Hey everybody. I just thought this would be a good forum, seeing as how Inheritance is based off of this series. I just finished reading The White Dragon and I am totally in love with Pern. I'm just about to start reading Moreta: Dragonlady of Pern. So, just come here to talk about the series, if you have read it.

Yep, another series I have lots of fun think about and playing around with. ^^ My big problem with them is that the dragons have, like, no personality whatsoever. -_- Just because they have poor memory doesn't mean they have all the emotional diversity of cardboard.
Well, that, and the main characters tend towards Mary-Sues and the books focus nigh-obsessively on Gold and Bronzeriders.

oh, i agree with you whole-heartedly. I wish they could go a little more in depth to the blue and green Riders. as for the dragons having no personality, i have to disagree with you. i think the dragons are fascinating and are just as complex as any of us.

are you going to respond or something?

Oh, blah, lost the thread or something.
Eh, still disagree on the personality thing. It's been a while since I read the books, but nothing ever stuck out to me about any of the dragons, except for Deborah's Morath (I think?) in Dragonseye. I liked her. ^_^ (Possibly Ruth as well, but it's been so long since I read the White Dragon, I barely remember any of it.) Dragonseye was definitely my favorite book in the series since it did focus more on the lower-ranked riders and dragons. In fact, I think Morath probably had more lines in the book than any other dragon of Anne Mcaffrey's I've seen.
But the other dragons I read just seemed like, I don't know, tokens to make the rider more important, just...there. I can't remember a significant or memorable comment from dragons other than Morath and Ruth.
And, I hope you don't mind a little plugging, but if anyone's interested, I have some DRoP fanfics on Fanfiction-dot-net. http://www.fanfiction.net/u/172951/Kitsuneko

Out of all the dragons I have read in the series so far, the only one who I didn't enjoy was Mnementh. He was too... blah. And way too intellectual for me. But otherwise, I think the dragons are quite unique to each of their Riders. Ramoth... wow. She has quite the temper, doesn't she?

I'm still stuck on how to pronounce his frickin' name.
And, I don't know, maybe they seem more like caricatures to me: All gold dragons act arrogant and short-tempered, browns calm and dependable, and greens and blues are cheery and flirtatious, and they're just not...developed beyond that. :/
Do you prefer the older books or the newer ones with Todd?

I loved these books growing up. I happen to own all of the older ones.
As far as each of the Dragons being type cast according to their colors, You see that in human social orders as well.
I liked to beleive that a dragon developes it's colors in the egg as it developes it's personality... kind of natures way of sortin them out... Of course there are dragons who break out of the type casting. That is what makes them such great pivitol characters. The rest are just there to enhance the background so to speak. There are plenty of dragons made available that could be fleshed out later on in later books. It was part of Anne McCaffrey's genius.

I actually haven't read beyond The White Dragon. I've started Moreta, but I'm barely past the part where that one runner died mysteriously in the race at Ruatha. It's pretty engaging so far, just haven't gotten that far in yet.

oh my gosh, Orlith is FUNNY! Now I definitely like her more than Ramoth.

I really enjoyed The White Dragon. Ruth is an incredible dragon. Plus, it's my favorite because out of all the books I have read so far, that one focuses the most on the bond between dragon and Rider. It's in The White Dragon that the reader truly understands how close they are. Obviously, it's not as profound as the bond between Eragon and Saphira , who love each other as if they were brother and sister. But, it's still a close bond.

I've only read Moreta: Dragonlady of Pern. From that book I think it could a good series. I have yet to find more of the series though. I like the way the dragons can have deep emotions for the riders and visa versa. Its a good idea of the other planet circling Pern although i didn't understand some of it. I suppose that understanding comes from reading the other books. But anyway a good book none-the-less.

Ive just finished the White Dragon and I love it lol!
I like it because you see more of the dragons in this i think with them all down at the southern continent. I didn't like the beginning though I thought it took awhile to get into but that could just be me.

Im looking for moreta:dragonlady of pern but i can't find it!

you could get them at any Barnes & Noble bookstore. They are relatively easy to find. Anne McCaffrey has written quite a few books.

barnes and noble??

ya, you know? the big bookstore chain that's around the world, basically.

ahhhhh! the next book comes out this month! I'm so excited! It believe it's called Dragon Hold or Dragon Harper. something like that.

I'm reading the books in publishing order. I was told it was best if you read them in the order they were published, not in chronological order. So, I read Dragonflight, Dragonquest, and The White Dragon first. Which dragons do you like the best? I'm really starting to fall in love with Orlith, she's such a fascinating dragon. Ramoth was great too, but man, did she have a temper. Actually, now that I think of it, the only dragon I haven't really liked is Mnementh, and not just because his name is impossible to pronounce. He was too... intellectual and bland for me.

I've taken huge steps in Moreta in the past few days. I'm finally past the part where Capiam finds a cure and... MORETA IS GETTING BETTER!!! Now I love Orlith more than ever. lol

Please don't be a spoiler, Firetongue. I want to enjoy it.

Which dragons do you like the best? I really like Ruth and Orlith. Ramoth is great too.

[color=00a9FF]TAN TAN TAN TAN!!! Won't spoil it for you but I agree with Firetongue!!![/color]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! DAM YOU, TELGAR! YOU MADE MORETA AND HOLTH DIE!!!!!!

could someone give me the names of the first three.

Dragonflight, Dragonquest, The White Dragon in publishing order (the preferred order).

Dragonsdawn, The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall, Moreta: Dragonlady of Pern for chronological order.

well to late my dads already picked up dragon flight and dragon quest. cant wait!

You'll love them. And you'll looooooooooove Ramoth too! She's a great queen.

Oh, Ruth is my favorite also. But, Ramoth is still a great queen. Who do you think does better as queen: Ramoth or Orlith?

i 'm still on book 1 but i bought white dragon and have dragon quest and flight from library

at first I was kinda bored but now I like it.I'm later on in the book

I'll admit, they are kinda slow and the characters are difficult to remember who's who. To make it easy, the only characters you should really know for the first three books are Lessa and Ramoth, F'lar and Mnementh, F'nor and Canth, Jaxom and Ruth, and Master Robinton. I guess you could also have Lytol, but he's not quite as important as the others.

Heard of them, never read them though. I'm still trying to get DOP finished, along with the other 500 books I'm reading right now. lol

I only know who Robinton is. I just finished DragonFlight yesterday on a plane ride. I'm in california for christmas. So i've started dragon quest

cool, I like the series alot, but at first it's kinda confusing

I was too, but it gets easier later on in the first book but don't spoil anything for me cuz I'm readin the second one now

Oh, we won't ruin anything for you. And you're not the only one either. I was confused about it until about the middle of Dragonquest, then it became clear.

I bought that one but the other two I got from the library. I cant wait to read The White Dragon. Looks rely good

I got a new Anne McCaffrey book for Christmas this year. It's called Changelings. It's rather new, and it was written with Elizabeth Anne Scarborough. I can't wait to get started on it once I'm done with the 8 other books I'm reading right now.

ooh, I want to read "Black Horses for the King" Looks really good.

I've never heard of it. Is it an Anne McCaffrey novel?

hm. I may want to take a look at that in the future.

the drgonriders of pern series r fantastic!! i have them all n have read tehm all atleast twice my fav in moreta dragonlady of pern!!!!

Moreta was fantastic, but I hate it that she DIED.

i kno she was a fantastic charcter!!!!!!!

She's an amazing character. I'm currently in the middle of Dragonsdawn, and loving it. It's so fascinating how the dragons were created in the first place. Not to mention... I'VE FIGURED OUT THE PATH OF THREADFALL! It's actually relatively simple. It falls in a southwesterly drift everytime, and, more importantly, I know the exact path of Thread as it falls across the planet. Here, I'll put my notes up:

First Fall- Lemos: Igen Weyr combating
Second Fall- Igen Hold, Ista Hold: Igen Weyr and Ista Weyr combating
Third Fall- Nabol, Ruatha: High Reaches Weyr and Fort Weyr combating
Fourth Fall- Fort Hold: Fort Weyr combating
Fifth Fall- Southern Boll: Fort Weyr combating
Sixth Fall- Tillek: High Reaches combating
Seventh Fall- Bitra, maybe Lemos and Benden Hold: Benden Weyr combating
Eighth Fall- Half Circle Sea Hold, Keroon, maybe Igen Hold and Crom: Benden Weyr and High Reaches Weyr combating
Ninth Fall- Nerat Hold, Telgar Hold, Cove Hold, Nabol Hold: Telgar Weyr, Ista Weyr, and Southern Weyr combating
Tenth Fall- High Reaches Hold, Ista Hold: High Reaches Weyr and Ista Weyr combating
Eleventh Fall- Ruatha, Fort Hold, Southern Hold: Fort Weyr and Southern Weyr combating

Now, Threadfall runs for 375 miles and is 50 miles wide. It proceeds south approximately 150 miles at the beginning of each new series, and the next leading edge for each series is separated to the ssouth by 525 miles and to the west by 275 miles. So there you have it. The Threadfall formula.

Can anybody confirm that, please? I would very much like to know if it's accurate or not.

Come on, guys. We had such a great topic here. Let's get it going again. Hey, has anyone read the new Pern novel by Todd yet? I'm really anxious to get to it. Does it occur during the 2nd Long Interval? I heard it was.

And my Thread theory, Annie. What about my Thread theory? Nobody has commented on it yet.

I don't know. I'm sure the McCaffrey's will figure something out.

I know we're more interested in the stuggles of the characters, but it's still pretty neat to look at, and know where Thread is falling and when.

Okay, I have to ask. Can anybody tell me the name of the book her son wrote? It's been forever since I posted in here... It's been forever since I read these books to... Lol, at one time I had the timeline of the books figured out, but I can't remember it... High school is no fun... And I'm about to be a junior... And it's almost 3 in the morning... I think I need to go to bed.

Anywho, if you can tell me the name, it would be much appreciated. Although you'll probably have to pm me, 'cause I hardly ever check this topic anymore.

OKAY, Ladies, pls don't curse me. What I am about to paste is LOOOOOOOOOONG, but it will give you all the information you both need!

ENJOY!!!

HUGS, ANNIE


SUGGESTED READING ORDERS OF BOOKS AND STORIES
IN ANNE MCCAFFREY’S PERN SERIES
Fans often ask for advice as to the order in which to read the books in the popular Dragonriders of Pern© series. Anne McCaffrey herself suggests you should read them in the order in which they were published. For most of the series written by Anne the chronological order is also the
publication order. But the Pern Series is the notable exception. For those of you who prefer to read
(or re-read) the Pern Series in chronological or story line order we are therefore including a second, chronological list. However, this list cannot give a pure chronological order because that is an impossibility – some of the books and stories take place during the same time period. For
example, a book like The Renegades of Pern spans a long period of Pern’s history in the run up to and during the Ninth Pass. As such, it runs parallel to several other books in the series.

1. Pern Books and Stories in order of Publication
 Dragonflight (1968)
The short stories “Weyr Search” and “Dragonrider” are incorporated in this book.
 Dragonquest (1971)
 Dragonsong (1976)
 Dragonsinger 1977)
 The Smallest Dragonboy, in: Get Off The Unicorn (1977)
 The White Dragon (1978)
The earlier publication “A Time When” (1975) is incorporated in this book.
 Dragondrums (1979)
 Moreta: Dragonlady Of Pern (1983)
 Nerilka’s Story (1984)
 Dragonsdawn (1988)
 The Impression, in: The Dragonlover’s Guide To Pern (1989)
 The Renegades Of Pern (1989)
 All The Weyrs Of Pern (1991)
 The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall (1993)
The earlier publications “Rescue Run” (1991) and “The Dolphin’s Bell” (1993) are incorporated in this book.
 The Girl Who Heard Dragons, in: The Girl Who Heard Dragons (1996)
 Dragonseye, published as Red Star Rising in the UK (1996)
 The Masterharper Of Pern (1998)
 Runner Of Pern, in: Legends (anthology edited by Robert Silverberg) (1999)
 The Skies of Pern (2001)
 A Gift of Dragons (2002) The short story “Ever the Twain” is incorporated in this book.
 Dragon’s Kin (with Todd McCaffrey) (2003)
 Beyond Between, in: Legends II (anthology edited by Robert Silverberg) (2004)
 Dragonsblood (by Todd McCaffrey) (2005)
 Dragon’s Fire (with Todd McCaffrey) (2006)

2. Pern Books and Stories in Chronological Order
 Story “Survey P.E.R.N.” in: The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall
 Dragonsdawn
 Story “The Dolphin’s Bell” in: The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall
 Story “The Ford Of red Hanrahan” in: The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall
 Story “The Second Weyr” in: The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall
 Story “Rescue Run” in: The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall
 Dragon’s Kin (with Todd McCaffrey)
 Dragon’s Fire (with Todd McCaffrey)
 Dragonsblood (by Todd McCaffrey)
 Dragonseye/Red Star Rising
 Moreta: Dragonlady of Pern
 Story: “Beyond Between” in: Legends II (anthology edited by Robert Silverberg)
 Nerika’s Story
 The Masterharper of Pern
 Story: “Runner Of Pern” in: Legends (anthology edited by Robert Silverberg)
 Dragonflight
 Dragonquest
 Dragonsong
 Dragonsinger
 Dragondrums
 Story: “The Impression” in: The Dragonlover’s Guide To Pern
 Story: “The Smallest Dragonboy” in: Get Off The Unicorn
 The White Dragon
 The Renegades of Pern
(actually covers the whole period from The Masterharper Of Pern to All The Weyrs Of Pern)
 Story: “The Girl Who Heard Dragons” in: The Girl Who Heard Dragons
 All The Weyrs Of Pern (overlap with next book)
 The Dolphins of Pern (overlap with previous book)
 The Skies of Pern
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READING ORDER OF BOOKS AND STORIES IN ANNE MCCAFFREY’ S
DRAGON RIDER OF PERN SERIES©
VERSION 1. 4 – JULY 20 06

Here is the official link for those who may be interested::
http://www.annemccaffrey.net/2006-Pern- ... -Order.pdf

Hmmm, I'm going to have to find a bookstore with all of these books in it... A lot of them I hadn't even heard of... I didn't think she had wrote that many already...

*sigh* Why do bookstores never carry the good books??? WHY????? *chokes a pillow in frustration*

*gives Annie a tissue, just in case* Awww, Annie, don't go crying about it now... Think of all the good she did, going between.

Wait. How could Moreta have any thoughts when she was between if it only takes three winks for dragon and Rider to freeze to death? That seem kinda... impossible, except for unimportant fleeting thoughts like "I never did the laundry today," or something.

If they're going someWHERE it only takes 3 winks. If they're going someWHEN it takes longer. Which is why going between time is so much more dangerous than the already dangerous, everday between places.

Remember, when Lessa and Ramoth went between to bring the Weyrs forward, she almost died, because she went back in time so far.

But Lessa and Ramoth also did it in one jump, not take in seperate intervals like you're supposed to do so the dragon can recuperate.

Oh, did you all notice that a second edition of the Dragonlover's Guide to Pern has been released? It's detailing life on Pern after AIVAS was introduced and Thread was destroyed. It's really very cool, but I'm only sticking with the first edition so I don't get any spoilers for how they manage to do it. And, with the aid of the Guide, I'm finally able to understand not only the complex relationship between dragon and Rider, and how big the dragons actually are, but I can confirm my Threadfall theory!

It's official. My threadfall theory is correct. I have gone over the charts countless times and did the scientific method on it, and my theory is correct. I just finished All the Weyrs of Pern and now doing First Fall.

What did you all think about how the engines were used? I thought it was very clever, using the engines of the Yokohama to blow the Red Star off its orbit.

I love these books. They are my absolute favorite. I own half of the series, and still working through it. I've read the original series, the ones that focus on Lessa, F'lar, Ramoth, Mnementh, Jaxom and those guys + I own all these as well. I've got to find time to read the rest now that I have a library card