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IgnasiaEldrvarya96
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
ya all evidence points to that.
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July 26th, 2009, 4:41 pm |
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aluminiumclock
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Except you forgot the small detail that elves don't practice marriage.
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July 26th, 2009, 4:57 pm |
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IgnasiaEldrvarya96
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
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July 30th, 2009, 4:09 pm |
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Vagabond
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
I think that they will finally be together in the fourth book.Arya's character has changed a lot in brisignr and i think that he is in love with Eragon but she doesn't want to show it to him.They don't have to get married.It's not necessary if they share the same surname,They're both shadeslayers so that propably show's something about he future.
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January 15th, 2010, 7:40 pm |
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Curfewdawn
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Beh, I think she's going to marry Solembum or Murtagh, then Eragon is going to freak out and go all emo and then he's going to reallize what he's been missing, that Angela is perfect for him! But then Nasuada (The witch) is going to get jealous and there'll be a shakedown and Solembum is going to marry Angela, then Eragon is going to wind up with...............................................................................................
No one. AHHAAHHAHAHAAHHAAAAA!
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July 13th, 2010, 3:49 pm |
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webgrrl8501
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
I think that she doesn't want to like Eragon back because she might feel like if she does she will be saying that Eragon is better that him.
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August 3rd, 2010, 5:59 pm |
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solembumer
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Curfewdawn wrote: Beh, I think she's going to marry Solembum or Murtagh, then Eragon is going to freak out and go all emo and then he's going to reallize what he's been missing, that Angela is perfect for him! But then Nasuada (The witch) is going to get jealous and there'll be a shakedown and Solembum is going to marry Angela, then Eragon is going to wind up with...............................................................................................
No one. AHHAAHHAHAHAAHHAAAAA!
XD That's just screwed up.
Anyways, Nasuada is with Murtagh, and Arya was with Fayolin. Arya isn't getting over him, so I guess it's a stalemate. She refuses to grow attached to another man and that's that. She says so herself.
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August 21st, 2010, 4:50 pm |
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Vrail
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
all true but in brisingr there are parts that show them growing closer
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August 21st, 2010, 4:57 pm |
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The Librarian
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
solembumer wrote: Anyways, Nasuada is with Murtagh,
They are at war in opposite sides. Nasuada is not with Murtagh. solembumer wrote: and Arya was with Fayolin.
His name was Fäolin..... And don't think that you know. We ONLY know what we are told. And all we have been told is that they where friends and companions. solembumer wrote: Arya isn't getting over him,
That is not true. Ever since the end of Eldest, Arya did started to open her self up to Eragon. Eragon is the one who heals her heart. The gestures she had done speaks for the self. You should tend to that before we set forth." She gave him no time to respond but grasped his paralyzed fingers and said, "Waise heill." An involuntary groan escaped him as his fingers popped back into their sockes, and his abraded tendons and crushed cartilage regained the fullness of their proper shapes, and as the flaps of skin hanging from his knuckles again covered the raw flesh below. "Thank you," he said. It surprised him that she had taken the initiative when he was perfectly capable of healing his own wounds. Arya seemed embarrassed. Looking away, out over the plains, she said, "I am glad you were by my side today, Eragon." "And you by mine." She favored him with a quick, uncertain smile. They lingered on the hillock for another minute, neither of them eager to resume their journey. --------------------------- "Walking over to Saphira, Arya placed a hand on Eragon's left leg and looked up at him with her slanted green eyes. "Accept this from me, Shur'tugal," she said. And he felt a surge of energy flow into him. "Eka elrun ono," he murmured to her. Also in the ancient language, she said, "Be careful, Eragon. I would not want to see you broken by Murtagh. I..." It seemed as if she were going to say more, but she hesitated, then removed her hand from his leg and retreated to stand by Blödhgarm." --------------------------- "You should not abandon your guards so lightly," Arya murmured in Eragon's left ear. She wrapped her sword arm around his waist and held him tightly as Saphira wheeled above the courtyard." --------------------------- "Better?" he asked as the spell finished its work. "Better," Arya whispered, and favored him with a weak smile." --------------------------- "Arya staggered as if she had been hit. "Ah," she said. She gripped the back of the chair so hard, her knuckles turned white. Tears filled her slanted eyes, then spilled over onto her cheeks and coursed down her face. "Eragon." She reached out and grasped his shoulder, and almost by accident, he found himself holding her in his arms." If that isn't enough, here is CP confirming it: CP: And one of the nice things about their (Roran and Katrina's) relationship is when the series begins and when we first start seeing scenes from Roran's point of view in Eldest, he's already courted Katrina, he's already won Katrina and we don't need to see them going through that. They already have a relationship. Of course when he rescues her then in this book (Brisingr), it's just sort of a confirmation of what they both already knew. So I get to show a kind of different relationship with them then exists between say, Eragon and Arya, who are just sort of dancing around each other.solembumer wrote: so I guess it's a stalemate. She refuses to grow attached to another man and that's that. She says so herself.
And that is a freaking lie! Arya has NEVER said that. Get your information right or cut of the lies!
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December 24th, 2010, 12:33 am |
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Curfewdawn
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Ah, but she DID say that she wasn't having any of the shipping business, regardless of wording, she did indeed tell him that it's impossible for them to be together.I don't really approve of their shipping, mainly because of the age difference, and I think that if I had to ship Eragon with anyone it would be Angela, not not Arya. Even if Eragon is sort of immortal now, he's a baby compared to Arya in that Arya has already been alive for so much longer than he has. Quote: And that is a freaking lie! Arya has NEVER said that. Get your information right or cut of the lies!
There was no lie. Just a statement, maybe worded differently than the real facts, but still. A lie is the intentional changing of information to cover something.
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February 15th, 2011, 7:45 pm |
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The Librarian
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Curfewdawn wrote: Ah, but she DID say that she wasn't having any of the shipping business, regardless of wording, she did indeed tell him that it's impossible for them to be together. She said so for the time being. Weather people realize it or not things and people do change. Arya said that it never could happen. And she was right. During that time Eragon only lusted for her. He was also a weak human. He didn't even knew her as a person. Curfewdawn wrote: I don't really approve of their shipping, mainly because of the age difference, Since neither of them are humans nor mortals you should not compared them there after. Humans and elves may look alike but they are two different races. It would honestly be like comparing a human with a dragonfly in reall life. We live for around 70-90 years while the dragonfly only lives for a few days. the age difference for humans in young and old are 20 years to 80 years. In elven standards you are still you when you are 80. If we look at what old and young in elven standards I will take Vanir and Rhunön as examples. Vanir according to CP are about 200 years and consts as young. Rhunön who counts as old are over 2700 years old. The difference between you and old in elven standards are 25 generations of humans. Arya and Eragon are at the same age mentally and physically. They are both young adults. Both of them have centuries ahead of them to live. Curfewdawn wrote: and I think that if I had to ship Eragon with anyone it would be Angela, not not Arya.
What a double moral from your side =/ You say that you don't like the AxE due to the age but have the guts to say that Angela would work? Dude. She is older than Arya. While we don't know her exact age, Oromis confirmed that Angela visited Du Weldenvarden many years before this happened. And by her own words to Nasuada don't take her for what she looks. And this relation would also imply incest. Eragon is based on CP and Angela on his sister. Curfewdawn wrote: Even if Eragon is sort of immortal now, he's a baby compared to Arya in that Arya has already been alive for so much longer than he has.
The only thing Arya has that Eragon dosn't in this matter is life experience. Other wise they both are young adults. After 2500 years Arya would be 2580 something and Eragon 2517. Age is not a problem when you are immortals. Curfewdawn wrote: There was no lie. Just a statement, maybe worded differently than the real facts, but still. A lie is the intentional changing of information to cover something. Bad choice of word from my side. That statement is completely wrong since Arya never has said that.
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February 15th, 2011, 9:59 pm |
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Curfewdawn
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Oh my, I forgot that Angela is a bit of an odd case. I keep thinking that she's human. What exactly is she though, and is she also immortal or part of a different race entirely? I didn't mean to have a contradiction in my statements, just got a little off track about Angela.
We still don't, that I'm aware of, have her current opinion on the matter of whether she thinks that herself and Eragon are alright together, which means that her previous opinion, until expressed otherwise, is what I'll stand by.
But since Eragon hasn't been immortal for very long, he's only around twenty, which would qualify him as a baby in elf years, though he appears fully grown as a human. If he'd been immortal this whole time, then maybe he and Arya would be on a level playing field. But since his immortality was only recently gained, to me that would be like a thirty year old dating a fifteen year old, in terms of mental/emotional places between the two of them.
On the thing of Angela and Eragon again, who they're based on doesn't really seem a factor to me. If they aren't related in the book, why then would it make any difference, other than that it would be creepy for CP to write about a character assosiated with his sister in a romantic way? It wouldn't technically be incest, because they, Chris and his sister, aren't really romantically involved. Only their unrelated characters are.
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February 15th, 2011, 10:25 pm |
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The Librarian
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
First off. Dude! Whats up with color change? o.O Curfewdawn wrote: Oh my, I forgot that Angela is a bit of an odd case. I keep thinking that she's human. If I don't remember wrong I think that CP confirmed that she was a human. By all means, not a normal one. But still. Not sure tho =/ Curfewdawn wrote: What exactly is she though, and is she also immortal or part of a different race entirely? I didn't mean to have a contradiction in my statements, just got a little off track about Angela.
Don't worry. Angela is Angela Curfewdawn wrote: We still don't, that I'm aware of, have her current opinion on the matter of whether she thinks that herself and Eragon are alright together, which means that her previous opinion, until expressed otherwise, is what I'll stand by. I'm confused... Exactly what are you saying? o.O Curfewdawn wrote: But since Eragon hasn't been immortal for very long, he's only around twenty, which would qualify him as a baby in elf years, though he appears fully grown as a human. Eragon are not in any way a baby in the eyes of the elves. Oromis couldn't teach him any more, Vanir can't beat him and he has been through more than any person would have in a life time. Is mentality, strength, speed, and every thing else makes him a young adult. Even his experience. Curfewdawn wrote: If he'd been immortal this whole time, then maybe he and Arya would be on a level playing field.
That make no sense so what ever! Even if he was born immortal he would still be at the same age and he would still be immortal. Like he is now. he would be immortal and in the same age in both scenarios. Curfewdawn wrote: But since his immortality was only recently gained, to me that would be like a thirty year old dating a fifteen year old, in terms of mental/emotional places between the two of them.
In human terms that would be awkward. But you my friend needs to understand that they are elves. The difference between old and young in elves terms are 25 human generations. It's that huge. 80 years in elven standards are nothing. Curfewdawn wrote: On the thing of Angela and Eragon again, who they're based on doesn't really seem a factor to me. If they aren't related in the book, why then would it make any difference, other than that it would be creepy for CP to write about a character assosiated with his sister in a romantic way? True enough. But Angela is older and by far more weird and creepy. She was intruded as a joke as well =/ Curfewdawn wrote: It wouldn't technically be incest, because they, Chris and his sister, aren't really romantically involved. Only their unrelated characters are.
But any way, Eragon has made it clear that Arya is the ONLY one he wants and that he ain't giving up on her.
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February 15th, 2011, 10:50 pm |
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
CD is changing colors because she's CD and doesn't feeling adapting to the norm.
Librarian, you're really starting to annoy some people.This forum is made for discussing eragon, but i think you're taking it a little far when it comes to dozens of page-long posts. Sheesh... CD and various others happen to think that arya and eragon won't get together, or they just plain don't like arya. I happen to be one of those people. You don't have to prove to the world that arya is awesome and she's going to marry eragon.
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February 15th, 2011, 10:59 pm |
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The Librarian
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
crazydragongirl wrote: CD is changing colors because she's CD and doesn't feeling adapting to the norm. Ok. crazydragongirl wrote: Librarian, you're really starting to annoy some people.
I haven't forced any one to read my posts. crazydragongirl wrote: This forum is made for discussing eragon, but i think you're taking it a little far when it comes to dozens of page-long posts.
Well.... it is a matter of opinion. While you see that as to much, I see the opposite as pointless. crazydragongirl wrote: Sheesh... CD and various others happen to think that arya and eragon won't get together, or they just plain don't like arya.
I like to argue. And I do so in topics I care about. Most of the times there are reasons behind the opinions. I like to discus them. crazydragongirl wrote: I happen to be one of those people.
Your point being? crazydragongirl wrote: You don't have to prove to the world that arya is awesome and she's going to marry eragon.
What is the reason for this kind of topics then?
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February 15th, 2011, 11:11 pm |
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Curfewdawn
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Quote: First off. Dude! Whats up with color change? o.O Well, it's because I like red and I like blue as well, so I switch out. Been doing it for a few days now. Quote: Curfewdawn wrote: We still don't, that I'm aware of, have her current opinion on the matter of whether she thinks that herself and Eragon are alright together, which means that her previous opinion, until expressed otherwise, is what I'll stand by.
I'm confused... Exactly what are you saying? o.O
I'm saying that the last opinion we read from her, that I know of, was the one where she said she and Eragon can't be together. Until she says otherwise, I stand by the last opinion she gave.I think I worded my thing about Eragons' age incorrectly; I meant, regardless of his immortality, he's still only twenty years old. Being immortal doesn't magically make him the same age as Arya. She may be the same age as him by her own time, but in his time, she's still entirely too old for him. Although now elf time applies to him as well, I don't think he's old enough for her. He has to see a lot of things to make up the difference in experiance.Ah, I like that about Angela being a joke! She is sort of a comic relief figure, even if she does give off the vibe of being rather wise. My opinion on him saying Arya is the only one he wants; people say to every boyfriend or girlfriend they ever have, even when it's the ones that don't count (When you're in second grade and proclaiming undying love...yeah...sure...) they always always say that the particular person is the only one they'll ever love. It changes. Eragon can change too, once he gets over his initial disappointment. Also, something I noticed, you remember that thing where Angela made the prophecy? The one where she was talking about the epic romance? She said it might have a happy ending, and that it might end badly. There's a might involved; which means that it could still technically go either way. Also, CDG; in this particular instance Librarian hasn't done anything wrong, it's still just a conversation of two people exchanging their thoughts. Not an argument. It's not incorrect unless it gets to the point of throwing insults and such. But the reason for the topic isn't so much to debate as to say who you think Eragon will end up with and why, not to argue about it. Although there is nothing wrong with opinion swapping, as long as you're sure the other person doesn't mind going back and forth about it in a friendly manner. Once claws come out it's no longer considered acceptable.
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February 15th, 2011, 11:15 pm |
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The Librarian
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Curfewdawn wrote: Well, it's because I like red and I like blue as well, so I switch out. Been doing it for a few days now. Oh But I will stop reply with coloring your posts xD Curfewdawn wrote: I'm saying that the last opinion we read from her, that I know of, was the one where she said she and Eragon can't be together. Until she says otherwise, I stand by the last opinion she gave. That was in Eldest when he lusted for her. In Brisngr on the other hand.... "You should tend to that before we set forth." She gave him no time to respond but grasped his paralyzed fingers and said, "Waise heill." An involuntary groan escaped him as his fingers popped back into their sockes, and his abraded tendons and crushed cartilage regained the fullness of their proper shapes, and as the flaps of skin hanging from his knuckles again covered the raw flesh below. "Thank you," he said. It surprised him that she had taken the initiative when he was perfectly capable of healing his own wounds. Arya seemed embarrassed. Looking away, out over the plains, she said, "I am glad you were by my side today, Eragon." "And you by mine." She favored him with a quick, uncertain smile. They lingered on the hillock for another minute, neither of them eager to resume their journey. --------------------------- "Walking over to Saphira, Arya placed a hand on Eragon's left leg and looked up at him with her slanted green eyes. "Accept this from me, Shur'tugal," she said. And he felt a surge of energy flow into him. "Eka elrun ono," he murmured to her. Also in the ancient language, she said, "Be careful, Eragon. I would not want to see you broken by Murtagh. I..." It seemed as if she were going to say more, but she hesitated, then removed her hand from his leg and retreated to stand by Blödhgarm." --------------------------- "You should not abandon your guards so lightly," Arya murmured in Eragon's left ear. She wrapped her sword arm around his waist and held him tightly as Saphira wheeled above the courtyard." --------------------------- "Better?" he asked as the spell finished its work. "Better," Arya whispered, and favored him with a weak smile." --------------------------- "Arya staggered as if she had been hit. "Ah," she said. She gripped the back of the chair so hard, her knuckles turned white. Tears filled her slanted eyes, then spilled over onto her cheeks and coursed down her face. "Eragon." She reached out and grasped his shoulder, and almost by accident, he found himself holding her in his arms." --------------------------- “So few have ever killed a Shade and lived. That is because they fought alone, not together, like us. Not like us.”Eragon is a different person now after he changed. And he loves Arya for who she is and not what. He has grown up in his feelings."An ache formed in his chest as he listened to the gentle rise and fall of Arya's breathing. It tormented him to be so close and yet be unable to approach her." --------------------------- He cherished her trust more than anything besides his bond with Saphira and he would sooner march into battle than endanger it." --------------------------- "Satisfied with what he had wrought, he handed the lily to Arya. "It's not a white rose but..." He smiled and shrugged. "You should not have," she said. "But I am glad you did." She caressed the underside of the blossom and lifted it to smell. The lines on her face eased. For several minutes, she admired the lily." --------------------------- And that is something Saphira can confirm."Well, be that as it may, these are reasons you give me, Eragon, and the heart rarely listens to reason. Do you fancy her or not?" If he fancied her any more, Saphira said to both Eragon and Roran, I'd be trying to kiss Arya myself. --------------------------- "She spoke to Arya with the same tone of affection that, until then, she had reserved for Eragon, as if she now considered Arua part of their small family and worthy of the same regard and intimacy as they shared."And CP as well.CP: And one of the nice things about their (Roran and Katrina's) relationship is when the series begins and when we first start seeing scenes from Roran's point of view in Eldest, he's already courted Katrina, he's already won Katrina and we don't need to see them going through that. They already have a relationship. Of course when he rescues her then in this book (Brisingr), it's just sort of a confirmation of what they both already knew. So I get to show a kind of different relationship with them then exists between say, Eragon and Arya, who are just sort of dancing around each other.And dude! I'm truly sorry for all the quotes, but I can't hold my self.... Curfewdawn wrote: I think I worded my thing about Eragons' age incorrectly; I meant, regardless of his immortality, he's still only twenty years old. Any elf who is 20 years would still be counted as a young adult. Just as Arya. The difference is that Eragon is years ahead any 20 year old elf as well as any 40+ human. Curfewdawn wrote: Being immortal doesn't magically make him the same age as Arya. And I have never said that. No? But he is at her same age mentally and physicality. Look at it this way. Vanir was according to CP around 200 years old. Even he is counted as young. He even acted there after in Eldest. Curfewdawn wrote: She may be the same age as him by her own time, but in his time, she's still entirely too old for him. They are both more or less elves. Both are immortals. Both has gone through things and given them experience far above their age. They relate to each others. They even have a bound that Eragon compared with his and Saphiras. Arya and Eragon understands each others. Curfewdawn wrote: Although now elf time applies to him as well, I don't think he's old enough for her. He has to see a lot of things to make up the difference in experiance. Really..... So it's not like he has gone through and seen more things than any other person this far in the books? I think so. And you will agree if you think of every thing that he has done, seen and learnt from this 3 books. Curfewdawn wrote: Ah, I like that about Angela being a joke! She is sort of a comic relief figure, even if she does give off the vibe of being rather wise. I agree Angela is awesome Curfewdawn wrote: My opinion on him saying Arya is the only one he wants; people say to every boyfriend or girlfriend they ever have, even when it's the ones that don't count (When you're in second grade and proclaiming undying love...yeah...sure...) they always always say that the particular person is the only one they'll ever love. It changes. Eragon can change too, once he gets over his initial disappointment. Don't compare it with some american teen boy. Look at my quotes instead. There is so much between them, that melts them together. They need each others. Curfewdawn wrote: Also, something I noticed, you remember that thing where Angela made the prophecy? The one where she was talking about the epic romance? She said it might have a happy ending, and that it might end badly. There's a might involved; which means that it could still technically go either way. Trust me. I know the prophecy. But I go for the logic reason. Curfewdawn wrote: Also, CDG; in this particular instance Librarian hasn't done anything wrong, it's still just a conversation of two people exchanging their thoughts. Not an argument. It's not incorrect unless it gets to the point of throwing insults and such. I agree This is fun. You are giving me a challenge in my knowledge and way of reasoning Curfewdawn wrote: But the reason for the topic isn't so much to debate as to say who you think Eragon will end up with and why, But that is what I have been doing o.O Saying that AxE will happen and why it will. Curfewdawn wrote: not to argue about it. Really? How can we then provide fact about why we think like we do? Curfewdawn wrote: Although there is nothing wrong with opinion swapping, as long as you're sure the other person doesn't mind going back and forth about it in a friendly manner. Once claws come out it's no longer considered acceptable. [/quote] I shall be friendly
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Saphirarox
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Librarian, I know you really like to quote bit-by-bit to highlight what you're talking about, but could you stop it? If you're trying to point something out, why don't you use different color texts?
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February 16th, 2011, 12:12 am |
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The Librarian
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Because in this way I address the answer to the right spot. Only going by colors can be confusing. You can't always know for sure to wish part the other are replying to =/
You are a mod, so I will try to act after your wish. But may I ask why? Whats wrong with quoting? o.O
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February 16th, 2011, 12:17 am |
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Curfewdawn
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
I'm not trying to be disagreeable, but I'm not sure how those quotes show anything more than a very close friendship. Quote: Any elf who is 20 years would still be counted as a young adult. Just as Arya. The difference is that Eragon is years ahead any 20 year old elf as well as any 40+ human. Ah, bingo, that is exactly what I wasn't quite understanding! I thought that elves, since they have such long lifespans, looked on things less than fifty as mere children, not that it was the same as regular human life in some respect. But does that mean that they remain as only young adults for a hundred years or more? By saying that it doesn't make him magically the same age as Arya, I wasn't saying that you'd said that at any point. I was just stating another part of my reasoning, that his gaining immortality does nothing, in my eyes, other than grant him strength and a longer future. Not raise him to the same level as Arya. Quote: They are both more or less humans. Both are immortals. Both has gone through things and given them experience far above their age. They relate to each others. They even have a bound that Eragon compared with his and Saphiras. Arya and Eragon understands each others. Another area I'm not buying the shipping; if they both have experience above their age; Eragon is twenty, if he has experience above his age that would seem to put him level with Arya. Except that she's already in the hundreds; if she too has experience above that, then she's still above him, yes?Well, yes, he has done a lot in the space of three books, to the point that I feel utter sympathy toward him for doing so much in such a short time. But Arya was around before he was born. She's seen more than he has, in any case. Even given the way she was raised. They may need each other, but Eragon did compare his and Aryas' bond to that of himself and Saphira. If what he said is true, than that would make them extremely close friends. Even though Saphira said that he does love Arya. Quote: Trust me. I know the prophecy. But I go for the logic reason. I won't say anything else on that than I'm also sort of hoping for the latter option; unless I'm totally into a pair as a one true pairing, I generally tend to almost pray it doesn't work out between the two characters. Although I'm trying, also, to actually back up my disbelief, as you can see. Quote: I agree This is fun. You are giving me a challenge in my knowledge and way of reasoning Yes, rather fun. As long as a discussion can carry on without either party involved ending up angry at the other, it's an enjoyable one ^?^Quote: But that is what I have been doing I know, I was just clarifying that that's what the thread is for, although I seem to have gotten the thread mixed up with another; I meant to say it's for discussing the concept of Eragon and Arya, and here's what I meant by not arguing about it:Arguing is different from discussing because arguing isn't just the exchanging of opinions, arguing is when it's heated, with irritation and/or anger being displayed. The way to provide facts about why we think the way we do, is to do what you and I have been doing: talking calmly, without getting worked up, and generally avoiding exclimations/allcaps/getting agro with each other. Quote: I shall be friendly As you have been doing so far; I'm liking this discussion ^?^
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February 16th, 2011, 12:23 am |
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Saphirarox
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
The Librarian wrote: Because in this way I address the answer to the right spot. Only going by colors can be confusing. You can't always know for sure to wish part the other are replying to =/
You are a mod, so I will try to act after your wish. But may I ask why? Whats wrong with quoting? o.O I know, you told me this before.Why don't you try it like this?There's absolutely nothing wrong with quoting But it does make it hard to focus on what you're trying to say when the reader has wade through that mess of quote boxes.
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February 16th, 2011, 12:29 am |
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The Librarian
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Curfewdawn wrote: I'm not trying to be disagreeable, but I'm not sure how those quotes show anything more than a very close friendship. But that is also the point. They are not together yet. But those quotes showed that Eragon has matured in his feelings for Arya. Arya rejected him for being immature and for that he lusted for her. That is changing and Arya gets closer to him every day. Curfewdawn wrote: Ah, bingo, that is exactly what I wasn't quite understanding! I thought that elves, since they have such long lifespans, looked on things less than fifty as mere children, not that it was the same as regular human life in some respect. But does that mean that they remain as only young adults for a hundred years or more? I'm glad that I could clear that out I'm not sure about the age, but Vanir is around 200 years and counts as quite young. Curfewdawn wrote: By saying that it doesn't make him magically the same age as Arya, I wasn't saying that you'd said that at any point. Sorry then =/ I misunderstood it then. Curfewdawn wrote: I was just stating another part of my reasoning, that his gaining immortality does nothing, in my eyes, other than grant him strength and a longer future. His bound with Saphira made him immortal, but it was the change during the blood oath ceremony that made him look, smart, fast and strong as an elf. He is every thing Arya is. Curfewdawn wrote: Not raise him to the same level as Arya. But what is Aryas level then? Eragon is just as fast, strong and in many ways stronger than her. He as a rider puts him higher than a princess. Curfewdawn wrote: Another area I'm not buying the shipping; if they both have experience above their age; Eragon is twenty, if he has experience above his age that would seem to put him level with Arya. Except that she's already in the hundreds; if she too has experience above that, then she's still above him, yes? In experience Arya is of course much higher than Eragon. But Eragon is not a child there. He is far over his age. And the experience does little to the age matter. See it this way. A 14 year old boy in Africa can have 10 times more life experience than a 40 year old American. But the american is still the older one. Curfewdawn wrote: Well, yes, he has done a lot in the space of three books, to the point that I feel utter sympathy toward him for doing so much in such a short time. But Arya was around before he was born. She's seen more than he has, in any case. Even given the way she was raised. Arya hasn't been through so much. She was trained by Oromis for around 20 years and spent (I think 70 years) as the egg currier. She traveled and learned. What puts Arya out is her capture and torture by Durza. But that is also something Eragon alone is starting to heal. Curfewdawn wrote: They may need each other, but Eragon did compare his and Aryas' bond to that of himself and Saphira. If what he said is true, than that would make them extremely close friends. And that is what they are. They are close friends and companions. they relate to each others. But his feelings to her is love. And to her alone. This was said after all this with their bound. Brisingr page 203 [English Version]"I suppose, but, ah, how can I help it? She is the only woman I wish to be with."Curfewdawn wrote: Even though Saphira said that he does love Arya. She says so because it's true. She feels Eragons feelings remember. Curfewdawn wrote: I won't say anything else on that than I'm also sort of hoping for the latter option; unless I'm totally into a pair as a one true pairing, I generally tend to almost pray it doesn't work out between the two characters. Although I'm trying, also, to actually back up my disbelief, as you can see. Every one should have their own opinion. I just like to reason about them. Curfewdawn wrote: Yes, rather fun. As long as a discussion can carry on without either party involved ending up angry at the other, it's an enjoyable one ^?^ You have my word that I won't change in that matter I enjoy this way to much =P It has honestly been a while since I had a good talk like this ^^ Curfewdawn wrote: I know, I was just clarifying that that's what the thread is for, Ohh. My bad than =P Curfewdawn wrote: although I seem to have gotten the thread mixed up with another; I meant to say it's for discussing the concept of Eragon and Arya, and here's what I meant by not arguing about it: That has happen many times with me as well. that I mixed up a topic or two =P Curfewdawn wrote: Arguing is different from discussing because arguing isn't just the exchanging of opinions, arguing is when it's heated, with irritation and/or anger being displayed. Yea. I just realized that Arguing is something a wife and husband does when they can't agree =P Bad choice of word from my side. Curfewdawn wrote: The way to provide facts about why we think the way we do, is to do what you and I have been doing: talking calmly, without getting worked up, and generally avoiding exclimations/allcaps/getting agro with each other. Curfewdawn wrote: As you have been doing so far; I'm liking this discussion ^?^ [/quote] As am I ^^ But I will have to continue another time now. I most go up for school in 5 hours..... <__< I shouldn't be up this late =/
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February 16th, 2011, 12:58 am |
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Curfewdawn
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
But that is also the point. They are not together yet. But those quotes showed that Eragon has matured in his feelings for Arya. Arya rejected him for being immature and for that he lusted for her. That is changing and Arya gets closer to him every day.
So you're not saying they are in love (Except Eragon, he's obviously still enamoured) but that they're going closer, and that means that there's room for them to? Now that, I can see. I kept thinking you were saying that Arya has changed her opinion on whether they can be together entirely, not that things are in the process of changing.
Aryas' level is that she's still older than him, as far as time goes. Even if she's only one hundred, that's at least seventy-five years older. Would one elf be "With" another elf if there's that sort of difference?
In experience Arya is of course much higher than Eragon. But Eragon is not a child there. He is far over his age. And the experience does little to the age matter. See it this way. A 14 year old boy in Africa can have 10 times more life experience than a 40 year old American. But the american is still the older one.
In terms of perspective, that still would't make it right for the 14 year old to date the 40 year old, would it?
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February 17th, 2011, 3:03 am |
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The Librarian
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
Right now, Eragon truly loves Arya. And he loves her alot. As he said, he knows that there are other women, but he made it clear that Arya was his only. As for Arya, she loves Eragon but not in the same way. There are many different kinds of love. She loves him for more than just a friend, but not yet as a lover. And Arya is by all right confused about her feelings. A few months back she rejected a human who lusted for her. Then right out of the blue that changed. He is no more elf than human and lover her for who she is and not what. Arya needs Eragon just as much as he needs her. Eragon always has Saphira. But she is more or less a part of him. Arya is the only person Eragon has who understands her. It is the same for Arya. She has no one besides Eragon and Saphira. There is so much going on between them. And all that time when they have been growing closer, Arya realizes more and more how much he means to her. Arya is unsure of her feelings. She knows that she loves him, but not yet in what way. She knows that there is something more than just friendship and companionship
I'm going to quote again, but underline what I mean."You should tend to that before we set forth." She gave him no time to respond but grasped his paralyzed fingers and said, "Waise heill." An involuntary groan escaped him as his fingers popped back into their sockes, and his abraded tendons and crushed cartilage regained the fullness of their proper shapes, and as the flaps of skin hanging from his knuckles again covered the raw flesh below. "Thank you," he said. It surprised him that she had taken the initiative when he was perfectly capable of healing his own wounds. Arya seemed embarrassed. Looking away, out over the plains, she said, "I am glad you were by my side today, Eragon." "And you by mine." She favored him with a quick, uncertain smile. They lingered on the hillock for another minute, neither of them eager to resume their journey."--------------------------- "Arya staggered as if she had been hit. "Ah," she said. She gripped the back of the chair so hard, her knuckles turned white. Tears filled her slanted eyes, then spilled over onto her cheeks and coursed down her face. "Eragon." She reached out and grasped his shoulder, and almost by accident, he found himself holding her in his arms." --------------------------- "Walking over to Saphira, Arya placed a hand on Eragon's left leg and looked up at him with her slanted green eyes. "Accept this from me, Shur'tugal," she said. And he felt a surge of energy flow into him. "Eka elrun ono," he murmured to her. Also in the ancient language, she said, "Be careful, Eragon. I would not want to see you broken by Murtagh. I..." It seemed as if she were going to say more, but she hesitated, then removed her hand from his leg and retreated to stand by Blödhgarm." --------------------------- "Satisfied with what he had wrought, he handed the lily to Arya. "It's not a white rose but..." He smiled and shrugged. "You should not have," she said. "But I am glad you did." She caressed the underside of the blossom and lifted it to smell. The lines on her face eased. For several minutes, she admired the lily." Aryas feelings for him are there. She just has to realize and act upon them. Because in the end they always needs each other.Yes. And Arya will always be older than him. But a number means very little to an immortal race. The age difference will always be there, and will never change. But still in a way it will change. The older they grows the less those 75 years will be. 75 years out of 100 years are much. But 75 years out of 2000 years is nothing. The age difference between elves means very little. Take Linea for an example. She was en elven maiden. The one she fell for was several hundred years younger than her. The elves are a different race. They live after other rules and have their own culture and life style. This 75 years are alot in human standards but nothing more what would be months in compare to the elves. After even more years they would turn into weeks. And I fully agree with you. But only in human standards. Both a 14 and a 40 year old would be counted as very young an more or less at the same age in elven standards. No matter hwo wrong the age different seems in your eyes it is only for humans. Both Arya and Eragon will live on for several thousands years. Even if Arya would have been 1000 years older than Eragon that would be overcome by time.
If Arya was 1000 years older than Eragon and she was 11.000 years old, she would still have spent 90% of her life with Eragon. The age are different in elven standards. We should not compare them with mortal humans since they are neither of it
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February 17th, 2011, 12:54 pm |
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The Imposter
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Re: ARYA'S LOVER!!!!(y she and eragon will never b)
I think Arya did like Faolin, but now that he's dead I think she is starting to like Eragon.
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