Its posible!
he might be abil to
he dus have a loght of energy

no he cant it would kill him during the process

He culd have enuph energy from aron the ring

it is an okay theory but there are like 2 things eragon was told to never try....raise the dead and time travel lol he isnt dumb enough to try

Whut if saphera or aria died??? then he wuld probubly do it.

no because then other stronger riders would have done it, and noone ever has so it bviously like is impossible

well at sum point he will be forced to or emot will tack over and he will. he might disobey and rase theee dead

It is a magical impossibility, it has killed! everyone who has done it. It is a spell that cannot be done, and it will not & cannto be done.

I agree, and it would really suck if Eragon died, but maybe the "dead" will be able to comunicate with Eragon through some other way.
@BlackWing382: Why do you type like that? It's really hard to read (no offence)

yeah. that would be...not right. i don't think there is a way.

What is the point of the story if Eragon can raise the riders fmro the dead, Galby can do the same thing, it would kill the plot, so no raisiong of the dead.

Woah, woah, woah, turn off the flamethrowers for a second, guys.

I haven't read it in a while so I'm rusty, but is there a particular reason it can't be done, or is it just because it needs immense amounts of energy?

If it's the latter, you honestly never know, he may find a way, but if it's the former then you're outta luck, mate

He is also told about ho the mostpowerful dwarves, elves, riders, and humans have died trying, even in groups.

But did he state a specific reason? If it's due to simply needing an immense amount of energy, then it isn't 100% impossible, just not practical, and extremely difficult.

If there is something else, like the fact that a new soul cannot be created or a consciousness can never be restored then it's a different matter, and inevitably impossible.

Just because it's never been done, doesn't mean it isn't doable, there's a first time for everything

True, but Eragon isn't that strong, neither is Murtagh, Galby or any other being, yet at least, because, we are told somewhere in Eldest that many of the most powerful elves spell casters(the best there is) were killed all at once, just trying to see into the future, now if you cant even see anything in the future how can you raise the dead?

Yes you can.

It's called reproducing.

I'm not going to go into detail, I'll get an infraction.

;DD

It is actually a good question...also to restore life is possible when someone like dies for a little, back then prolly not but like i bet eragon ould restart a heart if it just stoppped recently

Well when your heart stops you are tecahnically dead, so it really depends on the circumstances involved

Well it does take a couple of minutes before you actually become brain dead after your heart has stopped because the cells have started to die off. Has long has there is some fibrillation of the heart the person can be reanimated.

The main purpose of cpr is to keep the oxygenated blood flowing so that the fibrillations continue until a defibrillator becomes available. The defibrillator gives a volt to the heart that attemps to resume it's normal beating. Very few adults will actually become reanimated from the cpr alone, childrens are another story.

Eragon could in theory either manually by doing cpr or with magic keep the heart pumping and this could bring someone back to life if they have just recently died and there heart still fibrillates, but very few would do it from only that. He would need to find a way to do a vault of electricity with magic.

Which if he had the right words he could do easily. So e could bring someone back to life that has been dead for likea minute but not a dead person that has been dead for like a year

Well from a stand point of what we can do ourselves, it would be possible for him to reanimate someone that might have just died.

I am not saying this would work if he has a spear that pierced the person in question. He might have to treat that first.

Ha yea he would probably have to treat the injuries first then work on the heart. He would need a lot of energy to do it though so it would have to be someone importnat to him....like Roran or Arya

This is why I was telling a couple of posts ago



Well Eragon seemed to have become really efficient at treating infuries and the pumping action should not incur too much work, it small. The only problem is that Eragon's magi would have to be really precise

I am just putting our own technical knowledge of how we can resuscitate in our own world with that of Alagaesia. I am not talking about someone that has been dead for a very long time, I am only talking of someone whose heart has stopped pumping since less then 10 minutes.

Since we can possibly resuscitate these kind of cases then it means that it is a physical task that Eragon could possibly replicate manually and with the assistance on magic. I am not saying that Eragon should bring the soul of the person back from the dead since the consequences have been clearly stated by Brom like you pointed out.

Eragon could use is magic instead to induce the heart to pump. It might need to be precise, but when you think about it, it is just the physical task of having to squeaze your hand and then release. Eragon would need to find a way to replicate this on the heart with precision. Of course the moment the person has been resuscitated he would have to cut the magic.

YEs Eragon couldn't bring the soul back from wherever they go, but he could manually make the human body work again.

That would probablytake alot of strength, but it wouldn't really bring them back to life.

If their soul hadn't lefft yet he could bring them back

haha i love how you snuck that in there ruben

When you die, and I donnt know because im noe dead, but I think your soul leaves your body, just like Gladear, it was practically instant. So, you could control the body but they wouldn't really be there.

Thanks for the back up there its rare when that happens.

like in harry potter... infernius or whatever ...

but it wouldn't be good if he could raise the dead.
i mean ... i understand that he'd like wake is uncle and brom and ... from death but, anyone would but ...
i dont know ...
or maybe it would be... idk

The Inheritance Cycle is fantasy so I suppose anything can happen and we shouldn't compsre it to our world

But if you could bring back the ones you love you would do it in an instant

he can't because brom said that magic does not work in the land of the dead!

That and what would the point of the book be if Eragon could raise the dead? He could have a massive army of old riders on his side... Also it takes away the finality of death, if you can just resurrect somebody then what could possibly threaten you? What could ever stand up to him? He would basically be a god, and with how open CP is about his flaws I don't think he would give him that much power.

eragon cannot bring back the dead

Though i know he shouldnt try to do it, i just have a feeling Saphira is going to die and Eragon is either going to go to the Menoa tree and get help or go to the Rock of Kuthian. Either of which will result in a ton of energy being amassed.

Goes against the rules of magic and Brom councils against it in Eragon (Book).

Even with the energy... Wouldn't someone have to give they're life for the spell to work? Maybe Glaedr would allow his HoH to be broken, then he could join Oromis and Eragon would get Saphira back?

I don't think any amount of energy could bring back the dead because Brom said your strength would flee but maybe he just said that to stop eragon from doing it.

I was thinking that the idea was that you couldn't bring a life back without giving up your own, but if they had someone willing to die in order to bring another back couldn't it maybe work? I don't know if this is logical, but with the way that the Ancient Language is balanced wouldn't this make sense?

One theory is that Eragon's power is insufficient to bring back a dead loved one either Arya or Saphira and he will speak his name and the aptly named vault of souls will allow him to bring back the dead or just one dead person as the case may be.

not happening

well it wouldn't be bringing them back from the dead it would just be replacing the Dragons body

very true he wouldnt need to bring back the dead seeing as the dragons who transfered into their hohs they would still be alive. eragon would need to make the dragons each a body and some how make it so there concious would also be in their body. however that would be beyond eragons strength and knowladge, so he could get the spirts to help him. it would have to be the spirts seeing as they have the best knowladge of magic. making the dragons each a body would not be all that different than what they did to the flower.


i just realized somthing. in brisngr where glaedr is explaining the hohs saphira says that the dragons arent dead and glaedr say that the eldunari dont have the urges of the flesh nor the organs with which to fulfill them. if the dragons had new bodies they would have the oragans! the the dragons could rise again!!!!!!

oh i just remembered check saphirarox topic "did saphira transfer into her eldunari" because if saphira did and her body was killed another could be made!

Maybe when eragon ropens the Vault of Souls it'll release some spirits and because Eragon has Glaedr's HoH with him the Spirits will make him whole once more and the souls are those of dead Riders so Oromis and Brom will be there to help him

thats part of what i was saying two posts ago.

as for the spirts i dont think so. when saphira gave eragon the memory brom mentions that eeverything dies even the spirts.
Also when glaedr takes eragon & saphira to those mountains he says that the soul dies with the body. we later learn that dragons can be the one exceptions(the hohs).

he cant he would die because it would use all the energy then his own and poof he's dead.

When I said bringing back the dead I was talking about a new field of magic that Eragon would discover. As for making new bodies that would be find except for the lack of a working brain. Even we today don't understand how the brain works fully how would dragons in alagaesia have that sort of knowledge. Also how would you link these bodies to the dragons Hohs.

mabye in the book joed gave eragon it tells how to extract the soul from the HoH and that is why Galby tried to destroy them all, or maybe it tells some other peice of magic that will help eragon.

But still. If he had to, do you think he would do it? He with saphira and aron the ring. and maby with the hearts of hearts. could raise the dead. It would be a big chang in the book and by the way rules are ment to be broken.

ok how about this.
Eragon and saphira find the hearts of hearts but doing so saphira was killed by eather galby or somthing els, Eragon talkes to the heart of hearts and dicide for the fate of the Dragon race to use all the hearts of hearts to revive saphira..... galby said he had the power of a god. he said he had the power to raise the dead

O my god you guys have no imagination!!! WHAT IF!!! have you ever thought of that?... you are all stuck on ONE idea!!... just think WHAT IF

gomenesigh is right. First of Galby has never said that he can raise the dead. And the dead simply are dead. You know, that is kind of the point by being dead. To be dead.....




I agree. Going with "what if" when every thing points against it is kind of pointless. There is a reason why people don't go around and thinking "what if Galby gets killed by a pink rabbit"

It's not that we don't have any imagination. It's that we are using logic and reason.

It is possible that Saphira will die. But what happens is that she dies.


It does not matter. Eragon could have had an unlimited source of energy and would still not be able to bring anyone back. He is not a God.
The dead are simply dead.


One spell can't not control the circle of life. You live and you die.
You can only hasten the circle.


On a human or elf or dwarf or any other race it would not do anything but invigorate the living. It does not bring back people from the dead.

I do so to prevent any misunderstanding or confusing ^^
A wall of text is also annoying.

I guess rasing the dead is feasible, Brom addreses the matter saying that if you value your life you wont try it but.... idk i think he might do it maybe theres a spell that will let you?

If he does raise the dead i think he will raise up Brom remember when Saphira said that his body will be preserved through all time? after she turnes his grave to diamond... just a thought

why would eragon want to raise the dead anyway? And even if he wanted to wouldn't saphira stop him?

well do i think he will? no but this topic is more or less if he can raise the dead. which i think he can, why he would want to however.. no idea.

This is just a thought, what if Eragon needed the dead to get into Uru'bean. Well in book four he might be a stronger magician and can raise the dead and will not die. So he might raid Uru'bean with the dead or people who don't feel pain.

Yes he could perhaps... but i doubt it, if you remember Nasuada and Roran had a discussion on whether it's worth it to have soldiers who dont feel pain, and more or less him and Nasuada came upon a silent agreement not to, if not because casualties would be explicably high.

I suppose your right but what would happen if Eragon created shades to take Uru'bean? I know its very bad to create shades but they are hard to kill.

If you could get the spirits to co-exist inside someone so that you had there power, but peacefully then that would be BADA$$ no one would be able to stop you. Or if he could get the Spirits to inhabit the dead that would be even better.

So if Eragon did summon up shades do you think they would be able to take Uru'bean as shades are difficult to beat?

Yeah the only differance with a shade and the spirits is the anger that comes with being a shade. Shades dont want to be there they were forced to come in a human, but if asked politely...

I say the Varden should make their men feel no pain, who cares if there's a load of injury's, it would be a lot more efficiant!

Are spirits the same as shades?

Technically a shade is a spirit joined by a human unwillingly... but were getting a little off topic here i think haha.

Yes, I think your right. Well any way I think Eragon can raise the dead even though it's an evil idea.

But he might get stronger in book four... especially with Gleadr's Heart of Hearts and everything.

@ Gomenesigh
But that doesnt neccesarily mean that inthe future he wont be able to raise the dead remember he still has to find the ROK and VOS which could be more eldunari.

I dont think Eragon has any reason to raise the dead but maybe with some newfound power it will be feasible.

Maybe Tenga knows, Im sure it's out there if all Eragon had to do in the AL was say "bring this dead guy to life" then there's the spell right there the only thing he would have to overcome is the amount of energy, which i've already posted how he may be able to overcome.

You see how Eragon asked Oromis he wanted to learn how to raise the dead in Brisinger (book three), maybe CP put that in because it plays a big part in Book Four.

I just think that maybe if Eragon was desperate enough you know? like maybe he'll be forced into situation where he needs some more knowledge, and has to raise someone to get the answers he needs.

That will be Brom Eragon brings back then...
...or maybeOromis.

I would put my bet on Brom however i would rather see Oromis.

Brom kept a lot of secrets, Oromis had all the answers and taught Eragon a lot of magic and things.