ok i was thinkin bout this...u cant directly lie in the ancient language correct?ok,hypothetically,if eragon were to say in the ancient language"im going to kill galbotorix in the next hour" if he could say it...it would have toi happen...if he cant say it...it would be a lie so it cant happen...does that make sense?

thatw as an example lol but what i saying is couldnt he predict the future?

You have to be in a certain range to kill someone with magic and if you're far away you'll be using more magic.

ahh ur right scarecrow...i had not thoguth of that.good theory

Well first he would have to know what to say, then find a way to do it.

(spikesniper can you make your sig smaller, kinda large)

noooooooooo...i like my sig lol but yeah i can probobly get rid of a few things

He'd learn what to say from Oromis probably or one of the elves, then he'd have to be in close range or else he'd use alot of magic to do so if he was far away.

But please do spike, I hate having to scroll another page because of a sig

Ok, what do you want to talk about Annibee?

I want to talk about the ANCIENT LANGUAGE, which seems to be the topic!!!

During the Blood Oath Celebration, just before the twins Iduna and Nëya do their Dragon Dance, Islanzadi talks to the celebrants and says: "As is our custom, and as was agreed upon at the end of the Dragon War by Queen Tarmunora, the first Eragon and the white dragon who represented his race─he whose name cannot be uttered in this or any language─when they bond the fates of elves and dragons together, we have met to honor our blood-oath with song and dance and the fruits of our labor." Eldest, 466

Why does she say "and the white dragon who represented his race─he whose name cannot be uttered in this or any language─" when Brom told us in Eragon the name of Eragon the first dragon's name was Bid'Daum. (Eragon, 50) I mean, isn't this the same dragon, so what's with this??? Was it a fluke on CP's behalf???

wll I think that the ancient language would force him to do something to attempt to kill galbatorix within the hour..whether he is sucessful or unsuccessful is irrelevant..he'd b forced to cast a spell to kill galbatorix or would be forced to attack galby in some way..Galbatorix would'nt di unless Eragon had more power than him..

n fer Anniebee..well Brom said he dragon's name was Bid'Daum right?
well maybe only he knew of it and now he told Eragon and it has slipped off his mind..maybe the dragon still lives or it's spirit is still alive and it's name is the way to summon it!..maybe that's what makes the Spine so haunted..
otherwise ofcourse Islanzadi could be meaning that it cannot be expressed in the Ancient Language or Dwarvish..but maybe, it can be, in the normal language, and Islanzadi does not know of it..
or might just be a mistake lol

Ummmm, Lethrblakahunter, I think you skipped the part that reads: he whose name cannot be uttered in this or any language─ . That seems to cover ALL the languages!!!

Eragon couldn't say that he would kill Galbatorix without knowing Galbatorix's true name, and that would defeat the purpose.[/list][/code]

the first Eragon's dragon is not the white dragon. The white dragon is the dragon which stood for his race.

and knowing Galby's name would be no fun. 2 easy.

Then what was Eragon's first dragon then? If not the white dragon.

wow....i think im siding with imnc here lol

ok what i think is this:eragon(the first)didnt have bid daum yet

he was the representative of his race becuz he was wise or w/e

the dragon was apearantly brave for agreeing and smart....so maybe that was uncommon with wild dragons...

bid daum comes later after the dragons agree and (probobly) give him the egg

no i think i got it..
well in physics, we see that Blue, Green and Red together make white..so i think dat tht sets a pattern for CP and he's gonna confirm that the first dragon of d riders was white

no. not in physics. in LIGHT. there is also pigments, in which it is the absense of such. but this has nothing to do with the white dragon. and it wasn't the first Eragon's dragon. it has no name, but Eragon #1 named his. it isn't the same dragon.

maybe the white dragon was the eldest dragon at the time of the treaty ie the most powerful dragon at that time..
It might just be a co-incidence, but the pattern is intriguing..I mean white IS formed when RED, BLUE and GREEN mix..

yeah, but it is also funny that in Pokemon, you get a Green (grass), Red (fire), and Blue (water) pokemon to start with! the three colors just go together!!!

lol but still I dont think he's gonna look to Pokemon for inspiration..lol but yea, you do have a point but I still stick to my theory..because it supports another one..Murtagh changes sides..this one is assuming that the green dragon is on the good side..
well Red Green n Blue combine to give White and White fights against Black(Shruikan)..but that's a bit far-fetched

i think it kinda makes sense.....

yea it does..but for that, Murtagh would have to switch over and all 3 would have to fight with Galby AT THE SAME TIME..but then they would easil6y defeat hm and the vault of souls would be useless...

true...ya i guess so...but i still dont think he would be easily defeated, the whole rider organization thing couldnt defeat him, 3 new riders couldnt defeat him easily

they said you can't lie, but they never said you can't change your mind

Yeah you can easily switch things around in the AL to make it look like you've said something but you've actuallly said this instead, especially with elves.

yeah. it was true at the time, so you can chage your mind about something, BUT if you say "i will never make deadly weapons again" you can't ever make deadly weapons.

Exactly and if you do it's going to suck if you have to make a weapon, then you'll regret it so people need to watch out.