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Post Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Yeah I thought of this when I first read the book/probs been mentioned alot.

Brisingr pg. 648

Eragon could see that Rhunon had forged Tamerlein for a person with a different fighting style to his own, a style that relied more on cutting and slashing than the faster, more elegant techniques that Brom had taught him.
As soon as Eragon's fingers closed around Tamerlein's hilt, he realised the hilt was too large for his hand

Tamerlein's green. Next dragon is green. Next Rider will most likely get Tamerlein. Next Rider is Arya? Does this description of a sword fit for something of Arya's? Problem.

Unless somehow they alter the sword ... this doesn't seem like CP's approach. CP is really ... easy to work out. His plans. So either they alter Tamerlein (which does not sound like something CP would write as happening, too complicated ...)

Or someone else gets Tamerlein. Probably Roran.

If it was me and I were CP, I'd say that all of a sudden you find out that Vanir was part of the house that owns Tamerlein and he becomes a Rider and Tamerlein is his and perfect. But that's not CP-ish enough. That's me-ish.

What do you think? Think CP will be sexest and grant another guy as Rider because of this?

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
It's hard to say. I don't think Arya will be the next rider because she is too obvious and they don't talk about female riders very often though I know there were some. I don't know if the next rider would get that sword or if Rhunon would even allow it to happen.

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I agree with the facts you've presented, it does sound like a sword Roran can use (since he has learned to use one) I don't know though.. they present Roran as being the entirely human hero, brave and powerful without any kind of special powers. And if another of this groups theories comes true and Roran becomes king then really he can't become a Rider, nobody in the book wants another Galbatorix/king who won't age and die with time.

It would be nice if it were Arya, but she would have to have a new sword made for her for that to happen, which as we've seen with Eragon is an ordeal XD and it seems to me that some people would be less inclined to let themselves be controlled than others.

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Yes, especially an elf who has gone through so much and if Roran did become a rider I don't think he would get Tamerlein because his fighting is so unique and he never really used a sword. He would have to practice a lot.

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Most likely the next Rider will get Tamerlien.

CP is easy to figure out though. Brom ended up Eragon's father as everyone thought. Arya could well end up the next Rider.

If it weren't for her sword.

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But either way the new dragon rider will get a new sword.

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There is plenty of starmetal to make another sword if Arya becomes the next rider which I hope she will.

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Hey, what about Naegling? Would that fit Arya's style of fighting?

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
Why not?She really deserves it.Some sa that it would be Roran or Nasuada.I don't think so.,I mean,she's is stronger than Nazuada and Roran,she's wiser than Nazuada and Roran,she's even older than Nazuada and Roran,and she knows how to ride a Dragon,she has also carried Saphrias egg so se has an expirience with dragons.She's even stronger than Eragon.But havin Arya being a rider could also bring Eragon and her closer.Actually it makes sense.The las Dragon is a male so he can "fell in love"with Saphira,then the chances are more to have a mariagge between Eragon and Arya.The dragons are in love,the riders are in love...all good,and then the couls leave alagaisia both.

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It would not help the situation between Arya and Eragon. Arya does not want a relationship for many reasons, one being that their ages are too far apart and she has been through so much. That will not change if she becomes a rider.

Reasons she wont become a rider are the same that you stated. CP has already had her ride Saphira so I don't think he will have the egg hatch for her. She carried an egg for a hundred years and it did not hatch for her. She is also already really important so it would be a waste to have her be the next dragon rider.

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I have to be picky about just one specific point, and that is that Dragons are picky, Saphira did not hatch for her because she was not ment to be Saphiras rider, that doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with Arya it just means that that one specific egg/dragon wasn't ment for her.

An egg could easily hatch for Arya, sadly as said before I rather doubt it will be the next one.. but who knows, people say it won't be Arya, because that would be too obvious. But the very fact that people don't believe it could be Arya because that would be too obvious means that if it were Arya it would shock most people because they didn't think it would be her, if that makes any sense lol XD

still... that blasted sword.. is the real problem with the entire thing, it will likely be Roran, dispite the fact that he is just as obvious.. if not moreso than Arya.

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Post Re: Why Arya is probs not next Rider T_T
this has been thought about so much and for so long, that practically anybody is obvious by now, lol.

so... it's anybody's game, really. lol

then there's also the small chance that there won't be a next rider, loll.

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Maybe it's another factor that we have to consider.The next Dragon is a green one and Arya's magics are green too.The same thing happened to Eragon,Saphira is blue and his magicks are blue to.That could be another clue.What's your opinion?

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Eragon's is not blue. He has used blue fire before but that probably has to do with Saphira or maybe his true name. We have barely seen Arya use magic in the books and people's magic isn't based on colors.

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Arya's magic being green wouldn't be direct proof, just a kind of foreshadow indicator, but it is possible.

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Which we don't know if it is. Magic isn't a color. Angela doesn't have a color. Oromis doesn't have a color. Brom doesn't have a color. Eragon is just different.

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well most of the time that you hear Arya doing magic, it's green.

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Well thank you for agreeing with me!

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No, you don't. The few times we see or hear about her doing magic it is not associated with a color. If I am wrong than please show proof. Oromis didn't have a color and neither does anyone else except Eragon.

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Throughout many interviews CP said people usually have a signature colour but can change it if they want. Eragon's is blue, but if he wanted pink fire he could change it.

Brom's was blue but after Saphira died it went red.

This has been discussed alot.


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but It could be a clue

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It has been discussed so much on so many levels ... trust me ... You should've been here back in the insane days ...

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I wish i had...

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So do I. Brom said that the color of magic is because of it's caster. Eragon's magic is usually blue. Where does it say that Arya uses green magic?
I f Arya's magic really is green, it might be because she is an elf.

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It is said in the prologue of the first book when she teleports the egg.I cannot tell you exactly what it saids because me book is in greek but i think it tells something about an emerald light.And emeralds are green

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It says green in Eldest and Eragon and Brisingr I think.

If you've missed that, you've not read the books properly.

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No, you don't. The few times we see or hear about her doing magic it is not associated with a color. If I am wrong than please show proof. Oromis didn't have a color and neither does anyone else except Eragon.


xD I'm not scrounging up the books if you don't want to believe me then go ahead lol, but you can go check yourself if you aren't sure.

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redshurtugal08 is right.Go have a look and stop arguing with people all the time...

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You do not have to be rude. Don't say things like that and stay on topic or you will be reported. One of the whole points of forums is to discuss your different opinions. I've read the books several times very thoroughly and magic is never associated with colors. Oromis was never compared to a color and the only time Eragon is is when he is using fire. The green light that appeared with the egg could mean anything.

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Says somewhere when they're travelling to Ellesmera in Eldest that Arya would create a green orb of light for them to follow when it got too dark.

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I'd love for it to be because she is going to be the next rider, but it might also be because she is an elf and elves are very into nature.

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Ok you are right,sorry,i didn't mean
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I'd love for it to be because she is going to be the next rider, but it might also be because she is an elf and elves are very into nature.


No one knows if she is going to be the next rider. It could mean that it is because she is so close to nature because they don't talk about anyone else and a color.

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That made no sense ...

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Yeah it does you just didn't read. Arya said Arya will be the next chararacter which she doesn't know and it is wrong to presume. Her "aura" could be green because all elves are close to nature and there is never any mention of anyone else having a "color."

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geez, you bash pretty hard. just chill.... lol.

okay, no color, that's not a clue... it's an impossibility? happy? xD

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It could be green only for her and the colour could be green because she is not only an elf, but the reader's main thread of connection towards the elven world.

I don't think elves all have green magic. CP would've said something, just like he talked about hair colour.

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If they all had different colors CP would have said something.

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There probably is a reason behind the color of people's magic though.

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If they all had different colors CP would have said something.


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Arya's magic was just listed as green. If they were all the SAME Paolini would have said something. He just described her because she is a main character who uses magic or it's important. No where does it say "elves have all got green magic because they're close to nature". Why assume that? I swear there was a little more than green at that Blood-oath thing.

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Then why did he never mention Oromis or Izlandsadi or any other important character? There were kind of more colors I guess but that's because there was more magic than just elf magic at work, and the elves cast magic at that time.

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Oromis' colour is obvious. Just like Murtagh's.

Islanzadi never used much more than moving stuff by clapping her hands.

None of those elves were main characters.

Now, where's it say elves are all greenies?

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Where does it say that every person has a different color? Neither of them is obvious. I would guess Oromis would be grey or a soft color but you would argue that it would be something else. Oromis does plenty of magic and even transports something like Arya did. He didn't have a color.

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His color is probably gold like his dragon.

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Where does it say that every person has a different color? Neither of them is obvious. I would guess Oromis would be grey or a soft color but you would argue that it would be something else. Oromis does plenty of magic and even transports something like Arya did. He didn't have a color.



I think I'll also assume elves all have green eyes like Arya. Do you think that?

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Didn't he say about the color thing in an interview? I seem to remember something like that. :?

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I don't remember :/ I just thought everyone's was different, like basically what Brom said.

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The color varies from person to person. It depends on who says the word.
I think that a dragon rider's magic is the same color as it's dragon. I'm not sure about non-dragon riders though.

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Having different eye colors can't be compared to having the same magic color. Physical features are genetics from your family.

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What's that supposed to mean?

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Like if your whole family has always and forever had blue eyes you will too. If you have a family with dark hair and eyes you will probably have that. Lots of illnesses are genetic too.

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But what does that have to do with the topic?

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gomenesigh wrote:
Like if your whole family has always and forever had blue eyes you will too. If you have a family with dark hair and eyes you will probably have that. Lots of illnesses are genetic too.


You would've seen the flaw in what I'd said ... had you known elves can physically change themselves however they want.

Hmm .. maybe magic is genetic. Could assume that.

I don't know, believe whatever, I don't necessarily care lul ...

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I don't think that magic color is genetic. The color of each person's magic has to with the person using the magic.

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I recall Brom said something about everyone having a color... but if you're a dragon rider then it automatically changes to your dragon's color...

we have spent far too much time arguing about this. no one is willing to present proof xD.

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Proof on what the color of everybody's magic is? I already said it:
The color varies from person to person. It depends on who says the word. Brom's exact words.

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Arya can't be killed.She is a key character.

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Arya can be killed. she is not that important and not required to finish the series.

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She is very important. CP wouldn't kill her anyway.

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important characters can die too, xD.

CP wouldn't kill her. unless he evolves his writing in the last book. *shrug*

oh, and eragon+arya, good to see that you posted proof, lol. I hadn't seen that before, my bad.

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I think that there is a slight situation that there will be no new dragon rider or there will be someone very unimportant...

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I don't think so. Without a new rider, Eragon stands no chance, unless Murtagh changes his true name on time, which I hope he will.

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But the new rider will appear after the defeat of Galbatorix,won't she/he?

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If Murtagh changes his true mame in time. then dragon hatching might be part of the epilogue.

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Vagabond wrote:
But the new rider will appear after the defeat of Galbatorix,won't she/he?


The new dragon rider has nothing to do with Galby being defeated or not. The dragon might sense it is dangerous to hatch while in his possession but Thorn hatched. Galby could be defeated and the egg could never hatch for anyone.

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The might not hatch before Galby's defeat, but it will hatch.

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You don't know that. No one does. I don't think it will because unless the book takes place over the time period of years or it hatches with Galby than it would be pointless to hatch because the dragon would never get big enough to ride.

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The last egg is pretty important. It's not going to not hatch.

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Again, you don't know that. I'm not going to repeat why I think it's unlikely.

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I doubt Arya would be the next rider, it is way to obvious. The next rider may not even be a character we know.

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But CP doesn't really have time to introduce a new character.

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It could be someone who has been in the books that is just not as obvious as a main character.

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In brisingr, when Eragon went somewhere to meet Angela, there were two women wit hher who were getting their dragon bones read. Maybe it's on of them.

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That is exactly what I have been saying. I hope it is one of them.

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That would be very cool! :)

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I hope that they aren't.

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Don't spam. You have to say why you don't think that. I think it will because no one else fits.

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Yes, those are probably the two most suitable characters. Everyone else is to obvious, you need to get someone that you have encountered before but had no dialouge with or hardly any at all.

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They would take way to long to train.

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Not necessarily. We don't know anything about those two other than they were slaves at one point who were treated horribly and that they to some degree know about true names.

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Where does it say that they were slaves?

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No idea :shock: :shock:

Well to me they seem like the best candidates and we will just have to wait until book four to find out :(


PS: Does anyone know when it is being released?

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No idea. I really want it to come out, but I'll be so sad when it's over.

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Maybe he will write a fifth book.
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Saphira tells the women to make sure to avenge themselves against whoever left them the scars that are mentioned that are on their wrists. She says something like make sure to hurt whoever enslaved you or something.

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I'll have to go back and read that part.

saphira12: I don't think that he'll make a fifth one.

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Darn :t_cold:

Well, one of those two women seem to be the most possible candidates. I wonder if the older one was Selena.

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Possibly, but it would make things repetitive.

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How could it be selena?Isn't she dead?

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They never mentioned anything about her death. her whereabouts are just unknown.

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Actually it said that she had died shortly after giving birth to Eragon.

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In which book was that mentioned? I can't remember reading that :?

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I'm not sure. I think that it might have been Brisingr when Oromis tells Eragon about his mother.

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Murtagh says it during one of the battles. He explains that she left for like 9 months and when she returned she was really sick and died soon after.

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There we go. Selena is dead.

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I'm new so sorry if I say something thats been said already. But I think the green dragon has already hatched for someone. If you remember in eldest when Eragon goes with Glaedr to the place where the dragons used to live he says that there was an egg fragment and it was green he doesnt mention any other Fragments. I also think its Vanir because Oromis says he thinks Eragon would do well to practice with another student, and I think the Elves know of it but wont say. Because really how much help is a new hatchling going to do. I also think that Roran will be King because he is King Palancars heir, the elves did say that the blood of king palancar still ran through palancar valley. Just my opinions.


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I would agree with you, but why hide it from Eragon. Plus Murtagh would have told Eragon that the green egg was stolen.

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Yeah that is exactly and there would be no need to hide a new dragon from Eragon and there wouldn't really be any places for it to hide. The fragment was probably just a foreshadow to the egg is green not that it is already hatched. Roran isn't really an heirs because then Eragon would be an heir too and no one wants a rider to rule again. If it was Vanir he would have bragged and he would have been a lot stronger.

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Your right, Vanir would be stronger. Plus, Oromis would have told Eragon so Eragon could finish their training after they died.

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usually you become king on the mans side of the family as in if a brother and sister were born the brother and his children would be the first to the throne, and also eragon said he didnt want it, and Roran is a strong and good leader and would make a good king. I really dont see arya being the next dragon rider since she is already so important to eragon.


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