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Post what will happen to elva?
i thought her story kind just went out the window in brisingr it kind of seemed C.p wanted her all wrapped up and forgotten

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i dunno, they did say that she still can sense the hurts, so maybe they'll bring her back to get rid of galby

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yeah possibly i was just wondering because i thought it was a bit odd to just end her story so soon in the book

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Post Re: what will happen to elva?
she gona play vital role in anti galby strugle,and then she hav 2 die coz she is unstable


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very unstable :twisted: :twisted:

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But she is being looked after by Angela.

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So? she's still unstable

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Yeah but Angela has plenty of experience with unstable people such as her mentor Tenga.

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she will still have a role im sure somthing important too i think.

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maybe eragon capture and torture him and elva will hree him and he will fight eragon again

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Who is him or he because the only male in your sentence was eragon and the sentence

"Maybe Eragon capture and torture Eragon and elva will free Eragon and Eragon will fight Eragon again."

just dosen't make sense...

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i mean what if eragon captures galby and torchures galby and elva senses it and frees him.

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For Eragon to even think about torturing Galby he would have to have a massive character change.

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Post Re: what will happen to elva?
I agree with aluminiumclock for the whole character change that would have to happen for Eragon to do that. Have any of you thought that Elva could be the next dragon rider?...apparently she was supposed to have a major role in the next book. :)


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its possibble but very unlikely and before AC says "what do you mean unlikely" i mean her curse/ability would make it difficult to be a dragonrider because she would have to fight in wars and kill people and she can barly stand people being injured. ha i remembered the color

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Post Re: what will happen to elva?
you do have a point, but in the end of Brisingr Elva says that she still felt people's pain, but she felt that she didn't need to shield them from the pain and that she could stand it. I still think that she is a possibility, but personally i want Arya to be the next dragon rider. :)


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true she did say that but if she used to not be able to stand death i dont think she will be able to cause it even if she can sheild herself from it.

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but she could cause eragon harm

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She could. She also might die in book 4.

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I don't think that she will die. She doesn't want to help anyone.

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Why couldn't she die? Sure it's unlikely, but it's possible.

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What I meant was is that she wasn't friendly to anyone and it doesn't seem like she will help the Varden or anyone else unless she has to and I don't think she would sacrifice herself for anyone.

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Post Re: what will happen to elva?
Elva never seemed at all forgotten to me, she was still being mentioned in different parts all the way through Brisingr. After Eragon fixed (part of) what he did to her his obligation to her was fulfilled, and she basically turned against him as a result (and everyone else for that matter) I highly doubt that she would have anything to do with Galbatorix considering all the suffering he causes. She mostly just seems highly uninterested in siding with anybody but herself.

She is likely to not become the next rider, and if she did the dragon would suffer the same pain as Elva whenever someone was hurt because of the bond the two would have. Unless they intended to keep their minds entirely seperate which would make for a poor partnership.

CP had a baby on a spear so that being said a 2-6 year old girl could easily be a target aswell, and she already defied Galbatorix by revealing the Black Hand group to Nasuada which I don't see him forgiving if he ever figures it out.

Elva still hangs around Angela and Nasuada by personal choice (so far as I can tell from the parts that mention her after the counterspell is in place) so its likely that she will continue to do so until she doesn't feel like it anymore. But because of the fact that she is traveling with the Varden she will be close to alot of meaningful events simply by those connections, so she could directly or indirectly influence them in some way (dispite the fact that she has to be put to sleep during big battles)

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She might not have to be put to sleep anymore since it doesn't hurt her a lot anymore and I don't think she will be a rider. That would most likely not turn out good.

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hmm from what I recall even after Eragon cast his counterspell on her Elva still had to be put to sleep during battle, because she can actually still feel all of the pain of the people around her she just isn't compelled by the initial spell to help them anymore (she"can ignore it without throwing up")

If she were to be awake during a large battle all of the death would drive her mad (I can imagine it being like Eragon connecting to the world around him when he drew power from the plants and small animals during his instruction in magick, the experence of dying over and over, but without the ability to break the contact and for a much longer time.)

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Then this ebony bird beguiling my sad fancy into smiling,
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`Though thy crest be shorn and shaven, thou,' I said, `art sure
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Tell me what thy lordly name is on the Night's Plutonian shore!'
Quoth the raven, `Nevermore.'


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I see, I thought she didn't feel the pain anymore.

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During Eragons talk with Oromis it is confirmed that she still feels the pain of other people, but because it was her choice to continue doing so Eragons debt to her was repayed by all rights. Elva wanted to keep the ability because it gives her power and influence "I will never be a normal person, or would you take it from me by force? Galbatorix would approve." was a play on the pain Eragon feels over what he did to her.

She can feel what pains people and intends to use it against anyone who gets in the way of the things she wants (which is why Eragon and Saphira were going to force a counterspell to remove the rest of it on her regardless of her wishes at first)

I am extremely curious to see what happens to Elva, she is a walking conflict..

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I am too. I also really want to see what happens with those two women that met with Angela.

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I wonder what their future was.

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You mean is? CP didn't just put them in there. They are there for a reason.

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Post Re: what will happen to elva?
They could just be there for the sake of filler, yeah they have important fates, that fact is obvious.. But their names weren't even mentioned from what I recall, they got all of a few moments in the story and then were never talked about again..

Elva's fate however has always been Eragons greatest mistake however, she is vastly more important to the storyline and its likely that her fate will have a huge impact on everyone around her in the end (one way or another)

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I highly doubt she will have a huge impact. An impact? Yes. A very important or significant one? No.

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I think that her part has already been played in the book.

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To an extent, but you underestimate the fact that given her new found sliver of freedom from Eragon's "blessing" she could technically choose to stab Nasuada in the back if she felt like it, and could then easily manipulate the vast majority of the Varden into a state of hopelessness
by playing on their fears and the things that pain them, I can see more than "oh I'm free I can make an ominous statement and unnerve a rider then just do nothing for the rest of the story" in Elva's future.

She has a terrifying ability, and depending on how its used it could very well sway things in the vardens favor, or if she decides on it she could demoralize the entire army person by person just by talking to them, though doing so would mean getting away from Angela.

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`Though thy crest be shorn and shaven, thou,' I said, `art sure
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Tell me what thy lordly name is on the Night's Plutonian shore!'
Quoth the raven, `Nevermore.'


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Post Re: what will happen to elva?
I have a feeling that Angela won't let her out of her sight after what went on in the tent. Even so, I don't think she would go to that far extremes. Living with Varden is really the only choice for her.

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for now it is but what about after the end of the war?

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Angela watching over Elva has nothing to do with the war. She is looking after her to make sure she doesn't cause any mischief and to teach her how to behave. She stated that after punching Eragon in the face.

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I seriously don't think that Elva will that much more in the book.

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Well she has already played big roles in the other three books it would be weird for CP to just cut her out of the fourth book.

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I don't think that he'd cut her out of book four, but that she wouldn't play that big of a role.

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With Nasuada's nature I think Elva probably would be. She did say that Elva is anyone could beat Galby or at least help Eragon do it if he got on her good side and because she can sense things, Angela could persuade her to help the Varden and look for traitors or something.

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Yes, she could. But she's played such big parts in the first three books,that I don't think that her part will be that big in book 4.

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That's like saying neither will Murtagh or Nasuada or Orrin or Roran or any other characters of that standing.

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I wouldn't be able to comprehend why CP would suddenly drop Elva after three books, especially when he's built her character into being one of the main "supporting" characters already.

it would be like.. well say in the lord of the rings if the one ring was suddenly worthless in the end lol...

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Post Re: what will happen to elva?
I also think that Elva will have a rather important impact on the last book, it's kinda thrown out there by CP in the way that he's written about her so far and the way he has her leave.

I don't know, I think that because she likes Saphira then she might help the Varden, but she's so unpredictable that I don't really know.

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Post Re: what will happen to elva?
If she's going to have a big impact then what are the possibilities for what she'll do?

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I have already stated them. Read the posts.

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Post Re: what will happen to elva?
I have read them, it's just that they don't seem all that likely. She is still just a child. I don't think that she could really help Eragon kill Galby. Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know.

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She only has a child's body. She has the mind of an adult. She would be more than capable of helping Eragon or anyone else in the Varden.

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Affiliation: Lamp Shade
Post Re: what will happen to elva?
Yeah, I guess. She's creepy though.

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