thinking. Eragon would be the next leader of the varden, so he can't leave with arya to wherever.

But then again, if the varden win, then it wouldn't be needed and then dissappear. Roran could be king and everyone's happy :) (this is probably only if nasuada dies)

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Well, there wouldn't have to be a varden after galby dies.

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Yeah good point. They would return to the citys and stuff.

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
There would be no need to fight Galbatorix and Murtagh, but an army will always be necessary in Alagaesia.
If it's called Varden or Army, it's irrelevant...

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
but another thing is, now that all the dwarves, humans and elves are allied, then there would be no big threat to any of them left. Unless some foreign power comes across the sea or the mountains and the haradac desert, there is no need to even have an army.

however, (just remembered the situation today), it would leave too many unemployed and then w/out an income, making alagaesia's economy go down.

I main point in this post is that there would be almost no need for an army if there is no threat. The dwarves and the elves will be able to protect the humans if they have too

You know, I noticed that many of these theories about what will happen depend on the fact that eragon & co will kill or defeat galby, but we don't know for that for sure. (howeverm I truly hope that eragon defeats Galby)

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
i dont think that if nasuada dies that roran will lead the varden.i think eragon will because in book 3 nasuada says that she has chosen eragon as her sucessor if she is to die.and roran has not been in the varden as long as so many people.and as for the rider,i think it will be ayra because shes is the only person fit for it.=P


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The Varden is mainly Familys and citazens, who's son and fathers help defend there moutina or where ever they are. The main people woman and kids and stuff, would return to the citys. Some people would stay and join the New Army under the New King, but some would perfer not to.

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And we are all OFF TOPIC!!

So as I said; magic seems to be strong in Eragon's family...

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
roran has the physical strengh to preform magic so i supose its possible he can use magic but i think it will take him a long time learn but it will be important in the 4th book C.p never mentions something unless its important.

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Roran's father is Garrow. Don't tell me Garrow now has magic promise, I will die of laughing. Although Eragon is relatided to Roran, he is to distant I think. Magic seems to be passed from parnet/kids.

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I Agree

the only reason that eragon & murty got powers is becuz of brom and morzan.

Selena had nothing to do with the magic part(s) of the family. (or so we can infer)

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no because selnea became quite a strong magic user didn't she so it stands to reason roran has some potential if his aunt could use magic. its like some one with a brown haired aunt and 2 blonde parents gets brown hair isn't it.

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oh yea

forgot about that selena learned to use magic from morzan

but wasn't that after roran was born

maybe since selena had the ability to learn the magic then roran could have that potential too.

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Yes, but she had the ability. Whether or not she found it by herself is beside the point.

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what i mean is roran will never be as good as other magic users but i think he can learn some magic.

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maybe to cast a small ward or to be able to light a fire or just imagine if he could blind 2 out of 5 soldiers in a 1 against 5 fight he could give himself a small but useful advatage.

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what i mean is roran will never be as good as other magic users but i think he can learn some magic.



We don't know that, DuBrisingr! We need to wait and see if he does develop the ability to use and master magic in Book VI!

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we don't i supose i'm comparing him to eragon and the like sorry

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There's no need to be sorry! I just pointed the fact that there are no absolutes. We still have one book to go.

I am a romantic at heart, and though I was all for Roran becoming the next Rider, that changed the moment he married Katrina and we were told she's pregnant.

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yeah it would be kind of messed up watching your wife and kid get old and die and know that you will be immortal and will live with the memories of their deaths for 1000s of years.

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Exactly! And since Roran loves Katrina above all,I do not think he'll be the next Rider

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yeah really it has to be someone whos single and only has imortal relatives hmm who does that sound like? oh i rember arya.

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But him not being a Rider, does not rule him out for being able to develop and use magic!

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your right their i think magic is kid of like a skill every one can learn it just some people have a natural talent for it.

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April 19th, 2009, 3:58 pm Profile
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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
For all we know, his talent may be dormant. It may surface if he is trained. But what would he need magic for? :?

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
its like i said theres alot of little spells that would help a warrior in battle like wards against arrows.

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
Oh! I was thinking more around the lines as a farmer, not a soldier!

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April 19th, 2009, 8:23 pm Profile
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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
yeah i'm just saying about his career in the varden but as a farmer he could proberly use magic to help increase his crop yeild.

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
as much as I would love for roran to be the next king, didn't he promis in his vows that he would settle down and have a farm and home with katrina in carvahall

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
YUP! Exactly what I've been saying all along! He gave his word, and in this story, your word is your honor.

I really hope he returns to Carvahall and rebuilds the village!

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
if hes like garrow (with a bit of eragon) then he could do it

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possibly

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most likely with practice.

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
mAGIC iN tHE fAMILY????Eragon And Roran Are Not Related!!!!!


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What do you mean, they aren't related? Of course they are! They're cousins!

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Post Re: Magic within the family! Selena, Eragon, now Roran?
Isn't magic just being able to focus your will well enough? It’s kind of described as just another way of doing something... and while he can never be as strong as an elf, due to his decreased physical strength, couldn’t he still be a spell caster so long as he had the dedication to learn?

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good idea

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