Last visit was: less than a minute ago It is currently February 9th, 2019, 1:14 pm

All times are UTC





 [ 24 posts ] 
 Dragons die when their rider dies?? 
Author Message
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: December 21st, 2006, 4:51 am
Posts: 1
Post Dragons die when their rider dies??
Did anyone else find this bothersome. I really liked that the dragons were a proud and important species. The idea introduced by the movie version that dragons only live as long their riders live seems to de-value them. it is the idea that they exist for us rather than in their own right . Not as enlightened as the book. So many changes that were really unnecessary. I know some of you like the movie. Wish I did. Too fast, too wrong, stilted dialogue, hard to follow, unbelievable. Lord of the Rings and the Harry Potter films did a much better job of staying true to the books.

DILLY


December 21st, 2006, 5:03 am Profile
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: December 18th, 2006, 10:24 am
Posts: 27
Post 
Maybe the film producers have done it for a dramatic ending to one of the next films ...

Maybe the rider and his dragon become separated, the camera pans in for a close-up of the dragon, the dragon (who’s not fatally wounded) dies, so you know the rider has too. I can already feel my eyes watering!!!

BTW … I agree. The first part of this trilogy was a poor visual representation of the film, and will probably not increase the number of people who read the books.


December 21st, 2006, 8:53 am Profile
DragonRider
DragonRider

Joined: December 6th, 2006, 3:37 am
Posts: 792
Location: dallas
Post Re: Dragons die when their rider dies??
Dilly wrote:
Did anyone else find this bothersome. I really liked that the dragons were a proud and important species. The idea introduced by the movie version that dragons only live as long their riders live seems to de-value them. it is the idea that they exist for us rather than in their own right . Not as enlightened as the book. So many changes that were really unnecessary. I know some of you like the movie. Wish I did. Too fast, too wrong, stilted dialogue, hard to follow, unbelievable. Lord of the Rings and the Harry Potter films did a much better job of staying true to the books.

DILLY


i agree on that the movie sucked, but not the thing about dragons, when a dragon or rider dies, there is like a 95 % chance their partner dies, and it goes both ways.

_________________
"The future doesn't exist and never shall." - Saphira


Image <---- Bowser the Burrito

Image

:idea: <------ The idea smiley looks like a surprised cyclops!

(\../)
(0.0)
(")(")
It's a bunny. Im not going to tell you to copy and paste him for world domination. he's my bunny.


I am CP's best friend. He says I am right about everything.

Image
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy

Image




Chetowävarden

The Guarding Sage


December 21st, 2006, 10:17 am Profile
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: December 18th, 2006, 10:24 am
Posts: 27
Post 
I don't think so ... at least not from the direction the movie's taking us ... Brom lived!!!


December 21st, 2006, 12:08 pm Profile
Master DragonRider
Master DragonRider
User avatar

Joined: March 12th, 2006, 2:27 pm
Posts: 2066
Location: Somewhere between screen and chair...
Gender: Guy
Post 
95% :wink: Means Brom could survived :P

_________________
Image


December 21st, 2006, 12:35 pm Profile
DragonRider
DragonRider

Joined: October 30th, 2006, 2:40 am
Posts: 738
Location: at my house. its not like i ever go anywhere. my life is misery... except when i'm on saphira forums
Post 
no that's not true, they just put that in so they wouldn't have to make a bond between eragon and saphira.

_________________
[url="http://shruikanforums.com/"]I suppose i wont see you for a while, so avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax and look on the bright side of life! - Angela

oooooooopps - Saphira. Right after she blows fire on eragon

I am only safe in my innermost thoughts - Murtagh

(\_/)
(O.o)
(")(")
its bunny!!!! add him to ur signature for world domination!

arya is not going to be the next rider!!! (but i'm not sure who is, probly roran)

http://hubpages.com/hub/Seized-Vehicle-Auctions


December 21st, 2006, 4:32 pm Profile
Dragon Egg Carrier
Dragon Egg Carrier

Joined: December 20th, 2006, 5:37 pm
Posts: 153
Location: On a football field, playing football, or watching football.
Post 
Both dragon and rider can live if either dies, in the book it tries to say it is nearly unbearable to live on without your partner, so they usually end up dying.

_________________
Image
LT is the man.
If we knew all of gods reasons for doing things, then we would be god.
You cry, I cry
You laugh, I laugh
I fall off a bridge, you laugh even harder.
If your not going to say anything nice, at least make it funny.
Hey did you guys know I like football?
A good friend will bail you out of jail, but a best friend will be sitting right next to you, saying, "MAN! that was fun!"
Arya is HOT! (but not in the movie)
Never tell me the odds...


December 21st, 2006, 4:45 pm Profile
DragonRider
DragonRider

Joined: October 30th, 2006, 2:40 am
Posts: 738
Location: at my house. its not like i ever go anywhere. my life is misery... except when i'm on saphira forums
Post 
but probly because they kill themselves, not death of depreshion

_________________
[url="http://shruikanforums.com/"]I suppose i wont see you for a while, so avoid roasted cabbage, don't eat earwax and look on the bright side of life! - Angela

oooooooopps - Saphira. Right after she blows fire on eragon

I am only safe in my innermost thoughts - Murtagh

(\_/)
(O.o)
(")(")
its bunny!!!! add him to ur signature for world domination!

arya is not going to be the next rider!!! (but i'm not sure who is, probly roran)

http://hubpages.com/hub/Seized-Vehicle-Auctions


December 21st, 2006, 4:49 pm Profile
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: September 16th, 2006, 1:23 pm
Posts: 8
Location: Behind You
Post 
Your right, the movie doesnt leave room for wild and proud dragons

_________________
Image


January 5th, 2007, 3:25 pm Profile
Wise DragonRider
Wise DragonRider
User avatar

Joined: February 22nd, 2006, 10:41 pm
Posts: 1479
Location: Earth
Gender: Guy
Post 
oh yeah
no offence on different topic but wats up wit the razac arent they supposed to be under cloaks?
and
wer is katrina?

_________________
Respect a dragon
and it will respect
you

Image
[url=http://www.pickle-green.com/egraphics/main.php?id=eggs][img]
http://www.boomspeed.com/egraphics/91787.gif[/img][/url]
Image
Image
http://world3.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=38038410
Image
[CENTER]ImageTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/CENTER]


January 8th, 2007, 5:29 am Profile
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: January 1st, 2007, 2:14 am
Posts: 26
Location: In the spine hunting for animals.
Post 
It's like this rider if the rider dies, the dragon dies because Brom said when he killed Morzan his dragon died at the same moment. If the dragon dies, the rider lives because Brom's dragon died protecting him from one of Galbatorix's blows. If both are alive both will live for a very long time.

_________________
Brom rules! He is my favorite character, and eragon would be nothing without him.


January 13th, 2007, 3:09 am Profile
BAD EMAIL
BAD EMAIL

Joined: August 10th, 2006, 10:15 pm
Posts: 279
Location: where the side walk ends
Post 
I think the movies make the dragons seem like their not as important
in the books Eragon and Saphira were Partners not a Rider and his dragon
it seems like Saphira isn't as important as Eragon and that makes me MAD

_________________
"Strength does not come from physical capsity. It comes from indomitable will." Ghandi

Image

Image
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy


January 13th, 2007, 9:36 pm Profile
Peasant
Peasant

Joined: January 21st, 2007, 6:03 pm
Posts: 50
Post 
yer dragons die if there rider dies but if they die then there rider does not thats why the dragons are ment too protect there rider not there rider protect them.


January 21st, 2007, 6:42 pm Profile
BAD EMAIL
BAD EMAIL

Joined: December 29th, 2006, 11:21 pm
Posts: 600
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow <3
Post 
Well if that's the case, why didn't Galby's now-dragon die when he stole it from it's original rider and killed the rider?

_________________
Image Image Image Image Image Image
Image Image Image Image Image


January 22nd, 2007, 1:26 am Profile
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: May 14th, 2007, 4:56 am
Posts: 9
Post 
It was put rather clear in both books, as the rider and dragon grow up together there 'Bond' gets stronger, when Galbys first dragon was killed he was in a depressed time (Think if Half of your self was to Vanish in mid-air) the 2nd rider wasnt with his dragon for to long and if galby didnt use dark magic his dragon wouldnt follow what he says (isnt as strong as any other riders as well, it is a counterfit you could say...


May 14th, 2007, 5:25 am Profile
Sovereign DragonRider
Sovereign DragonRider
User avatar

Joined: February 8th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Posts: 3880
Location: In a romance story
Gender: Girl
Affiliation: Dragonriders
Post Re: Dragons die when their rider dies??
Dilly wrote:
Did anyone else find this bothersome. I really liked that the dragons were a proud and important species. The idea introduced by the movie version that dragons only live as long their riders live seems to de-value them. it is the idea that they exist for us rather than in their own right . Not as enlightened as the book. So many changes that were really unnecessary. I know some of you like the movie. Wish I did. Too fast, too wrong, stilted dialogue, hard to follow, unbelievable. Lord of the Rings and the Harry Potter films did a much better job of staying true to the books.

DILLY


I agree but the part about the dragons living as long as their riders is true. That part was in the books. If the rider dies...so does their dragon, but if the dragon dies the rider lives on.

_________________
My fanfictions are here http://www.fanfiction.net/~serena530 check it out if you want
They consist of: SailorMoon, Samurai Deeper Kyo, Blue Bloods, Yuyu Hakusho, and The Inheritance Cycle


May 14th, 2007, 5:49 am Profile
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: May 14th, 2007, 4:56 am
Posts: 9
Post Re: Dragons die when their rider dies??
I agree but the part about the dragons living as long as their riders is true. That part was in the books. If the rider dies...so does their dragon, but if the dragon dies the rider lives on.[/quote]

it is a fact of the bond. with Galbys 2nd dragon if i am wrong then 'Why didnt he die?' He was young and with a weak bond and didnt get to learn much of eachother....


May 14th, 2007, 6:10 am Profile
Sovereign DragonRider
Sovereign DragonRider
User avatar

Joined: February 8th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Posts: 3880
Location: In a romance story
Gender: Girl
Affiliation: Dragonriders
Post 
I think it might be because of the dark magic that Galby used on Shruikan. Maybe when Galby is destroyed the effect of the dark magic will wear off and shruikan will die or maybe Shruikan will just go and be a wild dragon if he doesn't die. Finally giving him a chance to be free and happy.

_________________
My fanfictions are here http://www.fanfiction.net/~serena530 check it out if you want
They consist of: SailorMoon, Samurai Deeper Kyo, Blue Bloods, Yuyu Hakusho, and The Inheritance Cycle


May 14th, 2007, 6:53 am Profile
Green Dragon
Green Dragon

Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm
Posts: 8229
Gender: Guy
Post 
Dragons die once thier riders die, plain and simple.

_________________
Image[URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL


May 18th, 2007, 1:51 am Profile
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: June 15th, 2007, 8:28 am
Posts: 9
Gender: Guy
Post Re: Dragons die when their rider dies??
Hey people, you know...How's that. I wished Brom lived. He was a great guy, yer know. And...who watched the movie? at last, Galbatorix was angry about the winning of the fight with the Vardens and Eragon. Then,Galbatorix used his sword and ripped of the wall, and then, a dragon came out. Galbatorix was perhaps the most powerful Dragon Rider. Do you think Eragon and Saphria can win? :?


June 15th, 2007, 8:39 am Profile
Green Dragon
Green Dragon

Joined: July 11th, 2006, 2:35 pm
Posts: 8229
Gender: Guy
Post Re: Dragons die when their rider dies??
Probably seeing as he is the main character and he is leaving Alageasia.

_________________
Image[URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.[/URL


June 15th, 2007, 3:47 pm Profile
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: July 11th, 2007, 8:45 pm
Posts: 2
Gender: Guy
Post Re: Dragons die when their rider dies??
2 b honest i dont reckon dragons hav 2 die wen their rider dies because otherwise there would've been no dragons except those in eggs b4 teh riders because wild dragons couldn't exist wivout teh riders. so if wild dragons survived without riders y couldn't the others?
I reckon galby's dragon only survived cuz of the black magin galby used cuz wivout it shruikan would've died wen Galby killed his uva rider unless of corse shruikan was an evil dragon 2 begin with and thought hey galby seems like a nice bloke lets kill this uva dude and go wiv galby. but athst unliekly. :D


July 11th, 2007, 9:05 pm Profile
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: April 1st, 2008, 7:22 pm
Posts: 24
Gender: Girl
Post Re: Dragons die when their rider dies??
You think???

_________________
If what it is knows you, but you dont know it, you'd better run.


April 9th, 2008, 7:11 pm Profile
New Peasant
New Peasant

Joined: April 1st, 2008, 7:22 pm
Posts: 24
Gender: Girl
Post Re: Dragons die when their rider dies??
eragon66 wrote:
2 b honest i dont reckon dragons hav 2 die wen their rider dies because otherwise there would've been no dragons except those in eggs b4 teh riders because wild dragons couldn't exist wivout teh riders. so if wild dragons survived without riders y couldn't the others?
I reckon galby's dragon only survived cuz of the black magin galby used cuz wivout it shruikan would've died wen Galby killed his uva rider unless of corse shruikan was an evil dragon 2 begin with and thought hey galby seems like a nice bloke lets kill this uva dude and go wiv galby. but athst unliekly. :D


If a dragon doesnt have a rider, it doesnt have a bond, therefore will not die when the rider does.

_________________
If what it is knows you, but you dont know it, you'd better run.


April 9th, 2008, 7:13 pm Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 Page 1 of 1  [ 24 posts ]

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: HTTrack and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Copyright © 2004 - 2012 SaphiraForums - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group.
Template by Vjacheslav Trushkin - Modified by SaphiraForums.
Privacy Policy