whos side are you on? make the twins sound more powerful than they were. IMNC already said this, but they only found his mother's name in his mind, he didn't even know his fathers name, so the same mother means nothing.

I'm with IMNC, he's got the evidence on his side.

I think that Brom IS Eragon's father. You're right about the age thing, too. Based on what Oromis said, Morzan was even older than Brom. Brom probably only started to age faster after his dragon was killed, and was probably still not "old" when he met Selena.

Argh, another one falls to the side of evil! Read the sub-section in "About the books" in the 'Rumors' area. All arguments are there.

no. YOU are the evil one. how is thinking that the protagonist's father is GOOD make us EVIL? That's contradictory. Believing someone who has fallen to the dark side (Murtagh) unconditionally in all that he said makes one also of the dark side. That would be YOU. so

brom being eragons father definetly fits the story, and a little shock (not anymore) for the readers, and it would be a good shock, too. people would like it, a definet bonus for CP

But it simply cannot happen. I mean learning that Eragon was Morzan's son was a big shock to all the readers! He can't simply take it back and say, "Oh sorry you're actually Brom's son. Yes didn't you know your mother was a..." I'll leave it at that.

course he can: he's the author. and really, it makes sense based on what angela said. not to mention that its reader pleasing, to some, and would make sense based on blagdens riddle too. and more. take that, Dark Sider!! lol

"Evil always wins cause good is dumb" Quote from Spaceballs the movie. A good line though and it says everything I need to say.

*drinks from Spaceballs the Coffee Mug* Yeah, but who gets blown up in the end? The bad guys.

Lol, you all have seen it. But anyway getting off topic. Blagden's riddle was talking about the children, not about the parents.

it was talking about both parents AND children.

roughly, it said father and son, both as blind as bats. would blagden have met morzan? not likely. but brom, most definetly. it was talking about eragon and his father

ARREGHHH!!! Blagden doesn't have to have met the rider to say his riddles!!!!! Why doesn't anyone understand that?

that wan't a prophesy. that was just a cryptic comment/joke. he knew Eragon's father. Besides, it was Brom who was blind. Remember how Angela said that there were only two others who had their true prophecies taken? Selena and a BLIND MAN. We KNOW that Angela knew Brom's true fate. 1 + 1 = 2. She knew Brom's, the Blind Man's, fate. Brom was blind TO his fate. That's what Blagden was saying. They were both blind to their fates.

exactly!! Blagden doesn't have to have MET the person! The spells that were given to him had the consequence that he told the riddles. There are no restrictions that he had to have seen the person. Also Angela never told the prophecy of Brom. She said it was a blind Beggar and Brom would not have a reason to be begging on the streets.

yes he does. he was talking from personal experience. He has prophesied to Eragon's father, meaning that he had to have met Eragon's father.

find the passage that says he is a beggar, but who says that it couldn't have been Brom in disguise? And the person had to have talked with Solembum for Solembum to have "liked" him.

hey, hadn't thought of it like that, course, CP wouldn't have put that in for nothing. now i feel a bit stupid.

give in to our superior evidence and numbers. you must.

NEVER! I refuse to believe that Brom is Eragon's father.

What the hell do you mean personal experience? He never said anything to Brom. I mean whats to say he wasn't talking about Morzan anyway? They BOTH would have met Blagden in the time of the riders. He was saying that to convey a point to Eragon.

Page 201, halfway down the page the paragraph sarts with --"It's a compliment, coming from him."--

Brom could not reduce his pride down to making himself look like a beggar, besides if he in fact MADE himself look like a beggar then he wouldn't get any information out of anyone because they sure wouldn't want to talk to a beggar.
The beggar could have been born with an innate sense of magic, just never developed it because nobody would teach him.

ur just being stubborn.

NO. You are COMPLETELY wrong. Morzan NEVER met Blagden. Remember, he was never brought to Ellesmera. Brom was. Thus, Brom met Blagden, Morzan did not.

can you site the passage SAYING that there was a blind beggar? like the actual words?

yes he could. he's not that prideful. He made himself a storyteller in a small town. If he can go that low, he can go lower, no problem. Don't make up character traits to help your argument PLEASE.

How many beggars running around can talk to animals telepathically? NONE. This beggar is somehow important. We most likely won't meet him in the upcoming books, so it's most likely Brom.

honestly, most likley, CP wouldn't have just thrown in the beggar. it must be important. therefore, it makes sense to assume it's Brom.

even it it does say blind beggar, brom could pretend to be blind, and he's more powerful in magic than angela, and could fool her. or maybe she knew it was him, but didn't tell anyone

To IMNC;
Sigh, I didn't want to recite the whole paragraph. But here it is page 201 of ERAGON, original edition. Chapter "The Witch and the Werecat"

"It's a compliment, coming from him. You're the third person to come in here who has been able to speak with him. The first was a woman, many years ago; the second was a blind beggar; and now you." These were the words of ANGELA HERSELF!!!

But he IS prideful, why he looked at Eragon scornfully when they entered Dras-Leona. After when Eragon said that he had some brain-fever.

How do you know no beggars are wandering the streets with telepathic abilities? Would YOU stop to talk to one? Whether they came up to you or you to them?
Signed:
Aeraldi

To Seige;
No CP wouldn't have just thrown him in, which is why I think his identity will be revealed in Book 3.

and how would anyone BUT Brom be able to talk to animals telepathically? it's a very advanced technique. Only riders after years of training could do that. And who says that she wasn't just protecting the identity of who it was? or he really was disguised?

he is NOT prideful. He just doesn't like to have to play a crazy guy, or being called crazy by Eragon. How could he be PRIDEFUL??? He was living as a STORYTELLER for YEARS!!!

I dont know if Brom is eragons father or not

none of us no for sure, but still. and Aeraldi, theres a chance he'll throw the beggar in, and i hadn't thought of that, but quite simply, more points towards brom being his father than not. look a it from CP's point of view: it will make a lot of fans happy, and acually give Eragon a father he can be proud of, which is a huge bonus. and who else would he woman for whom broms love was her undoing? no one!!

really, it makes LOTS of sense

Brom said that ANY person could learn it, given the right training. They don't have to be a rider or magician to have telepathic abilities. Although he did say that it helped.

Storytellers are not looked down upon, or even not liked. Most people love to hear stories, even if they are fabricated. It just didn't earn an income, hence why the younger generation are not sitting around telling stories.

It would make SOME of the readers happy, for the others it would be torture. Eragon has pride in himself, that he DIDN'T become like Morzan like Murtagh did. As for the woman, it could have been anyone for all we know.

true, but I HIGHLY doubt that a random beggar would walk into Angela's shop and talk to Solembum.

It's a large drop from dragon rider to humble storyteller.

Eragon doesn't have THAT much pride, but that isn't something that he is prideful about. He is glad that he hasn't become like Morzan, whom he believes to be his father, but he is not prideful.

Are you talking about the woman who had her fortune told? that WAS Selena.

yeah, they practically told you flat out that it was. or they said her name, just not "YOUR MOM CAME IN HERE AND HAD YOUR FORTUNE TOLD!!" anyways, it wouldn't be just any random woman that brom loved. it WILL tie into the story, and it just makes sense. let go of your pride and stubborness, and just see it!!

NEVER!

The beggar might be important somewhere in the story. It could be that Eragon shows him some kindness and he shows Eragon a safe place to hide from Galby. Or something like that.

Remember he would have thought it was a large drop from Dragon Rider to human.

I didn't say he had a lot of pride. That was a typo... Here's what I meant to say:
Eragon is proud of himself, that he DIDN'T become like Morzan like Murtagh did.

No I meant the woman Angela told Eragon about when she was talking about Brom. I have no doubt that Selena had her fortune told.

Brom could have loved any woman, and as such it led to her downfall since Brom wouldn't age as she did. It could have been during any time.

yeah, but he wouldn't have just thrown that it. so there's really no chance of it just being "some woman". it MUST be her

you're just stubborn. you know that, right?

I HIGHLY doubt that that someone will arise in the next few books. We already know that Brom has been referred to as blind, by Blagden.

No. He was always human. And he knew that he would have a very VERY long life anyways, so no, there wasn't much of a difference. But for profession, from being a high and mighty rider to a lowly storyteller is a large drop. I mean of all the professions, a storyteller in a small town? that's pretty low on the ladder. He is NOT prideful.

yeah, that woman was Selena. In both cases. The one whose downfall was caused by Brom. She is the only woman we know of who HAD a downfall.

I get that a lot.

We know that Blagden was talking about Eragon and his FATHER. Morzan was blind to Galbatorix and helped him rule without thinking of the consequences of what could happen.

Why wouldn't there be someone to arise? Vanir was important in Eragon's training, and he just arose out of nowhere.

He was a rider, and trained to believe that he was responsible for looking after the land. That he was a protector for the people. So from protector to the protected was a pretty big step. He exiled himself from the world, waiting for the next rider. So he picked the best option available to him, storytelling in a town not well known.

We don't know very much about Brom's love. Except what Angela told us, she was telling us how sad Brom's life was, how he tried everything to be happy but it all fell in on him.

yeah. well, it's true. you are defying logic for what you want to believe, or more like what you don't want to believe.

Morzan knew perfectly well what he was doing was wrong. And that kind of blindness is not comparable to being blind to the meaning of his riddle. Blagden was referring to someone else who was blind to what Blagden said. Brom was the only one of the two to meet Blagden, so it has to be him.

Vanir is ONLY important as someone to show the difference between Eragon before and after his transformation. Vanir is of no more importance. We never saw him after that, did we?

no. at first he was running the rebellion. and killing off the Wyrdfell. THEN he went and became a Storyteller, a lowly, unimportant position. He is by NO means prideful. I don't see where you got that from.

No. His relationship was the WOMANS downfall. That fits PERFECTLY with Selena, and no other woman is important enough to have been mentioned.


Annie. I know. I was just trying to say that he didn't care that he was going into a lowlier position and that he is NOT prideful.

I admit, my evidence is lacking. I did my best with what I had, I don't want to become someone truly obsessed with Eragon and read everything in between the lines, and make assumptions on what my mind has fabricated. My arguments have gone downhill but I still refuse to believe that Brom is Eragon's father. It is just wrong in my mind. I'll still give my position as best I can though.

No he didn't know that was he was doing was WRONG, in his mind he was doing the RIGHT thing and he was BLIND to the future he was creating.

The point I was making with Vanir was that characters come and go. Galbatorix may get into Eragon's mind since that is what he is good at and the beggar could be the one that reminds Eragon of what he is fighting for.

I yield on the Pride argument as I have no idea how that even became an issue.

I know it was about the Woman's downfall, that means that Brom has to live with her death on his conscience.

OK... you guys seem to have a HUGE argument and I am completely lost in between. But I still think Brom is Eragon's father.

I agree with IMNC. Maybe Morzan was a little blind, but he had never met Bladgen. Anyway, how much MORE blind was Brom to trust Morzan?

Vanir is not important at all. All he did was help us notice how Eragon's improved. Like IMNC said.

As for Brom and Selena, it didn't actually say that it was the WOMAN'S downfall, it just said something like his love made her go away. Which means she was scared Morzan would find out.

I'm sorry if my arguments were completely off-topic, but as I said I am lost.....

I repeat:
Blagden doesn't have to have met the rider to say his riddles!!!

The point I was making with Vanir was that characters come and go. Galbatorix may get into Eragon's mind since that is what he is good at and the beggar could be the one that reminds Eragon of what he is fighting for.

so'kay. i beleive that vanir will have more of a part, most likely as a comrade of eragons. perhaps he'll partially heal the wound murtagh left. maybe not.



he most certainly wasn't blind to what was happening: he knew full well what he was doing, and chose it. and, brom was blind to what morzan was doing; how cruel and controlling he was.

my opinions. basically, it makes most sense that brom was his father, based on evidence and fan appeal

that definetly makes sense.

as far as vanir goes, well, he opened up after eragon proved his worthiness and skill. he was dissapointed, because he felt that now his people had no hope to defeat galby, what with a crippled rider

lol pehaps Brom was never even Brom, perhaps it was Morzan impostering Brom with some deep dark magic

lol. ur kidding, right?

@Annie: nah. he was obviously referring to how Eragon didn't understand his prediction, so I'm going to go ahead and assume neither did his father, Brom. We KNOW that Blagden never met Morzan, so he could have only predicted for Brom.

I'll say it YET AGAIN for those who seem to NEVER listen to my words!!!



Do you get it NOW!?!?!

but that wasn't a prophetic riddle. for THOSE he doesn't have to meet the person. he was just talking from his past experiences. for THAT, yeah, he needs to have met the person.

right. when he says thier both as blind as bats, he's speaking from personal experience. he's likely met brom, and was frustrated at his lack of understanding of something, and eragon didn't understand things either

Well presonnaly i think that Brom IS Eragon's father. Oromis, when teaching Brom probably thought he was blind, as is Eragon, or as was Eragon because Eragon didn't get alot of the magic things before his transformation. And also, in the Anceint laungauge, you can say something that is true, but what if it is something you believe true. There is no restriction on saying it because you beleive it is true. And because the number 1 faulter in humans usually is that they always jump to a conclusion. They never stop and think of multiple outcomes, then look up the info. Therefore, the twins, galbx, and murtaugh, all wanted to find an answer so instead of looking harder for one, they jumped to a conclusion. This CP did i know not why but only that it may have been so as to throw of the readers. That way the shock, which makes a book good, will come later on as something completly unexpected! So you see Brom HAS to be eragon's father! It is just there but you have to look for it. There is lots of info supporting it, but you have to find it.

There is also lots of info saying that he isn't. And also, I could turn that argument back on ya but I won't because it wouldn't be too polite.

what are you TALKING ABOUT??? You have NOTHING on me and my argument.

how much? murtagh said so, who was told by the twins, who simply saw the same first name in both minds. and, just because selena had murtagh through morzan, doesn't mean he was eragon's father too.

and, it would explain angelas words on the woman who's downfall it was perfectly, and blagdens prophecy, AND how brom new selena, AND is a feel good twist

But then it doesn't mean he wasn't either. Right now the only evidence we have to say who Eragon's father was is Murtagh who told him in the ancient language. There is NO factual evidence to indecate that Brom could be Eragon's father. Only what people have made up.

Now I know that speaking in the ancient language only means what Murtagh believes to be true but what reason would Galbatorix have to lie to Murtagh and then have him lie to Eragon? Galbatorix knew the inner workings of the minds of the rider's he commanded which meant he knew about their minions. So he would have kept an eye on them as well. That means that Brom couldn't have come anywhere near Selena or his cover would have been exposed therefore leading all the Forsworn straight to Brom.

Angela's words on the downfall of a woman was to show that Brom tried everything to be happy yet failed in everything he tried. CP wrote it in to make Brom's story even sadder, because he wouldn't have tried to live his entire life as a hermit. Come on, who would? As for Blagden's prophecy/taunt Morzan would have come to Ellesmera to search out the land. To see everything there is so he could scry it later. As for how Brom knew Selena... I'm at a loss there.

I was just re-reading a couple of the thread posts and I came up with another idea. A... Compromise to put it. Brom IS Eragon's father in that he helped raise Eragon when he was a child, telling him stories of heroes and dragonriders. He didn't help create Eragon in the biological sense but he raised him just like Garrow. Maybe in the third book Eragon might realize this.

There is PLENTY of factual evidence to support Selena having an affair with Brom, and then some that directly suggests that Brom is Eragon's father.

anything to demoralize Eragon is good in Galby's eyes, and maybe he believes it himself. She wouldn't have been on Galby's radar the entire time. And remember, she was good enough to not be found by the foresworn, including Morzan, who supposedly knew where she was going. She was good at stealth, so she probably would have been able to keep a relationship with Brom secret.

It specifically states that he was HER downfall, meaning that he caused something bad to happen to her. A failed relationship would have been enough. This goes beyond just a failed relationship.

That's just stupid. He already came to that conclusion.

Wait, Aeraldi, you are saying Eragon MIGHT relize this. But in the ending for Eldest, he states Brom is even more his father than Morzoran ever was. So that obliterates that, but unless you were talking about Eragon relizing that Brom was/IS his father, then I will stand by my statement.

how do you plot that course? how would he know eragon would be the next rider? that doesn't fit at all.

and if you acknowledge that he was selena's downfall, then what could he have done that would do that, besides making her pregnant?

IT WAS NOT SELENA!!! Brom did have a love some time during his life but it was never Selena!

then who were you talking about?

Some random woman that Brom tried to settle down with and be happy. A woman that was never Selena!

And proof supporting this is where? I believe on the 2nd page or maybe 1st somebody gave a Loooong list on how much evidence supported Brom being Eragon's father and how little was there for Morzoran

That was from the site http://www.Shurtugal.com and i have no idea who wrote their stuff. Whoever it is has a serious issue of not liking the fact that Morzan is Eragon's father.

then it angela's words were totally irrelevant, something that's totally unlike CP!!! it must mean something, and that's it!

you have to realize, most of what he writes, at least like that, will tie in in an important way. so it MUST be selena.

If there was something that explicitly said that Brom had a relationship with Selena, there would be no doubt in anyone's mind. There is evidence that suggests a relationship, but this is hard to find. To those who have been shown it by someone else, it should be rather convincing except for morons, the stubborn, and the stubborn morons. as to which you are...no comment. ^.^

Surely she would be able to evade Galbatorix also. If he knew that she was with Brom, then he would have killed her straight off. But I think that her "getting sick" when she came back was him killing her because he took the information from her mind about what she had been doing, or at least at that point knew what she was doing. Galbatorix's power is to be able to easily enter someone's mind and he knows evil, arcane arts. He is no better at scrying than anyone else. You can't be BETTER at scrying. She could have done the same thing that the Twins did to Murtagh to make Eragon and Arya not able to scry him. If Arya couldn't do it, Galbatorix probably couldn't either.

The only woman with a downfall that we know of was Selena and a random woman would be stupid. CP wouldn't have used such cryptic wording if it was just some random woman. That's pretty obvious.

Selena chose the name. When she gave birth to him and then went back and died, Brom went to keep an eye on his son.


Volixier was not referring to that piece of $H1† argument on shurt'ugal, but was referring to my evidence that I found. It is more than enough to persuade all but the most stupid and the most stuborn, and the most stubborn stupid.

The strength of the person DOES have an effect on the scrying. Take Eragon's necklace for example, it draws on his power to block the other person. Even though he is strong it still took a lot of energy for him to deflect the scry. Judging from that we can deduce that someone could find another person unless they died from overuse, if someone was determined enough they could break through the spell.

We don't know that for sure. CP could have just been looking for some more filler. We only find out that Selena was sick, then she died. She didn't have a downfall caused by Brom, only because of Morzan.

It was never said that it was Selena that chose the name either. Only that she arrived in Carvahall, gave birth to a baby and left. It was never said that she named the child.

Could you provide the link so I can read this "Evidence"?

It has little to do with the energy put into the scrying. It just makes the person and the area around that person appear black. My point is that if he really did keep a tabs on her, he would have found out about her helping the Varden out, which he wouldn't have allowed. Maybe he found out some alternate way...wait a second...maybe he did, but it was after she had helped Brom a lot and was in Carvahall, and definitely after Galby started to stay in Uru'baen (sp). Galby DID send many soldiers through there, but they got lost in the Spine, probably the work of a spellcaster, either Selena herself, or, more likely, Brom.

People don't look for 'filler' in the FIRST book. That just doesn't happen.

I'm pretty sure that she gave him that name. Site the passage. I don't have my book here...

srry, will post later. GTG.

i think IMNC's right: she did give him the name. also, its possible that after having eragon, selena needed to hide his existence by abandoning him, and to get back to urubaen, to make things look natural. but she was weak from giving birth, and either died from that, or was too weak to fight off an infection or something. Galby may never have known about eragon, not till the Twins found out that murtagh and eragon shared mothers

Brom IS Eragon's father, he as to be it would explain alot + what Blaghden said to Eragon in Ellesmere was : 'Just like your father both as blind as bats' or something to that effect, how could he know about Morzan, he never entered Ellesmere and was not allowed to go near Du Weldenvarden, so Blaghden would know nothing about him! Blaghden knew Eragon's father so either Eragon's father was an elf which is highly unlikely or Eragon is the fruit of Brom and Selena's love and would explain why Brom was in Carvahall and why Selena ran away!

How stupid can people be? Morzan would have been to Ellesmera before Galbatorix lost his dragon, during the age of peace. So he would have met the queen and Blagden.

NO, or else he would know how to get there and he would have told Galby. Besides, he defected before he was ever shown there. Only at a certain age/level were (human) riders allowed to be shown Ellesmera.

he would have been trained in Vroengard, or maybe Illeria (sp), so he probably wouldn't have met blagden. but brom would have-he's met the queen, and been to elesmera. (sp) so blagden would have been talking about
brom, NOT morzan

But Galbatorix DOES know where Ellesmera is, he just can't get through the barrier protecting the forest. Morzan would have went to see everything in the known land then so he could scry it later.

I'm not saying he was trained there, I'm saying it was after his training. The amount of time would have let them.

nah, he was still young when he was converted. it was likely more of an honor reserved for more senior members of the Riders

and no, du weldenvarden's so huge that galby doesn't know exactly where it is, and can't just send an army marching in, they'd become hopelessly lost. and the barrier is against magic--ie scrying and sending objects in via magic. sure, there are random enchantments in it, and creatures, and guards, etc, but no big barriers

He was at least 50 years. Long enough to say he was a full dragon rider, but faaaar too short to say he could be anything else. Why would Ellesmera be reserved for the more senior members? I mean there was no need to be discreet because there was no reason to be afraid, the riders were plentiful and no outsiders could get in.

Hence why Galby hasn't gone in and destroyed it yet, he simply can't get there.

he was NOT 50 years old!!! He was YOUNG when it happened.

go show me the page where it says that he knows where it is. it says that he DOESN'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. OR HE WOULD HAVE INVADED IT ALREADY!
and IMNC's right-Morzan was rather young, maybe 20 something

I agree with them, but what if angela was Brom's lover? Just another side of the story to view from. Even though I agree Brom is his father.

Here we go again. Angela is NOT Selena. END OF DISCUSSION. There is NOTHING to support that. She gave a prediction to Selena. She didn't give a prediction to herself then count herself as one of the people whom she gave predictions to.

lol i agree with imnotcrazy. why would she tell eragon she gave selena a prediction and then go oh guess what! im selena. and i do believe that brom is eragons father and that murtagh told him the truth when he said they were half brothers and just didnt no that they had the same mother and two different fathers.

But why would Selena run away from Brom if he was Eragons father and give her baby to her brother instead of Brom? I still think that Morzan was Eragons father and Selena got scared for her baby when he threw the knife at Murtagh. So she ran away and hid the baby and then she returned to make sure that Murtagh didnt get hurt any more than he already had. But she got punshed for running away...

she probably didnt go to brom because she knew if morzan caught her and saw her with him that he would kill brom. she went to her brother instead because she knew he could protect him and raise him with less supsicion since he already had one son. she also mite have not gone to brom because he mite not have known she waz pregnant and she didnt want to run up to him and say hey hon we've got a baby! oh now ive got to go or morzan will kill me. that would have made brom get angry and try to protect her from morzan and then she would have lost both eragon and brom

So she can spend enough time with Brom to concive and be enough
places with Brom to get to know him well. But she cant hide with him (a magic user and skilled at hiding combined with her own powers) long enough to have the baby and hand him off, but can run away to her brother who lives in a vally far away from help and unprotected with only her magic to help her. Also I would think that Morzan (the person shes in love with) would want to know about her and one of first things he would find out is WHO HER FAMILY IS! I would think staying with Brom would be her best option but if Brom wasent Eragons father than Selena's brother would have to be her best choice.
What one would you pick to stay with?

mayb she didnt no who the father waz? she most likely had slept with both of them and in order to stay and keep watch over murtagh she had to convince morzan that eragon waz his child. then when she became scared for eragons life she had two choices: go to the man who may or may not b his father, or go to her brother. so she chose the second one, thought eragon would b safe, goes back to try and get murtagh and gets punished for running away

yet another theory could b that she knew brom waz the father and had left eragon with her brother while she planned to go back for murtagh. she told him who the father was in case something went wrong and then left. she never returns but her brother goes and tells brom hes the father hince the reason why he shows up to watch over eragon from a distance. thats also the reason he kills morzan because of not only what he did to his dragon but because he did something to selena as well.

if she didn't know who the father was, then she wouldn't have needed to fear that it was Brom's. She knew it was Brom's. She was scared for herself and the safety of her child. that's it.

She left him with her brother because she probably didn't know where Brom was at the time and he was probably unreachable. Her brother was living on a farm, so he wouldn't be hard to find.

yea i knew that 1st theory waz a dud but i kept tryin to make it wrk for some reason lol

grr u can put things in two little short paragraphs and mine tend to go on forever and sometimes dnt make very much sense lol

meh, I'm a busy guy...and I get bored easy so I tend to simplify.

i wish i could cause i tend to overthink things. ahh well back to the topic.. i wish cp would've released the 3rd book sooner cause im tired of trying to prove the broms eragons father theory

And I can't wait to rub this theory in your face when it goes down the drain.

hahaha!! good joke!! you made me laugh!!

oh, wait, you actually think that your theory has a chance of being right?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? my bad, i thought you were joking, cus you have no hope. We will be the ones gloating, and that's that I'll shove this back in your face when we're right

were u talkin to me or aeraldi?

oh. aeraldi. he was talking about how he'd shove it in our faces. what a joke....

i no! when ours is proven rite im gonna make a huge thread that says haha i told u so!

I still think Morzan is Eragons father because if your theory is right Eragons mother would have to be a ****, (to not know who was his father) and that would wreck Eragon's image of his mother and father (brom) Eragon can only stand so much pain in a lifetime. To hav?e his mother become that, in his eyes and his previous friend and mentor become that what would that do to his self convidence?
And this theory is wrong and I will gloat along with the rest of them!


Edited by AnnieBee for inappropriate word usage

ok...this calls for Annie to step in. *shines the Annie signal* lol...

lol. i know, right. i'll hold them back till she shows up

the rest of who? almost no ones on your side!! and while that might be true in real life, in a story, or because of the way our world thinks, eragon won't care. he'll just be glad that brom's his dad. and selena was never married to Morzan anyways, so your point is moot

smart people...
Who the heck is Annie?

you should be shot. AnnieBee, she's a moderator, peacemaker, etc?!? you don't know her huh. you should be shot.

and yes, we are

no your not smart...
and unlike some people I dont spend all my spare time on here and am only joined because i wanted to see if anyone knew anything about the 3rd book
(they dont)
then I got mad about some of these stuiped theorys and...

how do you expect us to know stuff? he's told us nothing! so we speculate, and debate, and if you don't like that, then do what you want, but don't disrupt things. that's why we joined too, but we stayed cus we liked it here.

and be careful about insulting people.

Well I kinda figured that a site all about the books would know something with all the people on here daily...
but you know thats not a good enough reason...
you take things way to personally! I mean if you look at my meager postings you will see that I stick up for anyone who is being treated wrongly and treat the doers with all the respect they deserve...
Besides i dont really mean any of my insults. If I did I would be a hypocrite

i wasn't that offended, but some could be. btw we know what we know, which is no more than CP tells us, which is very little. so we resort to theorizing, hoping that we'll form an idea of what the 3rd'll be like. if we're right, we're happy, if we're wrong, we deal with it, but it helps us deal with that lack of info, and the waiting we have to suffer through. anyways

well its no fun to be right because then you knew what was going to happen and its not a suprise!

sometimes it is, cus you figured out what the author was thinking. i see your point though. but it's our way of coping

We are WAY off topic. lets stop, or get back on