That does indeed create a rather amusing mental picture.

lol I love mental pictures...

Anyway, Brom is definately at the top of list... D'OH! We left out Oromis!!

Oromis would be on the list, but I think Brom would definitely be on top.

I think it's a tie. Brom lost his dragon, but oromis could still talk to Glaedr. Brom though, might have a better reason for revenge, which he only knows too well.

But Brom is Eragon's dad. Doesn't that top teacher?

oh yeah, I forgot... hehe sorry. Dad trumps teacher, anyday...

Mainly because teachers give you homework and dads give you ice-cream.
But yea, I think it's a battle between Brom and Arya.

lol brom and ice cream...

brom is so in front of arya anyday of the week and dont u guys realize that eragon would have to find a way to bring someone back from the dead without killing himself

Great... A nother one with no life expreience....
Do you hoastly expect Eragon to choose his father over his love?
While a boy might love his parents a lot it's nothing agiant what you feel towards your love. There is a different relation between the one you have with your parents and with the one you love. Don't think otherwise.
Arya will come before Brom.


yea.... since we are idiots we don't realize that.....
Of course we realize that. And me personal don't think any one can bring back the dead in the IC. The dead are simply dead.

There is no need to get hostile now.
First of all Arya is not Eragon's love. She is his love interest. And it is not a given that you will love your love more so (albeit in a different way from) your parents. It depends on what you have gone through in your life with both (or all three) of them. The love of a parent could be stronger than the love of the one you love.
However Eragon is so pathetic and weak that he would choose Arya even if she doesn't return his love. If she does return his love he'll probably forget about Brom completely, again because he is pathetic and weak.

I don't think so. From what it seemed in the book, he is slowly beginning to realized that arya is still missing Faolin. He was like her first love... kinda.

I still think that brom will be the one he brings back becuase he is his father, and also his first teacher. With glaedr around too, Brom will still kinda have a dragon companion again, if eragon gives the HoH to him for "safekeeping"...

Right! I forgot about Faolin!
Yay for him. Hopefully he can come between Arya and Eragon dead though he may be.

idk about tht kvista its eragon and saphiras duty to protect gleadrs HoH

yeah, true. maybe he will end up bringing faolin back to make arya happy and they will reign over the empire and eragon will leave alagaesia because he has no chance with her, so he and saphira leave forever. it's a thought...

But who's the woman leaving with him then?

Nasuada, duh. Don't play oblivious to her crush on Eragon

I say another DR. IDK why.

Wouldn't that only work if Arya wasn't a dragon rider?

You guys (and girls, if there is any) can hope ^^
But you will be dispointed if you expect that Eragon will leave with a nother woman other than Arya ^^ He has alredy said that Arya is the only woman he ever has been with. And as for Fäolin Arya has only said that they was friends and companions for many years. You may personal think that there was something more but that is nothing important.
Because facts is the only thing that matters. Not dreams.

Arya looked at him. Eragon met her gaze, and something lurched within him. He flushed without knowing why, feeling a sudden connection with her, a sense that she understood him better than anyone other than Saphira. His reaction confused him, for no one had affected him in that manner before.

Throughout the rest of the day, all Eragon had to do was think back on that moment to make himself smile and set his insides churning with a mixture of odd sensations he could not identify.
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"An ache formed in his chest as he listened to the gentle rise and fall of Arya's breathing. It tormented him to be so close and yet be unable to approach her."
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"Well, be that as it may, these are reasons you give me, Eragon, and the heart rarely listens to reason. Do you fancy her or not?"
If he fancied her any more, Saphira said to both Eragon and Roran, I'd be trying to kiss Arya myself.
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"With a sigh of impatience, she tapped her bodice. "A dress is somewhat breezier than a pair of leggings, Eragon."
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You should tend to that before we set forth." She gave him no time to respond but grasped his paralyzed fingers and said, "Waise heill." An involuntary groan escaped him as his fingers popped back into their sockes, and his abraded tendons and crushed cartilage regained the fullness of their proper shapes, and as the flaps of skin hanging from his knuckles again covered the raw flesh below.
"Thank you," he said. It surprised him that she had taken the initiative when he was perfectly capable of healing his own wounds. Arya seemed embarrassed. Looking away, out over the plains, she said, "I am glad you were by my side today, Eragon."
"And you by mine."
She favored him with a quick, uncertain smile. They lingered on the hillock for another minute, neither of them eager to resume their journey.
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She gave him a wan smile. "And then you came, Eragon. You and Saphira. After hope had deserted me and I was about to be taken to Galbatorix in Uru'baen, a Rider appeared to rescue me. A Rider and dragon!"
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"Reaching out, Eragon placed his right hand over her left. "The stories about the heroes of old never mention that this is the price you pay when you grapple with the monsters of the dark and the monsters of the mind. Keep thinking about the gardens of Tialdari Hall, and I'm sure you will be fine." Arya permitted the contact between them to endure for almost a minute, a time not of heat or passion for Eragon, but rather of quiet companionship.
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He cherished her trust more than anything besides his bond with Saphira and he would sooner march into battle than endanger it."
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"Satisfied with what he had wrought, he handed the lily to Arya. "It's not a white rose but..." He smiled and shrugged. "You should not have," she said. "But I am glad you did." She caressed the underside of the blossom and lifted it to smell. The lines on her face eased. For several minutes, she admired the lily."
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"She spoke to Arya with the same tone of affection that, until then, she had reserved for Eragon, as if she now considered Arua part of their small family and worthy of the same regard and intimacy as they shared."
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"Walking over to Saphira, Arya placed a hand on Eragon's left leg and looked up at him with her slanted green eyes. "Accept this from me, Shur'tugal," she said. And he felt a surge of energy flow into him.
"Eka elrun ono," he murmured to her.
Also in the ancient language, she said, "Be careful, Eragon. I would not want to see you broken by Murtagh. I..." It seemed as if she were going to say more, but she hesitated, then removed her hand from his leg and retreated to stand by Blödhgarm."
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"You should not abandon your guards so lightly," Arya murmured in Eragon's left ear. She wrapped her sword arm around his waist and held him tightly as Saphira wheeled above the courtyard."
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"Better?" he asked as the spell finished its work.
"Better," Arya whispered, and favored him with a weak smile."
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"Arya staggered as if she had been hit. "Ah," she said. She gripped the back of the chair so hard, her knuckles turned white. Tears filled her slanted eyes, then spilled over onto her cheeks and coursed down her face. "Eragon." She reached out and grasped his shoulder, and almost by accident, he found himself holding her in his arms."

Those actions speaks for them self. And so does CP.

CP: And one of the nice things about their (Roran and Katrina's) relationship is when the series begins and when we first start seeing scenes from Roran's point of view in Eldest, he's already courted Katrina, he's already won Katrina and we don't need to see them going through that. They already have a relationship. Of course when he rescues her then in this book (Brisingr), it's just sort of a confirmation of what they both already knew. So I get to show a kind of different relationship with them then exists between say, Eragon and Arya, who are just sort of dancing around each other.

Arya obvious has feelings for Eragon. No matter what she thought of Fäolin the fact remainst that he is dead and she and Eragon is not.

More on topic Brom did say in Eragon that the dead simply are dead.
Why dicuse who Eragon will bring back when he can't bring back any one?
And I don't think that CP will bring brom back since the memory he left to Eragon through Saphira in Brisingr
Seems pointless if he would come back.




@Rider Of Death: But who's the woman leaving with him then?

He watched as a group of people on proud horses approached a lonely river. Many had silver hair and carried tall lances. A strange, fair ship waited for them, shining under a bright moon. The figures slowly boarded the vessel; two of them, taller than the rest walked arm and arm. Their faces were obscured by cowls, but he could tell that one was a woman. They stood on the deck of the ship and faced the shore. A man stood on the pebble beach, the only one who had not boarded the ship. He threw back his head and let out a long, aching cry. As it faded, the ship glided down the river, without a breeze or oars, out in the flat, empty land. The vision clouded, but just before it disappeared, Eragon glimpsed two dragons in the sky.

Two elves who obvious are dragon riders. I wonder who they can be........
Take a guess.

In that whole long post you have done nothing but once again established that CP is trying to get the two together. We all know this.The point we're trying to argue is that the love of a father could be stronger than the love of a lover. We know (obviously) that Eragon is attracted to Arya, and we know that Arya is starting to feel the same way. That is all. It has nothing to do with the discussion.
I found the fact that you said it doesn't matter what she thought of Faolin because he is dead rather amusing. If she was in fact in love with him (which the book seems to hint at) and she forgot about him about a year later, then Eragon could do the same with her.
Also, if it is pointless to bring Brom back how much more pointless is it to bring Arya back? If she dies in book 4 only to be revived that would be pretty dumb.

It doesn't say the two are elves and it doesn't say the dragons are theirs. Also, who is the man on the beach who lets out a long aching cry? Another way to interpret this is that Arya is leaving with someone else and Eragon is left on the beach crying out in anguish.

Really? Your posts says other wise.













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attracted? He loves her. As he has said.
And even Saphira knows so.

"Well, be that as it may, these are reasons you give me, Eragon, and the heart rarely listens to reason. Do you fancy her or not?"
If he fancied her any more, Saphira said to both Eragon and Roran, I'd be trying to kiss Arya myself.


Oh, but it does. Brom is his father. He would have the rolle of being a father and teacher. With Arya on the other hand he can get what he want.
A family of his own. Would you throw away your love and your hope to have kids and to have a family to save your father? His future is with Arya. Brom is his past and blod.


Why? Lets say that she did love him.
She loves two persons then. One of them is dead and the othe rone is alive. Who would you go after?


define love. She could feel what she feel for Eragon right now with Fäolin.
They wasn't mates. They where friends and companions. As she said.
But I agree that Arya had feelings for Fäolin above just friendship. However they wasn't mates.

And it wouldn't be the same for Eragon since he clearly has said that Arya is the ONLY one he wants to be with.


Acctually no. Eragon is domed to leave Alagesia. And in the dream we saw that he left with a woman.



He watched as a group of people on proud horses approached a lonely river. Many had silver hair and carried tall lances. A strange, fair ship waited for them, shining under a bright moon.
Remember who had the proud horses in Eldest? The elves.
Silver hair? The elves only has black and silver hair. Nut the humnas or the dwarfs

The figures slowly boarded the vessel; two of them, taller than the rest walked arm and arm.[i]

No humans nor dwarfs could possible be taller than the elves.


[i]Their faces were obscured by cowls, but he could tell that one was a woman. They stood on the deck of the ship and faced the shore. A man stood on the pebble beach, the only one who had not boarded the ship. He threw back his head and let out a long, aching cry. As it faded, the ship glided down the river, without a breeze or oars, out in the flat, empty land. The vision clouded, but just before it disappeared, Eragon glimpsed two dragons in the sky.

Notice that is says man and not an elf. My guess is Roran. It could be Murtagh if he survives tho.

And two dragons? How many elven riders do we have?
And am I the only one who smells the lotr ending here with the elves?


Do you honastly belive that your self?
Arya isn't close to any one expect Eragon and Saphira.

I strongly believe that it is arya.

but brom I think is coming back from the dead.

same here but i think eragon will bring back blood b4 lover

I'm pretty sure you know what I meant here.



That bold part sort of make it seem eragon is using Arya to get what he wants doesn't it?
I see what you mean here, but the fact is that Eragon at the moment thinks that Arya still doesn't love him. What little relationship they've had so far has been one between friends and supporters, not lovers, and book four seems a short space for them to move on to being mates. So if Arya does die I doubt that she and eraagon will have gotten to this stage, and if at that point Eragon still brings her back we will see just how pathetic he really is.
Also, we have already seen that Eragon is intensely interested in his past. If he could bring someone back I think the main contenders would be brom and selena if he wasn't such a sad character whose only hope for a happy life is an elf who doesn't even love him.




This would be a good point if she loved Eragon. And even if/when she comes to that point her previous love of Faolin will come between them.




So what? What does it matter about them not being mates? Neither are Arya and Eragon, and hopefully they never will be.
And if you'll notice Arya does not feel the same way towards eragon that eragon feels towards her. This is just eragon once again showing how epically pathetic he is.



...That doesn't change the fact that it would be pointless to bring her back at all...
And we never saw that it was Eragon leaving. I could be something completely different.



First point: And that means what? That just means elves are leading them to the ships. Hmm...

Second point: Of course no humans or dwarves could be taller than elves. If you'll notice though, eragon is not an elf, nor did his transformation affect his height. So either he has to go through a mega growth spurt, or it isn't him leaving.

Third point: Yea, it says a man, not an elf. Eragon is not a man. And why would Roran be randomly screaming just because a couple elves are leaving Alagaisia. Even if the 'elf' is eragon Roran would not be screaming in anguish.

Fourth point: We don't have two elven dragon riders. We don't even have one.

Fifth point: I do! And it is another example of CP's cliched unoriginality. Notice that? It's unoriginality that is unoriginal. Just like everything that is happening so far.

I honastly wasn't sure. I have meet many Arya haters who for some reason tries to convince them self that eragon dosn't love Arya.
It is hard to guess what you mean over internet. I could only take it for what you wrote =/ But I'm sorry.


But that is my point. He does WANT Arya. He does WANT a family of his own. Why would he then choose Brom?


But he loves her. And that makes the difference.
And as he said him self, he refused to give up on her.


I can say the same about Brom and Eragon
The difference is that Eragon can have a future with Arya.


I disagree. In Brisingr Eragon and Aryas relation moved on to the state above just friendship. In 3 books they havn't goten together yet. So it does kind of smell that it will be in the fourth since eragon will have an epic romance at all. That is if not Angela suddenly would be wrong in one thing while she has been correct with everything else so far.


But here is also one of the things I disagree on. Not matter who dies, I don't think that Eragon CAN bring them back. He asked brom about that in Eragon. And brom said that the dead was dead.
I don't think any one will return back to being alive. At most he might will se a ghost/spirit of one of them. or meet them in a nother place. Just like harry did with Dombledore in DH.


but I refuse to belive that he would give up his future to let go of some questions about his past. Brom is his blood and past. The answer to many questions as well. But thats it. His future lies with Arya.


You say that she dosn't love him, but still you have admit that they will get together? What kind of relationship do you think they will have?
And do you expect that Arya would die in the first 3 chapters?
I my self is sure that Arya will survive the war. And that Eragon CAN'T bring any one back.



She alredy does, but not as a lover. You love your friends in one wat you know. And Eragon & Arya alredy has something above just a friendship.


What makes you think that? The only thing we know for sure is that they was friends and companions. But he is also dead. Eragon is taking the place in Arya heart. As we saw in Brisingr Arya does value eragon above just a simple friend.

And even CP said that book IV will continue Saphira, Eragon and Aryas adventures. It's the 3 of them. You know what CP is planing between AxE.
I can even once agian quote where CP confirms it if you want.


It does. becuase then Arya and Fäolin would be where Eragon and Arya is now. The difference is that Eragon is alive.


I know you don't like that idea of AxE (I can't remeber why tho)
but you know just as well as I that it will happen. As I said above I can quote agian what CP said


While I agree on that part that Eragon is kind of pathetic, I would like to point out that Arya dosn't love Eragon as a lover yet.
She loves him above just as a friend. And the fourth book will probably take the time over a long period ^^ At least 6 months. You know just as well as I that CP will bring them together


It does. How would he else be leaving with? He dosn't love any one else.


Okey.... It was eragons dream. Who else would he be dreaming of? Who else has been doomed to leave Alagesia? Who else would leave with the elves and two dragons? Who else would Eragon dream of?
it only make sence that it would be Eragon.


It was quite obvious that the two person boarding the ship was elves.


I do remeber that he said that looked like an elf. Not that he looked like an elf but was shorter. If he was transformed into looking like an elf and the fact that he does so as well does include his hight since that is a part of his aperance. No?


You are right. Roran would be laughing that his last family member/brother/the guy he grew up with/the guy who rescued his wife/the guy who consecrated them/the guy who saved Alagesia, leting them live in peace. Why would Roran miss Eragon? I would probably be laughing as well...........


We do have a rider who looks like an elf and every thing pointing towards that the third rider would be an elf. Does that explain it?


hehe
Well.... we shouldn't be to hard with CP. he was only 15 when he wrote Eragon He has improved since that. ^^

I didn't realize I wrote that much.
I'm gonna respond quote by quote here...

No need to apologize. I just meant that I didn't have to reply to what you said there.

This next one was not serious at all. I forgot to make using bold.

While he should have said, "I refuse to let her constant rebuffing phase me in the slightest and determine to keep nagging her about our love 'destiny'."

All of your next ones I have already stated my opinions on, but I have one question. What stage is just above friendship but not at lover?

About the transformation changing his height, it hasn't done so yet, so as I said he needs a major growth spurt. Also, the book made it seem like the transformation was a final thing. It doesn't show that he is still transforming. Thus, the growth spurt would be unrelated to the transformation.

Of course Roran would be sad, but my point is that he wouldn't be screaming in anguish.

Also, I agree that as a writer CP has improved.

It just seems much since I quoted you to much xD


Ok


lol


Well. That is the matter of an opinion ^^


Well trying to explain their I would go like this.
They trust and compleat eachothers and they have this special connection.
They understand eacothers better than any one else. (expect for Eragon and Saphira) They are simply not just some freinds who hang out in the free time. The fight along eachothers and are puting their lives in the their hands. Thet value eachothers more than just a friend. They need eacothers more than just a friend.
And looking at their feelings we alredy know that Eragon loves Arya.
Looking at Arya she would be a biit confused I guess. Seeing her gestures in Brisingr we know that there is more than just friendship she feels towards him. However I don't think if she is sure about those feelings yet and if she should act on them.

They are much more than just friends, but they are not together yet.
I hop you understod what I mean =/


It was said that he looked like an elf. Not a short elf.
I admitt that we don't know how tall he is since no one has said it, so it's the matter of an opinion. But mine is that since he was changed to look like an elf and no one has said that he is shorter than one. So I do include the height since it is a part of him.


Anguish is also pain. You would be in pain if some one you loved left for ever. And maybe he also did something?


It's going on the right way ^^

I still think it's going to be either brom or oromis, or now that i think about it, maybe Galby's old dragon, so that Galby will realize the mistakes he made and maybe try to make amends... it's a long stretch, but it could happen...

@The Librarian: I guess they're sort of comrade-friend types then huh?
@Kvista: I'd rule out Oromis right away. With Brom and possibly Arya waiting in line I doubt he would go for his tutor.
Galby's dragon might work but only if there is no hope left. Then he'd do self sacrifice by not bringing back one of his loved ones and instead save the world bladibladibla.

yeah, I guess you're right...

But brom is my first thought.

i am of the same oppion RoD and i really hope its brom if he does bring someone back from the dead

It looks like Brom is very popular here. However, the only reason I'm going for him is that if Eragon is able to bring someone back I doubt Arya will have been dead by then. I have to admit that if Arya was dead CP would probably make Eragon bring her back. It's just how things are looking.

And I fully agree ^^
However I still don't think that Eragon can bring any one back.
Brom said in Eragon that the dead was dead.

If CP wants to head in the direction of bringing someone back though, I doubt he'd give much thought to what he made Brom say.

yes but i doubt that will happen even the elves dont dare to bring someone back from the dead and they are much more powerful then eragon anyday of the week

Which is why the only possible way he'd be able to bring anyone back is if the Vault of Souls has the power to bring someone back. If it doesn't we won't be seeing anyone, not Arya, Brom, or Oromis, coming back to life.

I agree. Except of course maybe the first eragon. But that idea has been abandoned ages ago.
I think it's pretty safe to say that no one is going to be raised from the dead and Arya will not die.
Oromis' sword wouldn't be able to do much against Galby. Although against Murtagh it would do quite well. Oromis would have beaten him if it hadn't been for Galbatorix's interference.

gomenesigh is right. Brom or not, any human would be to weak.
Even if CP can do anything he wants, I don't think Eragon can bring any one back. There is no point of being dead or dying if you can live again.

Any elf would be too weak. Except one or two.
I agree. I'm just saying it's possible for CP to want to bring someone back.

gomenesigh is right. It would be to much "God" powers to let Eragon bring back the dead. We might see Brom in something close to what happen with Harry and Dombledore in HP&DH. But nothing more.

If he's holding peoples existence in his hands then there is no point to this topic as he could bring back everyone he wanted to. The thing is that if he could bring someone back it would only be one person.

Because I think that if he could bring someone back it would only b because of the VOS and I think it would only be possible to bring back one person that way. After all, there has to be a limit on something that powerful right?

But who says that there will be a limit? And waht says that the limit would be 1? And what says that Eragon can shooce who to bring back?
And waht says that no one evern can bring back the dead?

If there was no limit that would be pretty stupid and overpowering.

One is the most logical. Why would it be two or three? Just so CP can bring back everyone who has died in the series? Not that smart.

What's the point of eragon going to the VOS and then not being able to choose who he brings back? And who would choose? If the VOS randomely chooses then who knows? We could get some limbless blindman to help eragon.

I don't understand the last one...

The last one was that how we could know that we can bring any one back at all? Nothing points to it.

And the point with Eragon going to the RoK is so he can get help with deafeating galby. But that help dosn't mean that it has to be bringin eny one back to life. It can be many things. I stand for that the dead are dead just as Brom said. We might see them in a similar way to how harry saw Dumbeldore in DH.

Especially not Arya.
And I get that he probably won't bring anyone back to life, but at the moment that is the best option.
And there is one dragon rider who could in fact beat Galby. But he will not be coming back. That isn't debatable. (if you don't know who i'm talking about there's something wrong...)

I still think that it will be brom, hands down. He was his father, and he still has so many questions to ask. Oromis is second on my list, but remember that Glaedr is still alive, so he may not need him to come back. oromis and glaedr were so in tuned with eachother that glaedr would probably know what oromis would say if he wanted to. However, oromis may want to come back so that they can be together again, because they have been together for hundreds of years. Selena is third on my list becaus she was his mother, but was also Murtagh's mother, but she might know secrets about Galbatorix that no one else knows. that's my reasoning.

I'd put Selena before Oromis simply because if Brom (eagon's dad) is above Arya (eragon's love interest) then I think Selena (eragon's mom) would be above eragon's teacher/tutor.

Solembum is the one who suggested it in the first place so eragon is probably going to ask him first for answers.

Why in hell would Eragon choose his past (Brom) to get the answes to a few questions instead of his future and love? It make no sence at all.
The best he can get with Brom is a few answers and som father/son time.
And he is suposed to grow up as well. You grow away from you parents.
With Arya lies his future with a mate and children. There is no way that Eragon would pick Brom infront of Arya if he dosn't get even more stupid than waht he is now. It's called logic thinking.

Point and set.



Why not? It make no sence at all that he wouldn't take the person he wants to bring back.


As you said. he was. But only when he had Saphira. When we saw him in Eragon, he was weak. While he is still bright and smart he lack to much in strenght, speed, magic and power.


This is where you are wrong. While Brom still is one of the brighter people, he is still way to weak. In the matter of helping Eragon against galby we have alredy seen that Eragon and Arya makes a better team than any one else in the IC. Both with galby and with the future Arya is the logical choice. No matter what you personaly think of Arya.

If he could, he would obviusly take both. I however don't think that he or any one else can bring back the dead. We where simply discusing wich one he would choose if he only could bring back one, if he could bring back any one from the dead.

Yea.... that does seems a little bit unnecessary now when I think of it....

This just keeps getting better.......
So... He will not just come back from the dead, but he will also get a power boost. But why stop there? Can't we also give him Saphira back?
And make him stronger than galby through some awesome magic?


This is where you are wrong. Without Saphira Brom is just a human who can do magic. When Saphira hatched for Eragon, didn't get the strenght and speed of an elf. And neither did Brom. If he gets his health and strenght back, he would only be a strong human. And Brom him self said that even the weakest elf could win over the strongest human.
Brom would never stand a chance against Arya or any other elf.
And the fact reamains that Arya and Eragon still makes the best team in Alagesia.

Actually, now that i think about it, I don'[t really care about who he brings back, just as long as he ends up leaving with arya in the end...

No, but you did say that Brom would be stronger than Arya without Saphira when he couldn't. The sarcasm in the begining was about that he would come back alive and then two post later you also said that his age would some how randomly decrease and make him younger. You added something so unlikely that I had to point it out.

But I do am sorry. I kind of use sarcasm when I get anoyed at a post.
Nothing personal tho

And the point remains that brom wouldn't stand a chance against Arya without Saphira. That and the fact that Arya and Eragon would make a much better team than Eragon and Brom.

Didn't Brom kill Morzan and his dragon who are much more powerful than Arya? Morzan probably had a couple Eldunari as well. Because of this Brom is probably much more powerful than Arya. So I think that Brom would stand a pretty good chance against Arya.

Brom did kill Morzan and many other of the Forsworn as well. But as CP has said it was never about power and strentgh. In that Brom would never stand a chance. He outsmarted and tricked the Forsworn. Morzan as well.
Brom won because he used his head. And Morzan was never know for being the brigh one either. Broms power lies in using the head. He was good at finding his enemys weaknes.

So no. In power, strengh and magic Arya and any other lef would win over Brom. Just as he said to Eragon.

They are only stronger than the human riders.


As I said. Only stronger than human riders.


It does. And even when he had Saphira he was stil a human. A human dragon rider.


In knowledge yes. In power no. As CP has said the riders where stronger in magic because of their dragons who could lean the energy. A rider and his dragon has together more energy than any other.


Not even for a human. It took Eragon around one month to beat him witch no training at all before that. And as CP has said, Broms power laid by using his head.


And this is whereyou are wrong. Human riders would after some time gain the look and ears of an elf. Not randomly gain the power and speed of a nother race the aren't connected with. And Brom lost his Saphira when he was quite young. He never had the time to gain the look nor ears.


Of course there would be a point. A human rider isn't alone. He/she has his/her dragon. That humans where weaker wasn't a problem.


Brom did outsmarted many of the Forsworn.
but yes i do. Before Eragon was transformed into an half elf and gaind the strenght and speed, Roran could have kicked his as any time. If we look only at power. Eragon would win if he was alowed to use magic or Saphira.
Eragons bounding with Saphira made it posible for him to do magic as well as he has her to fuel energy. It didn't gave him any super powers as we saw in Eragon.

Eragon was only given his "powers" at the blood oath celebration, but that doesn't mean that it hadn't happened before. Eragon leardned a lot from Brom, and he still had a lot to teach him before he was killed.

Eragon did learn a lot from Brom and he could have learnd even more yes.
But the thing is that Eragon did learn what Brom would have learnd him and even more. Even tho Brom had done many great things, it was after he lost Saphira. Brom was still a student dragon rider when Saphira died. He only knew what he was told. Oromis as an elder and teacher knew and learned Eragon much more about the riders, power, magic and every thing else.

What Brom could told Eragonn was more about him self. And that wouldn't help to kill Galby. Unless they told the story for him so he got so bored that he comited suicide.

it would make everything so much easier if galby killed himself... lol

Eragon could bring Faolin back to please Arya. Or he might bring back Brom or Oromis.

What do you think?

To do that for arya would really show his love for her. it's a good idea.

Your right.

Eragon is most likely to bring Brom back, or Arya, if she dies.

He could also maybe bring back the soul of another dragon, like Galby's old dragon and use it to either dethrone him or kill him, or somethign worse.

I think kvista's idea is a good one... but maybe Eragon will bring back Oromis?

If Shruikan dies Eragon might bring him back and give him a name and everything... or he might bring back more dragons?

What do you think?

I don't think he would bring back Shruikan, but he could bring back more dragons, that's as long as he can bring back more souls than just one.

In book four Eragon might be a stronger magician and with the help of twelve spellcasters (and if he does beat Galby) he probably might be able to bring back all the dragons.

Remember that Brom's body will be peserved for all time? at least that's what Saphira states. Maybe that's some forshadowing, Why would eragon bring back a corpse when he could bring back Brom?

He might bring back Brom, but he might not be the same as he was before. The dragons though are nearly extinct from Alagasia and if Eragon brung them back there would be more of them.