it is possible that Selena had an affair with Brom because there is a link between them and Selena left because morzan would hate to have a child not of his own. That would be why brom stayed in cavahall and explains his love he had for a women. This also explains why Eragon and Murtagh are so alike cos they have the same moher. Angela knows some secrets about Selana cos she read her fortune as well.

I don't think so. Eragon and Murtagh are alike because they have the same mother and father, not just the same mother. Plus Brom stayed in Carvahall because he was hiding from the Empire, and Selena left to have Eragon because she saw what Morzan did to Murtagh, and didn't want him brought up like that. I guess it's still possible though...

u like starting arguments dont u firetongue u start loads with me

anyway my theory still holds out

lol Not arguments, it's just my opinion.

oh ok then soz

i tink i would agree.....it is very possible that brom is hhis father and cp would just love 2 throw sumthing like that at us now wouldnt he?

everyone thinks that and it fits in [/list]

Not everyone thinks that, and anyway, he would have to change the writing on Brom's tomb if he was his father.

eragon wrote

Here lies Brom
Who was a dragon rider
and like a father
to me
may his name live on in glory

Brom is Eragons father IMO. I've already given numerous reasons on this site that backs up this theory. One of which is Blagden's three riddles.

Here is an example: Son alike Father, both as blind as bats.
This states that Eragon like Brom is blind to the betrayls of those close to them(Murtagh and Morzan). Blagden was not talking about Morzan as he has never met him before and Morzan was never blind he knew what he was doing. Brom just couldn't see the evil in his best friend. Eragon just like Brom couldn't see the evil in the one who had become his best friend and then turns out to be his half-brother.

The only evidence that supports Morzan being his father is Murtagh stating it in the AL. Now you can say you can't lie in the AL, BUT you can state something that you belive to be true even if it isn't. Murtagh knew they shared the same father so why shouldn't they share the same father. Even Galbatorix thinks this is true.

Plus, why would Brom go live in the same village as his enemy who would never have contact with the egg as far as he knew. He risked his life doing this. Only a loving father who would want to be near his son to watch him grow up, would risk his life like that.

Hmm, its possible. and because Brom was also a dragon rider. I think. But didn't Selena come to Carvahall already with child? Unless Brom had an affair but ran to Carvahall eariler....

I seriosly doubt it. Maybe a Step Father but definetly not a real father.

Selena came to Carvahall a year before Brom arrived. During the time she came and gave birth to Eragon, Brom was making the frantic search for the egg. She could have told him before the search started in their last encounter she was with his child and was taking him to live with her brother in a area that the Empire had little use for. As I said before their is no evidence supporting Morzan is the father.

their is also no evidence that brom is his father. their are many clues to eragons real father but the tight twist to the story would be that brom is the father. ill ponder about it for awihle.

TWIST!?!?!?! There is only ONE line syaing Morzan is Eragon's father. Murtagh says in the AL, but all he knows is that they have the same mother so he ASSUMES they have the same father. Therefore he speaks it in the AL beliving it to be true. This was the whole reason for Eragon's fictional story he spoke in the AL during the Elven ceremony. All of the Blagden Riddles and everything Oromis and the similarities in their dragons point out Brom as the father.

i think it is possible that brom is eragon's father. he was alway looking out for eragon, and i don't think it was just because the varden told him to.

its impossible because angela's prophcy said that eragon will be betrayed by someone in his

family meaning Murtach also meanin that murtach is eragons brother and that Morzorn is eragons

father

anything can be possible

Yes, but if Selena was mother to both, then they would still be half brothers, therefore still family.

you got me stumped now

yeah, well say Selena had murtagh with morzan, then ran off and had eragon with Brom. Eragon and murtagh would have the same mother but different fathers, so they are still family.

that is true

now I just wait till the third book comes out.

This is just my opinion among thousands of others. This is from Eragon. It's part of a conversation between Brom and Eragon...

" Not quite," admitted Brom." They maitain that they don't , and in a way it's true, but they have perfected the art of saying one thing and meaning another. You never know exactly what their intent is, or if you have fathomed it correctly. Many times they only reveal part of the truth and withhold the rest. It takes a refined and subtle mind to deal with their culture."

no because Murtagh said in the ancient language that Seleana is their mother and morzan is their father and you can't lie in the ancient language

Well, he thought that Selena was their mother, and morzan their father, so it made it true for him, so he could say it. As it says in eldest, there are ways of saying one thing and meaning another, so you can really bend the rules.

if cp dies before he writes the last book I will freak no I will kill someone

"The Twins figured out the connection while they were digging around in your head. Galbatorix was quite interested to learn that particular piece of information." [i] Eldest 652[/i]

What I conclude is that the Twins must have known that Selena was Morzan's mate, so they made the connection when they probed Eragon's mind in order to allow him into Farthen Dûr.
"He paid keen attention to many things Eragon considered irrelevant, such as his mother , Selena, and seemed to linger on purpose so as to prolong the suffering." Eragon 383

I assume that when the Twins informed Galbatorix, just as well they all assumed Eragon was Morzan's son. So to the four of them it was true therefore Murtagh was able to say it in the Ancient Language.

I kinda think so, but then again Morzan could be Eragons "father"

LOL!!! Well, I am still hoping he isn't. *crosses all her fingers* I just cannot, no matter how much I try, picture Morzan as Eragon's father. The image refuses to take shape in my mind!

im pretty sure it says somewhere that Morzan is ERagon's father also

I don't think it is true. It is possible, as he tells Eragon that he knew his mother well enough to miss her. Could she have possibly turned to the Varden, where Brom was once leader, after seeing the violence and deceit practiced by Morzan. Just a suggestion.

personally i also see brom as being to old to be his father Eragon is a teenager and Brom could practically be his grandpa

However, could Brom have had an affair with Selena at the Varden, then she ran back to her family home, maybe after getting sick.

that seems kina unlikely, but it could have happened

I'm sure that Morzan would have made her swear in the AL not to go back to Brom when they got together. But I continue to hope that Brom was his father with this reasoning. She could have got pregnant with Eragon before Morzan made her swear that. Or he could not have known and Selena and Brom could have met up somewhere and... Since we have members under thirteen I'll just say this. They met up somewhere and boom. You have Eragon.

still its kinda sick cuz brom is really old

Dude, this is 2006. Get used to it. Happens all the time. There was this lady who was , according to my brother, " super hot " she married this old guy. She might have done it just to get at his money ( he was a millionaire ), but it's still the same thing.

im used to it but that doesnt make it not sick

I know, when Danny told me about it I wanted to puke. I wanted to puke worse when I saw it on the news, she was like 24 and the old guy was like, 90. gag

lets try and stay on subject here

I dont remeber what page, but it was stated when Blagden was talking to Eragon. He said something about One is definatly of two, or something loike that. The whole saying proves Brom's Eragons father. Go find it and read it.

That's one of my crazy theories. I think Selena somehow was responsible of helping Brom and the Varden to rescue the first egg. I just think it may have been her way of getting back at Morzan? You know the saying: "What's better than getting mad? GETTING EVEN!!"

if Morzan wasnt Eragons father also why would Murtagh have said "anyway Zar'roc belongs to Morzans eldest son, not his youngest" or something to that effect

Because he thought that Eragon was Morzan's youngest son -he might not be.

you would think Murtagh would have heard his father say something about him having another son, thats not just something you make up

I thought the point of Selena running away was that Morzan didn't know about his other son?

what are you trying to say

I was trying to point out that morzan didn't know he had another son

Because that was what Murtagh was led to believe. Remember, The Twins and Galbatorix just added 2 + 2 with the information available.

it would be fantastic but i don't think it's very possible

*SITTING WITH LEGS CROSSED HANDS ON KNEES AND CHANTS*) I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE!!

Eragon IS Brom's son and its clear to see that. Lets see, it is called the inheritance triology, its clear that Eragon will have his fathers sword just like murtagh got from his'. Now, father and dragon with the same name and dragon colour for Brom and Eragon and the same happens with murtagh and morzan, not about the name, but the dragons were both red. Eragon and Murtagh are just the reencarnation of an epic old fight between Brom and Morzan.

Also, that why Saphira always trusts in Brom everytime Eragon ponders his actions, she knew the truth since the begining, is just waiting for the right time to reveal it, for sure in the begining of 3rd book... It couldnt be revealed on the 2nd book... Those would be huge changes in a small amoung of sheets.... CP is a smart guy, why else would we be wondering all these questions about Eragon's story all over the wolrd?

Yep, I believe it is true( after changing my mind...).

I do not think Saphira really trusted Brom until after they were attacked by the Urgals in Book 1. What makes me think this way? The fact that when Eragon killed the two Urgas in Yazuac, Saphira made the connection of Brom being a "magician." Check it out on page 140 of Eragon. I believe Saphira's trust was gained when she and Brom were "cleaning up the mess" Eragon had done when he attacked the Urgals. He had remained for two days recuperating from his bout of magic, while Saphira and Brom were out hunting the Urgals. This is when I believe Brom exchanged confidences with Saphira. As to when she will reveal what are these confidences, apparently the moment has yet to come in the last book. Saphira

i think broms more likely eragons great great great grandfathers grandfather. because brom was friend wit mozen when he was young.

i still think that morzan is eragons father. murtagh told him and stuff during the fite in the book eldest. i dont see why he would be lying. cuz the story murtagh told to eragon does make sense and stuff

Just think though, Murtagh said the twins found the connection between Eragon and Murtagh. They are brothers and their father is Morzan, unless CP turns it around that is.

hmm...how do we know twin is telling truth

why would they lie?

i thought this could be possible.

everyone, look at the fourth page of the announcement post in the Book 3 forum. there is all of my findings on this subject, though it takes a leap of thought, because you must infer that Brom meant a bit more than he said.

never never never no and no

maybe, but just maybe, brom could be...

no -.-

hmm...nah! he couldn't be!

yeah he is. think about it a minute. and stop telling yourself that he isn't. have an open mind for a minute. here's the evidence:

Brom said, “She was full of dignity and pride, like Garrow. Ultimately it was her downfall, but it was one of her greatest gifts nevertheless. . . . She always helped the poor and the less fortunate, no matter what her situation.” He answered to Eragon’s question, “You knew her well?”, “Well enough to miss her when she was gone.” Also, Blagden said “Son and father alike, both as blind as bats” after being asked what his first prophesy ment. This denotes that Blagden had met Eragon's father. Morzan had never gone to Ellesmera, though Brom had. On pg. 435 of Eragon, Angela saya, "He (Brom) loved a woman, but it was his affection which was her undoing."

Selena finally realizes thta Morzan is using her. She wants revenge. She may have been helping the Varden when she meets Brom, or the other way around: she meets Brom, falls in love with him, and helps the Varden by helping Brom get the egg, as well as take down others of the Wyrdfell. She was carrying Brom's child and Morzan found out OR she fears that he will do the same to this baby as Murtagh. She runs away went to Carvahall. Then Galby sends a legion after her and they go into the spine. somehow they all die and she is barely living. She goes back to Carvahall and has Eragon. She then runs off again, and either goes back to the castle directly, Morzan dead, or he's alive and he captures her. If he is alive, he kills Selena, then the enraged Brom goes and kills Morzan. If Morzan is dead, then Selena probably had a part in it. Then Brom goes to Carvahall to keep an eye on his son. Garrow kinda blames him for the death of Selena, so he moves from town. Either that, or to protect him: if Brom is found, then Eragon will be safe.

...!OH, i see! i was "as blind as a bat"!

lol but doesnt that mean that he can see the future since brom was a seer?

well he has already done it....maybe he'll have another 1 about the fight...?

it makes sense....im not sure tho

there is nowhere in Eragon that says that Brom is a "seer".

that is one great point! Where does it say that?

dude there is no way brom is eragons father. idk y but i bet u nething that nvr happens in the 3rd book. i dont have ne reasons 2 back in up, but he isnt his father.

...heh, you got no reasons...you got guts,kid...

Yes, he is.

brom is eragons dad an dont argue with me because he is..

I completly agree and think maybe that the truth will be revealed in the beggining of book 3 this is partly beacause if the knowledge that eragon was a child of Morzan then the varden and elves might not entirely trust him. So by Brom being the father you have someone that is respected by both Varden and Elves and their will be no doubts about Eragon that might cloud his or anyone else's judgement.

I think Brom is Eragon's father too

Who doesn't think so? It's so obvious. Maybe Brom is blind. Has he ever reacted to something he hasn't heard or heard about?

i dont think he is. cause if he is, he wouldnt have hidden the info when he was about to die, would he

i mean brom told eragon he was a dragon rider when he was about to die right so why not tell eragon then that he was his father but a thought is a thought nothing more.

well saphira told eragon that brom told her things that she couldn't tell eragon unless it was needed.

I believe so, because Brom and Eragon are more alike than Morzan and Eragon.

If the rules of genetics applied I would laugh at you.

Why do the rules of genetics do not apply?

quoting myself is fun.

those are words of wisdom

i think brom isnt eragons father coz u know when murtagh told eragon that morzan was their father, he repeated it in the ancient language. the ancient language doesnt lie so i think morzan should be eragon's father.

It would be really stupid if brom was eragons father

I agree. brom cant be eragon's father.

dragon fan, blagden, and orikthemighty are the only ppl who dont think brom is his father. so too bad for you guys your wrong.

proof: saphira is same color dragon and name (murtagh has red dragon and morzan's dragon was rumored to be named thorn), he was in carvahall watching out for his son (he came near the time of his birth), other crap i dont feel like listing

oh yeah, so? murtagh said it in the ancient language and the ancient language doesnt lie so there's proof better than urs

i hope morzan is not his eragons father because that would be bad.

I don't see any proof here. And you can add my name to the list of people who don't believe it.

Sorry, but that isn't proof. Prove that Brom wasn't just watching over Eragon. Brom could've found out that Salena was pregnant with MORZAN'S 2nd child and he could've been watching over Eragon as a father-LIKE figure.

And there could be some other meaning to Saphira having the same color and name.

I'm sorry to state this- but you don't know if you're right anymore than we do. (We meaning those who believe that Brom is NOT Eragon's father).

I could go either way has to who is Eragon's father. First of all, in the first book, Angela says," He loved a women, but it was his affection that was her undoing." What that quote says to me is that Brom loved a woman but she didn't love him back. So that pretty much states that Brom couldn't be Eragon's father because usually you have to love someone to have a child with them. But Blagden's quote,"Both father and son alike, both as blind as bats." could say that Brom was his father or Morzan was. Morzan could have been as blind as a bat to not have seen Galbatorix's madness before he joined him. And the whole "Murtagh said it in the AL" thing could go both ways too. So I don't know, Brom or Morzan could be Eragon's father the way I see it.

In my opinion theres an awesome chance of brom being eragon's father. it's not Morzan for one thing and why would Brom hide out in carvahall if not to watch over his dear son? I love this theory and hope it is true.

*Sighs* WHY would Brom reveal he was a Dragon Rider INSTEAD of him being Eragon's father? I mean, on his deathbed, wouldn't Eragon be better off learning that Brom was his father instead of Brom being a Dragon Rider?

What point would there be if Brom was instead of Morzan? What would Brom being Eragon's father cause in the third book that'll be worth noting?

Nothing... It'll just be boring.

it might shock eragon so much that it would distract him from his task especially since brom was dying.

I doubt that very strongly. It probably would've encouraged Eragon if Brom told him- but shocking him /that/ badly? I don't think so.