Ok, I've seen a LOT of discussion about this here and there. Well, I think that Brom couldn't be Eragon's father, because that would mean that Selena visited Brom during the time of Murtagh's birth and Eragon's birth. There was no recording of her being absent during that time. Also, Brom didn't leave. As for why Selena left Eragon with Garrow, I don't think that Brom had much to do with this. Still, that's my opinion.

You are correct; there are many topics similar to this one! AND it is one of my big favorites!




There are many other "little" hints that point towards Brom being Eragon's father. Look around the topics and you'll find a lot of plausible, crazy, outrageous and logical posts. Have fun!

I still don't see how Brom could be Eragon's father. According to me, Selena left because she was pregnant with Eragon. Between the birth of Murtagh and when she left, she never met Brom, so how could Brom be Eragon'f father?

Also, I don't see why Brom just wouldn't tell Eragon he was his father, IF he really was.

Selena left to protect ERagon because she had mat angela and she perdicted her future and she was told to run away and give her child to garrow and name him eragon after hte first rider. Selena also ran away because she wanted to protect eragon from morzans wrath. That way he woudnt have a scar like murtag

WOW, We must all remember that until the 3rd book is out we are all speculating here. That's part of the fun when a series is not yet completed.

That still doesn't answer my question.

Jayde, I then recommend you to browse through the topic in the index. There a similar topics with loads of opinions and speculations. Just remember to play nice!

yep, so ya thast what i think, i mean even angela said that a Woman named Selena came in to her shop and Solembum talked to her, therefore he predicted her future for free and such,


another question i have is why didnt eragon ask Solembum about selena? or did he and i dont remember........

Eragon didn't ask solembum about Selena. Even if he did, solembum probably wouldn't have given him an answer.

Could she have went to the Varden and meet him, or did he possibly meet her in Teirm where her fortune was told? I've mentioned my Varden theory elsewhere, where I expanded more, so look for it.

I see very little that could point to Brom being Eragon's father and so much poiting to Mozan being his father that there is no question in my mind who is the father. I think that thoes who believe that Brom is Eragon's dad are like the shippers in stargate that wana put major characters into romantic relationships. they believe what they want to believe and there is really not much we can do to change that.

i agree wi u brom cannot be eragons dad otherwise eragon mighthave been living with him

i know this is a little off topic but it was a little obvios that brom was a rider

i agree wi u brom cannot be eragons dad otherwise eragon mighthave been living with him

i know this is a little off topic but it was a little obvios that brom was a rider



To both of you I say, I have presented so much evidence that points to the possibility , note that the important word here is possibility, of Brom being Eragon's father, it's getting to be so repetitive and sooo boring. I have included which books and pager numbers.
If we go by these, pages and books, you would also have to accept then the possibility the Morzan is not Eragon's father. Having Murtagh said it in the Ancient Language only proves that according to him, Murtagh, he believed it to be true. So we, the Brom believers, are neither right nor wrong, as well as you guys, the Morzan believers, are neither right nor wrong, until the next book is published.

But whenm angela talks about brom and a women, it links in with selena

Don't get me started!!! OK, you already got me started, so here it goes: Brom said, “She was full of dignity and pride, like Garrow. Ultimately it was her downfall, but it was one of her greatest gifts nevertheless. . . . She always helped the poor and the less fortunate, no matter what her situation.” He answered to Eragon’s question, “You knew her well?”, “Well enough to miss her when she was gone.” Also, Blagden said “Son and father alike, both as blind as bats” after being asked what his first prophesy ment. This denotes that Blagden had met Eragon's father. Morzan had never gone to Ellesmera, though Brom had. On pg. 435 of Eragon, Angela saya, "He (Brom) loved a woman, but it was his affection which was her undoing." So what happened was she was carrying Brom's child and Morzan found out. She went to Carvahall and had Eragon. She then ran off, running from Morzan, was caught, and then killed. This enraged Brom and Brom went and killed Morzan. Later, he went to Carvahall to keep an eye on his son, Eragon.

Ok Ok! You've got me into thinking that Brom is Eragon's father. Now before the rest of you call me crazy it really does make sense when you think about it. I take back what i said in my earlier post.

I THOUGHT YOU PEOPLE WERE MENTAL UNTIL I READ THAT

I got the idea of "son and father alike, both as blind as bats" because murtagh and morzan both joined Galby, and Brom and Eragon thought Morzan and Murtagh the were good friends when they met.

good thinking

This is a copy and past of a post I did in BooksNmore's forum. Maybe this can convince you?



I've always felt that whatever Saphira may know, Joed, Ajihad, Oromis and Izslanzadi knew about Brom being Eragon's father.

Why, think over the following:

Eragon, 187
"Brom grunted. After a long silence he said, "We'd better fo out and join Eragon. I get worried when he's alone. That boy has an unnatural propensity for being where's trouble."
"Are you surprised?"
"Not really."
What's with that "not really," I think because of the 'like father, like son" thing. We know all the things Brom did after his dragon died, don't we? wink.gif


Eragon, 416
Ajihad handed Zar'roc to him. "That reminds me, I have Brom's ring, which was sent as confirmation of his identity. I was keeping it for when he returned to Tronjheim. Now that he's dead, I suppose it belongs to you, and I think he would have wanted you to have it." He opened a drawer and took the ring from it."
Why does it now belong to Eragon? Why would Ajihad say "Brom would have liked Eragon to have it? BECAUSE Eragon IS his SON! tongue.gif

Eragon, 493
"There was a low rumble. I am Osthat Chetowa, the Morning Sage. And Togira Ikonoka, the Cripple Who Is Whole. Come to me, Eragon, for I have answers to all you ask. You will not be safe until you find me."
He as all the answers to Eragon's questions, so HE WOULD know the truth of Eagon's father. And I have a feeling that's the first thing that's going to fly out of Eragon's mouth when they meet again.

Eldest, 227-8
"When she finished, Islanzadi asked, "Dragon, what is your name?"
Saphira.
A flash of recognition appeared in the queen's expression, but she made no comment on it. "Welcome to Ellesmera, Saphira. And yours, Rider?"

Down in that same paragraph; "I assume by your presence here, Eragon, so soon after Saphira's egg was captured, and by the ring on your hand and the sword on your hip, that Brom is dead and that your training with him was incomplete."
Why would the ring and the sword lead her to that conclusion, besides Brom not being there, if she did not have prior knowledge of Brom's feats and as the last of the elf friends, she must have known about Eragon's existance even if she did not know his name?

Food for thought, guys, food for thought!!!

Wow! You have put in some thought and some major time into this. Everything makes sense and more clues (yay!). Hmm...it's possible that the others did know something as to whether Brom was indeed Eragons father...I find this very interesting. Now I am really stuck...one moment I think it's Morzan and the next I am thinking it is Brom. I think I may be edging toward Brom a bit but, I am not sure...I still have something in my head saying Morzan is Eragon's father. But, again wow!! Anniebee you have really thought this one through, have evidence...man now I am super stuck...I am liking this though.

oh and are you lady phoenix on BooksNmore? just wondering...you don't have to answer.

ya know, i hadn't really thought about brom being eragon's father. i guess i just assumed morzan was. (shrug). it could really be either one. i don't know, but i would be an interesting plot twist.

i agree that Brom is Eragon's father. see the same hints as you quoted above.

but the misunderstanding in book 2 is a necessary though painful challenge to Eragon. He has to prove that he can get over the shadow of the past and he can overcome what other people assume about him. also the experience of an imperfect biology will help him to have a better understanding of his enemy.

i just hope that by the end of the day, he doesn't have to kill his half brother.

brom is eragons father cos they have the same dragon color and dragon name. also he went to carvahall to look after his son. and is it just a coincidence that brom came when eragon was born?

But she was already preagnant when she went to Carvahall, and if Brom was the father wouldn't he take care of it?

Okay, here's some food for thought. Take a look at this quote by Blagden, pg 546, ELDEST:

While two may share two,
And one of two is certainly one,
One might be two.

Murtagh and Eragon might have the same parents
Selena is definitely Eragon's mother
but one father might be two...

Pretty interesting, eh?

all the theorries seem to slide toward brom being eragons father

actually there is a record of her leaving, murtagh says so. and why would brom have to leave?

iam not sure,
like there so many ideas about how brom is eragons father
but with murtagh saying that morzan was the father in the ancient language, he could of been because he considered it. but murtagh and galby would of needed some conviction, so the twins would have to use the ancient language to convince him and so as they figured it out because of ther search of eragons head they had to mean it not just think it

anyway that blagden poem

While two may share two,
And one of two is certainly one,
One might be two

i think means saphira and eragon

two of them
one is certainly one
but they are one together

this could be a rider saying

Well first it isn't that Murtaugh considered being eragons brother by mother and father but that it was what he was told and what he then believed at the time so to him it was true.

as for the poem,
"While two may share two" doesn't mean "two of them" it means two might share two of something.
"and one of two is certainly one" you got that one right in my oppinion


and I would wonder why he would say something to him that just means that they are together and are like one. When he says something to you like that you listen and its very important. What you think it is doesn't seem like somthing he would say to me.

remember what garrow said,
brom came to carvahall 15 years ago!!

now we dont know how old eragon was when he asked garrow so that doesnt help much.

i just had a crazy idea, brom was murtaghs father and so eragon and murtagh could tease each other over there fathers, like, who come my father was a monster and you got a hero!!
just think that would be funny

Guys, guys, guys, Paloni said himself that MORZAN is Eragon's father. Don't believe me? Check out the Q & A part of his site.

Here's what was said:

The Question:
"Why did you name the second book Eldest?"

Paloni's Answer"
"The title Eldest has several layers of meaning, some of which will not become apparent until Book III. It refers to Murtagh being Eragon’s older brother. But it also refers to Roran, Nasuada, Katrina, Orik, and all the other characters who are either older than Eragon or who are dealing with their own inheritances and assuming the tasks and responsiblities of the previous generation."

yes but just because morzan is eragon brother doesn't mean brom can't be eragon's father

I think you mean Murtagh. There is NO doubt that Morzan is Murtagh's father. So by saying that Murtagh and Eragon are brothers, but Brom is Eragon's father- that's basically saying that Eragon's mom was unfaithful to her husband. And from what I understood, Eragon's mother was more respectable than that- even though her husband was bad.

I agree. b/c brom and selena didn't do it. morzan and selena did it.......twice.

Ok guys, Ive listen to much about Brom being Eragon's father. Just to give a light:
Doesnt anyone remember Angelas prediction for Eragons future????? She said the betrayal would come from Eragons family!!! Nothing more natural than his own brother turn to the dark side!!! I mean, If Murtagh is only Eragons half brother, WHO WOULD BETRAY HIM IN BOOK THREE? I mean, alive in Eragons family we just have Roran (and Murtagh, but some people doesnt think so) and Roran wouldnt betray Eragon, he only wants to recue Katrina, and certainly, he will not join the ones who kidnapped her. So wake up for the truth and make your self free from the spell that keeps you anchored to the reality of Brom being Eragons father. And for you that still sleeping and dreaming that Brom is Eragons daddy, you just like Eragon and want a good daddy for him. If you keep believing this, you´ll be very disapointed at the end of the triology.

And finally,

BROM IS NOT ERAGON'S FATHER!!!! MORZAN IS!!!! PLZ WAKE UP...

^ I agree with you ^

But I can see where the others are coming from because Murtagh would still be family- even though he's a half brother. It's like a step-family. They still are family, just not blood family. Angela never said specifically that a 'full' member of Eragon's family would betray him.

But there wouldn't be any point of CP saying that Morzan was their father in the end of Eldest if it wasn't really true. Why would he say that? It's not like Eragon can do anything special knowing Morzan was his father.

The reason why CP announced so climatic-ally was because the reader could then see the parallel between Eragon and Murtagh being brothers.

I mean seriously, if it was announced in the 3rd book that Brom was really the father- wouldn't that be kind of... un-climatic? And so late in the series?

murtagh would still be related to eragon if brom was his father

But not so related as it would be if Murtagh is Eragons full brother and he is son of Morzan.

yes but how close of family he is doesn't matter he is still family.

But it would be boringer, or more boring, than he being Eragons full brother

^Thank goodness I'm not the only one that thinks that <3 ^

triky question, with a very simple ansver: becouse eragons father is morzan

Whoa.. I never thought of it like that. (Maybe i'll rip off the argument and use it in the other thread.. Ahemm) I am so glad that someone other than me is pushing the FACT that Morzan is Eragon's father and NOT Brom. You've found a friend here!

I agree with you too!
But I never thought of that paticualer argument... good job!
I thank you I might have to use that with some of my friends. See what they say to THAT!

i agree with u coz brom would have been over a hundred years old at the time and selena lives a normal span of years

Haha, yay, Brom IS Eragon's father!!! yay for him! yay for Eragon! but this topic.....haha.