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 Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father? 

Do you think that Gleadr is Saphira's father?
Yes 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
No 62%  62%  [ 16 ]
Maybe 19%  19%  [ 5 ]
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Post Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
Okay, okay, okay. Now, everyone here is going to think I'm crazy because we know that in Elsdest, Gleadr tells Saphira that her dam, (Vervada{sp?}) and sire, (I forgot what name he used) were killed in the fall of the Riders. BUT!!! There is a catch. Since we know Gleadr is going to die, and since I'm sure that Gleadr knows he's dying, he would not want Saphira to get attached to him.

I think that when Gleadr told Saphira told that her parents had been killed in the fall, I think that Gleadr used his true name in place of his own. And If I remember correctly, I don't believe they were talking in the AL at the time, which means he could have lied. Because he knew that if he told Saphira that he was her father, she would get so attached to him for a brief period of time before he died.

And when he did die, she would be devistated enough to were she would probably lose focus of the fight. Kind of the Same reason I think Saphira hasn't told Eragon that Brom is his father, because Eragon would lose the will to fight. As would she, if she found out that gleadr was her father and got attached before he died.

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
I'd say that it is very unlikely. I am willing to believe that true names are a bunch of words strung together, not just one word. That and it wouldn't serve much of a purpose in the plot, would it?

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
A true name in the AL is one word. Everything in the AL language that has been introduced has a single word true name.

Brisingr-fire
Adurna- Water
Skulblaka-Dragon

and various others. Why would the true names of Dragons, elves, humans, ect. be any different?

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
uboth make a lot of sense. i think its a possilbility. Gleadr could b old enough to b.

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
Elazar wrote:
A true name in the AL is one word. Everything in the AL language that has been introduced has a single word true name.

Brisingr-fire
Adurna- Water
Skulblaka-Dragon

and various others. Why would the true names of Dragons, elves, humans, ect. be any different?


because true names of people have meaning. all fire that is governed by the word brisingr is fire. fire is not complex. people are much more complex. It is a commonly held assumption that the 7 words that Brom told Eragon before he died was Eragon's true name.

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
I don't think so. In my opinion 7 words for one name in any language is too long, however, I do think Eragon will pay a visit to Vreongard before the third book is over, those seven words could be needed for something there.

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
I really don't think Glaedr is Saphira's :D father. Remember, they spoke in the AL whenever they were together, and if her father died in the Purge, then he definitely died in the Purge. It's not possible for him to be the father of the mighty Saphira :D

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
...yeah. What he said. ^_^ I forgot about that minor detail that makes all the difference.

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
i-luv-saphira wrote:
I really don't think Glaedr is Saphira's :D father. Remember, they spoke in the AL whenever they were together, and if her father died in the Purge, then he definitely died in the Purge. It's not possible for him to be the father of the mighty Saphira :D


If I remember correctly, Glaedr told Saphira that story before Ormis told them to speak in the AL full time, though I'll have to check again, But I think that was before they started that rule.

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
i dont think that he is her father either, and i dont know how interesting of a twist that would be if her were :?

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Yeah, it never even occurred to me. It would be strange if it were true.

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it would b awkward for saphira if she found this out because she tried to go after him. she thought he was her mate and soo...she would be lik ahhh!!!

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
That is actually why I think Glaedr rejected her. Because he would be mating with his own daughter.

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so there is a pretty good chance of him being saphiras father...

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
Elazar wrote:
I don't think so. In my opinion 7 words for one name in any language is too long, however, I do think Eragon will pay a visit to Vreongard before the third book is over, those seven words could be needed for something there.


That is your opinion though, there are names out there that are more than 7 words. Mine has 5

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wow thats a lot of names considering i only hav 3. i have a 1st, middle and last nam.

thats a good thing to think about...

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Yeh well meh for me.

I really doubt that Glaedr is Saphiras father


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i think its highly unlikly tho...but a small possibility...

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In Eragon my fav. characters are Brom and Saphira. In Eldest my fav. character is Saphira...


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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
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Okay, okay, okay. Now, everyone here is going to think I'm crazy because we know that in Elsdest, Gleadr tells Saphira that her dam, (Vervada{sp?}) and sire, (I forgot what name he used) were killed in the fall of the Riders. BUT!!! There is a catch. Since we know Gleadr is going to die, and since I'm sure that Gleadr knows he's dying, he would not want Saphira to get attached to him.

I think that when Gleadr told Saphira told that her parents had been killed in the fall, I think that Gleadr used his true name in place of his own. And If I remember correctly, I don't believe they were talking in the AL at the time, which means he could have lied. Because he knew that if he told Saphira that he was her father, she would get so attached to him for a brief period of time before he died.

BROM IS NOT ERAGON'S FATHER!!! It's Durza-- however horrible that may be!

And when he did die, she would be devistated enough to were she would probably lose focus of the fight. Kind of the Same reason I think Saphira hasn't told Eragon that Brom is his father, because Eragon would lose the will to fight. As would she, if she found out that gleadr was her father and got attached before he died.

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cool if true,unlikly though


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i still think its a possibilty but you never know...

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Not too lickly but it could happen...

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i think we clarifieds the fact that it is a cool possibliy but highly unlikely...

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glaedr is not her father

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i say its a possibility and it could happen!!! dont agrue with the rest of the group its a lot against 1 (so far...) any way like i said earlier i think its a cool possiblity

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In Eragon my fav. characters are Brom and Saphira. In Eldest my fav. character is Saphira...


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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
[quote=Silverwolf Strider]That is your opinion though, there are names out there that are more than 7 words. Mine has 5[/quote]

Mine has 4. Also "Your true name is" takes of 4 of those 7 words....

I doubt it, cause didn't Saphira say she was more or less aware of what was going on while she was in the egg? She would know who her parents were if she met them. She would be able to sense them.

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you to?!?!?

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didnt gleadr say her father was a green, wild dragon? or was it saphiras mother?:-k


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Her mom was Vervada (stormcleaver) who was a wild dragon, only gave saphiras egg to the riders. Her dad he mentioned too, i forgot his name though.

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
Also, it as said that her father died in the fall. Nowhere did it say that Vervada was green though :? Anyway, why wouldn't Glaedr tell her that he was her father?

About the name thing: I always imagined names to be more than at least 4 words. It could be a mix of things that mean someone like water, spirit, castle, eggplant....who knows!

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Why would it even matter if he was her dad? It wouldnt really have any relevance in the plot, other than a little interest.

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It might give Saphira a bit of a shock but otherwise it wouldn't really be much. I think that Saphira might meet her father in the VOS

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Could he maybe tell saphira some uber-old dragon secret? MAybe something that could help kill murtagh or galby?

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wait so where in the book does it say in the book about her parents just telkl me the pages and ill read those you dont have to type the whole thing because it might b long...

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Why does it matter? it just said her mom was vervada and her dad was someone who died in the fall. no secret code words or anything.

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I'MNOTCRAZY wrote:
Elazar wrote:
A true name in the AL is one word. Everything in the AL language that has been introduced has a single word true name.

Brisingr-fire
Adurna- Water
Skulblaka-Dragon

and various others. Why would the true names of Dragons, elves, humans, ect. be any different?


because true names of people have meaning. all fire that is governed by the word brisingr is fire. fire is not complex. people are much more complex. It is a commonly held assumption that the 7 words that Brom told Eragon before he died was Eragon's true name.


Problem with that is, he also told Eragon what each word meant....I dissagree with that. It'll be something different, I think. But I won't count it out completely.

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
Is that the right topic?

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May 24th, 2008, 1:01 pm Profile
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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
123saphira456 wrote:
Why does it matter? it just said her mom was vervada and her dad was someone who died in the fall. no secret code words or anything.


GOSH, calm done i was only curious...

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May 26th, 2008, 4:25 am Profile
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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
I was just wondering, sorry... We pretty much decided that glaedr is not Saphiras dad so...

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May 26th, 2008, 1:44 pm Profile
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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
when was that proven??

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I am a christian that goes to meadows fellowship. i dream of being either an author or a zoologist!

I hope to live in a big house(doesnt every one??) to own many different dog breeds, cats, repitals, and other animals.

In Eragon my fav. characters are Brom and Saphira. In Eldest my fav. character is Saphira...


May 31st, 2008, 3:05 am Profile
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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
Here, there and everywhere. And please, if you add one more word to your post, you will be posting legally.... :D

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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
ok i'm officailly confused!! wen was it proven that gleadr isnt saphira's dad and wat r u talking about silverwolf strider??

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I hope to live in a big house(doesnt every one??) to own many different dog breeds, cats, repitals, and other animals.

In Eragon my fav. characters are Brom and Saphira. In Eldest my fav. character is Saphira...


June 4th, 2008, 8:30 pm Profile
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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
I think it's absolute bosh from beginning to end. Sorry El, but even if he is, what difference does it make? And didn't Murtagh tell Eragon that Morzan was his father? In the AL??? SO how can you say that Brom is Eragon's father?


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Post Re: Could Gleadr actualy be Saphira's father?
erfan Murtagh just said that they had the same Mother and he is Assuming that thy have the same father if they have the same mother.

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