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Post Murtagh VS Eragon
Who ever else was pissed about Eragon losing to him put in comments


October 31st, 2005, 9:48 pm Profile
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it just proves that eragon isnt all powerful, he still has to train, a nice twist in the story


November 1st, 2005, 3:27 am Profile
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yea & plus eragon like had no enesrgy cuz he wuz fighting in that battle 4 like ever

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November 1st, 2005, 2:43 pm Profile
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he wouldnt have beaten murtagh even if he was feeling fresh. Murtagh got the bad spells that galbatorix found from the forbidden ancient books.


November 2nd, 2005, 6:23 am Profile
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but he mite been even in swordsmenship

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November 2nd, 2005, 11:45 am Profile
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no...eragon is better at that..it said that murtagh was good at it but not as fast or agile..eragon would be able to beat him in just a sword fight without any magic if he wasn't tired


November 3rd, 2005, 6:03 am Profile
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yea thats wut i waz trying 2 sey

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November 4th, 2005, 1:24 am Profile
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oh, yeah sorry. Now i understand ur post


November 4th, 2005, 8:47 am Profile
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lol it wuz knida writenin a confusing way

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duck duck gosse:
i love being hyper
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I'm crazy and wacky when I eat sugar, but I'm nice

Scarecrow went over my head with the Duck, Duck, Goose thing
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November 4th, 2005, 11:47 am Profile
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Yea what do u think about murtough and him not looking like an elf? why is he so powerful after no transformation im still angry about him losing i thought he was the b est


November 4th, 2005, 10:52 pm Profile
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because, thorn is much younger than saphira, and murtagh hasnt been a dragon rider as long. He still looks mainly human. Plus eragon did the blood oath thingy, and that made him more elfy. Murtagh is stronger because he learned the secret spells only galbotorix knows


November 5th, 2005, 7:43 am Profile
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STRENGTH COMES IN TIME!!! so if they are younger and didnt have the blood oath ( eragon was much more powerful after blood oath) then he shouldnt be stronger!!!

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November 5th, 2005, 11:02 pm Profile
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but he used black spells 2 enhance his strength plus like i sed earlier eragon wuz supper weak cuz he had no energy left cuz of the battle

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duck duck gosse:
i love being hyper
monkeys will take over the world using....cookies!!!-forever or untill chirma seys
I'm crazy and wacky when I eat sugar, but I'm nice

Scarecrow went over my head with the Duck, Duck, Goose thing
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November 5th, 2005, 11:04 pm Profile
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yeah well galbatorix is the Strongest and he taught murtagh!!!


November 6th, 2005, 3:37 am Profile
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yea plus eragon wuz weak from fighting bso hedidn't standa chance :(

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nirvana,panic! at the disco, system of a down, the used,queen, weird al, my chemical romance ...( i <3rockmusic>oldies-> heavy meatal)

greys antonomy is my new favoritest show!!!!


duck duck gosse:
i love being hyper
monkeys will take over the world using....cookies!!!-forever or untill chirma seys
I'm crazy and wacky when I eat sugar, but I'm nice

Scarecrow went over my head with the Duck, Duck, Goose thing
Scarecrow is the coolest dude ever in the world
me and Scarecrow are best friends
Me and Scarecrow are the coolest members together on Saphira Forums


November 6th, 2005, 2:23 pm Profile
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Eragonshould have won! :twisted:

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November 7th, 2005, 9:36 pm Profile
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ya i agree eragon need to rest and when murtagh betrayed eragon i was so mad that i cried but i still think that murtagh is cool and besides murtagh did not even kill eragon

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November 20th, 2005, 10:24 pm Profile
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I hate how galbatorix made mortag say thoughs oaths to make him like that.


November 20th, 2005, 11:16 pm Profile
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ya me to i mean murtagh did not want to say the oath but king galbatorix made him i wish i was in the story because i would have kill king galbatorix

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Your arms are my castle, your heart is my sky.
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'Cause everytime we touch, I get this feeling.
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November 21st, 2005, 10:42 pm Profile
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yeah but galbatorix is super powerful i dont know if anybody could kill him unless eragon learns the forbiden magic

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November 21st, 2005, 11:01 pm Profile
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ya i agree

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"Everytime We Touch"

I still hear your voice, when you sleep next to me.
I still feel your touch in my dreams.
Forgive me my weakness, but I don't know why
Without you it's hard to survive.

'Cause everytime we touch, I feel this static.
And everytime we kiss, I reach for the sky.
Can't you hear my heart beat so...
I can't let you go.
Want you in my life.

Your arms are my castle, your heart is my sky.
They wipe away tears that I cry.
The good and the bad times, we've been through them all.
You make me rise when I fall.

'Cause everytime we touch, I get this feeling.
And everytime we kiss I swear I could fly.
Can't you feel my heart beat fast, I want this to last.
Need you by my side.
'Cause everytime we touch, I feel this static.
And everytime we kiss, I reach for the sky.
Can't you hear my heart beat so...
I can't let you go.
Want you in my life.


November 21st, 2005, 11:26 pm Profile
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and i was wondering, were did galbatorix learn the forbiden magic

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November 21st, 2005, 11:38 pm Profile
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ya i was wondering that to lol

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"Everytime We Touch"

I still hear your voice, when you sleep next to me.
I still feel your touch in my dreams.
Forgive me my weakness, but I don't know why
Without you it's hard to survive.

'Cause everytime we touch, I feel this static.
And everytime we kiss, I reach for the sky.
Can't you hear my heart beat so...
I can't let you go.
Want you in my life.

Your arms are my castle, your heart is my sky.
They wipe away tears that I cry.
The good and the bad times, we've been through them all.
You make me rise when I fall.

'Cause everytime we touch, I get this feeling.
And everytime we kiss I swear I could fly.
Can't you feel my heart beat fast, I want this to last.
Need you by my side.
'Cause everytime we touch, I feel this static.
And everytime we kiss, I reach for the sky.
Can't you hear my heart beat so...
I can't let you go.
Want you in my life.


November 22nd, 2005, 12:44 am Profile
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I thought he just flew away(MurTagh) I didnt know Eragon lost! GRRRR! :x

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December 2nd, 2005, 3:28 pm Profile
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ya i agree

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"Everytime We Touch"

I still hear your voice, when you sleep next to me.
I still feel your touch in my dreams.
Forgive me my weakness, but I don't know why
Without you it's hard to survive.

'Cause everytime we touch, I feel this static.
And everytime we kiss, I reach for the sky.
Can't you hear my heart beat so...
I can't let you go.
Want you in my life.

Your arms are my castle, your heart is my sky.
They wipe away tears that I cry.
The good and the bad times, we've been through them all.
You make me rise when I fall.

'Cause everytime we touch, I get this feeling.
And everytime we kiss I swear I could fly.
Can't you feel my heart beat fast, I want this to last.
Need you by my side.
'Cause everytime we touch, I feel this static.
And everytime we kiss, I reach for the sky.
Can't you hear my heart beat so...
I can't let you go.
Want you in my life.


December 2nd, 2005, 10:01 pm Profile
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cool, some one agrees with me!

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It's because galbatorix the mighty-evil teach murtagh himself with powerful dark magic, and eragon still on a shock and exhausted.. Wait! If the forbidden ancient magics was the main factor causing eragon's lost... Will eragon learn them to??

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You guys have to remember Galbatroixs strength increases with every kill and he might have taught Murtagh the same thing so his strength increases.


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yeah

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Hmmm, what can make a regular human magicaly powerfull within a short time...anyhow I think Galbatorix and Murtagh are leaching power off of trapped dragon spirits, or maybe living ones, anyhow thats me and my crazy theory.

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hu intresting. i wonder if they have some sort of stones like eragon does

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Saphira102 wrote:
You guys have to remember Galbatroixs strength increases with every kill and he might have taught Murtagh the same thing so his strength increases.

:( It aches with the thought murtagh did some massacre to increase the strength... too much pitty and grief if he did... i hope he doesn't do the killing. There's still hope he's indeed a good guy in the end, then..

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galby got the scrolls when he destroyed the riders and murtagh is powerful because galby knows his name and is probably transfering power to the name but thats just me


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wait is galby galbatorix???

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December 17th, 2005, 6:31 pm Profile
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eragonluver52 wrote:
wait is galby galbatorix???

I think it is; they were just shortening it so they wouldn't have to type out the whole name.

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it is. people shorten it so it wouldnt take so long :idea:


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why it's galby, why not just galbs... sweet! Galby baby :lol:

is it true that galbs can transfer his power if he knew people's name? Cool..

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Anyway... I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE ERAGON LOST!!!!!


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Eragon should have lost, if he won easily there will be no story, ya! :lol:

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Losing just makes Eragon realize how far he has yet to go.... it also strengthens his conviction that some magic is supposed to remain secret. Eragon was also tired and would have definately beat him at swordsmanship if he wasn't. Saphira was hurt and tired too, so if they had met him in the beginning of the battle... Murtagh would have most likely lost. Galbatorix probably knew this and that's why Murtagh waited before attacking.

I don't Murtagh is getting his power from people he killed.... remember he said he learned how to take energy from other energy (like fire). That's probably how he did it. Also Galbatorix is teaching him and he's had centuries to perfect his craft.

Even though Murtagh is with Galbatorix now... I still don't hate him or even slightly dislike him. I still like Murtagh, because it's not his fault that he has to fight with Galbatorix. We know that he hates Galbatorix, but apparently he's also started to pollute Murtagh's mind with his thoughts. Somehow I still think Murtagh will come back.


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Really? i don't like murtagh that much...

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Galby never learn that you could sap power i though :?: :?: :?:


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Saphira Brightscales wrote:
Even though Murtagh is with Galbatorix now... I still don't hate him or even slightly dislike him. I still like Murtagh, because it's not his fault that he has to fight with Galbatorix. We know that he hates Galbatorix, but apparently he's also started to pollute Murtagh's mind with his thoughts. Somehow I still think Murtagh will come back.






yea i don't hate im but i do kinda dislike him beacause he vaules his life way more then he vaules the other ppl in the so he wouldn't die for the good of the rest of the world or even consider eragon helping him because he was afraid of galtorix finding him and killing him

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i was sad when murtagh beat him because ... its crazy eragon is as fast as an elf and he still lost :evil:

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Saphira Brightscales wrote:
Losing just makes Eragon realize how far he has yet to go.... it also strengthens his conviction that some magic is supposed to remain secret. Eragon was also tired and would have definately beat him at swordsmanship if he wasn't. Saphira was hurt and tired too, so if they had met him in the beginning of the battle... Murtagh would have most likely lost. Galbatorix probably knew this and that's why Murtagh waited before attacking.

I don't Murtagh is getting his power from people he killed.... remember he said he learned how to take energy from other energy (like fire). That's probably how he did it. Also Galbatorix is teaching him and he's had centuries to perfect his craft.

Even though Murtagh is with Galbatorix now... I still don't hate him or even slightly dislike him. I still like Murtagh, because it's not his fault that he has to fight with Galbatorix. We know that he hates Galbatorix, but apparently he's also started to pollute Murtagh's mind with his thoughts. Somehow I still think Murtagh will come back.


Murtagh has gone mad with power like Galby i agree with u

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shurtugal wrote:
no...eragon is better at that..it said that murtagh was good at it but not as fast or agile..eragon would be able to beat him in just a sword fight without any magic if he wasn't tired


Actually, I believe the book says that they were equal in ability.

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:D When it comes to good vs. evil, good will always prevail... but in this case... its a tough chance.... i couldnt believe it myself that eragon lost to his brother... i mean it was a total shocking ending to the book eldest...but it gave it a good twist.... how it will turn out who knows.... especially since eragon is an elf now gave readers alot of hope to winning the battle but our hopes were squandered in the end when he seemed totally and udderly helpless... i was sad and dissapointed... but we will hopefully find out soon what will happen... and hopefully soon....
But i found it weird that although the book eragon was shorter than eldest, while reading it, it was vise versa for me... maybe i will find out as soon as i read them again.... :wink:

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well. good should always prevail. but unfortnatly in real life it doesn't & won't.
..but then that's thegreat thing about books. it's your ending. what i do like, is that if good wins (i totally think it will) it's not been a peice of cake. the good vs. evil is a hellatious battle. full of sacrifice and pain. cp has put that in his world of eragon. and that makes the story sooo much better.
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.and ps. eragon is not an elf...he is elf like, but still human. :wink:

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Yes and remeber how it said that Murtagh did not even act as if he were losing energy but just as if he were using it from others.., but I still think Eragon would have won because of the things he has learned I wonder who picked the land they were fighting on I mean it can not be just a coincidence eragon learns how to use energy from other living things then Eragon get to fight there I mean.... But out of all Eragon would have won if it were not for his loss of magic in the wards, and always worrying of Arya and if she were ok.... Gosh its like he doesnt think she can do anything shes just an elf ay....

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arya-saphira post said
: "the good vs. evil is a hellatious battle. full of sacrifice and pain."

I totally agree with you on this one; Eragon has gone through a lot of loss and pain while at the same time this is part of the process of his personal growth and maturation. I feel that because of this, he has not lost the true perspective of the mission he chose to fight for; it has also allowed him to remain humble, sensitive and empathic towards the pain and worth of the goals which have been set in the storyline. It complies with the hero-journey of the genre.




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..."i couldnt believe it myself that eragon lost to his brother.."

LOL, I was just so furious and frustrated. I really thought he would kick Murtag's rear. :oops: After I cooled down, I listened and read the books again and realized that it would have not fitted the plot.. How would the reader have known (in such a shocking way) about the family connection between Murtag and Eragon? How else would we have known about the part the Twins played in Ajihad's death? (I thought they were no good since their first appearance in the book; even if I couldn't understand what was the reason for their antagonism to Eragon, "the elf" and Orik?) I was SOOOO upset at the fact that he lost in all so many ways.

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