well it only took him a few days to fly to Du Weldenvarden and back to Surda

here's an idea, i don't like it a whole lot myself but, here it is anyway. if the V.O.S. can resurrect someone, what if Eragon resurrects that one Elf Arya was 'dating', we can call it, just for her. what kind of a twist would that throw into the story?

that'd be crazy but..how will they kno where to find his body. I dont remember them saying where he was buried

well maybe they don't need a body, the person will just get like a new body when they are resurrected out of the V.O.S.

i really doubt CP is gonna res that elf in any of the books

he might, but i doubt it. but eragon might do it based on how much he cares for arya.

that's the direction i was coming from, and if he did that, maybe Arya would see how much he cares for her and then she realizes how much alike they are and ends up with Eragon anyway

Of all possible people, why this former love interest, it would just confuse the heck out of Arya. A more likely "Bring back" choice would be Brom, considering his wisdom and importance to the main character. Perhaps Orimis. Either way, this idea creates more problems then it solves.

it depends on your point of view, and i can kind of see what you are saying.

What if instead of actually bring Him back he tells Arya that he will do it if she wants him to, then she has to make that choice. it would make her examine how much she cared Him and how much she cares for Eragon.

i don't see how that could create to many more problems.

If he brought back the elf she liked.... why wouldnt he bring back either brom or Vreal... wouldnt those two make more sense

Because your not supposed to be able to bring people back from death, it would make a long, complex explanation (therefore a chance for inner contradiction) more likely. Also, why hasn't this thing been used before, what is it's history, who built it, and for what purpose, and WHY CAN ONLY ERAGON open it? too many questions to late in the story.

Annie is right Brom said "Riders were forbidden to try resurrect th dead, for their own safety. There is an abyss beyond life where magic means nothing. If you can reach into it, your strengh will flee and your soal will fade into darkness. Wizards, sorcerers, and Riders- all have failed and died on that threshold. Stick with what is possible- cuts, bruises, maybe some broken bones- but definetly not dead people."

its ok i'm rereading Eragon and I like just pasted the page it was on.

but there are many magical things in alagaesia so the V.O.S could be one of them and maybe it was the only thing that could bring back the dead.

A magical object is subject to the laws of magic, even Saphira's random magic is still subject to fundamental laws, and one of those is that the dead are DEAD. They cannot be brought back. To do so would undermine the entire structure of magic, and would destroy the coherency of the series.

I agree completely, but what if the goal is not to bring anyone back but to talk to some one who is dead, I personally believe that this Eragon will talk to the first Eragon ans he will tell Eragon how to defeat Galbatorix.

But things, and people that die supposedly go into "the void" never to return. At that point, and I quote "magic means nothing" (Brom). That being said, someone storing an element of themselves for future reference is possible, I'm just not sure how a non-dragon (with HoH) could do it. Brom recorded messages, but unless prophecy had already foretold of Galbatorix's rise, such a recording would be useless.

i think a good way to start book 4 would be if CP started it out back in Angela's shop when Selena was still alive. and she was getting her prophecy, so that way we can find out what Angela said to her since Angela wouldn't tell Eragon.

there are lots of things each of these could be...i mean who would have thought that the weapon under the manoa tree would be not an actual weapon but something to make a sword....cp likes to surprise us and doubt that anything we guess will be right

i think he scans these types of websites when he get stuck and adds ideas that are good to his story.

The void is to magic and the living as a black hole is to matter and light. It would create a problem for the magic system, and a historical problem. If Christopher does that, I would have to pwn him, for the good of the literate public.

Well, it wouldn't matter to them whether Paolini actually published something that idiotic.

YOU FAIL!!!!

is anybody else feeling a slight tinge of dejavu here? about another famous magician?

i dont think the vos is anything to do with the dead...well perhaps but not in such a direct way. most likely i would say it had more to do with the dragons h.o.hs

i think the vault of souls is A: the place where galbatorix is keeping the heart of hearts. B: a place where there are a lot of heart of hearts, but no one remembers where it is (remember oromis said it sounds familiar but can't remember where) C: somehow talks to the dead, or something among those lines. off topic here but im gonna laugh if angela is the next dragon rider! just throwing the possibility out there... i hope its arya though!

I never really thought of Angela being the next rider. But it would have to be someone who new about the riders, because Eragon wouldnt have enough time to train the new rider

thats a gud point! remember the dragons hu had thier names/identities removed??
similar?

I would like to know what your opinions on Shruikin(not sure if its spelled right cant remember) not dying if galby does, or if he is able to betray galby some how. being that hes not galbys true dragon. just something ive been thinking about.

Shurikan probably could live even if Galby dies

Another thing im interested in is what do you think the Menoa tree will ask of Eragon. I think it might be the elf likeness he took on while at the celebration and thereafter of course.

@fang: its not possible for a dragon to live after its rider died. we found that out with oromis.

he could give his hoh to eragon in wich case hes still there in spirit but its the case of would he betray his rider. he may not be galbys true dragon but hes been minipulated with dark magic for so long i doubt he even has a mind of his own anymore

Arya dragons can live after their rider's die but they either go mad or kill themselves and since he isn't really Galby dragon it shouldn't matter.

where does it say that coz i can only remeber it saying if a dragon dies its rider survives but if a rider dies the dragon dies too

somewhere in Eldest i believe. I know that's what the movie said and that's how most other dragon books are written but i am 99.99% sure that a dragon can survive with out it's rider.

I just hope that the new rider isn't Elva, i mean i know it's not likely but the idea makes me shiver

lol

I really don't like her.

Here's an interesting bit i found on "NationMaster.com"

"Mysterious Green Dragon - The Dragon that was to be shown on the front cover of the third book in the inheritance cycle before it was changed to Glaedr. How this dragon will appear is still a mystery. It might be one of the remaining dragon eggs, or it may also be a complete stranger. It is possible that this dragon has already been introduced to us in the second book, Eldest. When Eragon is training with Oromis, and Saphira is flirting with Glaedr, Saphira and Glaedr get mad at each other, and Glaedr ends up leaving the scene. When Eragon is making his way to her, he treads on a fragment of green dragon eggshell, and it might be that this new dragon originated from that place."

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedi ... ance-cycle

Entertainment Weekly are idiots. When you criticize Inheritance, you claim that the PLOT was stolen from Star Wars, and the stock races and worldbuilding from LOTR.

But anyway...

they have a real point in that^^^^

interesting one i must say.
it is possible that mabye the last egg has been hatched for a while and the other rider is keeping themselves and thier dragon secret wait for the right time to reveal themselves. wow this sounds like the plot to the fanfic i wrote lol

They mixed up the standard anti- byline "Plot and some recent history from Star wars, Worldbuilding and stock races from LOTR"

yah there's going to be four books. I heard that it's suppose to decide the fate of eragon and arya. it's suppose to tell who the next dragon rider is also. But my friend and i were talking and we thought it was going to be roran at first, but we think CP is leading people to believe it's him but i don't think it will be.

eh??? i dont get you guys...talk english please???

Hello.

Theres something intresting on your teory about the last egg also been stolen from galbatorix and be hiden on the VoS, and been the way of gettin a fair fight 2 vs 2, but i think theres a reazon as well why its called VoSouls, this last part of the name as far we have read of the books and specially brisingr has a lot to do with the eldunaris. Lets not forget that the 4th book is the last one and goin into more details about another use of this VoS will need a large description and at least 4 or 5 large chapters to fill the void and clear lots of doubts, personally i doubt it, especially when they so close of galby and murty, even more, when galvy can take control over murty and use him as if galvy be there in person fightin in case both met each other in battle, so i belive CP is gonna focus and reforce the story line he has created and make it even more interesting, like for example, hows that eragon reaches the VoS?, how does he found it?, a good idea could be from the book that jeod give him as gift, another could be asking Rhunön-elda, sens she is even older than oromis-elda, another good point of view would be that the reazon why it only sounds familiar to oromis-elda and arya its cuz maybe the so called stone isnt any way near the reach of the elfs maybe is somewhere in the dwarfs domain?, Also awakes another bunch of questiones, like when eragon will have the time to go and dig on the mather? , honestly i could especulate a lot more about this but defenitly and trully belive the VoS is about something about the eldunaris. As for the next dragon raider, well i belive the green dragon will apear till the end of the book, when eragon defeated murty and gaybatorix, lets remember as well that eragon has to leave alagaësia according to the lecture of angela, and theres the oat to the menoa tree the elf-tree may ask eragon to leave alagaësia for good and thas probably why he nevers comes back and leaves the new raider in charge of taking care of all the the people of alagaësia, but that of course its a bunch of ideas lol im not CP to know whats gonna happen but i found this points interestings, just like a lot more that i hope ill have the chance to post.

I would probably agree with you that the VOS has something to do with the eldunari (it was just an afterthought that that could be where the egg would be). Though, I have found myself wondering if the VOS is actually in the mountains in the center of the Hadarak Desert where the dragons used to store their Eldunari before the time of the riders. It would be my guess that the thief went there and hid the egg there and in some way sealed the chamber until Eragon will come and speak his name. This is just a guess, but you never know.

well i think you could be right. But saphira said that the egg was with galbatorix, and the only way i know that is because saphira even said, when she was stolen she still felt the presence of two dragons.

book one when Eragon first started to actually like saphira.

OK, that isn't even possible. We didn't even know that there were other eggs until halfway through book one when Brom told Eragon (after Teirm).

that's what i'm talking about. if you remember eragon didn't even like saphira at first. he blamed her for the death of garrow.

Wow... Um 1) He never didn't like Saphira. 2) I just reread that part, and she didn't say that. 3) I have read the books through 3 times and she never said that.

Hey there ^^

Yea as i said its an intresting idea specially gettin into a plot that it could make sens, and im just puttin my point of view, that could make an intresting turn on the events at the end of the inheritance cuz as oromis-elda said the true name changes with the pass of the time its probably as well that eragon dosnt leave alagaesia which i doubt it maybe eragon already leave alagaesia at the very 1st moment when he was changed by the magic of the dragons, i remember that eragon isnt exactly the same so in a way of seing it eragon already leave to become a new eragon, as for the VoS, makes sens that it be located where you say, i belive that the VoS contains some of the eldunaris of the dead raiders who fight gaybatorix at the fall and as well a lot of very old eldunaris from dragons who didnt become dragon raiders, that could make sens, even if we include youre idea of the green egg, that the raiders of the past used the VoS as sactuary and this thief in particular was compeled to leave the egg in there keeping it safe from everyone, and i mean everyone, thinking that maybe will last till gaybatorix die, also comes to me a question, you guys remember in the book brisingr, the last of the ra'zac tells eragon that galbatorix its about to find it? could be a name? could be a spell? could be the true name of magic? could be the very same VoS? and this questions brings me a lot more like, what make galbatorix belive that he can cheat dead it self? or is his madness so big that he pretends unite his sould or his been with his fake dragon in some way as the very menoa tree, the elf-tree?, also why galbatorix didnt used murtags mind as he did when he fight with oromis-elda when was fighting the second time with eragon?, for this one i can think that galbatorix was confident that as the last time and after the punishment he put over murtag and his dragon wouldnt be overpowered.

Any way those are a few ideas and thoughs i have still al over me i hope we can speak more about this fact and keep speculating about this, lol.

As for saphira sayin that she felt the other 2 eggs i do remember that as well but im not 100% sure of it sens i havent re-read eragon book, but CP has put very clear that on every one of the three books that the last egg remainds under galbatorix power, but as it was said before, maybe thats what he wants everyone to belive so it wont generate more challenge and hope from the vardens and that as well maybe the reazon why he was in such a great hurry to make murtag hatch, just in case the second dragon raider was already around, which wasnt so far from the true sens galvatorix already suspected of a second raider, but why? thats what makes me belive the theory of the egg be hiden in the VoS, sens galbatorix rebeal this to oromis-elda.

You are right that CP did say several times that the last egg was with Galbatorix, but lets look who kept saying it. 1) The Varden said that he was desperately trying to find riders for his two remaining eggs, but obviously that isn't true, because although Murtagh grew up in Galby's court he didn't even know that there were any more dragon eggs left, if Galbatorix was trying so hard to find riders, then it would have been common knowledge. 2) Murtagh himself said that "Galbatorix's other egg was also a male". That would seem to answer the question of whether or not Galby had the last egg, and it did confuse my theory for a few minutes, until I got to wondering one thing. Would Murtagh know? The obvious question is why would he know. I couldnt think of any good reason for him to know. The next obvious question is why wouldn't he know. There are a couple of answers to that one; 1) In some way Murtagh did obviously believe Galby's perfect picture of the dragon riders returning and stuff, and Galby having no eggs left certainly wouldn't help with that, and 2) If Murtagh knew that the other egg was missing, then it is possible that he would have mentioned/hinted at it, and if the Varden got their hands on the last egg it would be a serious blow to Galbatorix.

Hey there.

It would really be a hugh blow to galbatorix that the varden may have the last egg hiden, but thats as we know isnt not true sens the varden, dwarfs and elfs were protecting the only dragon egg they had, but i belive the vardens dont have the other egg, and makes me think on your last theory, that maybe i missed something but i have no idea how they know whats inside the egg's even the vardens and the elfs were surpriced that the blue egg was female, so i belive when murtagh told eragon that galbatorix was planing using saphira to make a new generation of raiders, glabatorix menth thorn and shruikan, as you were saying murtahg has no way to know or galbatorix unless i missed something, what the other egg has inside, could even be another female dragron, which i trully doubt it cuz it would bring a lot of sens if Arya would, and let me re-marck this word, "would" hatch to the last egg, i trully suport you theory of the last egg been hiden inside the VoS, with a lot more of secrets, one thing we can be for sure, is that at least 1 big and probably new and unknown in the other 3 books its goin to be discobered in that misterious place.

Obviously the Varden don't HAVE the last egg. The last egg is hidden somewhere. Galby knows that he doesn't have it, but he doesn't want the Varden to know that. That whole gender thing... 1) Galbatorix could have discovered the gender a long time ago, or 2) He could have lied to Murtagh so that he would try harder to get Eragon and Saphira.

that makes sense. very interesting theory....

Ahhhh, so many long posts here....
And I don't think that Murtagh would have really cared, he may have been content with there only being a few Riders and he being one of the most powerful

Hello.

You may be right, but you must remember that in the last book, when eragon face murthag, he say something to eragon about his hearts, tryin to my very personal point of view warning eragon about the eldunaris and saphira tells eragon that murthag was probably tryin to warning about that fact, in the other hand murthag may be probably so twisted for the power that galbatorix has give him that may be losing it, but lets not forget that murthag left in the 3rd book defeated and doubting about his power, of course galbatorix maybe has give him even more power to overpower eragon but who knows maybe galbatorix is also afraid that murthag turn against him, that wont be pleacent.

Remember this dude tenga? eragon met him somwhere in an elf built building?and tenga said that when "she" was there she was making stuff all the time ant then when eragon went to dwarves he said to angela that he met Tenga and angela remembered him and said something about questions. maybe Tenga made V.o.S and that rock-thing and didnt know what to do with them. angela and solembum were there by that time and solembum knew what these thing were capable of because hes as ancient as elves are.
then angela and solembum left tenga,went to port_something and told eragon the prophecy and solembum told him about menoa tree V.o.S and rock thing. maybe in the 4th book they'll go to tenga again ask him about V.o.S and rock-thing(sorry i cant remember the name) and hell tell them something really really important. like the "V.o.S stores your soul for a limited time and when it stores it You can go and talk to the souls that left this world log before i was born" or sumthing like that it makes sense to me:D (sorry for grammar if i did spelling mistakes)

Yes that is a really good theory Arcanlir. And Tenga is supposed to have a somewhat large part in the new book. And that would explain how solembum knows about it.

I like that theory.... Nice theory Arcanlir.
By the way, its the rock of kuthian.

I like it too.

souls disappear immediately when their body dies, so its not possible at the last part, maybe tenga says there is "dragon scales" in there, but those are really eldunari. other than that your theory was really good.
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i don't kno, he said that he has to put the ending into 2 books

u mean there will be two more books or do u mean brisingr and the next book?

When CP said that he was talking about the third book, when it was still going to be just a trilogy, he said he couldnt possibly fit the whole thing in one last book so he split into into two, the third one and the 4th.

sounds like a smart idea to me. just in case did u mean to put tetragy?

i remember something like that

O MG...wouldnt it be awesome if Saphira and a male dragon had an egg.....and the egg hatched for Roran's and Katrina's baby when it grew up??

it wont happen but it would be cool

that would be pretty cool and its a pretty good theory.

also not only those thereoys eragon and saphira could try and seperate galby from the rest of the eldunari he has and they and murtagh if he can break the hold galby has on them can help and kill galby

going back to that rock of kuthian, i almost forgot about that. i wonder if there are eldunari there or somethin, vault of souls makes me a little curious

then eragon would most likely find a way but guys and girls remember eragon future him and a girl on either a boat or the sea shore w/ 2 dragons flying in the sky

true but eragon isnt done growing in the cycle yet so it can be him and maybe arya bc she could make herself taller w/ magic

maybe but who says he will leave?

yes but does it mean that eragon has to leave or do u think it will be a personal choice?

i agree with that but i came up with a theory for how eragon and arya get together. so before the final battle they both decide that if they do die they donf wanna die alone

Thanks for agreeing! I'm not sure if they'll get together before or after Galby is defeated, but they definetly will get together.

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