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i wonder what galbys trying to find the name of?

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
It has been discussed that he is most likely trying to find the name of the ancient language.

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yeah it says the name not a name

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That doesn't make any sense.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
lol, he was trying to agree with you, I think. by saying that he's not looking for a person's name, but a thing's name.

but I could be wrong, lol.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
yeah i think it is a name of something very powerful because the razac said the name not a name if he said that. eragon might as well say that galby is trying to find the true name of his socks

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Eragon isn't stupid. He would never think that.

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no it was an example to show that galby is not looking for a name he is looking for the whitch means that it is a name of power :D

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
The word the has nothing to do with it. The Ra'zac could have said A name and it could still mean A name of power. The signifies something the Ra'zac expected Eragon to know.

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it could be eragons true name

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
Galby wouldn't spend so long trying to find that when he already has Murtagh and if he was the Ra'zac would have said your name not the name.

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i don't think that it is eragons true name it's probally the name of the al

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or the true name of alagaisia

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
Now that would be scary, if he got the true name of alageisia he could control the land and with the energy from the eldunari's he could raise mountains or create a huge storm or flood to destroy the varden etc. he would be nigh unstoppable i would say.

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sblobby wrote:
Now that would be scary, if he got the true name of alageisia he could control the land and with the energy from the eldunari's he could raise mountains or create a huge storm or flood to destroy the varden etc. he would be nigh unstoppable i would say.


I don't know if he could do that with only the name of Alagaesia. He would have to have a lot more to be able to do things like that.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
That would be really bad. If he could control the land, there really wouldn't be any way to stop him. Also if he's searching for the name of the ancient language, the results of him finding it would be devestating. Being able to control the language that basically controls magic would be a huge power. There might even be a wy for him to control the peopkle speaking that language since he has controlr of the language itself. I wonder if the name he is searching for could have anything to do with the rock of kuthian and opening the vault of souls. Maybe Galby knows about it.


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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
I'm not even all that sure that Alagaesia would have a true name :wink: lol.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
ha that would destroy that theory right there if it doesn't lol but don't all things have true names no matter what they are?


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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
I think so, but I'm not sure that Alagaesia would...

it's kinda like this, the mountains and plants in the Spine have true names, but the Spine is just a name they put in a region, so the Spine wouldn't have a true name... lol.

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oh I think I see what your saying. Alagaesia as a whole can't have a true name but everything in it does. And i suppose that's probably true because the land is so different. I can't see th Hadarac Desert have the same name as Du Weldenvarden evn as a whole picture.


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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
I think that Galby is trying to find the name of the AL. What else would he be looking for the name of besides the name of the AL and Eragon's true name?

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Excuse me but what does AL means?Also could be the true name of a god?

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AL stands for ancient language. Since there is no proof that there are gods and Galby considers himself as strong as any god, he wouldn't search for that.

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well galby probally thinks that he is stronger than a god so if he found evidence of one he would try to enslave it and the god gets mad and kills galby :D :lol:

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That would be a nice end...for everyone except Galbatorix

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Galby isn't going to waste his time trying to see if one of the religion's gods are real.

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no like say when ever a peasent says guntera is a stupid name he gets hit with lighting then galby would be told and then galby tries it fails in taking over the god and the god makes him sing in front of the varden and then makes his head explode :D

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What you said, doesn't even make sense.

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yeah i am crazy :D it doesn't make to me anymore either :D :lol:

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
It has always seemed to me that everything has a True Name, but the name of the world would be something so profound that it would actually take lifetimes and lifetimes to piece together, to find it would mean having knowlege of the entire history of the entire world, knowlege of how every single thing in it works and why, knowlege of everythings reason for being, and the ability to put that together like pieces to a puzzle until it fit together into something that could be described in the Ancient Language. Even the elves could likely never find it, even the most ancient ones.

I agree with those who say its likely he is trying to find the true name of the Ancient Language, the name of all names if you will, since by controlling that everything that has a name (which would be everything) would fall under his control. The way the Ra'zac says "The" name suggests it, the Ra'zac couldn't be any clearer about what "The" name is because there is no way to really explain it, or because it had oathes forced on it to prevent it from telling anyone what Galbatorix was trying to learn the name of. (I refer to those wretched creatures as it.. as I don't know what else to call them XD)

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[color=#00FF00]I don't think that the world has a true name. Even if it did it would probably be harder than the name of the AL to find.
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yeah but it would be cool :D

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I don't think it is possible to find it because the world as a whole is always changing.

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yet evreything has a name in the al

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gomenesigh wrote:
I don't think it is possible to find it because the world as a whole is always changing.

I agree with you...

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with me or gnomenesigh?

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With me. That is why he quoted me not you.

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or maybe he quoted you to show he didn't belive you :D

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Ok, you don't have to disagree with everything I say. My god.

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i know but i think i am right but you think i am wrong :( i wish you would agree with me so other people might :D

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I'm not going to agree with you because half of what you type never makes sense and you never have any reasoning behind your opinions. To what you said earlier, "Everything has a name in the Ancient Language" I disagreed because that statement disagrees with mine.

The world cannot have a solid true name because it always changes. The people in Alagaesia do not even know about the other lands beyond the sea so there is absolutely no way they can find the true name of the world. No one knows about those other lands.

Just with Alagaesia, even that one place is always changing, the Burning Plains becoming what they are, trees growing and being cut down, mountains falling or getting higher, earthquakes and other natural disasters, the building of caves and homes by the Dwarfs, rain, heat, thunder, lightning, there are a countless number of things that just happen to Alagaesia. Even it soes not have a true name.

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brom said evrything has so brom agrees with me ha :twisted: :twisted: :-D :lol:

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Nobody will ever have entirely the same opinion, even if she did agree with you that doesn't mean anyone else would. I'll agree that it could be impossible for the world to have a true name, if it did it could be that it would constantly change. any way you look at it finding a true name for the world would be impossible.

Really whenever you make a point I do have to say that no real evidence is provided to prove your point, you have your opinion, be satisfied with that, gomenesigh has her opinion and has a right to it. it could be that none of us are right, we wont know for some time. so getting into a heated war over it is little more than a time sink

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He did not mean it in this sense. The world and other places do not have names in the Ancient Language and I'm done discussing this.

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gomenesigh wrote:
I'm done discussing this.

ok i might start a topic about it though :D

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I'd like to point out that people are always changing too. You have emotions, thoughts, opinions and a personality all of which change over time. Physically electricity,blood and body fluids are moving throughout the body. Cells are constantly being made, blood filtered, heart beating, lungs expanding, muscle contracting, hormones being released ..... well you get the idea. A person's body is ALWAYS changing so I can't see that being an obstacle to having a true name, after all Sloan is a person, his body is constantly changing and he has a true name. A tree falling down, a person or even thousands of people dying is not going to have a significant impact of Alagaesia just like losing a cell or even million cells has little effect on the owner of the body.

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AC's right. If the true name of Alagaesia changed with every little change, then the true name would always be changing.

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yeah he i was trying to think of a good example but i couldn't :( i'll start a topic :D

ok i posted it just now :)

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Everbody says that Galby is trying to find the true name of the AL. Didn't Brom say that someone only needed to find the name of the language to control it.

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First of all a million cells dying at once would have an impact on you and if you forget the elves say that your true name can and probably does change which means if the entire world had one (which it doesn't) it would change as well.

You have also yet to comment on the fact that even if it did have a true name the elves cannot find it at all. They only know what has happened to Alagaesia since they have been there and since humans and elves and maybe even Raz'zac all come from different lands they don't even know what else is in the world. Unless they go to every place successfully and learn a thousands of years of history about each place, finding the true name is impossible.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
i started a topic about and not many people or posting there so please post this there :(

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
Don't tell me what to do and there is no reason to spam text. This is a continuation of this topic and I will post here.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
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I'm done discussing this.

well you said that you were done talking about it so i started a topic and i just asked you to post that theory there :(

i think it is almost certain that galby is looking for the true name of the al :D :D

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
Yes, I do think that Galby is trying to find the name of the AL. I do not however, think that every name and place has a true name. If they did they would have been discussed somewhere in the book. That is what I am done discussing. I am not going to change my mind and neither are you, There is no reason to discuss it further.

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agreed :D

what else could it but the true name of the al

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
It could be something that we do not know about yet. CP could have put it in there just to get the gears in our heads turning and keep us thinking. He also could have done it to guarantee more people buy the book because it would be hard for some people to not know what it is (me included.).

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[quote=gomensigh]First of all a million cells dying at once would have an impact on you and if you forget the elves say that your true name can and probably does change which means if the entire world had one (which it doesn't) it would change as well.

You have also yet to comment on the fact that even if it did have a true name the elves cannot find it at all. They only know what has happened to Alagaesia since they have been there and since humans and elves and maybe even Raz'zac all come from different lands they don't even know what else is in the world. Unless they go to every place successfully and learn a thousands of years of history about each place, finding the true name is impossible.[/quote]

You wouldn't notice a million cells dying at once, at most that is a small friction burn, there is likely to be more dead cells on the bottom of your foot either way it certainly wouldn't affect your true name. I didn't say that Alagaesia's true name couldn't change I said that events like half a city burning would have very little effect on the land and so very little effect on the true name. Not knowing someone's entire history is not a barrier for being able to find someone's true name, after all Eragon found Sloan's true name without knowing his entire past. Thirdly there is no limit to the length of a true name, Alagaesia's true name could be hundreds of words. Anyway the point I was making was that Alagaesia has a true name. I don't think that anyone will find that True name because it's probably very long and may involve words in the AL that are unknown to elves, dwarves and varden.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
If the world had a true name than it would have been discussed somewhere in the books that the world does and Palancar Valley and every other. I know they don't have true names because when Eragon rescued Sloan he described where they were. He gave several different names including one the elves use in the AL. That was not however its true name. So places do not have true names.

Also, you don't need to know someone's entire history but you have to know about them. Since no one knows anything about the rest of the world, they will never find the "true name."

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1. I'm talking about the true name of alagaesia not the world.
2. Eragon said the elves call this place Mirnathor and they do, he didn't say that the true name was Mirnathor. Elves themselves have two names, there is their true name which they keep to themselves and their other name which they and others use.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
Yes and Alagaesia has only one name. If it did have a true name so would the Beor Mountains or the Hadarac Desert or Palancar Valley but neither of them do either. Places like that don't have true names, they just have names.

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I see your point, your saying that inanimate objects can't have true names. It would be a bit pointless for a twig to have a true name, but then again Rhunon says that brinsingr might be the true name of eragon's sword which suggests that inanimate objects have true names. Now I don't know what to think.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
Not that inanimate objects don't have true names because I remember Brom telling Eragon the name of a branch or something. Only that Elves already call cities and other places by different names in the AL but that isn't their true name.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
Exactly, when does is it stop? A branch is called a branch but does that branch have a true name of is it just a branch. A better example is that fire is called brisingr but if I started a fire would that particular fire have a true name different that other fires that was unique to it as well as being called brisingr. Expanded is a hill just called a hill or does it have a unique as well. See my confusion.

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Branches do have a true name. I remember that Brom told Eragon.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
That's not what I meant, I meant that you can describe it in the AL as a branch and that is it's true name, however it would also be the true name of different branch does each branch have a UNIQUE true name as well. Like how Eragon's sword could be called a sword (in the AL) however it also may have the true name Brisingr. Which is why I'm confused.

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I don't think each individual branch or hill or leaf or anything has a specific name. I think it is all grouped together. If someone wanted to specifically use one certain branch or leaf it would be simple because the magician would see the certain leaf in their mind. Like the example Oromis gives where if you cast a spell on something than get distracted about something else it will still only affect what was originally being cast upon.

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I'm confused too. If Eragon's sword has a true name it would only make sense for other inanimate objects to have true names, but every object having a true name just doesn't seem right.
But remember haw Brom said that Brisingr wasn't just a name for fire, but the name for fire.

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so alegasia can have a true name

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cool some one agrees with about the true name of alegaisa =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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i was the one who sugested it in the frist place

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where? :shock: if i had known i wouldn't of started a topic

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Alagaesia doesn't have a true name. The elves already gave it a name in the AL.

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brom say evrything not somethings evrything has a true name

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Does that mean that every cell has a true name? :lol:

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i gues so :lol:

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
1. Brom could have lied.
2. Brom could have meant that every cell does have a true name just like every branch does, but that that true name is the same one shared by every other branch or cell.
3. Brom didn't consider your interpretation of his words when he said them.

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Thank you so much for agreeing, aluminium.

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I don't think that Galby is looking for Alagaesia's true name though. What would he get out of it? He'd get a lot more out of finding the true name of the AL.

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IF he found the true name of alagasiea, he could make an earthquake where the varden are

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He could make an earthquake without knowing it's true name. Eragon could make an earthquake if he had enough power.

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but if he knew the true name he could do it with no energy

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
Umm.... Have you read the books? You cannot cast any kind of magic without using energy. Just because you know the true name doesn't mean you don't need energy. Anyone could do it quite well without needing the name of a general piece of land.

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but they would be affeceted by it too.

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He could get a lot more out of knowing the name of the AL.

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Post Re: whats galby trying to find the name of?
Yeah I highly doubt Galby would waste time looking for the 'name of Alagaesia.' The name of the AL would be much more useful.

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And probably easier to find.

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