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Rien.1234
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 Will we ever learn all of Brom's secrets??????
In the book Eragon we learn little of Brom. In Eldest we learn that he looked up to Morzan and were he came from, but i think the to biggest things we have learnd about him is that he knew Eragons mother and he had some sort of secret love. There is also the words he tought Eragon. And I know Saphira knows EVERYTHING about Brom now, (at least the important stuff) but she can't tell Eragon untill he is able to handle the information. But the point is I think the biggest secret of Brom (this is only a guess) is Eragon's father.
Most of the facts support it for one why whould Brom stay in Carvahall? of all the places why there if not to watch over his son. The second reason is why whould he answer all of Eragon questions if he was Morzans son (he would have known). Third why whould Saphira hatch for any one but one who is the offspring of one so powerful. And last Brom said he knew Eragons mother so does that mean there relationship could not be like that. Correct me if I am wrong on anything please.
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May 9th, 2007, 2:24 pm |
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we will moslt likly get most of them but there might be a few still to be revealed that never are.
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May 9th, 2007, 10:04 pm |
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brom1
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i don't think that we will ever know everything about brom
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I believe we do in book 3. Saphira will probably spill out all his secrets.
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saphira probably didnt know much more than eragon is.
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Rien.1234
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No she knows more than she is telling Eragon. She flew for 3 days with Brom that would give him plenty of time to explain about what exatly is going on and about him.
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I think that CP will somehow make it so that we will have to work out all his secrets ourselves. 
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i think everything will b explained in the last book, obviously.....Brom kept his secrets to protect Eragon but i think Eragon will b strong enough n Saphira will tell him everything....
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that and maybe my theory
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yea that n mayb ur theory
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May 10th, 2007, 11:53 am |
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Rien.1234
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Both of your Ideas are good. But I do think some one will tell Eragon more about Brom. The question is who has the knowlge to anwser those Q's, maybe Blagden the Raven?
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Maybe Oromis, Gladear, what you said, or it could be Saphira.
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May 10th, 2007, 9:57 pm |
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brom1
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i think if anyone knows anything about brom it's oromis
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Oromis and Saphira will know much I'm sure.
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Rien.1234
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I don't know about Oromis knowing that Eragon is Brom's son he would have told him by now I think. But you never know that is very likly the person besides Saphira that could tell him that info.
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May 10th, 2007, 10:16 pm |
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brom1
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oromis probably didn't want eragon to know yet. he didn't think that "the time was right"
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May 10th, 2007, 10:22 pm |
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Scarecrow
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Yeah, he probably thought he needed to wait till Eragon was ready for the news.
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yea what if ormis holds broms sword too 
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I think the Linnea family has the sword.
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May 10th, 2007, 10:26 pm |
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Rien.1234
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No he dosn't have his sword. Remember two familys hold the last two swords.
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May 10th, 2007, 10:26 pm |
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brom1
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if oromis had brom's sword he would've already given it to eragon
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May 10th, 2007, 10:31 pm |
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Rien.1234
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But that couldn't be true ether, Eragon had Zar'roc as his sword at the time.
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elve King
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yea i was going to say the same thing about zar'roc and what if ormis is in one of the 2 families? do we ever get his last name in eldest?
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Rien.1234
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No we don't so it is posible but I think it will have to do somthing a little more complicated.
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elve King
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well CP could add some more plot to it... it could work... yet who knows.... im growing so impacient over this book lol 
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Rien.1234
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I know what you meen we probly could of writen five diffrent copies of it with all these idea's.
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May 11th, 2007, 1:41 am |
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elve King
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I know right... i thought it was funny on the one post i was reading here said that if CP came to this site, he would never suffer from writters block lol... i thought that was funny and you know what... it's prolly true too 
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Rien.1234
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most likly but what if Arya has Brom's sword. Do you think it is possible.
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yea thats a poss. i think someone said that today too... was it you?
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Rien.1234
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It might of been me but i don't know. If Arya has the sword she wouldn't know that she has kept secret Eragon inheritence from him. That would make her feel horible.
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saphirabrightscale
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Brom told Saphira everything.....but i suppose Oromis could tell him some things, also Blaghden n possibly Arya.......
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May 11th, 2007, 7:22 am |
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Rien.1234
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That is why I think Saphira will tell Eragon or Oromis could. But to support your idea saphirabrightscale look on page 656, she gives away that she knows alittle more.
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Serena Svit-Kona
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I think it will be both Saphira and Oromis that will tell Eragon about Brom's secrets. I don't think Arya will have anything to do with it. Although I think she might be there when he learns all this.
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Yeah I don't think Arya knows much about Brom and Eragon in their relationship.
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o ho Scarecrow, that is a bold statement. Arya more than likely knows more about Eragon and Saphira  then even they do (sadly enough). also, I doubt Eragon will ever know all of Brom's secrets. Brom keeps things very close to the vest, and knowing him, probably never told anyone of those darker and more important secrets that he kept. but that is just an idea. we can only know until Empire comes out.
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i think they will all contribute to telling some of Brom's secretes
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Rien.1234
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Yes they will all contribute, but I think Saphira will tell Eragon more than anyone. She knows more than anyone in my opinion. Pg 282 of Eragon I don't know his past, but he seems honest enough. Should we go to the Varden now? Only I don't know how to find them. Brom never told us. He told me,said Saphira. Eragon grew angry. Why did he trust you, but not me, with all this knowledge? Her scales rustled over the dry rock as she stood abouve him, eyes profound. After we left Teirm and were attacked by the Urgals, he toldme many things, some of which I will not speak of unless necessary. This is one of the many facts that tells us that Saphira will tell Eragon more.
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May 12th, 2007, 1:54 am |
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Scarecrow
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That's what I'm talking about, she knows many things that Eragon does not, like his heritage and alot many things.
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May 12th, 2007, 1:58 am |
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Rien.1234
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You are totaly wright scarecrow. Saphira is the one to expose alot about Brom but I still think that Oromis will tell Eragon a little more.
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Yeah I'm sure Oromis knows some of Eragon's past and his many qualitities.
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May 12th, 2007, 2:03 am |
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Rien.1234
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Very true but would he know if Brom is Eragons father. how would he know that unless Brom told him or he was scry at a bad time. 
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 That's funny. But I don't know how'd he know, Brom is pretty old. But I think Oromis would know somehow or another.
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May 12th, 2007, 2:09 am |
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Rien.1234
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I don't think Oromis will tell Eragon that Brom is his father, that is something Saphira will explain. Look at page 656 of Eldist it explains why I think that.
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May 12th, 2007, 2:12 am |
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That explains alot and I agree with you on Saphira explaining how Eragon will learn that Eragon is his father.
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Rien.1234
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Yes but Arya has to know some about Brom and she will most likly tell us something. This is off topic but how did you become a Black Dragon
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It was from the forum gaems, is where I got all my posts but then they turned off posts in that section so................
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Rien.1234
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Okay I just wondered because you are the only one I see that is a Black Dragon
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But Firetongue is higher than me. Ask her how she gets her posts.
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Rien.1234
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I just tought it was cool you were a black dragon.
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Ok thanks, but we really need to get back on topic.
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Rien.1234
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I don't think that we will ever learn every thing about Brom.
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Not everything, but everything concerning Eragon.
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I agree and maybe concerning Selena as well.
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Hopefully through that we'll learn something.
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Do you think its possible that Angela will tell Eragon anything about Brom and/or Selena?
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Maybe a little, but I don't know if she'll give away the major stuff.
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Rien.1234
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I don't think she will tell Eragon much more about Brom unless she is the one to tell Eragon tha Brom is his father.
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Serena Svit-Kona
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Do you think thats peossible? That it could be Angela that tells Eragon that Brom was his father. Maybe she'll just tell Eragon that the woman Brom loved was Selena and Eragon will use some common sense to figure out the rest.
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Scarecrow
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She might do that, but I'm more hoping for Saphira or Oromis to tell.
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i-luv-saphira
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aye. it won't b as much of a shock if it come from Oromis or Saphira  They are both closer to Eragon than anyone else and if it's something shocking or surprising, Eragon will take it better if it's from one of them.
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May 13th, 2007, 2:51 pm |
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Rien.1234
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I don't know I think he will take it well from Angela becaus she has already told him so much about his future and I think she is one of the few to know the truth
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May 13th, 2007, 4:05 pm |
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Serena Svit-Kona
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I think he would take it well from all three of them. Maybe he'll learn a piece from all three starting with Angela and ending with Saphira.
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May 13th, 2007, 8:18 pm |
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Rien.1234
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That is a awesome Idea but how do you break that into pieces to tell Eragon unless they give hints which Saphira has already done.
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May 13th, 2007, 9:39 pm |
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Scarecrow
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I don't know about all three but maybe just Oromis and Saphira?
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May 18th, 2007, 1:48 am |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
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 Re: Will we ever learn all of Brom's secrets??????
I think that the only thing that he'll get from Angela is that the "blind man" was Brom.
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June 20th, 2007, 3:11 pm |
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Scarecrow
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 Re: Will we ever learn all of Brom's secrets??????
How will the blind man be Brom? That doesn't make sense because he can see? I think it was somebody else, like maybe Eragon's grandfather or maybe it has nothing to do with eragon at all.
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June 20th, 2007, 3:47 pm |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
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 Re: Will we ever learn all of Brom's secrets??????
"father and son both blind as bats."
thank you, thank you very much.
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June 20th, 2007, 3:59 pm |
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Scarecrow
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 Re: Will we ever learn all of Brom's secrets??????
Do you mean blind as that can't see the truth?
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June 20th, 2007, 6:31 pm |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
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 Re: Will we ever learn all of Brom's secrets??????
no. they can't see their fates. and that was a quote from Blagden (i hope i spelled that right).
_________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color]
RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
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June 21st, 2007, 12:09 am |
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Scarecrow
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 Re: Will we ever learn all of Brom's secrets??????
I can't remember who Blagden is.
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June 21st, 2007, 1:50 am |
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I'MNOTCRAZY
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 Re: Will we ever learn all of Brom's secrets??????
the prophetic white raven.
_________________ taking someone's dragon for a joyride... not one of my better ideas "I suppose I won't see you for a while, so farewell, best of luck, avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!" - Angela [/color]
RiderEriel wrote: Oh wow.. I'm seriously scared of IMNC, I'll give you guys that. (No sarcasm there, I really am LOL)
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