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 Who will the next Dragon Rider be? [REVOTE/EDIT!] 

Next rider??
Arya 63%  63%  [ 35 ]
Orik 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Roran 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
Elva 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
Nasuda 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
One of those two ladies. 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
The egg won't hatch/It will get broken. 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
Other-explain in comment please :) 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 56
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i think arya will be the next rider since the other riders are human

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Read the rules on spamming. Why do you think that.

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I think what eragon222 means that since Murtagh and Eragon are human the next rider should be an elf and the most likely elf is Arya. I agree on that. There is also the fact that all the riders are male so the next rider should also be female. That sort of narrows it down to two options. Arya or Nasuada. Yes, it could still be Katrina or Elva, but I really doubt it since they don't really know how to fight or anything.Out of either Arya or Nasuada, Arya is the mot likely choice because one, she's an elf, and two CP is very predictable.

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Post Re: Who will the next Dragon Rider be? [REVOTE/EDIT!]
And although it won't help the series in any way (it will make it worse, oh so much worse) it's probably going to happen. It's just like CP to make Arya the first ever female rider. So if the egg hatches in book four the most logical choice is indeed Arya.
However, if the egg doesn't hatch in the book (which I would prefer) then it could pretty much hatch for anyone. That is my hope.

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If arya does become rider than no she will not be the first female rider. It has been said in the books and discussed in the forums that there were female riders in the past they just haven't been mentioned very often.

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Where is it mentioned in the books? I've never heard of this.

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I don't know if it has been said, but it has been implied. And Rider, the egg cannot hatch for just anyone. CP said that it would hatch for someone that has been in all the previous books.

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What CP has said.

1. CP has said that the rider will be "logic inevitability"
2. CP also mentioned that he hopes it will be a surprise 2 years ago.
At the time, the book we know now as Brisingr was supposed to be the final book of the series. Paolini decided to separate that book in two. Before Brisingr came most people didn’t though that it would be Arya. It was Roran. But after Brisingr was released, people have considered Arya much more likely, not just because of the events that took place in the book itself but Paolini's explanations of some of those certain scenes since then.
3. The rider has to have been in all three books so far.

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In the matter of logic inevitability

Roran:
1. Roran has his family to live for. That would ruin his life with his family, causing him to outlive his wife (his entire world) and his child. Then his possible grandchildren, etc. Depressing much?
2. Then he could not be King, which is probably the leading theory under Roran - no immortal Rulers.
3. So far, his characterization has been developing his physical strength and leadership skills. No diplomatic skills or magical skills. If you were to use the stone argument, it could easily be countered with this - his failure at learning/using magic could be there to show his path will not be a magical one.
4. Is human - very strong, but only for a human. Could not compete with Galby or Murt.
5. On the "Rider blood" argument - blood is no real argument. CP has said that dragon does not choose because of families. He don’t even share that what you then should call rider blood. Brom-Eragon Morzan-Murtagh. Roran has no conection there.
6. We have no time to train him. How many books did it take Eragon to reach his current strength? We would need to teach Roran the customs of Riders, how to preform magic and control energy as well as the AL itself, etc. Not time.
7. Wields a hammer, not a sword. It’s a diffrent fighting skill.
8. Due to the above, he is not really "logically inevitable," no?

Orik:
1. He is a King. No immortal rulers, no? At least, not of a mortal race. Dwarves = mortal.
2. Yeah, he is also a Dwarf. Dwarves are not in the Pact, and there is not currently enough power to recast it. And honestly, why would it be recast now? In a time of war? Silly.
3. It would cause him to out live his wife/possible children as well.
4. Yes, we all know that he rode Saphira. But he didn't really seem too comfortable with 90% of the time. Yeah.
5. Size rations, anyone? He coulden’t even reach a Urgal from the back of a dragon.
6. Would require magical training.
7. Not "logically inevitable."

Angela:
1. Based on CP's sister as a kind of joke - she was obviously not meant to have an extreme role in the books. Like, I dunno, the Rider who will help save the dragon race and defeat the evil Empire.
2. Can use magic, but is very weak when it come to magic use. So she would still require magical training, which would make her weaker than all other Riders in the IC.
3. Is human - normal strength.
4. Does not fight with a sword. Minor, but still.
5. Is not "logically inevitable."

Nasuada:
1. She currently is leader of the Varden. That is a big enough responsibility in itself, yes?
2. She would require training in magic and as well in how to use a sword.
3. Is human - normal strength.
4. On magic, she loathes the stuff. That would cause a kind of conflict of interests, no?
5. Not "logically inevitable."

Elva:
1. Currently (physically) about 7 years old.
Not to mention that she is literally only about 1 year old.
2. No sympathies - why would she fight for the Varden at all? It would take some doing just to convince her to be on the "good side" (bleh) in the first place.
3. She would require training as well, both magically and with a blade.
4. Again, human. She could not compete physically just by her race, not to mention her age.
5. Unpredictable, to put it mildly.
6. Not "logically inevitable."

But let’s take a look at Arya.
1. The dream in Deathwatch. Two people, a man and woman, boarding a ship while two dragon circle above. Now, most think this is Eragon departing the land with the other Rider, their two dragons flying above. This, if true, indicates the Rider is female.
2. Eragon is in love with Arya, Greenie and Saphie will likely be mates. Fits together.
3. She requires less training, as we don't have time to train a new Rider.
4. She is elven and female. The other Riders are human and male. It evens it out a little bit.
5. As an elf, is of superior mental and physical strength - and with one book to go, this is definite advantage.
6. Green. She has green eyes, green magic, etc. CP has said that there was clues in the books about who the next rider will be.
7. CP is trying to put her and eragon on even footing. They have the same strength magically and physically, or close to it, both are Shadeslayers. So making her a dragon rider would be the last part.
8. She has been in all three books.
9. She IS "logically inevitable

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Now I know Arya is the most likely, and because she is an EXTREME Mary Sue it's almost impossible for her to not become the next rider. So what I say next is not me trying to prove this wrong.

I could be wrong on this, but I think that in the dream in Deathwatch it never actually specified that the one walking with the man was a woman. I think it said someone with long hair.
Making Arya a Rider would also not put Arya and Eragon on an even footing. Arya is much older than eragon and is an elven princess. Making her a rider would make her much older than eragon, an elven princess, a dragon rider, a shadeslayer, and having much more knowledge of magic than eragon. Eragon is, ok, the son of brom, about 17 years old, a shadeslayer, and a dragon rider. CP would have to do much more to even things out.
The other things are pretty much true, but Saphira seems intent on establishing her race again in Alagaisia, so why would she and Greenie be alagaisia together?
Everything else is pretty much true. Sadly Arya has in fact been in all three books.

Despite what I want Mary S- I mean Arya will get the egg help eragon beat galby, and they'll get together. Ugh! Cliches all the way! That is why I'm gonna hate the ending. For me the only interesting characters left are Orik, Murtagh, Saphira, and Roran. Also Bladesinger.

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Now I know Arya is the most likely, and because she is an EXTREME Mary Sue it's almost impossible for her to not become the next rider. So what I say next is not me trying to prove this wrong.

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I could be wrong on this, but I think that in the dream in Deathwatch it never actually specified that the one walking with the man was a woman. I think it said someone with long hair.

Wrong!

"He watched as a group of people on proud horses approached a lonely river. Many had silver hair and carried tall lances. A strange, fair ship waited for them, shining under a bright moon. The figures slowly boarded the vessel; two of them, taller than the rest, walked arm in arm. Their faces were obscured by cowls, but he could tell that one was a woman. They stood on the deck of the ship and faced the shore. A man stood alone on the pebble beach, the only one who had not boarded the ship. He threw back his head and let out a long, aching cry. As it faded, the ship glided down the river, without a breeze or oars, out into the flat, empty land. The vision clouded, but just before it disappeared, Eragon glimpsed two dragons in the sky."

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Making Arya a Rider would also not put Arya and Eragon on an even footing.

It would. Both would be shadslayers, both is imortals, both are riders.
What Eragon lack in comon experience he gains in his nautral talent and his experience with Saphira.

"I can teach you nothing more of the sword. Of all the fighters I’ve met, only three of them could have defeated me like that, and I doubt any of them could have done it with their left hand." He smiled ruefully. "I may not be as young as I used to be, but I can tell that you’re a talented and rare swordsman."

Arya might be better in magic and knowlege, but Eragon has the uperhand in almost every thing else as a rider. And it's only stupid to think that they should be exactly equal in every thing.

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Arya is much older than eragon

And so? They are both young adults. Arya might have more life experience, but that only helps her and Eragon in the fights. No?
And the age is just a number. They are equal as young adults.

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and is an elven princess.

Rider goes before that, but even so eragon will be the lead rider. That puts him higher than anyone else.

Rider of Death wrote:
Making her a rider would make her much older than eragon,

What! What has her beinga rider to do with that she is older than him?

Rider of Death wrote:
an elven princess, a dragon rider,

It's fiting since he is the lead rider and that they will get together.
I don't see your problem here.

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a shadeslayer, and having much more knowledge of magic than eragon.

So what? You do know that magic isn't the only thing right? Eragon has more knowlege and experiance as being a rider.

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Eragon is, ok, the son of brom, about 17 years old, a shadeslayer, and a dragon rider. CP would have to do much more to even things out.

In your eyes yes. In reality no.

Rider of Death wrote:
The other things are pretty much true, but Saphira seems intent on establishing her race again in Alagaisia, so why would she and Greenie be alagaisia together?

Maybe they will be forced or maybe it is that they can't bring their race back. Greenie and Saphira can have kids, but their kids can't have with eachother.

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Everything else is pretty much true. Sadly Arya has in fact been in all three books.

Sadly for you perhaps. I love it ^^

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Despite what I want Mary S- I mean Arya

Almost funny

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will get the egg help eragon beat galby, and they'll get together. Ugh!

isn't that just great? :)

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Cliches all the way! That is why I'm gonna hate the ending.

The majority of the fans likes it tho ^^

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For me the only interesting characters left are Orik, Murtagh, Saphira, and Roran. Also Bladesinger.

Intresting................

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I like the way you think Librarian! So, I rest my case, the most likely rider is Arya. And I's likes that!

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@ The Librarian:

Ok I was wrong about the Dreamwatch thing. (seriously, I haven't read the books in a while).

For your second point, in your opinion it would make them equal, in mine it wouldn't. Everything isn't about how good they are at fighting. It has to do primarily with what they have experienced. At the moment, Arya is pretty far ahead of Eragon in this area. (in my opinion)

You third point is wrong (in my opinion), because Arya has stated numerous times in the books that their age difference is a huge problem. It's exactly like a 17 year old marrying an extremely healthy 100 year old because that is exactly what it is.

My point is that Arya will be an elven princess and a dragon rider, and no matter if eragon being the lead rider won't upset the balance. However, this can easily be overcome by Eragon beating Galby. I admit that.

I'll reword the next part: 'Making her a rider would make her (of course) a dragon rider, much older than eragon, an elven princess, a shadeslayer, and having much more knowledge of magic than eragon.' (the grammer is horrible, I know) My point is that things are not even for them at the moment.

For your next point I think you should rephrase what you said as, "In your eyes yes, in my eyes no." This has to do with opinions, not reality.

Good one.

Wasn't meant to be funny. It was meant to be sarcastic so I guess I failed there...

Notice the 'Ugh!'

And yes, they are interesting.

The majority of fans like it because the majority of fans are just wanting a quick ending that has Arya and Eragon getting together. This isn't a good thing because they are making the book completely about the 'romance' between the two when that is just a sub-plot.

@eragon+arya: It is true that Arya is the most likely, but that's what's going wrong with the series. (once again in my opinion)

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Ok I was wrong about the Dreamwatch thing. (seriously, I haven't read the books in a while).

No problem ^^ It can happen to anyone.

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For your second point, in your opinion it would make them equal, in mine it wouldn't. Everything isn't about how good they are at fighting. It has to do primarily with what they have experienced. At the moment, Arya is pretty far ahead of Eragon in this area. (in my opinion)

She is ahead of him in LIFE experience. Not as a rider.
She is also better than him when it comes to magic, but he is also better than her in other ways. Like already being a rider, with the blade, the knowldege and such things. I do agree that Arya is the better one of the two. But Eragon is as close as he can be to be at her level. And most important is that he will be the lead rider. The strongest position you can get.

Rider of Death wrote:
You third point is wrong (in my opinion), because Arya has stated numerous times in the books that their age difference is a huge problem. It's exactly like a 17 year old marrying an extremely healthy 100 year old because that is exactly what it is.

Both Eragon and Arya are young adults. And most imoprtant is that they both are imortals. After 2000 years when Arya is like 2100 years and Eragon is 2000 years, this dosn't matter. The age is just a number. Mentaly and physicaly they are at the same age.

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My point is that Arya will be an elven princess and a dragon rider, and no matter if eragon being the lead rider won't upset the balance. However, this can easily be overcome by Eragon beating Galby. I admit that.

Officialy she will still be a princess, but being a dragon rider comes first.
And Eragon being the lead rider is a huge thing. Being the lead rider is the strongest postioin in whole Alagesia. But as you said Eragon will also be the hero who kills galby in the end.

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I'll reword the next part: 'Making her a rider would make her (of course) a dragon rider, much older than eragon, an elven princess, a shadeslayer, and having much more knowledge of magic than eragon.' (the grammer is horrible, I know) My point is that things are not even for them at the moment.

Eragon will in the end be a rider, the lead rider, a shadeslayer, bane of the Ra'zac, son of Brom, family to the dwarvern monarch, king slayer and I could go on.

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For your next point I think you should rephrase what you said as, "In your eyes yes, in my eyes no." This has to do with opinions, not reality.

Not sure with point it was, but we both have our on views.

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Good one.

Thank you ^^

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Wasn't meant to be funny. It was meant to be sarcastic so I guess I failed there...

I guessed that you was being sarcastic ^^
I just diden't cared much for it =/

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Notice the 'Ugh!'

I did notice the 'Ugh!'

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And yes, they are interesting.

never said that they wasn't No?

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The majority of fans like it because the majority of fans are just wanting a quick ending that has Arya and Eragon getting together. This isn't a good thing because they are making the book completely about the 'romance' between the two when that is just a sub-plot.

Wrong! More corectly is that YOU think that it isn't good

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My main point is that life experience is the main (and hardest problem to overcome. Arya herself has stated, and Eragon has admitted to himself that their age difference that can't be overcome. She is wiser and has experienced much more than Eragon. That is what it says in the books so that is what I'm going with.

My other point is that it is almost impossible and totally unrealistic for them to be equals. However, as CP has already shown and stated that that is what he is trying to do (bringing in a shade for like five pages wasn't the best idea to do this...) I'll leave it at that.

And when I said they were interesting, I was agreeing with when you wrote, "Interesting........" (don't remember how many dots)

Both the fact that most fans just want Arya and Eragon to get together and the fact that I don't like it are true. And I don't like it because it is extremely obvious and totally unoriginal. It's going to make lots of people happy but it's going to do nothing for the overall story (just like keeping Murtagh alive won't. I personally want him to stay alive but for the sake of the story I won't be angry when he does die...not that this has anything to do with anything...)

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My main point is that life experience is the main (and hardest problem to overcome. Arya herself has stated, and Eragon has admitted to himself that their age difference that can't be overcome. She is wiser and has experienced much more than Eragon. That is what it says in the books so that is what I'm going with.

It was aid through the moment. Trust me on this one. 100 years is a very smal number when you are imortal. In 500 years Eragon would be 500 and Arya 600. Then 100 years isn't so much. Both of them would be seval hundreds years old with serval hundred years of experience. And life experience is something eragon will get with time. the time he has since he is imortal. The important thing is that they are equal in mind and body. They are young adults. As Rorans said Arya is at her prime of youth. As is Eragon. A simple number is not a problem for imortals.

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My other point is that it is almost impossible and totally unrealistic for them to be equals.

And that is the part that i don't understand. They will mostly have the same titels, but Eragon will have the highest one in the end.

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However, as CP has already shown and stated that that is what he is trying to do (bringing in a shade for like five pages wasn't the best idea to do this...) I'll leave it at that.

That he has. And I agree with the shade tho. I was hoping for a longer battle ^^

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And when I said they were interesting, I was agreeing with when you wrote, "Interesting........" (don't remember how many dots)

Neither do I =/ I don't know why I put out so many dots. I guess I was frustated or something.

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Both the fact that most fans just want Arya and Eragon to get together and the fact that I don't like it are true.

And I respect your opinion ^^ But I will continue to argu for the sake of arguing tho ^^

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And I don't like it because it is extremely obvious and totally unoriginal.

Yet her it is a personal thing. I prefer obvious writing infront of bad writing. because puting Eragon with some one who dosn't make any sence at all is bad writing. And I think that it is original writing. Eragon and Arya does make a perfect match for eachothers due to what CP is doing ^^

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It's going to make lots of people happy but it's going to do nothing for the overall story (just like keeping Murtagh alive won't. I personally want him to stay alive but for the sake of the story I won't be angry when he does die...not that this has anything to do with anything...)

I agree with Murtagh. Personal I want him to survive, but after everything that has happend he does have to die to give the story some sence.
Murtagh is way to hated over Alagesia :(

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It would be unrealistic if Eragon and Arya didn't initially see their age difference as a problem and felt that it couldn't be overcome. As I've read in IF, Eragon and Arya are being very tentative in their relationship. Eragon and Arya both note their differences but Eragon nevertheless wants to take a chance at a romantic relationship, Arya understandably (given her own and Oromis's explanations) doesn't. It is in Brisingr that we see that Arya is starting to change her mind regardless of all the risks she knows that are involved in becoming attached to Eragon. In the Shadow of the Doom chapter, you can see just how connected Eragon and Arya are starting to feel towards each other at the moments when they realize they only survived killing Durza and Varaug because they were fighting together and when they are both grieving over the loss of Oromis and Glaedr.

"Eragon." She reached out and grasped his shoulder, and almost by accident, he found himself holding her in his arms.

He and Arya remained locked together for a long while, consoling each other...


Now considering this and other things that for the moment I will keep to myself, I believe Arya will become the next dragon rider. Now while her training as a magician far exceeds Eragon's since she's had more time to learn and is more fluent in the ancient language, Eragon has the elder and thus always larger and stronger dragon. Dragons are as every bit as intelligent and involved as the riders are so in that, there is a certain symmetry and balance that is symbolized.


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Speaking of how close they are this has always been my favourite quote:

Arya looked at him. Eragon met her gaze, and something lurched within him. He flushed without knowing why, feeling a sudden connection with her, a sense that she understood him better than anyone other than Saphira. His reaction confused him, for no one had affected him in that manner before.

Throughout the rest of the day, all Eragon had to do was think back on that moment to make himself smile and set his insides churning with a mixture of odd sensations he could not identify.

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@mk2108: Of course Eragon wants to take a chance at a romantic relationship. He's the one who attempted to start one in the first place. And of course he and Arya are getting closer. I'm just saying it's not a good idea, and everything CP put into the first two books and over half of the third went against it. With all that time spent saying a romance would never happen, it seems kind of dumb to make it start up in the last half of book three and the final book. It won't help the book either.
And I admit that Arya will probably be the next rider, but once again it won't help the book, and will probably hurt the series as a whole.

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@mk2108: Of course Eragon wants to take a chance at a romantic relationship. He's the one who attempted to start one in the first place. And of course he and Arya are getting closer. I'm just saying it's not a good idea, and everything CP put into the first two books and over half of the third went against it. With all that time spent saying a romance would never happen, it seems kind of dumb to make it start up in the last half of book three and the final book. It won't help the book either.
And I admit that Arya will probably be the next rider, but once again it won't help the book, and will probably hurt the series as a whole.

Actually Eragon and Arya started to get closer alredy in the end of Eldest after the battle of the burning plains by forgiving eacother and restarting theire relationship. This was becuase Eragon stoped being an imature jerk who only lusted for her. And how can you say that the first book went against them? More than half of the book Arya wasn't there or injured.
And when she woke up she and eragon had their time together as friends. Nothing bad happend there. Where did you get that idea from?
And Arya and Eragon makes one of the best team in Algesia. So how would that not be a good idea? Eragon can't wil alone with Saphira. He need a strong rider at his side. And even better of when they work so good together. And them together would take them even futher ^^
I don't know if it was Brom who said it or who it was but love is the strongest thing in Alagesia.

Arya said twice that it couldn't happen when eragon was acting like a imature jerk who lusted for her. Of course it couldn't happen then. What do you think. Frankly I would have hit eragon if i was Arya. She was almost to kind.

And Arya being the next rider is the only thing that can help the book. Unless we wan't galby to win of course. No one else is strong or fight as good together with Eragon to make the difference we need.

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@mk2108: Of course Eragon wants to take a chance at a romantic relationship. He's the one who attempted to start one in the first place. And of course he and Arya are getting closer. I'm just saying it's not a good idea, and everything CP put into the first two books and over half of the third went against it. With all that time spent saying a romance would never happen, it seems kind of dumb to make it start up in the last half of book three and the final book. It won't help the book either.
And I admit that Arya will probably be the next rider, but once again it won't help the book, and will probably hurt the series as a whole.


And I would say of course there was something against it. There always is. Every couple especially in fantasy fiction has obstacles. Something that prevents them from being together right away. It would be less interesting if there wasn't. Roran and Katrina who were already a couple and yet Katrina's father Sloan was so against them being together that he denied Katrina her dowry, betrayed his own village and killed a man leading Katrina to be kidnapped for months by the Ra'zac. When Roran rescued Katrina that reaffirmed to them why they were together, why they were with the right person. Eragon and Arya are just beginning to figure out for themselves why they work as we saw when they killed Varaug the shade, showing that they are starting to complete each other and the way they held each other when grieving over the loss of Oromis and Glaedr.


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@(I'ts so hard to find the @ button on this stupid keyboard!!!!!) The librarian: Notice how I said it won't help the books not how it won't help the characters in the books. No matter how good a team Arya and Eragon are that doesn't change the fact that their romance is not adding anything new to the story that hasn't been used thousands of times in other books. Also, Arya isn't supposed to be our only hope for beating Galby. The Vault of Souls is (as has been mentioned in the series by one cool cat). And the very fact that Arya is the only one strong enough plays against the story. The whole point is to avoid the obvious, not use it constantly (which is what is starting to happen in this series).
@(URGGG!!!)mk2108: I don't know about the completing each other thing, and I don't know how such a long typo about some shade got into Brisingr, but your point is valid. Obstacles are what makes any romance we read about interesting (although Twilight botched it up). My point is that the majority of the series has had to do with how their romance is impossible, and then suddenly in book three...WOW, it looks like a romance is possible. That doesn't make it convincing in the slightest.

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It does to me. Eldest discussed the reasons for the impossibility of their relationship, Brisingr was about the reasons for the possibility of their relationship. As Roran told Eragon, these are reasons you give me and the heart rarely listens to reason. That was the theme of Eragon and Arya's relationship in Brisingr.


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The librarian: Notice how I said it won't help the books not how it won't help the characters in the books.

Sorry m8 =/ I guess I read to fast...

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No matter how good a team Arya and Eragon are that doesn't change the fact that their romance is not adding anything new to the story that hasn't been used thousands of times in other books.

It's true that it has happend in almost every other book, but I personaly would think that it would be worse for the book if we only see Eragon loving her without anything happens. It would be boring. A love is a great way to put more colour in the book. But you at least agree that it would be good for Arya and eragon ^^

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Also, Arya isn't supposed to be our only hope for beating Galby.

I never said that, because I know that eragon will deal the finnal blow.
CP is obvious.... But as said thast she is the only one strong enough to help Eragon win. Eragon can't take galby alone or with a weak rider.
That is why I think it only would be good for the book to have Arya as the next rider. It's the only person who makes any sence at all.
Any one else would make the book very unrealistic.

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The Vault of Souls is (as has been mentioned in the series by one cool cat). And the very fact that Arya is the only one strong enough plays against the story. The whole point is to avoid the obvious, not use it constantly (which is what is starting to happen in this series).

Well.... I personaly think obvious writing is better that bad and unrealistic writing. But CP has always been obvious. I could guess that Brom was Eragons father way before Brisingr came out xD

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*each paragraph I write connects to each of your points*

It's ok that you misread. I'm just glad I'm not the only one who has done it so far. :)
A love is great for the book, but a love with a tragic ending would do just as well as a love with a happy ending. Then again, there has been a lot of tragedy in the books so far, so it probably wouldn't be the best idea to make the romance a tragedy as well. And yes, I agree that for the characters in the books Arya's and Eragon's most definite happy ending will be a good thing.
That is indeed the case. However, the fact that she is not supposed to be the only hope added to the fact that she has somehow become the only logical hope isn't very helpful to the readers. It's a contradiction that I'm having a hard time dealing with.
I am in agreement here. CP has ever been obvious, and at times that is very nice. However, when it is constant I get sort of annoyed. That is why I want the unexpected to happen. That is one of the main reasons I don't want Arya to be the next rider. I'm looking for a twist.
And by the way, I guessed that Brom was Eragon's dad about a year before book four came out so we are on the same page there. :)

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It's ok that you misread. I'm just glad I'm not the only one who has done it so far. :)

Hehe :P

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A love is great for the book, but a love with a tragic ending would do just as well as a love with a happy ending.

I don't understand. Is a romatic relatioship bad no matter if it ends in a good or tragic way in your eyes?

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Then again, there has been a lot of tragedy in the books so far, so it probably wouldn't be the best idea to make the romance a tragedy as well.

I agree ^^ Both Eragon and Arya deseves to be happy after all they have gone trough xD

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And yes, I agree that for the characters in the books Arya's and Eragon's most definite happy ending will be a good thing.

^^

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That is indeed the case. However, the fact that she is not supposed to be the only hope added to the fact that she has somehow become the only logical hope isn't very helpful to the readers.

It depends on how you see it :) I see your point even tho I don't agree.
I don't care if it is obvious as long as it make sence.
And she is not the "only" hope. Eragon will always come first followed by Saphira.
Arya will be the one helping them ^^

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It's a contradiction that I'm having a hard time dealing with.

What part? xD

Rider of Death wrote:
I am in agreement here. CP has ever been obvious, and at times that is very nice. However, when it is constant I get sort of annoyed.

But he is stil quite a good author ^^ Even better when you take it from his age ;) But obvious dosn't have to be a bad thing ^^

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That is why I want the unexpected to happen. That is one of the main reasons I don't want Arya to be the next rider.

I fully understand you even tho I disagree xD

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I'm looking for a twist.

Does that twist has to be about the next rider to make the book good? ;)

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And by the way, I guessed that Brom was Eragon's dad about a year before book four came out so we are on the same page there. :)

Yay! :P Two geniuses is better than one ^^

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I don't understand. Is a romatic relatioship bad no matter if it ends in a good or tragic way in your eyes?


No. Not at all. It's just this romance that has me peeved. It is going all over the place without having to, because we all know what's going to happen. Arya and Eragon are going to get together. It's a done deal.

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It depends on how you see it :) I see your point even tho I don't agree.
I don't care if it is obvious as long as it make sence.
And she is not the "only" hope. Eragon will always come first followed by Saphira.
Arya will be the one helping them ^^


But as you have already said, no one would make a better rider than her, and we all know that Eragon can't beat Galby by himself. She is the only logical choice to help him so in a way she is the only hope. (we already know eragon and saphira will be fighting the evil king)
As to the 'obvious' thing, I think that that is where we disagree the most. It is also the main reason why i dislike Arya. She is far too obvious a character.

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Rider of Death wrote:
It's a contradiction that I'm having a hard time dealing with.

What part? xD


The whole Arya romance thing.

The Librarian wrote:
Rider of Death wrote:
I am in agreement here. CP has ever been obvious, and at times that is very nice. However, when it is constant I get sort of annoyed.

But he is stil quite a good author ^^ Even better when you take it from his age ;) But obvious dosn't have to be a bad thing ^^


I agree that CP is a pretty good author, and I agree that obvious doesn't have to be a good thing. However, too much of it can kill a book.



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Rider of Death wrote:
I'm looking for a twist.

Does that twist has to be about the next rider to make the book good? ;)


:lol: No, but it would sure make the book extremely interesting.
I also want it to be about the rider because Arya is becoming...er...what's the word...too powerful?

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And by the way, I guessed that Brom was Eragon's dad about a year before book four came out so we are on the same page there. :)

Yay! :P Two geniuses is better than one ^^


Yet another thing we agree on!

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No. Not at all. It's just this romance that has me peeved. It is going all over the place without having to, because we all know what's going to happen. Arya and Eragon are going to get together. It's a done deal.

true. Lucky for me tho since that is how I want it ;) I can't wait to see them together ^^

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But as you have already said, no one would make a better rider than her, and we all know that Eragon can't beat Galby by himself. She is the only logical choice to help him so in a way she is the only hope. (we already know eragon and saphira will be fighting the evil king)

And that is a good thing in my eyes. I didn't saw the fact that brom was Eragons father as a bad thing just because I could guess it. You need things to make the story good even if they are obvious.

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As to the 'obvious' thing, I think that that is where we disagree the most. It is also the main reason why i dislike Arya. She is far too obvious a character.

You dislike her for being able to guess that she will be the next rider and that she will end up with Eragon?
That is new..... Most people goes for what kind of charcter it is.

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The whole Arya romance thing.

Okey ^^

Rider of Death wrote:
I agree that CP is a pretty good author, and I agree that obvious doesn't have to be a good thing. However, too much of it can kill a book.

I fully agree. There is no need to read a book if you can guess the whole thing xD But the only thing I have guess so far is.
*Brom being Eragons father
*Arya being the next rider
*Arya and eragon geting together
*Arya and Eragon leaving Alagesia with thier dragons.

And that is a very smal part of the plot. Being able to guess 4 or 5 things is nothing ;)


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:lol: No, but it would sure make the book extremely interesting.
I also want it to be about the rider because Arya is becoming...er...what's the word...too powerful?

Not more powerful thatn eragon. CP has made it quit clear that they will be on an even footing ;)

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Yet another thing we agree on!

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You dislike her for being able to guess that she will be the next rider and that she will end up with Eragon?
That is new..... Most people goes for what kind of charcter it is.


I dislike her because as a character she is way too obvious. We know she and Eragon will get together. We know she'll become the next rider. We know she will help Eragon beat Galby. We know she won't die. We know that she will be the one leaving with Eragon if he leaves Alagaisia.
All together, we know way too much that will happen. She is going to go through the whole series and Eragon and her will get together. There will be no mystery or suspense if she is in a dangerous place because we know she will survive. I don't believe that any character in any book should be as obvious as she is.
Once again it all boils down to obviousness, and boy does she have a lot of it. Arya is predictable and adds no mystery or energy to the book in my eyes, and therefore she is boring and unnecessary.

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I fully agree. There is no need to read a book if you can guess the whole thing xD But the only thing I have guess so far is.
*Brom being Eragons father
*Arya being the next rider
*Arya and eragon geting together
*Arya and Eragon leaving Alagesia with thier dragons.
And that is a very smal part of the plot. Being able to guess 4 or 5 things is nothing ;)


*Arya not dying
*Murtagh dying
*Arya and Eragon will together beat Galby making their bond of love all the stronger bringing about much luvyduvyness
*Galby being defeated
*An epic battle at the end that the forces of good will be losing but then after Eragon beats Galby the forces of evil will be destroyed
*The elves and dwarves becoming friends again.

I could go on and on.

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I dislike her because as a character she is way too obvious. We know she and Eragon will get together. We know she'll become the next rider. We know she will help Eragon beat Galby. We know she won't die. We know that she will be the one leaving with Eragon if he leaves Alagaisia.

But we can guess such things with most of the characters. Do you dislike Eragon as well? Or Saphira?

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All together, we know way too much that will happen. She is going to go through the whole series and Eragon and her will get together. There will be no mystery or suspense if she is in a dangerous place because we know she will survive. I don't believe that any character in any book should be as obvious as she is.

Eragon is at least as obvious as her. We even know Eragon better.
We also know that Saphira will survive and that she will fight along side Eragon.

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Once again it all boils down to obviousness, and boy does she have a lot of it. Arya is predictable and adds no mystery or energy to the book in my eyes, and therefore she is boring and unnecessary.

When it comes to obvious almost all of CP charcters fails in the way =/

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*Arya not dying
*Murtagh dying
*Arya and Eragon will together beat Galby making their bond of love all the stronger bringing about much luvyduvyness
*Galby being defeated
*An epic battle at the end that the forces of good will be losing but then after Eragon beats Galby the forces of evil will be destroyed
*The elves and dwarves becoming friends again.

I could go on and on.

Please do!

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Actually, I dislike Eragon as well. For obviousness as well as the fact that he is just too unbelievably moral and good. Saphira however is an interesting character because we can never actually tell what she will do next. Whenever Arya appears however, she is predictable.
Of course Saphira will fight along side Eragon. That's the whole point. He was destined to be a dragon rider and overthrow Galby not have his dragon die and fight galby alone. The point is that this is not the case for Arya. There is no need to her to be there other than for the sappy romance.
Saphira, Orik, Nasuada, and Murtagh aren't very predictable. Even Eragon is less obvious than Arya. (mainly because he makes stupid decisions quite often that no one can foresee) And I found Roran strangely unpredictable as well.

*Nasuada not dying
*Saphira getting together with greenie
*Shruikan being good for a little while and then dying tragically
*The dragon race not able to be rebuilt...on Alagaisia anyway
*Eragon probably leaves Alagaisia to find the elves homeland
*Roran becoming a farmer again and living happily with Katrina

That's six more. I'm too lazy to think of others at the moment.

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Actually, I dislike Eragon as well. For obviousness as well as the fact that he is just too unbelievably moral and good.

A nother thing we agree on then ^^ Even tho I don't hate eragon I can't stand him. He is not a hero. He is Nasuada pupet and a whiner.

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Saphira however is an interesting character because we can never actually tell what she will do next. Whenever Arya appears however, she is predictable.

The outcome of Arya is predictable but not what she will do =/
She has suprised me many times with getsures and what she has said.

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Of course Saphira will fight along side Eragon. That's the whole point. He was destined to be a dragon rider and overthrow Galby not have his dragon die and fight galby alone. The point is that this is not the case for Arya. There is no need to her to be there other than for the sappy romance.

She has alredy had an important place in the story outside being his love interest. No?

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Saphira, Orik, Nasuada, and Murtagh aren't very predictable. Even Eragon is less obvious than Arya. (mainly because he makes stupid decisions quite often that no one can foresee) And I found Roran strangely unpredictable as well.

Have you forseen every thing Arya has done? I was suprised at first when I read Brisingr. I never expected her to open up to him that soon. And many of her gestures later into the story. While the outcome of her charcter is predictable, we knows close to nothing about how she thinks.

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*Nasuada not dying
*Saphira getting together with greenie
*Shruikan being good for a little while and then dying tragically
*The dragon race not able to be rebuilt...on Alagaisia anyway
*Eragon probably leaves Alagaisia to find the elves homeland
*Roran becoming a farmer again and living happily with Katrina

That's six more. I'm too lazy to think of others at the moment.

True enough, but the whole series is predictable :P Not just Arya.
And you are not the only one who is lazy ;)

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Rider of Death wrote:
Actually, I dislike Eragon as well. For obviousness as well as the fact that he is just too unbelievably moral and good.

A nother thing we agree on then ^^ Even tho I don't hate eragon I can't stand him. He is not a hero. He is Nasuada pupet and a winner.

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Saphira however is an interesting character because we can never actually tell what she will do next. Whenever Arya appears however, she is predictable.

The outcome of Arya is predictable but not what she will do =/
She has suprised me many times with getsures and what she has said.

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Of course Saphira will fight along side Eragon. That's the whole point. He was destined to be a dragon rider and overthrow Galby not have his dragon die and fight galby alone. The point is that this is not the case for Arya. There is no need to her to be there other than for the sappy romance.

She has alredy had an important place in the story outside being his love interest. No?

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Saphira, Orik, Nasuada, and Murtagh aren't very predictable. Even Eragon is less obvious than Arya. (mainly because he makes stupid decisions quite often that no one can foresee) And I found Roran strangely unpredictable as well.

Have you forseen every thing Arya has done? I was suprised at first when I read Brisingr. I never expected her to open up to him that soon. And many of her gestures later into the story. While the outcome of her charcter is predictable, we knows close to nothing about how she thinks.

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*Nasuada not dying
*Saphira getting together with greenie
*Shruikan being good for a little while and then dying tragically
*The dragon race not able to be rebuilt...on Alagaisia anyway
*Eragon probably leaves Alagaisia to find the elves homeland
*Roran becoming a farmer again and living happily with Katrina

That's six more. I'm too lazy to think of others at the moment.

True enough, but the whole series is predictable :P Not just Arya.
And you are not the only one who is lazy ;)


I think your being really quite mean to the characters, but I dont really care! :lol: I always think Arya is the best in all of them, exepting Angela and solembum, cos their just funny

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I think your being really quite mean to the characters, but I dont really care!

Really? Odd. Because I only hate Nasuada.
Then I might dislike Roran, Elva, Orrin & Triana. But thats it.
And I do dislike eragon to a sertain part. But overall A'm quite fine with him.

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:lol: I always think Arya is the best in all of them, exepting Angela and solembum, cos their just funny

Agreed on the Arya part ^^ Arya is simply the best! <3
I honastly dosn't care so much for neither Angela or Solembum. Even tho I like them I never think of them.

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Another Arya lover? Drat. There used to be quite a few people who didn't like her in this section. I think most have either left the forum or stopped posting here though. Too bad.
After this long discussion I think we can all agree that ARya will in fact be the next rider. I don't think that it is the best idea, but it's going to happen. Annoying and sad, but true.

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It's about time that was realized! I've been trying to point that out since I got here a year ago.

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The fact that she will probably be the next rider (although if she isn't CP will go way up on my list of favorite writers) or the fact that it is sad and annoying?

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The fact that she will probably be the next rider (although if she isn't CP will go way up on my list of favorite writers) or the fact that it is sad and annoying?

Take a guess ;) It's not that hard xD

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I'm gonna go with the sad and annoying one because of my own personal bias.

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CP usually does things fairly in keeping with tradition e.g. red is usually associated with evil, villains, mutagh's dragon thorn etc and because the last dragon is green to me that points towards an elvish rider however i am surprised that it has not been revealed yet as CP would have to have the varden/elves steal the egg (almost at the begining of the new book) the future rider would have to be put into contact with the egg and then the dragon would have to grow incredibly quickly even faster than thorn (who was helped by Galbatorix) who grew unaturally and it doesnt seem in keeping with the good guys to do things unaturally like galbatorix tends to. Therefore my theory is that towards the end of the book when the empire is nearly crushed Arya will get presented with the egg, it will hatch and towards the end saphira/new dragon (toy boy like relationship!) and eragon/arya (toy boy relationship! lol)


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The idea that the green egg may possibly hatch towards the end of the book (the epilogue maybe) has been brought up before. I am an advocate for it simply because it doesn't look like there will be enough space to do it properly. If it is attempted we will end up with another Varaug (sp). Also the toy boy relationship seems right up CP's alley, so I'm all for your idea.

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The idea that the green egg may possibly hatch towards the end of the book (the epilogue maybe) has been brought up before.

Yea, but I don't hope so. The idea of Eragon taking down both Murtagh and galby alone as the only rider is quite..... bad? =/

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I am an advocate for it simply because it doesn't look like there will be enough space to do it properly. If it is attempted we will end up with another Varaug (sp).

You have to remember that the Empire is big and that they only has skratch the corners of it. The green Dragon only need around 6 months to grow (maybe less). Arya on the other hand dosn't need a personal traing.
The only training she need is with greeni.
But I agree. CP need to do it correctly.

And you spelled Varaug right if you want to know ^^

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Also the toy boy relationship seems right up CP's alley, so I'm all for your idea.

Toy boy?

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Why does the idea of eragon taking down galby by himself seem bad?
Galby will make murtagh fight eragon, murtagh will beat him, galby will come over to gloat and try to do something mean, murtagh will have a change of heart and attack galby, galby will give him a death wound, eragon in a rage will attack and finish galby off.
Seems like a CPish ending.

None of the other books spanned six months so I don't see why this one should. The only logical place to put it is somewhere at the end.
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Why does the idea of eragon taking down galby by himself seem bad?
Galby will make murtagh fight eragon, murtagh will beat him, galby will come over to gloat and try to do something mean, murtagh will have a change of heart and attack galby, galby will give him a death wound, eragon in a rage will attack and finish galby off.
Seems like a CPish ending.

I think that it is bad since Galby is the guy who defeated the rider at their prime of power. And he has only since then grown stronger.
Eragon is on the other hand Nasuada little pupet and has never defated any even footed enemy without any help. It might just be me here, but the thought of Eragon defeating them alone is for me "bad" writing.

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None of the other books spanned six months so I don't see why this one should.

Winter is coming up, the Empire is big, the have only skratched the corners of it, CP has said that the fourth book will have more battle tang all the other together. Trust me. The fourth book has to be during a long time.

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The only logical place to put it is somewhere at the end.

I think otherwise. What is the reason of having another rider when it won't do anything?

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haha xD

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I know what it means. I just don't get how it fist in that subject.

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That's just the thing. All of CP's writing so far has been 'bad' if you look at it in a certain way. I wouldn't put it past him to make an ending like that. But Arya must also be considered. She will probably be a part of the final battle. Like Galby perhaps has his sword to her throat and threatens to kill her for instance...
But six months? That is way to long of a time. Half a year in fact. The first three books together have spanned about that long. two to three months maybe, but only six if you want a gigantic amount of horribly hurried writing.
The point is that the newborn dragon at the end of the book represents the possibility of a new dragon race and the rebirth of the old Alagaisia. In short, victory. A dragon at the end of a book that actually leaves the series with a little bit of symbolism is far better for the final book than a dragon who is just there to make it possible to beat Galby. That's where the VOS comes in.

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That's just the thing. All of CP's writing so far has been 'bad' if you look at it in a certain way.

I partly agree. I do see what you mean, but CP does have his moments.
There are parts where he does an excelent job.

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I wouldn't put it past him to make an ending like that.

Neither do I.....

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But Arya must also be considered. She will probably be a part of the final battle. Like Galby perhaps has his sword to her throat and threatens to kill her for instance...

Well... we have seen that in other storys, so that chance that CP will copy that as well is big ;)

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But six months? That is way to long of a time. Half a year in fact. The first three books together have spanned about that long.

Since the begining of Brisingr it has gone around one year since Eragon.
And he spent a couple of monts in Elesmera training.

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two to three months maybe, but only six if you want a gigantic amount of horribly hurried writing.

How fast do you think you move an medival army acros enemy lands?
In reality it could take months just to capture a city. (Not that CP will do it of course) The Empire is big and Varden moves slow. And there will be battles on the way. It will take time.

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The point is that the newborn dragon at the end of the book represents the possibility of a new dragon race and the rebirth of the old Alagaisia.

here is one thing I don't get then. Spahira and Greeni can get kids. But who will their kids have children with? Eachothers?

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In short, victory. A dragon at the end of a book that actually leaves the series with a little bit of symbolism is far better for the final book than a dragon who is just there to make it possible to beat Galby. That's where the VOS comes in.

But we don't know what VOS will do. I can't honstaly see Eragon deafeat Galby/Shurikan & Murtagh/Thorn alone as the only rider. I know that Saphira is good, but not that good. I know that Eragon is strong, but not that strong. If the VOS make Eragon to superman that would be much much worse than depending on the third rider.

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Don't forget that an entire elven army is also coming. They will get through enemy lands over ten times faster than the varden. Plus, the varden now have eragon and twelve other elves who will make the siege of a city much easier.

Greenie and Saphira's kids may very well do that. We know nothing about Dragon's in this sense. The book is very vague so it is indeed possible. Let's remember that Dragons are a completely different race than humans.

I never said anything about the VOS making Eragon superman. But remember that solumbum said that when Eragon is at is weakest and all hope is lost. That seems to insinuate that he will try to beat Galby on his own and lose. All hope would seem lost then wouldn't it?
Anyways, my main point here is that they are not just going to confront Galby and defeat him right away. And let's admit it, even if there was a major time skip or the book spanned six months (which would kill it) and Greenie hatched for Arya, is there really any chance that she and Eragon with their respective dragons would stand a chance against Galby and Murtagh? Galby tore down the riders and defeated vrail. Do you really believe that two new dragon riders would stand a chance against him, even with murtagh not helping him. Even if murtagh was on the good side they would pose no threat to Galby.

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Than in a way there would be no point to the last book. They go through 3 books of crap to lose in the end? CP isn't that kind of writer. This is also fiction, not reality, something magical will happen and they will win.

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Did I ever say they would lose the whole thing? No! I said they will most likely lose their first encounter with Galby (or it could be murtagh who shows eragon just how weak he is, you never know).
And of course something magical will happen. I think I stressed the VOS quite a lot in my last post, and I thinjk all of us know the VOS is magical.
I'm not saying that what I suggest is going to happen. I'm saying it would make the book far more interesting.

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Yes but the first encounter with Galby head on would have to be the only encounter. There is no way Eragon could get away from Galby if he was losing. he would be captured and than it would be over.

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I'm siding with gomenesigh here. If Eragon is about to lose there is no way he can get away. Remeber that Galby is strong enough to keep Oromis/Glaedr at bay trough a nother boddy miles away.

As gomenesigh said, he would be captured and it would be over.
There won't be tow fights agianst galby.

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Then there is no point for the VOS in the books.
And with Murtagh's help they could get away. Let's remember that he is serving Galby under duress, so by the time the first encounter with Galby happens he could be just about ready to break from his clutches. If he distracted the king long enough Eragon and Saphira would have enough time to get away, and as they glanced behind them they would see Galby finishing Murtagh off blablablablabla.

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We're also assuming that the Galby fight will be when he needs to go to the vos. Every time Murtagh goes to fight Eragon, he is stronger and stronger. When they get closer to fighting Galby, Eragon might fight Murtagh and could be very overpowered or Galby could use Murtagh again and Eragon realizes how screwed he really is. Or galby could have a new wickedness up his sleeve. Either way Murtagh isn't stupid and he clearly stated that he was going to do a lot of research and learn everything before he tries to escape his grip on Galby and he is not stupid enough to do that right in front of him. As close as Murtagh and Eragon were before he went back to Galby, he said he wasn't going to sacrifice himself for anyone.

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So you're basically saying murtagh will die laughing still evil? Ok, I respect your opinion. However, considering you believe that the egg will hatch for Arya in enough time for her to help eragon battle Galby, I think that leaves murtagh quite a bit of time to do some research. If what you think about Arya happens, what I think about murtagh is very likely. If not then I'll just be happy that CP didn't screw up the book by making Arya help fight Galby with her dragon.
And also the characters have said a lot of things that they haven't followed through on, the greatest of these being Arya saying she would never get together with eragon and then during the very next book getting close to him. So murtagh can still do something good. He could even sacrifice himself without knowing it. Also, CP writes things in the classic 'hero saves the day and gets the girl way' and a bad guy turning good at the last minute fits right in to that.
Finally, eragon just seeing that murtagh is super-powerful isn't going to make him lose all hope and go immediately in search of the VOS. He already knows what is going on with murtagh so he already knows he is getting more powerful by the day. It's going to take a complete defeat to make him realize just inadequate he is.

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Absolutely every thing you just said you just made up. Did I say Murtagh was going to stay evil? No. Murtagh is my favorite character and I want him to go good again. Did I say that Murtagh would stay evil? No. Did I say that the egg was going to hatch for Arya? No. I hate arya and hope it doesn't hatch for her. If you read any thread about Arya that I have posted in you would know that. Did I ever say that Murtagh was laughing? No. He is miserable. Did I ever that Eragon going to the vos after Murtagh was a sure thing? No. I said might, key word MIGHT. That doesn't mean it will definitely happen, it is just an idea. Did I say that Murtagh wouldn't help? No. I said that Murtagh wouldn't release his hold from Galby. In front of Galby. You cannot say that CP will make Murtagh such an idiot that he would do that.

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This is not about who you want/hope/prefere to be the next rider.
It's about who you think. And given what CP has said it is obvious going to be Arya. However new informations has come up.

CP has aid that he is almsot done with the book, but hav'r decided the name for the new dragon yet. This can mean that he won't hatch until the end. Or he might have hatched before that, but CP just hasn't writen down his name yet.

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@gomensigh: Murtagh trying to release himself at any time is idiotic. Do you honestly believe that releasing himself even a thousand miles from Galby is any safer than doing it right next to him? Galby has thought of all the angles already and I can assure you he is not going to be beaten by distance. Also, Murtagh doesn't have to try to free himself to break free. He could change without meaning to in Galby's presence. The what should he do? Just stand there and wait for Galby to once again subdue him? Or should he fight?
@The Librarian: Actually it is about who we want, hope, prefer, and think. Notice the title which does not have the word think in it.
CP has never said it is obviously going to be Arya, that is the the common (and most likely true) belief.
Also CP has said he hoped it would be a surprise, so either he doesn't know how easy it is to see that Arya will most likely be the nect rider, or it is someone else.
About the dragon name thing, if he hasn't come up with a name yet then it will probably hatch near the end. If it isn't that's just stupid. Why write about a very important character without deciding on a name?

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@The Librarian:
Actually it is about who we want, hope, prefer, and think. Notice the title which does not have the word think in it.

The tittle says: Who will the next Dragon Rider be?
Not Who do you want it to be. We are to discuse who we think it is and why. Otherwise it wouldn't be a discussion. It would just be a worthless place where members went around with opinions and without any fact to back it up with. You can state what you hope fore, but the main discussion is about who it WILL be and not who we prefer.

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CP has never said it is obviously going to be Arya, that is the the common (and most likely true) belief.

Not right out in the blue.
But many quots from him points at it.

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Also CP has said he hoped it would be a surprise, so either he doesn't know how easy it is to see that Arya will most likely be the nect rider, or it is someone else.

CP also did thought that we coulden't guess who Eragons reall father was......

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About the dragon name thing, if he hasn't come up with a name yet then it will probably hatch near the end. If it isn't that's just stupid. Why write about a very important character without deciding on a name?

I'm not so sure. You can still write the story without the name.
CP said that it was hard to come up with a dragon name.

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The fact is we don't know who it WILL be. I think that this topic is to express who we think it will be but also who we hope it will be. Both have exactly the same importance. And people usually back up their hopes with facts from the book too.
Many quotes from him points to it? Well then he's not doing a very godod job of concealing it easily.
But unlike brom being eragon's father there is not much room to argue against Arya here. There is an overwhelming list of things that point to her while for Brom it could have gone either way.
But who does write a story without a name? It's not a smart thing to do. It shows a lack of planning and most likely bad writing.

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The fact is we don't know who it WILL be.

Not for sure, but it is still more than obvious that it will be Arya.

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I think that this topic is to express who we think it will be but also who we hope it will be. Both have exactly the same importance.

Do they? With what we think we can provive evidence and argue about it.
But going on with what we like would be pointles. You are not having an argument when people are going on with that some one wants Arya to be the next rider because she looks good or that some one wants it to be Elva since they think she is cute.

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And people usually back up their hopes with facts from the book too.

How? If they are saying that they want Arya to be the next rider because he/she likes her and are using what CP has said, they don't suport their "hope" but the theroie. Facts are for arguments.

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Many quotes from him points to it? Well then he's not doing a very godod job of concealing it easily.

never said he did. In fact I have said many times that he has made it more than obvius that it will be her.

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But unlike brom being eragon's father there is not much room to argue against Arya here. There is an overwhelming list of things that point to her while for Brom it could have gone either way.

Agreed.

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But who does write a story without a name? It's not a smart thing to do. It shows a lack of planning and most likely bad writing.

In this case if he does it, CP would.

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It is obvious that it will be Arya because of extremely bad writing. So far the whole series has led up to the question, "Who will the next dragon rider be?" That is a fact. It is the most important question, and, to me, the only one I really care about as the question of where the characters are going isn't that interesting any more (murtagh of course isn't included here). As I said, it is the most important question. However the most important question has been answered before the first page of the final book has been read. Utterly stupid.

The hope/think thing is way off topic now so I won't be talking about it. (the real reason is that i had typed out a lenghty reply, however my electricity decided that that was a good time to take a nap)

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Guys I am posting this here because I dont know where else to post it but here seems kinda like the place:1 CP said that the new rider will be someone who was in all the books :) 2 something I realized because I am re-reading all the books, is angela's prophicy " Angela pointed to one of the bones. ' I will start here, ' she said slowly,' because it is the clearest to understand.' The symbol on the bone was a long horizontal line with a circle resting on it. ' infinity or long life, ' said Angela quietly." So eragon wont die!!!!! :) i think its overlooked because everyone already knows that because he's a rider he'll have a long life, but at the same time everyones saying he might die because of this and that :)

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Ok so what your was your point exactly? I doubt Eragon is going to die since he is the main character and I doubt the books will go on long enough to see him die of old age if that's possible, more like dieing of his body being so old. It will happen eventually. But there is another topic that discusses Angela's predictions.

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My point is, ( and sorry about the prediction thing ) Some people are saying that hes going to die trying to save someone, and thats not possible, because of her predictions, but your right and I should take this else where :) oops :P Oh and dont forget CP said the new rider will be someone who has been in all the books, so that crosses out those two girs who Angela cast the bones for, and the egg wont hatch at all guesses. Oh and if anyone had those, then I didnt mean to put you down, I'm just saying they cant be.

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People have been saying he's going to die? Never heard that one before...

her predictions still don't rule out that the dragon could hatch sometime near the end of the book.

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i totally agree i think the egg will not hatch or the egg will hatch , but the dragon dies . :?


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There's been talk of the dragon dying?
That would be varaug all over again!!

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That would be true. Having Greeni die at a young age won't do the series any good. :?

Though, in my opinion it would be Arya. Though, only when certain conditions are met regarding to changes in her personality.

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The egg WILL hatch, but the dragon could die... I dont think so though, too sad and that would mess everything up. The egg could still hatch for someone on the other side though, right? Hmm just thought of angela. Shes not on the other side, but shes older then you would think, so she knows some things and wouldnt need to be trained very much, but more then arya would need to be. Someone said ( and Im not sure who so I cant give exact credit ) Everyone is saying arya is too obvious it wont be her so even if it is her it would be a twist because everyone said it wouldnt be! I thought it was very funny :)

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I just had a thought. If the elves weren't letting anyone in Du Weldenvarden after the fall of the Riders, then Angela must be older than Arya, cause Oromis remembered her being there a long time ago. :shock:

I think Arya is a little bit obvious, but I can't come up with a better theory than her. She wouldn't require as much training because she can already fight and use magic. Her magic is green so that could be a clue that it's her. And I was playing Eragon on my old SP the other day and there's a part on there where you have to find a 'blade of grass' for this little girl. When you find it, it says that the blade is green (like a Rider's sword), and Arya is the only character that can use it.

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Hmm, I got a question. Where are u all so sure from that the dragon is going to be green? I dont remember something like this said in the books. Has CP said that is an interview or something?


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Hmm, I got a question. Where are u all so sure from that the dragon is going to be green? I dont remember something like this said in the books. Has CP said that is an interview or something?

Because just as with the name of the last book, tho cover is also ready.
CP has seen it and confirmed to the fans that the book will have a green dragon as cover.

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The title hasn't been decided yet. :? The whole forum would be exploding if it was. :)

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The title hasn't been decided yet. :? The whole forum would be exploding if it was. :)

Christopher has said in interviews that he chose the title of Book 4 prior to writing Book 4. The title has been decided but not released.
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Arya will be the rider all the way. She needs a companion. She is so lonely...

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I think ya forgot that dragon eggs are harder then diamonds so the chance of it breaking is very unlikely. (no offense)


Arya!! Then Ersgon and her could get together and have some fluff! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Actually in Eldest it says that during the Du Fryn Skulblaka the elves used magic to smash dragon eggs. That's why that rock is called "The Stone of Broken Eggs". :)

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Ooops. I read 2 fast. :-))

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That's alright :)

On topic though: Since there appears to be no other logical choice, I say Arya will be the next Rider. I said earlier that it's way too obvious, but I can't think of anyone else it could be. All the other choices are either laughable or would require to much training.

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Good.

Obviously Arya is skilled in magic, which makes her training shorter, I think the last egg is green, and Arya's eyes and magic are green. Also, if Arya is a rider, then it makes good sense for Arya to become Eragon's spouse. Also, because Arya Has spent more time with humans, and Eragon is part elf, that would even things out.
That is why I think and want Arya to be the next dragon rider. (she is also my favourite elf/human.)
And I know that the egg might not be green, but take a look at this:

Eragon the book: cover is blue, blue dragon hatches and is on cover
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Can you explain why you voted for arya? Please read the rules about spamming.

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See my last post.

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Ok, well instead of spamming yet again you could have just said why you wanted her as rider. You still need to explain in the post because it's still considered spam.

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Who says the last egg is green? =) The dragon on the front is, but couldn't that dragon live in the Spine, and be the one who wiped out Galbatorix's army?

Why does Arya have to be the rider? She doesn't need a dragon to live on forever.

I voted "Other" and here's the reason why:

I still like my idea that the next rider will be someone like Sloan - someone nobody's expecting. It doesn't have to be Sloan, just someone people wouldn't normally think about being the rider. The rider's supposed to be someone who's been all the books. Sloan, Nasuada, and Arya all are. Arya is the one almost everyone wants, making me want to go with someone else. Nasuada as well. If Nasuada became the last rider then she could be with Murtaugh (sp) as some people hope. Sloan is someone who has lost everything, but if he was willing to change then he could make a great rider.

I guess it's obvious that I'm not an Arya fan

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Cp has said in some interview somewhere that the last dragon will be green. Not to mention that Galby went and searched for any remaining eldunari and so did Oromis and dragons don't have control over their magic so it wouldn't be able to hide itself all to well by itself from people.

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Shall we drop all of this and forget it?

I've stated my reasons why I want Arya to be a rider. It is my opinion. End of story.

(no offense)

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Who says the last egg is green? =)

CP does. The egg is emerald green.

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The dragon on the front is, but couldn't that dragon live in the Spine, and be the one who wiped out Galbatorix's army?

Because CP has said that there are no more dragons than those we know of. And galby has the last egg.

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Why does Arya have to be the rider? She doesn't need a dragon to live on forever.

Because she is the one that actually fits in to what CP has said about the next rider. And no elf needs a dragon to live for ever. What is the point with that. CP does not go around and grant humans an immortal life.
Most of the riders where elves.

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I still like my idea that the next rider will be someone like Sloan - someone nobody's expecting.

That someone can't be it simply because he/she don't have all it needs to reach the requirements that CP has said about the next rider.

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I think Eragon is going to find the wiled dragon or something because he is going to need more than the help of one extera dragon.

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I think the Arya will be the next rider. Her magic is green (a riders magic is the same as their dragon) and most of the information points towards her to be the next rider, she has been in all the books as well so it would fit.

It's most likly for Arya to be the next rider but I would quite like to see a dwarf rider, Orik maybe, but he doesn't use magicand when he did ride Saphira along with Eragon he didn't enjoy it.

So I think Arya is the next rider.

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Aye. It is time another elf is a dragon rider.


So the other hundred or so elves before him don't count for anything now? It's between Roran and Arya. Roran because of following Eragon's steps etc. and Arya because of this color argument.

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If it's out of them, which I agree with - has to be one of then two, then it's Arya.

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Aye. It is time another elf is a dragon rider.

So the other hundred or so elves before him don't count for anything now?


They do, but the number of human Riders currently overshadows that of elven Riders, which is zero after Oromis's death.

I don't see Roran being a Rider, especially just because he is following in Eragon's steps, which is clearly not the case when you look at his superhuman achievements as a human. Roran is characterized as a human that can accomplish subhuman feats. He is looked up to by other humans, which would inevitably change if he were made into a Rider. Furthermore, the only reason Roran fights in battle is because he feels the need to protect Katrina. If he were made a Rider, he would live past Katrina. That would undoubtedly sadden him and decrease any commitment he would have to being a Rider.

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Well Arya's most likely to be the next rider anyway, because of what has been said earlier. It would be good to see a dawarf rider, like Orik, but it'll never happen... so else might have a chance of being the next rider? Angela?

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Well Arya's most likely to be the next rider anyway, because of what has been said earlier. It would be good to see a dawarf rider, like Orik, but it'll never happen... so else might have a chance of being the next rider? Angela?


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I think Nasuada will be the next dragon rider. This is why. I think Paolini used Eragon's argument of it's safer to love Arya than to leave his heart for the taking by a human woman to invalidate his feelings for her. So in Inheritance, Eragon and Nasauda will fall in love with each other and Paolini will make her a dragon rider so he can circumvent having to have Eragon outliving her at the end of the story. I think it's very silly of Paolini to write it this way, but that's how it's going to go down.


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Eragon has said that he never will take a mortal woman! Nasuada is mortal, so that rules her out.
And no! She won't be the next rider. Here is why.

What CP has said
1. CP has said that the rider will be "logic inevitability"
2. CP also mentioned that he hopes it will be a surprise.
At the time, the book we know now as Brisingr was supposed to be the final book of the series. Paolini decided to separate that book in two. Before Brisingr came most people didn’t though that it would be Arya. It was Roran. But after Brisingr was released, people have considered Arya much more likely, not just because of the events that took place in the book itself but Paolini's explanations of some of those certain scenes since then.
3. The rider has to have been in all three books so far.
4. CP has said that there is clues in the books about who the next rider is.
And the only thing that can count as clues for any character is the constant referring Arya with the colour Green. (the colour that the egg has)
5. CP has said that book four continues the adventures of Eragon, Saphira and Arya.
He didn’t just said Eragon and Saphira. He also said Arya. Take it for what you want.

Nasuada fails in being logic inevitability since she is way to weak to help as a rider. All humans would be to weak. Her job is to leading Varden. And then they are also at war. We don't have time for a nother Eldest book to train the new rider. And here comes the good part. CP has said that Arya was special traind by Oromis for many years. She is alredy exelent with boths sword and magic. Even better than Eragon in magic. And she has flying experience.

For the ones who want to ignore the fact that nasuada can't be the next rider here is more.

Eragon only loves Arya and his feelings for her has only developed. As for Arya it is obvious that she has feelings for him above just friendship. Take a look at all this.

Brisingr page 203 [English Version]
"I suppose, but, ah, how can I help it? She is the only woman I wish to be with."


Arya looked at him. Eragon met her gaze, and something lurched within him. He flushed without knowing why, feeling a sudden connection with her, a sense that she understood him better than anyone other than Saphira. His reaction confused him, for no one had affected him in that manner before.

Throughout the rest of the day, all Eragon had to do was think back on that moment to make himself smile and set his insides churning with a mixture of odd sensations he could not identify.
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"An ache formed in his chest as he listened to the gentle rise and fall of Arya's breathing. It tormented him to be so close and yet be unable to approach her."
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"Well, be that as it may, these are reasons you give me, Eragon, and the heart rarely listens to reason. Do you fancy her or not?"
If he fancied her any more, Saphira said to both Eragon and Roran, I'd be trying to kiss Arya myself.
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"With a sigh of impatience, she tapped her bodice. "A dress is somewhat breezier than a pair of leggings, Eragon."
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You should tend to that before we set forth." She gave him no time to respond but grasped his paralyzed fingers and said, "Waise heill." An involuntary groan escaped him as his fingers popped back into their sockes, and his abraded tendons and crushed cartilage regained the fullness of their proper shapes, and as the flaps of skin hanging from his knuckles again covered the raw flesh below.
"Thank you," he said. It surprised him that she had taken the initiative when he was perfectly capable of healing his own wounds. Arya seemed embarrassed. Looking away, out over the plains, she said, "I am glad you were by my side today, Eragon."
"And you by mine."
She favored him with a quick, uncertain smile. They lingered on the hillock for another minute, neither of them eager to resume their journey.
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She gave him a wan smile. "And then you came, Eragon. You and Saphira. After hope had deserted me and I was about to be taken to Galbatorix in Uru'baen, a Rider appeared to rescue me. A Rider and dragon!"
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"Reaching out, Eragon placed his right hand over her left. "The stories about the heroes of old never mention that this is the price you pay when you grapple with the monsters of the dark and the monsters of the mind. Keep thinking about the gardens of Tialdari Hall, and I'm sure you will be fine." Arya permitted the contact between them to endure for almost a minute, a time not of heat or passion for Eragon, but rather of quiet companionship.
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He cherished her trust more than anything besides his bond with Saphira and he would sooner march into battle than endanger it."
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"Satisfied with what he had wrought, he handed the lily to Arya. "It's not a white rose but..." He smiled and shrugged. "You should not have," she said. "But I am glad you did." She caressed the underside of the blossom and lifted it to smell. The lines on her face eased. For several minutes, she admired the lily."
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"She spoke to Arya with the same tone of affection that, until then, she had reserved for Eragon, as if she now considered Arua part of their small family and worthy of the same regard and intimacy as they shared."
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"Walking over to Saphira, Arya placed a hand on Eragon's left leg and looked up at him with her slanted green eyes. "Accept this from me, Shur'tugal," she said. And he felt a surge of energy flow into him.
"Eka elrun ono," he murmured to her.
Also in the ancient language, she said, "Be careful, Eragon. I would not want to see you broken by Murtagh. I..." It seemed as if she were going to say more, but she hesitated, then removed her hand from his leg and retreated to stand by Blödhgarm."
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"You should not abandon your guards so lightly," Arya murmured in Eragon's left ear. She wrapped her sword arm around his waist and held him tightly as Saphira wheeled above the courtyard."
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"Better?" he asked as the spell finished its work.
"Better," Arya whispered, and favored him with a weak smile."
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"Arya staggered as if she had been hit. "Ah," she said. She gripped the back of the chair so hard, her knuckles turned white. Tears filled her slanted eyes, then spilled over onto her cheeks and coursed down her face. "Eragon." She reached out and grasped his shoulder, and almost by accident, he found himself holding her in his arms."


And for you who says that it won't happend because Arya rejected him two times in Eldest, let me remind you that Eragon was an imature jerk who only lusted after her back then. In my eyes Arya even was to kind to him. And if you think that Eragon has given up on her:

Brisingr page 146 [English version]
"while Eragon refused to accept that his suit was hopeless, he could not think of how to proceed."


And if that isn't enogh here is CP confirming the AxE!

CP: And one of the nice things about their (Roran and Katrina's) relationship is when the series begins and when we first start seeing scenes from Roran's point of view in Eldest, he's already courted Katrina, he's already won Katrina and we don't need to see them going through that. They already have a relationship. Of course when he rescues her then in this book (Brisingr), it's just sort of a confirmation of what they both already knew. So I get to show a kind of different relationship with them then exists between say, Eragon and Arya, who are just sort of dancing around each other.

Moving on.....

We have seen both Eragon and Nasuada POVs. And neither of them has thought anything at all for the other above friendship. We do know that Eragon loves Arya and that they is closer than ever.
We do know that Nasuada is thinking of marry Orrin but only her courage has faild her so far.

And then there is Saphira. Arys is the ONLY one Saphira has accepted into their family.
Their family is Saphira, Eragon and Arya. Just as CP said.

And CP is puting Arya and Eragon on an even footing for a reason.
CP even created a shade and killed it after 5 pages only so they could have the same title.....
And they alredy share a special connection.

Then there is Angelas Prophecy ^^

An epic romance is in your future, extraordinary, as the moon indicates - for that is the magical symbol - strong enough to outlast empires. I cannot say if this passion will end happily, but your love is of noble birth and heritage. She is powerful, wise, and beautiful beyond compare.
When Eragon maid the fairth of Arya in Eldest he mad alomst an exact copy of the prophecy while describing her.


Nasuada is NOT of noble birth and heritage. She is only the leader of a very large group of rebels.

Since Eragon alredy has said that Arya is the most beautiful woman he ever has seen, Nasuada can't take her place in that matter. How can nasuada be beautiful beyond compare when he thinkst that Arya is more beautifull? Epic fail.
And Eragon said that after he met Nasuada. Eragon knows that Nasuada excist but for him Arya is the most beautiful woman ever.

How would NxE be an epic romance?
He knows nothing about her and he knows nothing about him.
Nasuada lives for the Varden and Eragon loves Arya.

Eragon and Arya alredy has a bound/conection he never can have with any other woman. They compleat eacothers. They know eacother better than Nasuada and Eragon can even hope for. Their is nothing epic with NxE. The only feeling there is there is me feeling sick and a need to vomit.

Moving on...
And besides why would CP transform Eragon into an half elf if he wanted Eragon to end up with a weak human? The difference is to big. Eragon would always be pointed out as different due to his look and life stile. CP could just had taken away the scar and find a nother way to make Eragon stronger. But he didn't. He made Eragon an half elf/hybrid. And that was only one of the many things he has been doing to put Arya and Eragon on an even footing. And there is a reason behind it.

Nasuada and Eragons only time together outside the politics, was something that CP never bother to describe. And Eragon comapred his time with Nasuada with his relationship with aunt Marrian.
Some time huh? [sarcasm]


Does any one understnads how ridiculous this sounds?
Eragon will sudenly stop loved Arya after that CP has spent two books on developing their relationship, made them closer than ever, is puting them on an eveing footing, shown that Arya has feeling above friendship and that they have a special conection only so eragon from no where would fall in love with Nasuada based on noting in the middle of book IV even tho Nasuada is mortal and Eragon clearly said that he NEVER would take a mortal woman.
Becuase that is what it is. The most ridiculous chain reaction in the history of the world.

Summarized.
Eragon and Nasuada will NOT happen.
Arya and Erago will on the other hand.

And please do note that every thing said here is pure fact and that there is no intentions to bash on any one. I juts simply stated the facts we are given and my opinion.

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One quick question; if it's logically inevitable then how can it be a surprise? Because logically it does fit that it would be Arya, but then that wouldn't be a surprise because so many people expect it to be her.

Another thing, I'm not sure how the whole next "Rider" thing is going to work because...well it did take a while for Saphira to even be able to fly with Eragon properly, so the hatching of the green dragon will more slow them down than aid them unless either a lot of time passes or they accelerate its growth, which we already know they wouldn't do.

I've had a thought. What if the green dragon hatches in the end of the last book, maybe for Elva or someone? I mean, like after the last battle, since Eragon is leaving and odds are Murtagh will be killed, as will Galbatorix, then there won't be any dragonriders left, so maybe as a bit of a parting gift, the egg will hatch for someone young.

That would also open up a faint possibility for Murtagh to live, because then if he actually does make it (Doubt it) he could train the newbie. That or the new rider could stay with the elves to learn. They could learn from Angela....or through life itself....not sure, but it's a thought.


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One quick question; if it's logically inevitable then how can it be a surprise? Because logically it does fit that it would be Arya, but then that wouldn't be a surprise because so many people expect it to be her.

CP said that he hoped that it would be a surprise 3 years ago before Brisingr had came.

The whole "logically inevitable" was added after Brisngr.

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Another thing, I'm not sure how the whole next "Rider" thing is going to work because...well it did take a while for Saphira to even be able to fly with Eragon properly, so the hatching of the green dragon will more slow them down than aid them unless either a lot of time passes or they accelerate its growth, which we already know they wouldn't do.

The green dragon needs 6 months before he can breath fire. But he can fly and fight and fly with Arya way before that. And that is with a normal speed.

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I've had a thought. What if the green dragon hatches in the end of the last book, maybe for Elva or someone? I mean, like after the last battle, since Eragon is leaving and odds are Murtagh will be killed, as will Galbatorix, then there won't be any dragonriders left, so maybe as a bit of a parting gift, the egg will hatch for someone young.

What CP has said.

1. CP has said that the rider will be "logic inevitability"
2. CP also mentioned that he hopes it will be a surprise.
At the time, the book we know now as Brisingr was supposed to be the final book of the series. Paolini decided to separate that book in two. Before Brisingr came most people didn’t though that it would be Arya. It was Roran. But after Brisingr was released, people have considered Arya much more likely, not just because of the events that took place in the book itself but Paolini's explanations of some of those certain scenes since then.
3. The rider has to have been in all three books so far.
4. CP has said that there is clues in the books about who the next rider is.
And the only thing that can count as clues for any character is the constant referring Arya with the colour Green. (the colour that the egg has)
5. CP has said that book four continues the adventures of Eragon, Saphira and Arya.
He didn’t just said Eragon and Saphira. He also said Arya. Take it for what you want.


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In the matter of logic inevitability.

Roran:
1. Roran has his family to live for. That would ruin his life with his family, causing him to outlive his wife (his entire world) and his child. Then his possible grandchildren, etc. Depressing much?
2. Then he could not be King, which is probably the leading theory under Roran - no immortal Rulers.
3. So far, his characterization has been developing his physical strength and leadership skills. No diplomatic skills or magical skills. If you were to use the stone argument, it could easily be countered with this - his failure at learning/using magic could be there to show his path will not be a magical one.
4. Is human - very strong, but only for a human. Could not compete with Galby or Murt.
5. On the "Rider blood" argument - blood is no real argument. CP has said that dragon does not choose because of families. He don’t even share that what you then should call rider blood. BromEragon MorzanMurtagh. Roran has no conection there.
6. We have no time to train him. How many books did it take Eragon to reach his current strength? We would need to teach Roran the customs of Riders, how to preform magic and control energy as well as the AL itself, etc. Not time.
7. Wields a hammer, not a sword. It’s a diffrent fighting skill.
8. Due to the above, he is not really "logically inevitable," no?

Orik:
1. He is a King. No immortal rulers, no? At least, not of a mortal race. Dwarves = mortal.
2. Yeah, he is also a Dwarf. Dwarves are not in the Pact, and there is not currently enough power to recast it. And honestly, why would it be recast now? In a time of war? Silly.
3. It would cause him to out live his wife/possible children as well.
4. Yes, we all know that he rode Saphira. But he didn't really seem too comfortable with 90% of the time. Yeah.
5. Size rations, anyone? He coulden’t even reach a Urgal from the back of a dragon.
6. Would require magical training.
7. Not "logically inevitable."

Angela:
1. Based on CP's sister as a kind of joke - she was obviously not meant to have an extreme role in the books. Like, I dunno, the Rider who will help save the dragon race and defeat the evil Empire.
2. Can use magic, but is very weak when it come to magic use. So she would still require magical training, which would make her weaker than all other Riders in the IC.
3. Is human - normal strength.
4. Does not fight with a sword. Minor, but still.
5. Is not "logically inevitable."

Nasuada:
1. She currently is leader of the Varden. That is a big enough responsibility in itself, yes?
2. She would require training in magic and as well in how to use a sword.
3. Is human - normal strength.
4. On magic, she loathes the stuff. That would cause a kind of conflict of interests, no?
5. Not "logically inevitable."

Elva:
1. Currently (physically) about 7 years old.
Not to mention that she is literally only about 1 year old.
2. No sympathies - why would she fight for the Varden at all? It would take some doing just to convince her to be on the "good side" (bleh) in the first place.
3. She would require training as well, both magically and with a blade.
4. Again, human. She could not compete physically just by her race, not to mention her age.
5. Unpredictable, to put it mildly.
6. Not "logically inevitable."

But let’s take a look at Arya.
1. The dream in Deathwatch. Two people, a man and woman, boarding a ship while two dragon circle above. Now, most think this is Eragon departing the land with the other Rider, their two dragons flying above. This, if true, indicates the Rider is female.
2. Eragon is in love with Arya, Greenie and Saphie will likely be mates. Fits together.
3. She requires less training, as we don't have time to train a new Rider.
4. She is elven and female. The other Riders are human and male. It evens it out a little bit.
5. As an elf, is of superior mental and physical strength - and with one book to go, this is definite advantage.
6. Green. She has green eyes, green magic, etc. CP has said that there was clues in the books about who the next rider will be.
7. CP is trying to put her and eragon on even footing. They have the same strength magically and physically, or close to it, both are Shadeslayers. So making her a dragon rider would be the last part.
8. She has been in all three books.
9. She IS "logically inevitable.

And for those who say that she will be the next queen, take a look at this:

Arya, page 309 of Eldest.
"If I had died in the course of my duty, then a replacement successor would have been chosen from among our various Houses. Even now I would not be required to become queen if I found the prospect distasteful. We do not choose leaders who are unwilling to devote themselves wholeheartedly to their obligation . . . I had many years to perfect those arguments with my mother"

Curfewdawn wrote:

That would also open up a faint possibility for Murtagh to live, because then if he actually does make it (Doubt it) he could train the newbie. That or the new rider could stay with the elves to learn. They could learn from Angela....or through life itself....not sure, but it's a thought.

The obvious thing to do don't always look or feels like the obvious. Especially not when it involves feelings. The Dwarfs can't forgive Murtagh, and Eragon can't go back on his word to them. The elves will have problem to forgive him for Oromis and Glaedr. And since the elves also are immortals they are not the most forgiving race. The fall and Morzans doing still burns in them. It might seem wrong to let Murtagh suffer for that (and it is) but feelings are never easy to control. The Varden sees him as Galbys greats and most fearful tools. They don't knows Murtagh's story. They only know of his doing against them.
He is there enemy. I don't know how the situation is with the Urgals, but he already have the other races against him. And Eragon can't really afford to put his own life at stake trying to save him.

Murtagh has to look up for him self. The poor bloke only have him self and Thorn for the moment =/ And even if he manage to change his true name and would be willing to fight for the Varden I highly doubt that he would be welcome <__<

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Believe me Librarian, I want you to be right but I don't trust Paolini.


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I think it's Arya without a doubt. :D

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