i dont think itll be either of them

theyre to obvious

Neither do I. I can't believe that some people want him to die.

Who do you think could be Rider #4, but is unexpected? I think CP will choose someone nobody expects. My bet? Elva. She has very strange growth, so could be adult size by the time the egg hatches. Plus, I can't even comprehend how Galby could get into her mind, let alone not go mad in there, or guess her true name even if the egg hatches in Uru'baen.

I think it will be one of the strangers. We don't know much about them and it doesn't seem like CP would just put them in there for no reason. Elva seems too diabolical to be a rider. Her body doesn't develop unnaturally its her mind that does it. I think it would be too risky because Elva isn't on good terms with Eragon and if she became a rider she could turn on him.

ok it has to be arya for a ton of main reasons that i have read the book a ton of times to find and here is all the proof i found backing the fact that she is gonna be the next dragon rider
1.the dream eragon had in book 1 chapter deathwatch and read the first paragraph that says eragon sees a man and a woman with their arms interlocked boarding a boat and just before the vision ends he sees two dragons in the sky. or something like that i didnt memorize it
2.christopher paoplini said in an interview that the rider would be from the first two books
3.arya already knows alot about magic and melee fighting and has a basic knowledge of dragons (wich is why i dont think it is gonna be roran because christopher paolini is finishing this series in one last book and it would have to be like a katrilion pages long of roran being trained)
4.somewhere in the book it said something about if a dragon has a strong enough emotion towards another dragon it would affect its rider so it cant be roran because that would be really weird and plus he is already married and it would follow the trend in most fantasy book series like this one if arya became the next rider cause face it this generation thinks the whole world should be perfect even though its not and her becoming the next rider would be the "perfect" ending to the whole him being in love with her ordeal.
5.another important reason for now is the fact that aryas magic is green and the last dragon is green and my other friend that nerds up on this book series said he found something about how a riders magic must match the color of their dragon even though there are probably a ton of other green magic people in alagasia like i said earlier christopher said in an interview that the last rider will be someone from the first two books and arya one of the main characters in the book series.

that is all i could find out or just remember for now if you see any flaws in my post please tell me so i can read over that section again so i didnt misunderstand anything

Who will be the next DR ?

I am sure that it will be a woman.

Most probably it will be Elva in my opinion. Because of her growth and her powers. It depends on how fast the action is going in the book, she might be 16, the same age Eragon is, by the time the egg hatches. The dragon will grow very fast and the girl/rider/Elva with him, it will be amasing partnership.

Lol, that would be funny. First he fall in love in Arya, who is older than him with a couple of decades, but is not old for an elf and she is not wise for them.And after that she fall in love in Elva, a girl who grow to a teenager in two years and has the mind of an adult

btw, i'm not English either ; ) !

It's about time. Poor Eragon can't wait her for ever, can he ?! In the whole Alagesia there isn't a girl on his age.

The only sure thing for the next rider is that the rider will be a female. Althought there is a lot of women who could be. For example the teenage girl (one of the strangers)

I redid the poll. =] Vote again if you wish!

its Angela. my undeniable proof is posted on Gaia online. look up Solember Petition i think.

Can't find it......

anyways here is the proof summed up for everyone for all arguments argued....

This is only some of it.... Ill keep working on it today...

Someone else in the empire

Arguments For
-someone we least expect...like bladesinger

-someone we've never heard of

Arguments Against

-The last book is going to have to move really fast, and there wont be time to get to know a new character.

Arya

Arguments For
-CP is trying to get Eragon and Arya on the same footing (the Shade, the Eragon-elfness) it would only make sense that he made them both dragon riders too.

-the last egg is green and Arya's magic is green so it might to be Arya

-Arya wouldn't have to train

Arguments Against

-Any one elses magic could be green...some characters can't use magic but if one does become a rider and therefore is able to, the magic could be green

-CP could be tricking people to he does a lot twists. so he obvously wants people to think that it could be Arya green magic.

-Arya's dragon would still have to train, even if Arya didn't, As Saphira had to train too.

- She just needs to go back to her home to rule.

-She doesn't need any more power or help

-Arya is just to obvious.

A Dwarf (Orik)

Arguments For
-talk in all the books about having no dwarf rider in history, why would CP mention that so much if he was going to just leave it hanging.

Arguments Against


The Egg is Destroyed

Arguments For
- it could play no important role in book 4, eragon doesn't need any help, and besides it would take too long for anyone to train to be a dragon rider

Arguments Against

- The book would then be lame.

Roran

Arguments For

-It runs in the family. as in Eragon, Morzan, Murtagh

Arguments Against

- Roran wants to farm and return to Carvahall with his family.

-Roran and Eragon CANNOT mate (Why would they need to mate?)

-Roran doesn't want to be a rider (maybe he does now after Brisingr OR maybe once Roran is a Rider, he will change his mind)

-Roran isn't liable to be the next rider, since he has a kingship (if he is king) to start, and a family to care for and he doesn't want to fight (notice that Riders tend to NOT have families) (But don't forget about the hiding of sloan....) (Morzan and Brom had a family)

Bladesinger

Arguments For

- An interesting twist on the book

- Might be a good fit for Eragon

-Might have been the 3rd person that Angela told the fortune of.
Arguments Against

- Under developed

(My personal note... Ended on page 27...)

yeah i just havent quite gotten to any angela thoeries yet... ty by the way... i made em myself.... just it would have been better if the maatched... ill do that later...

Hi im new. anyways. i vote it as other. i think the dragon will hatch. but without a rider. BAMMM noone expected that twist, eh?
but i dont think when i voted as other it really counted.. i thinkt hey need a new place for mine.

I just dont see Arya being the next rider! I mean, she is way past the age of when the dragon hathcling usually chooses its rider. I mean, Murtagh was pretty late, but arya is over 100, and I know you dont usually compare elves and humans, the point is, she is too old I think to become a rider. AND she is going to be queen, I mean, lets say that Islanzadi diead, how could arya shoulder the responsibilities of being a rider AND queen of the elves???? And another point, eragon will be the one to train her in the ways of the riders, and that would be awkward.
I believe that someone else, a new person entirely, some young human boy or girl, will be the next rider.

my guess is the girl with the arms of a swordsman who eragon blessed in book 3.

arya will definatly gna be the next rider, its just the right plot twist and itll definatly draw eragon and her together

yeah but its always that way, surprise us, for once why cant they give us what we want?!?!

What CP has said.

1. CP has said that the rider will be "logic inevitability"
2. CP also mentioned that he hopes it will be a surprise.
At the time, the book we know now as Brisingr was supposed to be the final book of the series. Paolini decided to separate that book in two. Before Brisingr came most people didn’t though that it would be Arya. It was Roran. But after Brisingr was released, people have considered Arya much more likely, not just because of the events that took place in the book itself but Paolini's explanations of some of those certain scenes since then.3. The rider has to have been in all three books so far.

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In the matter of logic inevitability.

Roran:
1. Roran has his family to live for. That would ruin his life with his family, causing him to outlive his wife (his entire world) and his child. Then his possible grandchildren, etc. Depressing much?
2. Then he could not be King, which is the leading theory under Roran - no immortal Rulers.
3. So far, his characterization has been developing his physical strength and leadership skills. No diplomatic skills or magical skills. If you were to use the stone argument, it could easily be countered with this - his failure at learning/using magic could be there to show his path will not be a magical one.
4. Is human - very strong, but only for a human. Could not compete with Galby or Murt.
5. On the "Rider blood" argument - blood is no real argument. CP has said that dragon does not choose because of families. He don’t even share that what you then should call rider blood. Brom/Eragon Morzan/Murtagh. Roran has no conection there.
6. We have no time to train him. How many books did it take Eragon to reach his current strength? We would need to teach Roran the customs of Riders, how to preform magic and control energy as well as the AL itself, etc. Not time.
7. Wields a hammer, not a sword. It’s a diffrent fighting skill.
8. Due to the above, he is not really "logically inevitable," no?

Orik:
1. He is a King. No immortal rulers, no? At least, not of a mortal race. Dwarves = mortal.
2. Yeah, he is also a Dwarf. Dwarves are not in the Pact, and there is not currently enough power to recast it. And honestly, why would it be recast now? In a time of war? Silly.
3. It would cause him to out live his wife/possible children as well.
4. Yes, we all know that he rode Saphira. But he didn't really seem too comfortable with 90% of the time. Yeah.
5. Size rations, anyone? He coulden’t even reach a Urgal from the back of a dragon.
6. Would require magical training.
7. Not "logically inevitable."

Angela:
1. Based on CP's sister as a kind of joke - she was obviously not meant to have an extreme role in the books. Like, I dunno, the Rider who will help save the dragon race and defeat the evil Empire.
2. Can use magic, but is very weak when it come to magic use. So she would still require magical training, which would make her weaker than all other Riders in the IC.
3. Is human - normal strength.
4. Does not fight with a sword. Minor, but still.
5. Is not "logically inevitable."

Nasuada:
1. She currently is leader of the Varden. That is a big enough responsibility in itself, yes?
2. She would require training in magic and as well in how to use a sword.
3. Is human - normal strength.
4. On magic, she loathes the stuff. That would cause a kind of conflict of interests, no?
5. Not "logically inevitable."

Elva:
1. Currently (physically) about 7 years old.
Not to mention that she is literally only about 1 year old.
2. No sympathies - why would she fight for the Varden at all? It would take some doing just to convince her to be on the "good side" (bleh) in the first place.
3. She would require training as well, both magically and with a blade.
4. Again, human. She could not compete physically just by her race, not to mention her age.
5. Unpredictable, to put it mildly.
6. Not "logically inevitable."

But let’s take a look at Arya.
1. The dream in Deathwatch. Two people, a man and woman, boarding a ship while two dragon circle above. Now, most think this is Eragon departing the land with the other Rider, their two dragons flying above. This, if true, indicates the Rider is female.
2. Eragon is in love with Arya, Greenie and Saphie will likely be mates. Fits together.
3. She requires almost no training, as we don't have time to train a new Rider.
4. She is elven and female. The other Riders are human and male. It evens it out a little bit.
5. As an elf, is of superior mental and physical strength - and with one book to go, this is definite advantage.
6. Green. She has green eyes, green magic, etc. CP has said that there was clues in the books about who the next rider will be.
7. CP is trying to put her and eragon on even footing. They have the same strength magically and physically, or close to it, both are Shadeslayers. So making her a dragon rider would be the last part.
8. She has been in all three books.
9. She IS "logically inevitable.

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This is nothing but pure fact. Ignore it if you want to be idiotes, but Arya will be the next rider. It does not mather what you think or hope. Tha fact stands.
And don't give me the bull $hit that she is to obvoius. The just points out tha she is the only one who fits.
Roran's and Katrina's child has not been in any of the books and is not a logic choice. It's a no without doubt.
//Robin

You mean have a new family every now and then?
Have you any idea how much Katrina means to Roran?
He would never want to outlive her and he has alredy peromised her that he would lay down his hammer and return to Carvahall.


From the two bigest IC forums there is. Roran being Kins is the leading theroy from the fans. No joking.


I'm not sure if i agree. Making Roran king would also go against his promis to Katrina.


I agree. Roran won't be a magican. Or the next rider.


Are you serious? As a rider he has to fight for Alagesia. He can't sit 20 feet away upon his dragon and screaming proposals to eragon.
Eragon can't take Galby/murtagh alone. The next rider has to help fight with him.


Ehh... Have you read Brisngr? Galby/murtagh has a much much biger advantages than Eragon. The have multiple Eldunarí. If you remeber Eragon almost lost to Murtagh even if he had the help of 14 elves.


Morzan = yes
Selena = no
Garrow = no
Roran = no


1. Murtagh was trained in Urû'baen before he escaped. He alredy could use the sword. As we saw in Eragon.
2. Murtagh is not a fully traind rider. He can close to nothing in the AL.
galby has only thought him some spells. Using a sword and mutering a few spells is nothing. His powes is only the Eldunarí


CP. The riders are using swords. And always have. A hammer is to short from the back of a dragon.

Yep, But he won't be able to stop fighting. The people want him to be king. Did he stop after saving carvahall? Nope. Did he stop after saving Katrina? Nope. What makes you think he will stop?





So far all of Roran's promisises havent worked out......




Not what I was trying to convey. I was trying to proove that CP had no reason to waste so many pages on Roran's stone thing to stop a theorie of him becominga magic user that didn't exist. Thefore he must be using it to tell us he will use magic.




Well I meant that he isn't going to defeat galby... Eragon is. He can help but he won't be the main person to kill galby. He could just be fighting against other magicians/ soldiers.




Course I have:P. But Roran Probably has greater Physical strength than galby and murt as the both are only humans. You are mixing it up with magical strength, which Roran can use Eldunari.




So? Other DR custums were broken and Roran Could use a hammer.


He knows more that Eragon


Perhaps. But a longer hammer could be made.

It's nice to have a real discussion again. Thanks btw!

Of course he will be able stop. He don't wan't to stop.
He fights for katrina and no one else. He lead the village only to save her.
And now he fight for her. As the cousin of Eragon he will be a target. That is why he fights in this war. So he and Katrina can live happely ever after.
What Roran wants is He and Katarin to live happy as a family. He would never sacrifice or indanger that.


Really? Like what?


Many pages? I remember one where Roran had an epic fail.
And how much do you want from Roran? CP has alredy mad him superman.

CP has spent all the books on making Roran strong for a human and his life for Katarina. His character is buildt for being a human.


But then again he would require a lot of traning. And that is waht we don't have time for.


He would never stand a chance against galby in pure strength. Human rider slowly gains the strenght and ability of the elves. Galby has been alive for over 100 years. He is an overpower human withou his Eldunarí.
And even if roran would be stronger than Murtagh he stil woulden't have a chance even if Murtagh didn't had his Eldunarí. Murtagh is good with the sword and was able to keep up with Eragon who has elven speed.
Don't get me wrong here. Roran is very strong for a human, but that's it.
He would never stand a chance against galby/murtagh.



A hammer is to short.


No, he dosn't. Murtagh only knows what Galby has told him. And Galby never finished his traning as a rider. Murtagh might know some thing that Eragon dosen't, but Eragon has been fully trained as a dragon rider.


A longer hammer would be to hard to use.


No problem ^^