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Post What happens when Eragon opens the Vault Of Souls???
every1 is wondering where the VOS is but no1 has actually sed what they think is gonna happen when it is opened, i dnt jus mean to Eragon i mean to everything, what comes out, who comes out, what does eragon do nd how does it affect Alagaesia???????????

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Yeah, what happens if loads of evil souls come out?, or, they might take control of eragon. I still think that Saphira might die and he must retrieve her soul from the vault.

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we dont know if there will be actual soals comming out.

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were not saying we do. were just saying what might happen IF there were

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I think the souls give him power somehow. Like through Brom And the elf Eragon, maybe.

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I also think that the elf Eragon will play a part. Maybe their souls will merge or something like that. he might get this massive amount of knowlge(sp?) from him and that would be good for the whole of Alagaesia.

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ooo! :idea: what if broms soul came out and went back into his body????? that would be awesome!!!

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ooo! :idea: what if broms soul came out and went back into his body????? that would be awesome!!!

lol Wouldnt brom be king of trapped, remember the crystal tomb thing...* Brom knocks on the crystal " any one there, Hello?* lol

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lol, i dno i kinda think Eragon will get the chance to bring bk some1s soul, i dnt think saphira will die, bcos tht would sever there link which is reali important bcos Galby nd his dragon do not av it, so i dnt think it will b saphira i think it mite b brom bcos i think eragon is told by some1 tht brom was his dad or somethin like tht nd eragon wants answers and help or he could bring back the first Eragon........................ i dnt kno wot he's gonna do but i think it could be 1 of the disiding factors in the battle between eragon, galby nd murtagh, it defintly has somethin to do with it

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i ve been thinking and also came up with something,solembum says that eragon must find the VOS and to gain admitance he has to speak his name, this could indicate that there is a sort of door gaurd to the VOS, if this is true i think that it could be another dragon as only a dragon would be able to hide the VOS so effectivly esspecially if it was a grey dragon (rock Coloured) jus a reali weird suggestion, it popped into my head randomly

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hey if that would i wouldn't be mad. it'll actually be pretty exciting if we found another dragon, and a powerful one at that


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Hmmm... im for that idea. Maybe not just a dragon... but another elder rider like ormis?? i would be really excited to hear this :o . Maybe it has something to do with those 7 words as well :idea:

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i ve been thinking and also came up with something,solembum says that eragon must find the VOS and to gain admitance he has to speak his name, this could indicate that there is a sort of door gaurd to the VOS, if this is true i think that it could be another dragon as only a dragon would be able to hide the VOS so effectivly esspecially if it was a grey dragon (rock Coloured) jus a reali weird suggestion, it popped into my head randomly


Thats just like my theory that there might be two dragons in bk3 cause in the 1st there was Saphira and Shruikan, 2nd Glaedr and thorn so in 3rd there might be greenie and VOS gaurdian.

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sory i didnt kno that was like ur theory, it came to me wen i was thinkin about it, o well...... i like the idea of another elder tho.... that would be good, bcos in the fite wiv Galby Eragon will need all the help he can get n so far by the sounds of it there will b ERagonn n Saphira, Greeny n his rider(hopfully Arya) n Oromis n Galdrer but they wnt b able 2 do alot i doubt they will even live to half way through the book.... but if there was another dragon and rider then Galby n Murtagh would b out numbered 3:2 so it would give Eragon the advantage + the elder would av to b very powerful otherwise they wouldnt have put him to guard the VOS... it all fits, kinda

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kinda an odd theory, cp never said that the original eragon ever died, and technically could still be alive.. him and his dragon could be the gaurds of the vos?


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Very true... that would be a good twist as well 8)

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kinda an odd theory, cp never said that the original eragon ever died, and technically could still be alive.. him and his dragon could be the gaurds of the vos?


i had never really paid attention to that, hopefully he is alive


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fascinating theory. it may b possible. but i don't know. we only have to wait until Empire comes out. than we will find out for sure.

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Yeah, what happens if loads of evil souls come out?, or, they might take control of eragon. I still think that Saphira might die and he must retrieve her soul from the vault.


if saphira dies eragon will go mad and probably 4get all about it.

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sory i didnt kno that was like ur theory, it came to me wen i was thinkin about it, o well...... i like the idea of another elder tho.... that would be good, bcos in the fite wiv Galby Eragon will need all the help he can get n so far by the sounds of it there will b ERagonn n Saphira, Greeny n his rider(hopfully Arya) n Oromis n Galdrer but they wnt b able 2 do alot i doubt they will even live to half way through the book.... but if there was another dragon and rider then Galby n Murtagh would b out numbered 3:2 so it would give Eragon the advantage + the elder would av to b very powerful otherwise they wouldnt have put him to guard the VOS... it all fits, kinda


No no I didn't mean it like that I just wanted to tell you I had an idea like that :D Anyway I'm with u there. It does all fit together and is quite possible, even if it does sound odd.

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Yeah, what happens if loads of evil souls come out?, or, they might take control of eragon. I still think that Saphira might die and he must retrieve her soul from the vault.


if saphira dies eragon will go mad and probably 4get all about it.


lol, everything i say sounds kinda odd.... n i dnt think Saphira will die, CP cant afford to lose her.... bcos Saphira and Eragon are the main characters and if he loses either of them it will drive the other1 insane.... if ERagon goes to the VOS i think he ill go with Saphira...he wnt b goin there to get Saphira... plus if the VOS is at the top of ( i cnt remember the name) thn he wnt b able to get there.... surly The VOS has to b somewhere only reachable by dragon back.....

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yea very true i dout that any plain/ regular person will be able to access the VOS

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exactly otherwise ppl would kno where it is..... i think Saaphira will get injured or somthing but i dnt think she'll die..... otherwise Eragon has no chance of winning or even reaching the VOS

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exactly otherwise ppl would kno where it is..... i think Saaphira will get injured or somthing but i dnt think she'll die..... otherwise Eragon has no chance of winning or even reaching the VOS


I just had a thought while reading this.. Maybe during the fight with Galbatorix, Saphira does get injured, rather badly by a spell. Eragon will then have to journey to the VOS to find someone with great power who can heal her.

Adding a twist to that idea, it might have to be Galbatorix, Brom of even the first Eragon. Or an even bigger twist.. the dragon that the first Eragon found.


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that is a possiblity....but i think the VOS is gonna b somewhere only reachable by dragonback...otherwise ny old person could stumble upon it.....i hope Saphira wont get injured, it mite be Eragon that gets injured...bcos wiv out Saphira Eragon is jus a elf-man....special but not as special...if saphira gets injured n possibly killed he wnt b nothing

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do you think that the vos will be at the top of that one mountain saphira was trying to fly over in the book eragon. cuz remember that eragon was getting light headed and whatnot. it would fit perfectly if the vos was somewhere that could only be reached by the way of a dragon


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they wouldnt b able to get up here, there was not enough oxygen....i think it will b the mountain that is on the edge of Palancar Valley... i think it could b up there possibly....but either way i think it will b only reachable by dragon back....so Saphira DONT die!!!

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hmmm....if it was reachable only on dragonback, then galby might have found it. i think its hidden or else galby could get whatever is in there.

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yea obviously it hidden...Galby mite not even kno it exists...he didnt complete his training.....

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I think that when Eragon opens the VOS that the soals Vrael, Brom, The First Eragon, and Oromis (I think he dies by then) go to Eragon to strengthen him. While the souls of thier dragons go to Saphira to make her unstopible. I came to this conclution by the fact (even though we don't know why) Galby and Murtagh grew so strong is by absorbing the souls of the dead with the help of Dark Magic. From page 640 of Eldist "The consciousness of the Rider felt strange to Eragon, as if it contained multitudes; scores of distinct voices whispered in the caverns of his mind,like imprisoned spirits begging for release." This is the evidence.

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I think maybe Brom and The 1st Eragon show up and give him mass amounts of power and they teach him great things then he is ready to fight Galby.

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Yes but I don't think Brom could have tought him more than Oromis is teaching him.

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I think that when Eragon opens the VOS that the soals Vrael, Brom, The First Eragon, and Oromis (I think he dies by then) go to Eragon to strengthen him. While the souls of thier dragons go to Saphira to make her unstopible. I came to this conclution by the fact (even though we don't know why) Galby and Murtagh grew so strong is by absorbing the souls of the dead with the help of Dark Magic. From page 640 of Eldist "The consciousness of the Rider felt strange to Eragon, as if it contained multitudes; scores of distinct voices whispered in the caverns of his mind,like imprisoned spirits begging for release." This is the evidence.


thats a pretty good theory... well supported anyway
could'nt the saoul be his own though becuase he is kinda being forced to do this against his will?

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Rien.1234 that is a reali gd theory n has supposrting evidence, u could b rite...actually i think u will b i neva thought of that...its brilliant....wish id thought of it...it would explain alot ....

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I think that when Eragon opens the VOS that the soals Vrael, Brom, The First Eragon, and Oromis (I think he dies by then) go to Eragon to strengthen him. While the souls of thier dragons go to Saphira to make her unstopible. I came to this conclution by the fact (even though we don't know why) Galby and Murtagh grew so strong is by absorbing the souls of the dead with the help of Dark Magic. From page 640 of Eldist "The consciousness of the Rider felt strange to Eragon, as if it contained multitudes; scores of distinct voices whispered in the caverns of his mind,like imprisoned spirits begging for release." This is the evidence.


that is a good theory, but wont galby have absorbed all the souls so that it will be worthless to anyone else? but ur theory is good, and i agree with it.

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i dnt think he knos about the VOS, i think the VOs only holds good souls, souls that were good in life etc....Galby mite have absorbed all the souls of evil beings etc....

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That is my thought exsactly. Galby can't know were it is. He would be unstopable if he did or maybe he knows were it is but can't open it. Eragon has to speak his true name to open it so perhaps only a few people are able to open it.

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I believe Galby knows his true name, otherwise I don't think he would be so careless. Anyway, I also think he can speak his name to it, and that may be why he is so strong and also why Murtagh is too.

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i kinda agree with you there scarecrow(if I understood you correctly)


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But scarecrow explain me this, If Galby had accsess to the VOS why not march on the varden or elves himself. He would be powerful enough. No I think Eragon has to say his true name and no one but he can. Also look on Pg 650 in Eldist when Murtagh said that Galby knew their true names I think he was talking about himself and Thorn, not Eragon.

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thats true.... i never does exactly specify when he said galby knew their true names....good point rien

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Well we don't know how people find their true names besides asking an Elf. If we knew this detail it could explain alot.

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all ur ideas r reali reali good!!! i think galby knos his own name but doesnt kno whre the VOS is.... + the VOS would contain good souls i should think

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Ive herd three good ideas on that one is that it is in the Helgrind, the other is at Doru Araeba, and the last is at Marna but we don't know enough about the Marna. I think it is at Doru Araeba. What yall think

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I think Doru Araeba is a good place for it to be. But I dunno...it could be in a lot of different places. Maybe its in plain site somewhere. :?

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May 11th, 2007, 9:04 pm Profile
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I think Oromis will tell when Eragon gets back.

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Yes he will tell him when he is on his death bed, but in the plans I don't think so it must be at some sort of mountain.

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I wonder who's going to train the new rider then.

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Eragon who else but I think the new Rider will be some one who dosn't need much training like Arya who just needs to be told the Riders secrets. I think Eragon get a few more months of training in.

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But I really don't want it to be her.

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But she is the most posible one to get is though becouse she is already traind, but who do you wan't to det it then?

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Roran is more suited more than anyone.

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Why is he the most suited, he knows nothing of magic and little of dragons. Arya on the other hand is an expert magition and is edutated in many things. She also, in my opinion, has something for Eragon secretly which explains a way that Saphira will get her mate.

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But I don't agree with those reasons, they don't seem worthy for dragonrider. I don't think a dragonrider should know about magic and all that other stuff at first becoming one, I think he/she needs to be taught to get the full view, becasue if you already know this stuff then you're like not gettting the dragonrider story upfront.

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But where are they going to get the time to train a rider from scrach.

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Maybe CP can skim through the months of Roran being a rider and then at the end of the six months Roran will be a true dragonrider but not before Eragon.

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well im gunna agree with rien on this, i hink it will be arya, and im fine with it being that way..... BUT what if CP wants us to think these people will be the next rider, and he makes the rider someone we would have never thought about being 1 before :o

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But there are many people we think that aren't going to be.

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idk havent heard any1 mention jeod much... or Angela.... i mean i know the chances of it being them seem low, but you can never be shure till we get mor info.....

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The young to be dragonriders, not the old.

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But that is not a law of the dragon riders that you have to start at a young age so Arya is still the best person for the job.

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Plus there weren't any dragon eggs around when she was younger so she wouldn't have been able to be tested.

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But I'm talking about Jeod and Angela, not Arya, with Arya through elf years she is still considered young.

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very true scarecrow, Jeod and Angela won't be the next rider. It is going to be a main charater who gets the next egg.

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Yes, a true main character will get the egg, not a long lost friend or old witch.

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lol but I think it has to be some one already partly traind.

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Partly trained? Maybe they can skip through the six months?

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I don't think the Varden or the Elf have that sort of Time with Murtagh as the new rider being that powerful.

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I mean CP skip through the months.

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I know what you mean but during that six months what is the varden and the Elves going to be doing siting on their buts.

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Training, gaining Alliances, what else?

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But Nasuada said they would be invading the Empire and so are the Elves.

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I think they'll do it after the training.

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But they are already doing it.

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Right after that major battle? I think they need time to recuperate and time to get there new allies situated and for Eragon to finish his training.

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Good point but why wait to atack and let Galby replenish his ranks?

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Becasue they are both tired. I think they'd lose if they went head on without a rider. There are two with Galby, and none on the Varden's side if he goes to training.

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But what of the Elves the whole reason Galby didn't invade Them was because they are powerful enough to resist his power and they will be helping the varden.

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I guess, but Galby still stronger than them, even with the elves if Eragon doesn't go. Besides he needs to train somemore.

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But he may be stronger than them indevidualy but not as a group. I do agree that he will get a few more months of training in but not much.

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But you don't realize how much power Galby has. He could probably send a death line through them and kill them all in one hit.

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But what of the Elves spellweavers if they are there and defending each other they could hold him off come on look how powerful they are they can say one word and get any thing they want.

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Scarecrow wrote:
But you don't realize how much power Galby has. He could probably send a death line through them and kill them all in one hit.


well, the book never mentioned how much power galby had, but he probably has a lot.

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You speak the truth but it did say he had enough power to defeat four races of people with ease. So he has to be crazy powerful.

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I see your point and I agree with you.

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Yeah but he still has to have a weakness somewhere where Eragon finds out.

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I think his weakness is his mock conection with his dragon. That is what I would atack.

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I agree with you that the connceton between Galby and Shruikan is a weakness. How do you think Eragon would use this weakness?

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Use a spell of some sort to release Shruikan from Galby taking away alot of his power.

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Ooooo thats a good idea. Eragon would be powerful enough to pull it off after he opens the VOS and gets whatever is in there.

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I think he would be powerful enough to take down both of them after that expecaly with Saphira at his side.

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i didnt want to take the time an read everything but, i think the name "the vault of souls" is just a metaphor. i think its like a place where alot of people died or something.


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nah i think that it literally is a vault with souls


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then what exactly would come to him from opening it? power? idk....like i said i didnt want to take the time to read it all...


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I think the past souls of the Riders will enter him and strengthen him and thier dragon will strengthen Saphira.

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I think that'll give him way too much power. Just Brom and the first Eragon will do.

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I think Oromis and Vreal will also becouse of the importance of the situation.

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OHHHHH!!! Maybe Eragon couldn't finish his training because Oromis dies, so he goes to the Vault of Souls and Oromis gives him great power or he teaches him the rest!!!

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I never thought of it that whay so maybe that is the way it happens but tell me more of your Idea.

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