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Hey I was reading online and i came across a rumor about angela being one of the grey folk. Comments.......

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Angela admits to being human in Brisingr.

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are you the only one who reads my theorys

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It usually takes two or three days for someone else to come on who cares enough to post. The fact I am on is just coincidence.

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ok so back on topic but does angela lie alot and brom never really reaveald his secrets and I have noticed brom and angela are kind of alike. Bith are kinda silent the dont talk that much and they both dont reveal alot about themself.

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I think that it is highly unlikely that Angela is one of the Grey Folk. She is a lot older and craftier than she appears, but would also mean she would be one of the most powerful people in Alagaesia. I do however think that there is something very important that she is hiding because Oromis states that he remembers her visiting Ellesmera and humans aren't allowed there.

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Humans aren't allowed there? I thought that the usually weren't given permission to enter.

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What do you mean by that?

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I just thought that humans weren't usually given permission to enter.

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They aren't which means that Angela would have to be special in some way but I highly doubt she is the Grey Folk.

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Maybe, as people have said before, she was once a dragon rider.

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I don't think she is though. There would be no point to hide herself if she was with the Varden other than her not wanting to be looked upon as a leader and stuff. She could have helped Eragon awhile ago if she was.

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What do you think she is then?

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I think she is just a very powerful person. As she said, she likes being places where things happen.

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But she's not just a human.

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She could be. Magic does a lot of things no one can explain. And we know that she does know magic if not a lot.

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A common human can't know that much about magic, the AL, and have dragon knuckle bones.

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And as I have said before, she isn't common.

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I think she's human but she is special, humans dont naturally live that long and Tenga knew her and he's exeptional too. I think she got the Dragon bones in a very nasty way and maybe the dragons prolonged her life until she could make peace with what she did.. I dunno i love making up theroies


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She could have taken the dragon bones from one of the forsworn's dead dragons.

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She could have taken the dragon bones from one of the forsworn's dead dragons.



I thought of that too. or she went to wherever there burial grounds are to get them. I know she's human she says so quite a few times but humans dont live as long as she does. But solembum talks to her and she even says he doesnt talk with anyone unless they are special


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Do you think that they were actually buried?

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The Forsworn dragons would not have been unless Galby did it but I doubt it.

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This is a crazy idea, but maybe she is an elf, but she changed her appearance like Arya did when she went to find Eragon.

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Even though that is a good theory it isn't very likely. She can't be strong enough or have enough power to sustain the spell or keep others from not noticing the magic from being used for her entire life.

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I know it's not possible.

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maybe she has an elven ancestor.


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gomenesigh wrote:
Even though that is a good theory it isn't very likely. She can't be strong enough or have enough power to sustain the spell or keep others from not noticing the magic from being used for her entire life.


no i think that basicly there are two types of magic one is like what eragon would use to make a rock float it would need energy the whole time it lasts, and two is like what eragon would use to break the rock, once it's broken it doesn't need to getting more energy cause it's already done. i think the spell we are talking about is number two.

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she's a witch not a sorceress. as brom explained she takes her power from her potions and is not very powerful with magic as she said. i don't think she has enough power to change her appearance. but she may be just a hybrid :D


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yeah

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so is his sister half elf? that doesn't help us because in the real world there are only humans.


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lol :lol:

no i don't think he would make his sister a freak in the book. i might though... :-k

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:lol: i might too. but i think she's just human or she has some elven blood in her veins. if she is just human she lives this long because of her potions, as she said.


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yeah both are likely :)

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Even so she isn't just some ordinary human. She has been to elven cities and from what we have read only dragon riders were allowed there along with very very special people. She also managed to somehow steal a great weapon from the dwarfs so I bet there is something new and or weird we find out about her.

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getting that weapon isn't important, she got it in a riddles contest it's not a big deal

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she was tenga's apprentice(a powerful magician), went to the elven cities, is friends with arya, is very old, a werecat spends its time with her, beat the dwarves' priests on a riddle game. is anything else special about her? maybe we can figure out more about her if we put everything extraordinary about her, together.


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What do you think Tenga is? That might help.

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I think he is just some crazy guy.... Maybe something bad happened to him that made him like how he is now. He is obviously powerful though to get all those scrolls that Eragon said were important.

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maybe he is just a powerful and very old magician. maybe he was already old when he took angela as his apprentice. maybe he has an elven ancestor, too. maybe that's why he and angela live so long. not immortals but like the Numenoriens from LOTR. half elf, half human. CP did take a lot from Tolkein, maybe he took this, too


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Angela isn't his offspring though, if he inherited long life, Angela wouldn't.

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i didn't say they were related, just that they both had elven ancestors. did you read LOTR? This guy fell in love with an elf. they had 2 children. one of them chose a mortal life, but he lived longer than normal humans, he lived a few hundred years. and so did his children. they lived on an island called Numenor. anyway the other half breed chose an immortal life and so were created the half elves. maybe CP didn't take all from LOTR but he could have taken the part that the children of elf and human would live more than normal humans.


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It isn't very likely that they both or either one of them had elven ancestors. If they did they would be more remembered.

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why would they? and just cause they're part elf doesn't mean that eragon should know about it.

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the Numenoriens were able to use some kind of magic and they were powerfull. i think it was something to be ashamed, among the elves, to take a human mate. maybe they didn't tell anyone about it. there must have been some human-elf couples. oromis said it was rare, but it did happen.


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It is possible for one of them to be half elf.

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Why would you think they are? You never explain your ideas.

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Okay, I'll explain. It could explain Tenga's ability to use magic. It could explain Angela's age and why she went to Ellesmera.

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it's just a theory to explain her age. do you have any better ones gomenesigh?


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Well she is very powerful with all kinds of potions. I'm sure that is where she gets it.

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so she makes a potion that keeps her from aging?

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so she makes a potion that keeps her from aging?


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I doubt it ; ) . It just doesn't sounds like her to me. This way she would disturb the natural cycle of the life and blah-blah ...

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yea she said she is that younglooking because she eats her own herbs. but what herbs can she find all over alagaesia that others do not.


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Its not necessarily just different herbs no one has ever used before. She makes potions and other things using the herbs. She could have just found combinations no one else has.

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well she is a witch and witches take their power from potion but it seems unlikely that no one in alagaesia never tried every herb. there are a lot of people, they should have found something troughout the ages.


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And how do you know that Angela didn't? She obviously knows more than typical people. Maybe more than some elves.

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It doesn't make any sense that plants make her live longer, none at all.

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Well it obviously does because in the books plants can kill people and plants can make someone look extremely younger and plants can help restore one's health so in this fiction book plants can make someone live longer.

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i don't know. why haven't human kings eatrn herbs to live longer? i'm sure there were a lot of human king afraid of death. and they had the means to buy the herbs.


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The only other king talked about in the book is King Palancar and he was murdered along with the other members of his family and I don't think they would have eaten or drunken things given to me by other people if I was a ruler.

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but the book isn't about you and there were tons of other kings

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Where in my post did I say the book was about me? Nowhere. I was giving an example and no, no other king was talked about besides King Palancar and his family, besides Orrin's family.

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so you have nothing else to back up your idea.

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For reasons I have already said is what I have to back up my idea.

Stop talking to me. I am not going to have a discussion with who is constantly rude to me. Leave me alone.

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i have the right to poist in whichever topic i want and you have a choice to post and read.

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you 2 are funny.

there were other human kings, they were just not mentioned. who do you think ruled the Bloodring kingdom?(or however it was called)


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it was funny ? :shock:

yeah here were tons of unmentioned kings probally :)

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You do not have the right to be rude to whoever you choose. If you can't be respectful then don't post. No one wants to see it.

Angela deals with herbs and potions so that is the most likely way she stayed so young. If she were part elf she would have elf characteristics and she is not strong enough to keep something going for her entire life to change her appearance. Galbatorix ruled that kingdom.

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nor do you have that right and it's because of you being rude to me even when i tried to end this that i am rude.

once she changed how she looks it wouldn't require more energy to sustain the spell

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What do you think ruben? I will gladly talk to you about this. Elves would never change their appearance to that of a human and even if they did they would still have certain elf qualities that Angela does not possess.

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she doesn't have to have elf caracteristics. abd galby rules it now. before it was ruled by human kings. as i sad before, read eldest again. actually only oromis's lesons. there is a lot of information there that i'm too lazy to repeat.


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And again they mention no other kings besides the Palancar family and Galby. I have read the books several times. I know what goes on but again this is off topic.

She doesn't have to but it would be very unlikely that she wouldn't retain them.

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gomenesigh wrote:
What do you think ruben? I will gladly talk to you about this. Elves would never change their appearance to that of a human and even if they did they would still have certain elf qualities that Angela does not possess.



let's take LOTR again. the numenoriens did not have elf qualities nor appearance.

in Brisingr orrin said he could trace back his genealogy till Palancar. all of his ancestors being kings. there are others that know as much as she does about plants, others that could sell what they know on a small treasure.


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And like I said, there are no other kings mentioned besides Orrin's family and Palancar's. The people who really go in depth with stuff like that are elves and if other people knew about it then it would have been in the books and if she was as important as being part elf Oromis would have remembered more about her.

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ruben-elda wrote:
gomenesigh wrote:
What do you think ruben? I will gladly talk to you about this. Elves would never change their appearance to that of a human and even if they did they would still have certain elf qualities that Angela does not possess.



let's take LOTR again. the numenoriens did not have elf qualities nor appearance.

in Brisingr orrin said he could trace back his genealogy till Palancar. all of his ancestors being kings. there are others that know as much as she does about plants, others that could sell what they know on a small treasure.


I thought the Numenorians were given the choice to be an elf or mortal.

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at first only. the first half human half elf chose. he chose mortality and his brother chose immortality. the elf could choose mortality whenever he wanted but the human couldn't.

and the Bloodring Kingdom was a human kingdom ruled by a human king.


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I'm going to start a LOTR topic.

So anyway, do you think it's possible that Angela is part elf?

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well that's what i said. and to me, i think this is the most probable theory.


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It's probably either that, or one of the Grey Folk.

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there is no way she is one of the grey folk. when eragon told her he is going to undo his curse on elva she said she didn't know such a thing is possible. the grey folk tied the AL to magic so they should know everything about magic and the language and how to do or undo things that involved their own language.


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She could of been lying.

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why would she lie? here is the text: "When she finally paused for breath, he said, “You’re quite right, and I’m going to try to remove the spell once the battle is decided.”
Angela blinked three times, one right after the other, and her mouth remained open for a moment in a small “O” before she clamped it shut. With a glare of suspicion, she asked, “You’re not saying that just to placate me, are you?”
“I would never.”
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Okay, I guess you're right. But that rules out the possibility that she is an elf too.

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well she could be part elf and as she was not educated by the elves, she doesn't know everything they know


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Wouldn't here Elven parent have told her anything?

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maybe she never met her elven parent. maybe an elf went to a human whorehouse and left a human pregnant... :D unlikely.


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ruben-elda wrote:
maybe she never met her elven parent. maybe an elf went to a human whorehouse and left a human pregnant... :D unlikely.


Make that VERY unlikely.

Ooohh, Angela. My specialty. So here goes.
Angela is a supposedly human herbalist. She lived in teirm with the werecat Solembum. This we all know.
As for the finer details, Angela has no known past other than that she has been to Ellesmeera and was trained by Tenga, who now lives in an Elvish outpost that was abandoned from before the Dragonriders came to be (you can look this up to verify it and try to prove me wrong; it's right and my book is 500 miles away too). Tenga is a powerful spellcaster will many compendiums. Eragon meets him, and when he meets up with Angela later on and mentions him, she seems to be shocked.
Why, though? Could they have a fued? This is my first point- Why is she so surprosed? Why did she seem to think he was dead? Maybe She attempted to kill him at some point, then, thanks to Eragon, discovered she failed.
Angela's remembered appearance in Ellesmeera? Maybe it was a different Angela, as unlikely as that sounds. Maybe it was the same Angela. But here you go: Angela could have been an ambassador for the Varden at some point. Nothing ever said she wasn't. And Brom seems to know her, although he hides this fact (I'd quote text here, but as I mentioned before, my books are 500 miles away right now.). Brom and Angela may have had a fued in the past, because he mentions that Eragon should heed Solembumer's advice. He was a Rider, so maybe Angela was once an ambassador for the Riders. That could explain her appearance in Ellesmeera. Or perhaps she had a friend in Ellesmeera. That could explain it.
As for Angela being one of the Grey Folk, they were all killed off after other races came to Alagaesia. Or were they? No hard evidence was ever found. Nor do I believe the book mentioned how old the Grey Folk got to be. It only says they were the first race in Alagaesia. PERHAPS THEY FLED ALAGAESIA? This is actually very plausible, and by default, it's just as plausible that some could have come back. Also, the book never described the appearance of the Grey Folk. So what ever said they were not a humanlike race? Or if they weren't, their mastery of the Ancient Language and Gramarye could have allowed them to manipulate themselves so they looked human. Only they ever fully controlled the Ancient Language and it's power. So who knew the extent of their abilities?
Just a few basic facts taken right out of the book. I enjoy this topic: Angela, along with Solembum, Rhunon, Oromis, and Glaedr, had the most mysterious beginnings of nearly any character in the entire series. This makes their actions more unpredictable than anyone else, thus leading to endless speculation on our part.

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I should probably verify this, but I'm pretty sure that Oromis said it was unsure what happened to the Grey Folk. I think that one possible explanation he offered was that they had "taken mates among the younger races," meaning, I guess, that they and their offspring had "assimilated" (is that the proper word?) into the othr cultures. If that IS true, then Angela would probably be part Grey folk, or maybe a descendent of them. Above, someone made the point that if Angela was one of the Grey folk, she would know everything about magic, but she might not have been raised by her parents, she might be an orphan or something.
Does Angela even use magic? She speaks the ancient language, but remember in Eragon, when he comes around after Durza's attack, Angela says something about her magic being different from his and Arya's. She's a witch, and I think the difference is that she uses potions and things to do stuff, whereas a magician uses just magic. I think if she were one of the Grey folk, she would use magic.

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New theory:

Perhaps Angela is half-werecat. Solembum and Angela are inseparable. Perhaps they were a couple at some point? And Solembum was exiled, and Angela, out of loyaltyt went with him....

Just a sudden thought...

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