They WERE real and they CAN be real again. Modern medicine can recreate any type of DNA. I do believe they did exist for a time, but were killed off. If someone had the time and patience they could create a dragon using the DNA of different creatures.

alright apparently u all havent seen the show on (i think) the discovery channel it was on again a couple of weeks ago where they DID find a younger dragon with other people that were trying to kill it and it was preserved in the ice along with the people. im sorry i cant remeber where exactly they found it

Really? So, what you are saying is that you want fire-breathing, fierce reptiles living on the Earth? Creatures that could destroy civilisation and cause destruction in how many other ways, until it is impossible for any other form of life to thrive?

Somehow I don't think dragons will be quite like Saphira from Eragon.

So, thankfully, dragons do not exist. if ever a hint of them did appear, I'd be raving to have the authorities hunt the dragon/s down and destroy them for the good of the world.



Let us hope that scientists never get as mad as that. Bad enough that they think they are discovering a way to time travel. (No, I am not joking, currently they are building a machine that could break down the tiniest and most obscure atoms and thus create a wormhole.)



I think that was fake. If they did discover a dragon, it would be international news.

So, as I'm sure I've already proved by my posts, I am very skeptical about the notion of dragons existing. Obviously they would be fierce and have the power to destroy the world in their being, and frankly, what was brewed in fantasy books should stay in fantasy books.

Anyway, lizards are close enough to a dragon, and for me, thats close enough.

Wow my old topic is still here. Dragons may verry well have existed. No evidence suggest otherwise.

No fossils or evidence has been found, though. And what is a dragon, anyways, a winged type of dinosaur, right?

Yeah. Pretty much.

Its mainly becuase back then they didnt have a ban on norcotic drugs. I base this on absolutely nothing.

TeeHee...
I'm Sure Tht Cave-Men Had Drugs
Wonder Wt Was Their Fave? Rofl!

I saw that on a documentary. The earliest civilised humans were coke heads. They shorted it through sea shells. They believed they were being possesed by spirits that way. All theis years later it still has pretty much the same effect.

Ah, something to argue about.
All cultures have legends about mythical creatures, dragons are just one of them mentioned. Many legends also have talking animals, spirits, sea serpents, etc, but have we proven any of them?
Why haven't we found any fossils of dragons, or even classified what a dragon is?

But people say they can prove it, and I have had instinces in my life where I do believe that God must have been behind it. We should probably drop God out of this though, that whole rules thing...

So then, how could one find a dragon fossil, if we do not even know what it is?

I have the feeling that we are never going to prove or disprove this. Humans, I mean.

*sigh* The thing is that even if the scientist classified it as a dragon skeleton, only a small percentage of the world would believe it. The reason; simple, dragons are mainly mentioned in fairytales, fables and myths. Though the mention of dragons is mainly in story, it does not mean they could not have existed; the cold hard truth is that at the rate the human race is developing any evidence could be destroyed through global warming, home development, oil and gas findings, and other things that the human race does every day. Now, for all the believers, there have been skeletal findings believed to be from dragons. Not to mention, they have found eggs and many other things. As per one specific finding, the baby dragon in a jar, there is a book I've read that is based on true accounts that happened in Europe I will get back with the name, but I can't remember at the present time. For those who don't believe, deny all of this but I can guarantee you it won't change the believers minds. Then again.... it is a persons own choice to believe in something.

I believe that dragons existed, as can be interpretted from my other posts, and nothing will ever make me think otherwise.

I take it you believe? *sigh* I know we destoy our world and half the human race doesn't even realize the impending doom. I mean sure some losses weren't due to us like, dinosuars..... or dragons even but you gotta admit that we messed up somewhere.

Considering the ruin we've already made, it might be inevitable.

I don't just believe that dragons Exist, I know. For several reasons one of which was this sight I found that completely supports all of my theories on dragons.

http://home.netcom.com/~leemarsh/moddrag1.html

I know dragons Exist spiritually because I can communicate with them and interact with them. I'm what's called a dragon whisperer. I can Talk to and physically interact with Spiritual dragons, and I do so on a regular basis. I've been talking with the same two for the past nine years almost, (She'll be turning nine next month). So I know for a fact that they exist.

And I know I'm not insane because others around me have seen and interacted with them. So they are there, and I know they will always will be. Their names may ring a bell to the RPers here, Zil'caron, and Silvera. i know it sounds crazy, but I've had others vouch that they are there, because I've questioned whether they were real or not, but after nine years of being together, it gets hard to deny.

Can anyone else here communicate with Spiritual Dragons? It's not a common ability, but I know four others who can at least.

Yes, but have other people actually seen the beings that they have created? I've met like I said at least four other people who have openly confronted me about them with out me even saying a word to them about them. If they were imaginary, that would not be possible would it? They even described them perfectly? I have no reason to make things like this up because I was relatively well known in high school. I've been studying dragons for a while. 14 years, and I always knew this kind of thing was indeed possible.

But I also know everyone has a right for their own opinions. That wasn't rude at all to be honest. You said what you felt in a respectful way. But my knowledge stands as is, I know they are there, because quite frankly I just got done talking with them, and nothing can ever change the fact that the do exist. I have too many people telling me what I could see. So, it's hard to go against that.

I hope that this didn't come off as rude, if it did I'll re-word it because I hate sounding rude.

Actually it would be very possible for them to hide. They could burrow in ice, stay underwater, all sorts of things.

I agree. Its a bit.....much. Farfetched. Not trying to be rude, but while I'm not sure that you're lying, I don't believe it. I mean, this sounds like Santa Clause. So no, I don't.

And how exactly do you "communicate" with these dragons?

Theoretically, by the Laws of Science, it isn't possible for these beings to exist. Also, if such a discovery was made it would quickly become international headlines.

No offence intended, man, I was just looking from my point-of-view.

I think it was an April Fools joke.

If it was, that was a rather amazing one. Had me going...
If not, my apologies.

On topic, I'll believe in dragons when I see one.

yeah, i don't either.....



of tabloids, maybe. but not actual newspapers. People would say they were crazy. and how can you control water with your mind? That too, i don't believe

hmmm dragon ain't real might have been but they ain't now in my opinion, *coughs* which is based off of the knowledge of the world*coughs*
Intresting bit of logic from y'all though.....

Oh it april fools ain't it??????
my bad lol

i belive in dragons. my mom is one when she wakes up lol! seriously, i saw small dragon in the sky. to me it lokked dark purple. how cool.

are you sure it wasn't a bird? I'd love for dragon's like Saphira to be real. Being a Rider would be one of the greatest things I can imagine. But I doubt it.

i totaly beleive in dragons. i think anything is possible.
Ex. people used to think that we would never be able to fly to the moon.
but we did

Anything is possible, but that is not that good of an example. We achieved landing on the moon because of amazing technological advances that led us into space. Sorry for trying to rain on your parade, I can't help being historically accurate

The way science is going, I won't be suprised if, in ten, twenty years time, scientists will be researching on how to genetically modify lizards to comply with the theory of dragons.

Although, let us hope scientists don't achieve that madness. As it is, science has already crossed the bounds, and gone too far.

i'm sure it was not a bird ans why can't dragons exist. look at the kumododragon

well put. The fact that something like dinosaurs existed makes it more likely, or rather, less unlikely, but that any are around now is pretty impossible. For me, the most likely proof is a Bible verse that alludes directly to a firebreathing creature. But more likely is that that is where medieval storytellers got the idea for a firebreather.



how can you be sure. Did you see it upclose? It was more likely to be a bat, as they share wing membranes and odd shaped heads.

well, maybe u r right. or there are dragons but rhey are small and ppl exagertetted (did i spell it correct?)

exaggerated. Had to use spell check.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for them to be real. But I doubt that even if they ever did, that they do now. Not on Earth, nor in any other Dimension.

A few allude to dinosaurs, and in one section, it even describes dragons. And Leviathans. I posted a bunch earlier, but got reprimanded....

Yes, but that still wouldn't prove or disprove the existance of dragons. The fire breathing creatures demonstrated in the Bible are most likely metaphors for a large, and terrible creature.

Hey, just on a side note, if anyone wants to discuss the Bible and its implications, feel free to do so over PM. I'm more than open to a great discussion.

Maybe, but were talking about dragons on Earth wich there were none of and there never was.

its possible that dragons do exist and when they die, their bodies become part of the earth. thats my explanation.

we all become part of the earth. Its called decaying. Or do you mean like their minds or something? cus.....

Ywah but what about their bones?

they decay too. Unless they're fossilized.

Since we are back to bones, my question still is: How would we tell them apart from dinosaur bones? I believe the most likely scenario is that "dragons" were a type of dinosaur that flew, and somehow avoided the great extinction.

well, we would have to have bones of some sort of HUGE wing membranes. But yeah, if dragons were to follow the stereotypical image of them, then they would have rather dinosaur like bones. But walking on four legs.

well, they do become fossils. and maybe the archeoligists who put it together, put bones in the wrong places so they ommited their wings

I kinda doubt they'd overlook something that big. They'd probably notice a pair of 20+ foot-wide bat-ish wings.

i dont believe in dragons not much to support that they existed

maybe the huge batlike wings were scattered somwehere else

And maybe they were. Unfortunatly, this could go on and on. Maybe their wings are being hidden as part of a government conspiracy, maybe dragons all lost their wings from a disease and became dinosaurs, maybe they removed their wings because they got tired of flying.

My point is there is an infinite number of possibilities. Anything could have happened. We have no proof.

well said. I kinda hope so, but not likely.



they would have found something by now, I'm sure.

matbe dragons don't die........
just a thought

With your first paragraph, you just continued to prove the point I made. There are millions of things that could have happened, but however you look at it, you can't prove they existed. And the "refrences", I think they primarily come from metaphors. Fantasy IS about making up things, that is how you get the creatures in the legends. As for the "creature" you saw, it was probably a vulture, eagle, or some other large bird.

I hope you guys do realise that dragons are a figament of someone's mind. Someone made up the mythical creature called "dragon" for fantasy books, and myths/legends.

It could be possible, but considering someone made it up, I think the chances are virtually impossible that they could have ever existed. The closest we have to dragons were the dinosaurs.

well, i belive that u saw a dragon thing

Right, I am going to create a new creature called...a dogdush. It will have ten ears, two red eyes, a pale face, and tusks. Oh, it also has a trunk, five legs, and one arm. Now, I'm going to say its real. Why? Because I've referenced it.

No, we can't prove they aren't real, but if they were, I am sure, what with the huge population of the Earth, and the way technology is going, someone would have signted them by now. Also, don't you think what we humans have done would have distrbed the dragons out of hiding? And, also, unless evidence is brought forward that strictly states that dragons are real, I think we have to conclude that dragons were built for fantasy books, and movies.

Anyway, Jade, what is your definition of a "dragon" exactly? Is it a fire-breathing lizard?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, what is a dragon anyways?
People see UFO's all the time, but does that make them real?
My belief is that they are not real, until they can be proven real.
Take it easy, if there is no proof, you can't believe I'll just agree that that was a dragon.

Well, if you did see anything, I think it is safe to say that it was a type of bird or bat. As you said: , so why would a dragon be venturing into human inhabited land?

Also, I think dragons are derived and the idea originated from lizards, as dragons are most often described as "lizard-like".

But, no, in my opinion, dragond don't exist, and lets hope that if they do,they never reveal themselves. They could be a potential predator and higher on the food-chain than us, which means they would need to be hunted down and terminated. Especially if they can breathe fire and are large in size.

First of all, let me say this: you are entitled to your opinion.

The point Sauron was making about the dogdush, and the point I am making in general is this: You could believe in anything, UFOs, flying cats, blue meanies, Atlantis. But believing in it does not make it real. To prove that, one needs evidence-bones, fossils, pictures, a dragon sitting on the White House lawn, etc. It may be real to you, and that is fine, but to convince others, like myself, it must be proven.

EDIT:@Sauron-That sounds like a bad movie

well, we never saw god but he is real

PSST: We can't talk about that here...

i definetly believe in dragons, hence the name DRAGONQUEEN. i wish i could see one, though. they would be so magestic and intelligent looking, i bet u!

well im just going to say something i think i brought up towards the beginning of this topic. Archaeologists find new species of prehistoric animals all the time. Just cause we don't have proof now doesn't mean there is no proof of dragons. Who knows one day we might find this evidence. I very much believe that one day we will find proof to show that a species of dragon once existed, but let me put it a way thats more believable... A dragon doesn't have to be all like we read in stories and see on tv. It doesn't have to breath fire or have any mystical powers... All a dragon really has to be is another flying type of prehistoric animal. In my opinion, a dragon would fit perfectly as a late ancestor of the raptor, which has been found to have what almost look like wings attached to their arms, but they couldn't use them to fly. Now go back another 500-1000 years... what if there was this ancestor which fit the body style of the raptor, but actually could fly... I think its then where we will find our first proof of a dragon.

OK, heres one problem with dragons, it is impossible to be able to breath fire.

yea rpm, shade has a point here and this was shown in dragons a fantasy made real on discovery... but also if you read my topic, the description of a dragon to me doesn't have to breath fire...you might wanna read it over again

yea on Dragons, their theory said that realistically, dragon would be to heavy to be able to fly on their own, so they ate some type of mineral, i forget which, that went into a special gland that turned it into hydrogen or something like that making them lighter, but a side effect of it, also a sufficient weapon is that the hydrogen reacted with something in the dragon, i also forget what they said, which created a flame... thus breathing fire