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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
it is extremely unlikely that he knows about every Rider that ever existed... they don't have to be written down for them to have been there :roll:

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
gomenesigh wrote:
Remember not to spam. You have to explain why you agree with them. I don't think she is a dragon rider because she wouldn't keep something like that from Eragon and Oromis would have remembered her more and Eragon would know because he has read about previous riders.

All right i agree with her because i think that what she said is right?Ok now?

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Glad you agree!! She obviously is not just a just a human, so what do think she is?

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She is a human. There is nothing else she can be.

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if she is a human she's a rider also :)

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No she isn't. She does not have to be both.

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ok so she 100+ yeaer old human thats totally normal(with tons of sarcasam) :roll:

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She doesn't have to be normal to still be a human. We already know that Angela is very different from other people.

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okay where does she get the power to contine living i mean vegies are good for you but they can only go so far :lol:

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She is a magician. She could use her potions and plants and make different kinds of things.

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I don't think she's just a human.

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Me neither,She is not a rider for sure but she can't be a human.

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yeah like i said vegies or go only so far :lol: :lol:

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Well there is nothing else she can be. She in not an elf or the fair folk or a dragon or an urgal or a dwarf and there can't be a race that no one has heard of before. She can still be human. You all underestimate how powerful she is. She has been all over Alagaesia. She knows much much more than normal humans. Dragons could have given her a longer life span.

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but why would a dragon do that? :)

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I've heard people say that maybe she's one of the Grey Folk.

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She can't be one of the Grey Folk. They know that they died off.

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How are they supposed to know that they all died?

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It's been verified. It's been studied.

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yet they made up the al they could do anything almost they could easly hide :)

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They did not make up the AL. You cannot make something that already existed. They were the first race to use the AL and set up parameters for it.

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they made up the al then made it so that the magic was controlled by thier langage.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
The ancient language used to be spoken by all living things throughout the world. It used to be just what the name implies - simply a language. However, after magic had wreaked havoc in the world, the Grey Folk performed a powerful and complicated spell that bonded magic and the ancient language together, so that the former could be performed by speaking the right words in the latter without any confusion and chaos.

No they didn't. Go back and read the books. They clearly say that the Grey Folk used the AL not created it.

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The AL was the language that everybody used to speak. Gomenesigh is right, the Grey Folk did not make it up. I think that some of the Greyv Folk could still be around.

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the al just didn't pop into existance it evovled just like english :)

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But like I said, the Grey Folk did not create it. If you really insist on arguing, go back and read the books. They clearly talk about this.

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if the grey folk didn't think of the al then there would have to be something that made it up :)

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Nothing made it up. It just existed. Like animals or people. It is magic and it can't be explained.

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no in brising oramis say that 'the grey folk bond magic to their langage the al' which they made up

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How can a language Just existeed all the time without anone making it?

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it can't thanks for agreeing :)

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Languages are developed over time. They aren't just made up. If they were just made up, then how would anyone learn them? :)

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
The AL is different from other languages though. The AL isn't just a language, it's part of something more. It's a part of everything that is represents and its like saying that people developed those things over time too.

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how many times do i have to say it 'the grey folk bound magic to their langrage before it was a ordanairy langage'

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That I understand. People are saying that the AL was just made up.

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The AL existed before the Grey Fold bound it with magic.

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Exactly. How did we get onto thir topic anyway?

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gnomensigh: that's what i have been tring to say

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Neither do I. :lol:
ON TOPIC: I don't think that Angela will be a rider.

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niether do i :) .


offtopic i'll try to find out how.

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Somebody agrees!!!! Why did anybody think that she would be in the first place?

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i don't know i can kinda see why they would though, hard to explain

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I do too. It would be the oddest choice in rider though.

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not the wierdist it could be that lady in council of elders :lol:

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Now that would be weird. :lol:
Do you think Islanzadi would be weirder(this is probably the wrong word to use)?
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no she is an elf orik wife would be weird :lol:

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Extremely weird.

Nar Garzhog would be weird.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
I think Angela may have already been a rider. In the first book, when eragon was in Terim and angela read the dragon bones for him, she told him that where she got the bones was a secret. Maybe after her dragon died?

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I've thought about that too. I would explain her knowing about magic and her long life. Wouldn't Glaedr and Oromis know more about her if she was a rider?

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They could have been sworn to secrecy, since she does not reveal much about her life to anyone.

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I didn't think about that.

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It could be possible, because Oromis didn't reveal much himself sooo, he could have know, and possibly Brom.

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Wouldn't he have recognized her?

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He could have hidden it. He seems that he would be able to do that rather well.

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Yes, he probably could. That might have been how she knew she should go to the Varden.

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Yes you are right, Brom was pretty good at hiding things and we must remember Angela's reaction when she heard that he was in Terim. They were probably a new batch of riders that had ill fortune.

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You think that she was a rider at the same time as Brom?

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Probably, she might be around his age more or less, and she said herslef that she was not as young as she looks, because of all of her herbs.

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How old do you think Brom really was?

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I'm really not surem is gives me a brain fart. :lol: :lol:

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He was probably somewhere close to 100.

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He was because he was around when the riders fell.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
True, then he must be over one hundred years old! Because the riders fell a long while before and he must have been at least 27-33 years old.

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February 10th, 2010, 8:16 pm Profile
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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Ancient. To think that Selena liked him.

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February 11th, 2010, 4:13 am Profile
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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Huh, well, we don't know how old she was.

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February 11th, 2010, 3:14 pm Profile
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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
She couldn't have been any older than 30 or so.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
I think she was a little older than thirty. Maybe mid thirties or so.

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how do you know.

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February 12th, 2010, 4:16 am Profile
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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
gomenesigh wrote:
I think she was a little older than thirty. Maybe mid thirties or so.



Yes, that may be an approximate age. :?

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
That's probably about it. She can't have been any older though.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Angela was a mystery character, guys. She is mentioned inn Eldest by an elf in Ellesmera. idk exactly when, but i remember the passage.

She was in Ellesmera CENTURYS before.

btw i am Angela_For_Ryder. new name, same face and hands behind the laptop.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
So, if she's centuries old, then she can't be human. No human can live that long.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
You don't know that. If she has been to Ellesmera she is obviously trusted and special but that doesn't mean she has to be another race than human. She could have been blessed by dragons like Eragon or she might have discovered some kind of secret to longer life.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Or she may even be half elf! That would ebinteresting, I mean, Oromis knew her, by a different name, so that links her to the important elves straight away. And its been mentioned that there were a few elf/human relationships..... and we dont know if they can have children, but wouldnt it be fitting if Angela was one of these children from an elf/human coupling?

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
That actually would make a ton of sense.

It might help to explain why she is bonded with Solembum, too.

Random thought: Solembum was a dragon she transformed into a werecat. I have nothing to support it but it would be cool for obvious reasons.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
It couldnt be Angela, CP had already had all three books outlined before he even came out with the first book he even states that Angela was added along the way.
It would've severely altered the trilogy now inheritance cycle.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
eragon+arya wrote:
So, if she's centuries old, then she can't be human. No human can live that long.

She knows every single sort of herb in Alageasia. Maybe she found some long-life herb or her teacher has found and told her - if we can trust her words, he's a genius.
Also, about the statement she cannot use magic: remember that her teacher has some very rare scrolls of the ancient language. In my opinion that means he's a sorcerrer. And he wouldn't pick her as his apprentice if she wasn't sorcerress too. And she knows some way to protect herself from Elva. Also, to gain Solembum's trust and friendship, she has to be special. She may has been created as an amusing character at first, but this character has a potential to evolve into some important character - she's mysterious, smart, she has very unusual 'pet'. We know that she's been trained by a very wise man. She has access to Elesmera and she's more skilled with the blade than the dwarves.


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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
*facepalms* I really doubt there is an herb that grants long life. If there was it would probably be extinct by now. And yes, I'm saying that people probably knew about it. If one person managed to use it then the tale would spread the other people.

And look at the other facts, a werecat following her around, she's been to Ellesmera, she knows things no human should know....... She just isn't human.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Angela wont be the rider. I'm guessing we will learn a lot about her in the 4th book though. And as to those who think she is a werecat: It's possible but I doubt it because in Brisingr she refers to herself as a human.

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Post Re: Angela For Rider!!
Not to mention that werecats have distinguishing features eragon noticed right away that Solembum was a werecat when he first saw him. (when they were getting the records for the seithr oil)

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