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Post New powerful foe thats likes to laugh?????
Anyboudy have ANY idea what this could mean? im sorry if this topic is already posted, I didnt look more than 1 page. It was on Paolinis "spoiler" interview. I personally dont thing the are spoilers, they give you more to think about. Any ideas what/who it could be??

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Post Re: New powerful foe thats likes to laugh?????
I was intrieged by this spoiler when Christopher Paolini gave it out; I do not think any past character of the cycle has "liked to laugh" so we can probably assume it is a new character to all the books. I think it could be a member of a new race/species, or maybe someone we have heard of YET NOT seen in the books before. Gosh, these spoliers just make me want to read that book faster!

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Well he already said it was a new charactor, we dont need to guess that. They might be a species like the Razzac or something, who knows?

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Maybe its the god CP mentoined.

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Hmmm, a link between the spoilers? Thats very possible.

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its our best idea so far.... any other ideas?

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It could be another shade or something... Or another betrayal. It could be on purpose, or not willing like Murtagh. Its obviously going to be a powerful charactor, so it cant be something minor, like a dwarf or a non-rider human. Or it could be someone from King Palancars homeland, thats where the Raz'zac came from...

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it couldn't be betrayal because CP said a new charry it probably won't be a shade because he allready killed one.... maybe a new species?

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Like what i mentioned about King Palancar's homeland.

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Like what i mentioned about King Palancar's homeland.

exactly but is the god idea better or in the new speacies the best idea?

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I dont know. Yet again, we need someone elses opinion. We have a lot of topics where it is jsut us, so we dont get a variety of thoughts.

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I dont know. Yet again, we need someone elses opinion. We have a lot of topics where it is jsut us, so we dont get a variety of thoughts.

for once i agree cus this is getting boring lol

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So if you are viewing this topic, please respond.

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I guess nobodys reading this topic.....

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Well have to wait. IF YOU ARE READING THIS POST A REPLY FOR A NEW OPINION!

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Capitals will scare them off because it sounds like you are angry

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I don't know about this new enemy, I admit it does sound a bit tacky.

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Define tacky in this situation.. by the way thanks for someone else posting.

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maybe he's just some crazy mad man. mad men are almost always dangerous and they normaly laugh a lot so why not?

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Hmmm. But if hes not a rider, I doubt he would be that powerful. Definitly he wouldnt be a threat to Eragon, who could eliminate him at ease. I dont think it would be just some random madman.

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i wasn't saying some "random" madman but then for all we know he could be a hyenia. but maybe some he's just some great magic user that lost his mind ya know?

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Possible. If he was that great though, how would he have lost his mind? And why would he side with Galby, or againt Eragon? He could actually be againt both of them, he could be against everyone.

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power corupts, total power croupts totaly. many a person has lost thier mind to power and many more seeking it and normaly madmen with power seek those with more power...

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i dón't know, that could be a possibility but i like the idea of the connection between the spoilers that seems interesting but the first spoiler said that eragon will meet a god does that mean then the god is the enemy, wow i am so slow!!!!!!lol

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i dón't know, that could be a possibility but i like the idea of the connection between the spoilers that seems interesting but the first spoiler said that eragon will meet a god does that mean then the god is the enemy, wow i am so slow!!!!!!lol

i like the connection one too it makes the most sense....

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But this guy is an enemy, the God isnt neccesarily. He said he meets a God, not fights one( although he could have meant that ). Theres still a good chance it could be something like the Raz'zac.

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But this guy is an enemy, the God isnt neccesarily. He said he meets a God, not fights one( although he could have meant that ). Theres still a good chance it could be something like the Raz'zac.

Yes I realise that im just saying I still like the first idea the best.

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Whichever it is it will be important. I personally think he released two different things. Both of them are pretty likely, any other ideas?

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lol, it might be Selena or someone he meets in the vault of souls, Faolin to laugh cause he is back to life and is a foe cause he wants to kill off Eragon for hitting on her lol

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it might happen but the least likely so far i think.

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Why would it be Selena? She would be giving Eragon advice and stuff, she would be on his side. Maybe trianna tries summoning a spirit too strong and becomes a shade or something...

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well we are just thinking out of the box :D

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How about this: Galbatorix wanted to find a weakness that could destroy Eragon so he placed dark and twisted spells over Selena and sent her off to fight Eragon. But Eragon has no crave to fight his own mother because it all revolves around the "family" thing. Selena has no care though because she is under dark magic. Yet Eragon wont fight cause its his mum. There you go, a new villian. Why she likes to laugh?...Er...She just got a free manicure session with Galby... 8)

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lol thats funny! not the most realistic but good open minded idea

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Yeah that is really clever. But Its probably going to be a new charactor, because its POWERFUL. Also, if someone could be powerful just because galby used dark magic on them, hed do it to the entire army so they would be super strong and would crush the Varden.

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Why shouldn't Selena be powerful? And even Galby has his limits with magic, I never expected him to fuel his entire army. Anyway, Selena could've always been really powerful but Galby was just a little more stronger and twisted her mind to work for him, like he did to Shruikan.

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Or liek you mentioned in another topic, it could be sloan. He was a pretty good fighter, and he was kind of crazy. That would take care of the laughing part, but im not sure if hes powerful enough.

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Yes I have sprouted doubts too. Sloan really isn't strong enough is he? Well, maybe he will find the vault of souls and somehow use major strength from his deceased wife to become stronger...

Wait hang on!!!

We have forgotten all about Shades haven't we? There is nothing in the road to stop Sloan becoming a Shade. But still you could say that he still has no liking for the Empire...hmm...and I thought I solved it too...

Take a deep breath please *pauses for breath* Thankyou :D

This is Sloan: He is still angry at the Ra'zac for filching his daughter and Roran for marrying her. He has no possible way of getting revenge on both because the Ra'zac are too strong and Roran has Eragon (which he soon learns). Galby though, somehow confronts him and makes him an offer to become a Shade so he can have revenge on Roran. Now there are 2 possiblities here.
#1: He ignores what the Ra'zac have done to his broken family and fights alongside them against the Varden.
#2: Galby and he make a treaty that if Sloan joins the Empire, then he CAN get revenge on the Ra'zac and Roran in any foul way he wants. Galby is going to replace the Ra'zac because he would much rather have a more powerful Shade. (Remember, he has turned against his allies before - the urgals - so why wouldn't he do it again? He has a ravenous desire for power....)


Now the only thing which leaks through my brain blast at the moment and upsets it, is that I don't remeber CP's exact words. Did he say that Eragon was going to meet a totally new person or just a new foe...?

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He said he will meet a new and powerful foe who likes to laugh i think. Thats decently possible, and yes we already mentioned shades. Explain though, because sloan cant use magic last time I checked...

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Oh ok, so the Shade thing has been sorted. But Sloan doesn't have to use magic yet. Durza was a human too. He just needs to have the magic cast upon him for all the spirits to enter his body and transform him into a Shade. Then he can use magic.

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But durza was a sorcerer, remember? He tried to cast a spell to big for him when Haig died, and turned into a shade.

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Theres always a beginning to become a Sorcerer though.... Why not Sloan? He may not have the appearance of a powerful foe being a little, quirky bald man but he might gain that when he becmes a Shade (if that is what was holding most of you back anyway)

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Silvers right If sloan knows magic and katrina dies it might create the same effect as durza. However there allready has been a shade and so the likelyness of that happening drop.

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How would he learn magic though? no one would have any inclination to teach him..

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Who knows. Sloan is a mysterious charicter. Maybe the razac teach him. Or take hime to galby and galby teaches him. Or murtagh teaches him. There are possibilitys.

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xwon3 wrote:
Who knows. Sloan is a mysterious charicter. Maybe the razac teach him. Or take hime to galby and galby teaches him. Or murtagh teaches him. There are possibilitys.


Sooo I was searching for the thing birds have instead of mouth and I'm not sure what expression is right (beak, bill, snout, neb, nib, pecker :shock: ), luckily it doesnt matter.
Point is: Have you ever tryed to learn from something with that ...bird thing? Because I have bad feeling that Raz'zac and Sloan could have quiet a few problem with conversation. Galby probably doesnt care about Sloan, u know it awesome to have butcher in your army, it's even better when it's magical butcher but I guess there are many butchers in Empire why would be Galby waiting for Sloan? :wink: Same goes for Murthag...

Angela likes to smile and she's is master of deception and treachery, haha go Angela go you are my favourite villain! :twisted:

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angela is a villan?? what???

anyways your right about the razack they don't even know magic it didn't occur to me at the time.

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xwon3 wrote:
angela is a villan?? what???


Not yet but she might be in future :P

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I have to say, I disagree with pretty much everything that has been posted so far!!!! First of all, it seems that everyone is forgetting the actual wording of the "spoiler" that CP released:

Eragon will meet a terrifying new enemy; one who likes to laugh a lot, but not in a good

What I think everyone is overlooking is the laughs, but not in a good way and the new enemy parts. So, basically it has to be a new character. It just doesn't make sense otherwise. Also, you guys are saying he or she has to be a madman because he laughs. I don't think that's true. He/she is probably perfectly sane and something completely new. I doubt it will be another shade. That's been done already. It is really unlikely to be Sloan. We've met him already, he doesn't seem powerful at all, and it wouldn't really be all that interesting! I have no idea who or what this enemy will be, but I don't think anyone has come close to figuring it out yet! So far, I haven't seen any interesting theories. I'll try to think of something!

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Yeah, I guess Angela could changes sides but I doubt it!

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I have to say, I disagree with pretty much everything that has been posted so far!!!! First of all, it seems that everyone is forgetting the actual wording of the "spoiler" that CP released:

Eragon will meet a terrifying new enemy; one who likes to laugh a lot, but not in a good

What I think everyone is overlooking is the laughs, but not in a good way and the new enemy parts. So, basically it has to be a new character. It just doesn't make sense otherwise. Also, you guys are saying he or she has to be a madman because he laughs. I don't think that's true. He/she is probably perfectly sane and something completely new. I doubt it will be another shade. That's been done already. It is really unlikely to be Sloan. We've met him already, he doesn't seem powerful at all, and it wouldn't really be all that interesting! I have no idea who or what this enemy will be, but I don't think anyone has come close to figuring it out yet! So far, I haven't seen any interesting theories. I'll try to think of something!


true, but how do you know what CP really meant? maybe he didn't mean a new character at all, because he only said a new enemy. it doesn't have to be a new character to turn into a new enemy, because if the old character wasn't a new enemy before but suddenly turned into one, I'm pretty sure he would be considered a new enemy, not an old enemy.

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True, he/she would be considered a new enemy if you look at it that way. But first of all, none of the characters we know of seem to fit the description. Or seem like they could be changed enough to fit the description. All the powerful characters are already dedicated to a side. It would be too hard for CP to change that without ruining stuff. Second, it just doesn't seem like CP's style. To me, anyways! He likes to add in new characters and make things more complicated for Eragon at every step of his journey. I just can't imagine any of the old characters in that role.

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well if it is that way, then you can't blame people for not being able to think of any new characters. if it's someone brand new, then how are we supposed to know who it's going to be? it could be absolutely anyone or anything.

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i agree with redshurtugal, i dont think its someone completely new i think its an old character turned bad
i like the idea of it being sloan. Silverwolf has a good theory on that!

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ehh...I still think it will be a new character! I'm sticking with that!

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what if its a dwarf ???

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here's a random idea for ya......if the new enemy is an old character gone bad, what if its elva. mabye when eragon goes to take his spell off her something happens. that kind of thing seems to happen to him a lot :lol: :lol:


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it could be the 'god' that eragon meets

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Hmmm...a rather terrifying foe that likes to laugh...*flicks through Eldest*

I think maybe it's someone who's played a minor role in Eragon and Eldest? Someone easy to overlook, but a little too major to forget? I think there'll be clues though...we've just got to find them.

If it's a completely new character, we can't guess. But I'd say their personality is very...uh...confident, seeing the laughter. Maybe even over-confident? And maybe he should be someone really skilled in magic like...*lightbulb appears*...GALBY'S BROTHER! No wait, that's a stupid idea...*sigh*

Well, I don't know. If I've got more ideas, I'll post them up ^^

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