First off, I want you to know that I understand and do think we need minimum lines for applications. I know people who need to use them to flesh their character out enough.

Oh sure, I got Vlad and Argon there, but I ended up restating things.

Also, another problem is it becomes a checklist. While that is part of the process, it should focus on how well the information was conveyed and how well set up the character is, not how many lines. As authors, we are taught to cut out all the useless things that get in the way, including excessive description. You also learn to word things in ways that cut out excessive description.

Now, I know, not everyone is an author and English major like me, but there has to be a way for those who are better at writing and conveying things circumvent the minimum lines, assuming the character is solid.

Not every Character is complex, not every history is exciting like this one:
Not much to say, she was trained as a wizard by her master. After that, she was chosen by a dragon to be it’s rider. She left soon after with the small dragon on her shoulder.

Yeah. That is her life, she is making her history (as soon as she leaves the application stage) now.

It also comes down to word selection, and trust me, I can make a fleshed out character still stuck under the minimum lines.
Character Personality: She is hardheaded and it shows in her magic. Her stance shows her personality. She does not back down. She likes fire, as she is a fire wizard. Fire is also life, and she is very lively.

Character History: Not much to say, she was trained as a wizard by her master. After that, she was chosen by a dragon to be it’s rider. She left soon after with the small dragon on her shoulder.

Yes, I see things in her personality that can be fleshed out, and I will work on that. Writers flesh their characters out, often subtly throughout the book.

I still want a way to be able to circumvent the line minimum for those who have a solid character.

There is a point to what you're saying, but when you write a charry's bio, you need to give a good description. When i read a charry bio, i want to finish it feeling like i know the person inside the charry, and six lines of personality and history just doesn't cut it. Not to be harsh here, but that possible history/personality reminds me of a book i once read-Pretty good, some potential, but really sketchy on some of the details. This is like that, except without the "Pretty good" and the "Sketchy" part is a lot more so. As aeraldi said, i could expand that history to a a good solid paragraph or two, easy.



Where did this girl and her master come from? Did they just appear out of nowhere, already grown up? Not much to say, she was trained as a wizard by her master. Did she grow up in the empire? If so, i really doubt that they were just training out in the open. After that, she was chosen by a dragon to be it’s rider. Where did this dragon come from? Or did it just appear out of nowhere, like the girl and her master? She left soon after with the small dragon on her shoulder. Okay... So you gave her entire life in three sentences, and then the last sentence happened apparently no more than a week after the third. Interesting.

All in all, it's very sketchy. A girl appears out of nowhere and trains to be a wizard under her master, who apparently also appeared out of nowhere, then a dragon egg appears out of nowhere, hatches for her, and they leave. And apparently galbatorix doesn't exist. THAT'S HER WHOLE LIFE?!?!? A bio should get into the charry's mind, explain who the person is. If we were all third graders, something like that might be acceptable. But we aren't. Most of us (Those of us who aren't breaking the rules) Are at least thirteen. When you're thirteen, you should be capable of writing a good solid couple pages on a charry you're interested in rping with. If you're not interested, then what are you doing here?

Hence why i am better at writing books than character descriptions. I need them to fully flesh my characters out. Can't compile normalities in culture into history very well I guess. Mostly cause they do not fit in there in my head.

Still, History is not where it gets me as much. I usually have problems with personality.

When I make a profile, one thing I find helpful in filling up the history space is to talk in detail about the past adventures of the character. This may help you. After all, I'm sure your character hasn't just sat around their whole life doing nothing.

As for personality, give some traits of your character and then explain why your character acts a certain way. I usually spend a long time just planing the character out in my head before typing it up on my computer.

Eh, wont work. I need to know character first, but thanks. And history is not what is getting me (it still does, but i just need to rethink things). Personality is what is killing me. 12 lines is excessive.

Character Personality: He is the emblem of Courage. It does not matter that he does not know anything about his race or his ancestry, he still is proud of who he is. He is as solid and unmoving as rock. He also is calm and passive. Not much works him up. When having to scare attackers away, he appeared angry; however he was just keeping up appearances.

She is hardheaded and it shows in her magic. Her stance shows her personality. She does not back down. She likes fire, as she is a fire wizard. Fire is also life, and she is very lively.

Two Solid Character Personalities, both way under the 12 lines minimum. Okay, the second one is not exactly, solid, but it expresses her personality. (I struggle explicitly stating Her personality. Yes, she basically a direct copy from my book. Again, you need to see her in actions to best describe her.)

Okay Thanks. I have yet to take a creative writing class in college yet (and really can not wait).

I have a PM into Shade of Fear, but I'll put one into Draco.

I would ask for help, but I've stated things the best way I can. lol. Man, I really need to work on that. It is just that, I don't make overcomplicated characters. Most of mines personalities are straightforward.

Great!!! cause I need to get better at that area. I put a question abotu helping to develop writing personalities into Hortorian, a cool writing forum. I got a few good ideas from the only post made so far.

All the writing techniques can really stink. All my classes have taught me how to do things and then told me, once you know how to do things properly and become good at writing, break the "rules." I use fragments all the time in my style.

I still think 12 lines is excessive. Basic info needs to be given on personality, but it is all going to be shown in the RPG. Basic info yes, but 12 lines. You play an RPG to have fun, unperdictable things happen and the best way to do personality is in the RPG, not in a character description. Yes, a little is needed for a bases, but their character is not going to just know each character's personalities, it is learned.