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Eragon the movie - very inaccurate (i have lots of evidence)
Eragon – the movie
Hi just to state for the record, this is just my opinion. i am in no way putting down the film and i am just state for reference changes made. Some may be good other not so, i will give my opinion once or twice but i am not saying the movie is bad, im just commenting on the clips and trailer i have seen. Anyway the movie comes out in 8 days in Australia and from the trailers I have seen, it looks okay.
I have seen 8 different trailers and about 12 various clips from the movie (most of which posted on shurtugal.com) and I have a few points I’d like to make:
1. Physical aspects changed
Arya: Eragon Hair and rounded ears.
Okay I’m sure that everyone has pointed out these physical aspects that are incorrect. The hair I don’t mind as I believe that the director was trying to distinguish her from Arwen (Lord of the Rings). But what is beyond me is that it is clearly stated and a known fact that elves have pointed ears!
Eragon: Blonde hair and blue gem in his sword
I don’t actually mind the whole changing of the hair colours as long as they are natural. But the blue gem (which looks like plastic) is not stated anywhere in the book as well as if they were going to give his sword a gem, it should have been red seeing his sword was once Morzan’s.
Brom: No beard
Well I love Jeremy Irons, fabulous actor. But would it kill them just to stick a beard on him. Apparently his beard is suppose to have a mind of it’s own when blowing in the wind. but it's not a big deal, i love jeremy irons!
Alijad: Brown armor
I read in a forum that Alijad armor is all wrong, he is suppose to have gold amour but in the movie fight scenes he has brown armor which looks simpler to leather. Not a big deal but is noted.
Roran: No beard, looks just like Eragon
I’ve seen a few pictures of Roran and his character is portrayed differently. The director his cast something that looks very very similar to Eragon (I guess he thought that they were meant to look the same because of their relation) anyway some people have said that roran has a beard? i don't know anyway he looks the same age if not younger than Eragon and I’m not sure if he is suppose to have brown hair or not, but in the movie he is blonde.
Kulls: Too human
In the big fight scenes, seen mostly to the end of the trailer, all the Kulls look pretty much like humans with painted lines and dots all over their faces. If you ask me, they just look lame.
There are many other physical features that are according to the book not accurate but these are the most noticeable. Overall Apart from Eragon’s sword, Arya’s ears and Brom’s beard (I don’t really mind) other than that they did a pretty good job.
2. Not green magic when teleporting the egg?
When Arya teleports the egg, which is in nearly every trailer. It states in the book that green magic illuminates the egg or something like that, but in the movie it’s looks more blue, could just be because the egg is blue. Not a big deal.
3. Arya’s identity revealed
In the Japanese Trailer, which is in English but with Japanese subtitles, there is a scene in which Eragon is walking through the woods and Arya talks to him. She says “I’m Arya, PRINCESS of Ellesmera”. I find this a let down as everyone who has read Eldest, or Eragon for that matter, knows that Eragon does not find out Arya is a princess till the second book. She never tells him, he finds out when they meet Queen Izlanzadi. Clip can be found on youtube.com or in the media section of shurtugal.com, goes for 2min 39sec
4. Arya not in self-induced state not covered in bruises. Scene with Durza.
I have seen the newest clip “Eragon VS Durza” posted on shurtugal.com and there is a big change in the story when Eragon goes to save Arya.
Firstly: Murtagh is not with him at the time. He may show up but in the book he enters the cell after Eragon and comments on Arya’s beauty.
Second: When he goes into the prison cell, Arya is lying down, not standing up in which we know (in the book) that she collapses and Eragon catches her. Not to mention in the clip Arya was awake and TALKS to Eragon and also knows his name. She says
“Eragon she shouldn’t have come” etc… but as well all know he doesn’t find out her name until he reaches into her mind which is meant to be days after their escape.
Third: From what I have seen, in this clip we see her lying down on a stone block, she has no bruises, cuts, burns etc… on her. She doesn’t look mangled and she is breathing irregularly (which is not supposed to happen for a day or two). She is also suppose to have her arms covered, which I the movie she doesn’t, so that when Eragon accidentally pulls off one of her sleeves he says her cuts and scars.
Forth: Durza shows up behind Eragon in the cell and talks to him. This is not supposed to happen. Eragon and Murtagh are supposed to fight Durza on a completely different floor to my knowledge.
5. Arya’s personality in the movie, is she too nice?
Well in the new clip along with Eragon VS Durza, there is another clip called “Eragon and Arya” also found on shurtugal.com. This is the final scene between Eragon and Arya saying their farewell. If you ask me Arya is far too nice to Eragon, she is not really portrayed as the cold, withdrawn, pain and suffering Arya we all know from the books.
Also she smiles at Eragon after he tells he about how he believes legend go. We know that Arya doesn’t really smile. She also half-laughs in this scene, which once again we know that Eragon doesn’t believe elves laugh till he says her in the second book. Personality I think that the director is making it seem too much like Arya is affectionate towards Eragon, feeling the same way he does towards her. We know this isn’t true, well at least that she is not really affectionate or that nice to him, I guess that Hollywood for you, a romance is every movie. Maybe they are trying to show a softer side to arya, but we'll see.
6. Galbortorix in the movie?
This really doesn’t bother me, but it is just something to point out. I guess maybe he was there to give orders, but I will be pissed if he fights or something or other.
7. What the… is Durza flying on?
I curious as to what on earth Durza is flying on. There is no indication that he was flying on anything when he fights Eragon, and in one of the new clips on shurtugal.com there is fight scene in which Eragon and Durza are fighting in the skies. (Clip five - Fight scene between Eragon and Saphira, and Durza astride his magical mount.)
That’s all I’ve pick up on so far from the trailers I’ve seen, but by all means ill still see the movie. But all of these little details and changes to the story have annoyed me little but it can't be helped. It's just a movie. I hope they just don’t screw up Eldest as I liked that book better. Anyway i look forward to see the movie, i bet there will be much to discuss then.
What are your thoughts?
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The stupid black chikin that durza rides on is so retarted, this guy who helped with the game said it was a dragon!? That made me laugh.
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Hmm.... you guys are nicer than the people in the Inheritance forum. i've got the same poll running over there, to get more opinions. Oh and yes it wasn't a mistake, Eragon in australia comes out 1 day earlier (December 14th). Do you think because of all the critisism they will change the elve's ears to being pointy IF they have a second movie. i hope they do, because when Eragon changes into an elf fully (in eldest) he gets the pointy ears. got any thoughts how they are going to make him "beautiful"?
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Maybe it's supposed to be a Ra' Zac's parent?
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Do I have to say it again? No movie is going to be the same to the book. If you're looking for a movie that will copy every small little detail from the movie then don't see the movie. The movie is an adaptions of the book. Quit having unrealistic hopes for the movie.
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December 6th, 2006, 2:36 pm |
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well for a movie to copy every single detail that would be highly unrealistic. Thats not what im saying, like i said after many points, i don't mind these things, im just showing things that are different and stating some sections of the movie that could have been better. some changes of the story that IMO are unnecessary. I'm not having unrealistic hopes of the movie, there is no such thing as a perfect book turned movie THAT would be unrealistic. Plus this is not just an adaptation but as stated in a clip of the making of eragon it says that the movie is BASED on the book not just ideas taken.
I am definiate going to see the movie, no stopping me from doing that. I can't expect it to be perfect but i am titled to my own opinion about what i like and don't like about the trailers and what clips i've seen of the movie, afterall this is a forum
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December 6th, 2006, 5:28 pm |
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We're complaing more then the LOTR fans did. A lot more of LOTR was cut out and parts added from there.
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If it is only the small details like the color of a stone or ears that is not as bad as changeing the story. Like in LotR having Arwen riding with Frodo to escape the Ringwraiths or having elves at Helms Deep. I like elves as much as the next guy, but did he really have to have to add them to helms deep?
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Dude, have you read LOTR? They skip entire parts that made the book unique.
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I picked the last one. It looks terrible from what I've seen so far, but I might be wrong.
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Re: Eragon the movie - very inaccurate (i have lots of evide
little one wrote: Eragon – the movie
Hi just to state for the record, this is just my opinion. i am in no way putting down the film and i am just state for reference changes made. Some may be good other not so, i will give my opinion once or twice but i am not saying the movie is bad, im just commenting on the clips and trailer i have seen. Anyway the movie comes out in 8 days in Australia and from the trailers I have seen, it looks okay.
I have seen 8 different trailers and about 12 various clips from the movie (most of which posted on shurtugal.com) and I have a few points I’d like to make:
1. Physical aspects changed
Arya: Eragon Hair and rounded ears.
Okay I’m sure that everyone has pointed out these physical aspects that are incorrect. The hair I don’t mind as I believe that the director was trying to distinguish her from Arwen (Lord of the Rings). But what is beyond me is that it is clearly stated and a known fact that elves have pointed ears!
Eragon: Blonde hair and blue gem in his sword
I don’t actually mind the whole changing of the hair colours as long as they are natural. But the blue gem (which looks like plastic) is not stated anywhere in the book as well as if they were going to give his sword a gem, it should have been red seeing his sword was once Morzan’s.
Brom: No beard
Well I love Jeremy Irons, fabulous actor. But would it kill them just to stick a beard on him. Apparently his beard is suppose to have a mind of it’s own when blowing in the wind. but it's not a big deal, i love jeremy irons!
Alijad: Brown armor
I read in a forum that Alijad armor is all wrong, he is suppose to have gold amour but in the movie fight scenes he has brown armor which looks simpler to leather. Not a big deal but is noted.
Roran: No beard, looks just like Eragon
I’ve seen a few pictures of Roran and his character is portrayed differently. The director his cast something that looks very very similar to Eragon (I guess he thought that they were meant to look the same because of their relation) anyway some people have said that roran has a beard? i don't know anyway he looks the same age if not younger than Eragon and I’m not sure if he is suppose to have brown hair or not, but in the movie he is blonde.
Kulls: Too human
In the big fight scenes, seen mostly to the end of the trailer, all the Kulls look pretty much like humans with painted lines and dots all over their faces. If you ask me, they just look lame.
There are many other physical features that are according to the book not accurate but these are the most noticeable. Overall Apart from Eragon’s sword, Arya’s ears and Brom’s beard (I don’t really mind) other than that they did a pretty good job.
2. Not green magic when teleporting the egg?
When Arya teleports the egg, which is in nearly every trailer. It states in the book that green magic illuminates the egg or something like that, but in the movie it’s looks more blue, could just be because the egg is blue. Not a big deal.
3. Arya’s identity revealed
In the Japanese Trailer, which is in English but with Japanese subtitles, there is a scene in which Eragon is walking through the woods and Arya talks to him. She says “I’m Arya, PRINCESS of Ellesmera”. I find this a let down as everyone who has read Eldest, or Eragon for that matter, knows that Eragon does not find out Arya is a princess till the second book. She never tells him, he finds out when they meet Queen Izlanzadi. Clip can be found on youtube.com or in the media section of shurtugal.com, goes for 2min 39sec
4. Arya not in self-induced state not covered in bruises. Scene with Durza.
I have seen the newest clip “Eragon VS Durza” posted on shurtugal.com and there is a big change in the story when Eragon goes to save Arya.
Firstly: Murtagh is not with him at the time. He may show up but in the book he enters the cell after Eragon and comments on Arya’s beauty.
Second: When he goes into the prison cell, Arya is lying down, not standing up in which we know (in the book) that she collapses and Eragon catches her. Not to mention in the clip Arya was awake and TALKS to Eragon and also knows his name. She says “Eragon she shouldn’t have come” etc… but as well all know he doesn’t find out her name until he reaches into her mind which is meant to be days after their escape.
Third: From what I have seen, in this clip we see her lying down on a stone block, she has no bruises, cuts, burns etc… on her. She doesn’t look mangled and she is breathing irregularly (which is not supposed to happen for a day or two). She is also suppose to have her arms covered, which I the movie she doesn’t, so that when Eragon accidentally pulls off one of her sleeves he says her cuts and scars.
Forth: Durza shows up behind Eragon in the cell and talks to him. This is not supposed to happen. Eragon and Murtagh are supposed to fight Durza on a completely different floor to my knowledge.
5. Arya’s personality in the movie, is she too nice?
Well in the new clip along with Eragon VS Durza, there is another clip called “Eragon and Arya” also found on shurtugal.com. This is the final scene between Eragon and Arya saying their farewell. If you ask me Arya is far too nice to Eragon, she is not really portrayed as the cold, withdrawn, pain and suffering Arya we all know from the books.
Also she smiles at Eragon after he tells he about how he believes legend go. We know that Arya doesn’t really smile. She also half-laughs in this scene, which once again we know that Eragon doesn’t believe elves laugh till he says her in the second book. Personality I think that the director is making it seem too much like Arya is affectionate towards Eragon, feeling the same way he does towards her. We know this isn’t true, well at least that she is not really affectionate or that nice to him, I guess that Hollywood for you, a romance is every movie. Maybe they are trying to show a softer side to arya, but we'll see.
6. Galbortorix in the movie?
This really doesn’t bother me, but it is just something to point out. I guess maybe he was there to give orders, but I will be pissed if he fights or something or other.
7. What the… is Durza flying on?
I curious as to what on earth Durza is flying on. There is no indication that he was flying on anything when he fights Eragon, and in one of the new clips on shurtugal.com there is fight scene in which Eragon and Durza are fighting in the skies. (Clip five - Fight scene between Eragon and Saphira, and Durza astride his magical mount.)
That’s all I’ve pick up on so far from the trailers I’ve seen, but by all means ill still see the movie. But all of these little details and changes to the story have annoyed me little but it can't be helped. It's just a movie. I hope they just don’t screw up Eldest as I liked that book better. Anyway i look forward to see the movie, i bet there will be much to discuss then.
What are your thoughts?
i agree 100 %
and id like to add one thing
The Ra'zac
Also on the Shurtugal.com trailers, it shows Brom stabbing one to death
also they look like half mummy, half african bushmen
another complaint: the movie is too much different then the book
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December 7th, 2006, 2:36 am |
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More or less i just hope they keep the story enjoyable. ive never read LOTR and from what i hear the movie was not that accurate but i enjoy all the movies greatly (and they won many academic awards) so either way if the movie is enjoy i have no complaints.
TWO MORE CLIPS on shurtugal.com
Eragon meeting Murtagh and Eragon flying with Saphira, check it out!
Oh and i really like the Arya and Eragon clip at the end (also on shurtugal.com)
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I think that if you haven't read the book, Eragon the movie will be great. If you have read it, like all of us, I think it will be disappointing. Not so much for the subtle changes, like the hair color, but because of the major differences. From what I have seen of all the clips, the major changes they have made, are what made the story unique in the first place.
A few things I have noticed that will be different, that noone has metioned so far...
This evening on the catoon network, they aired a movie preview which included the clip of Eragon helping Saphira learn to fly. But the clip was longer and showed Saphira telling Eragon that "I am Saphira and you are my rider"
To me this difference is annoying because they skipped the actual way she got her name. It wouldn't be a big deal, except that her name, and the way she gets it, is of great significance in relation with Brom and the name of his dragon. It also helps support that Brom could turn out to be Eragon's real father in book 3. Would it really have taken much more time in the movie to have done the naming process correctly??!!
And yes, that 1 clip does look as though 1 of the Ra'zaac gets killed, which we know doesn't happen. They are still alive going into Book 3.
Arya's personality is way off. She would have NEVER said "He's the only one who can save us"
Or how about Murtagh volunteering to take Eragon to the Varden? First of all, he never wanted to go and argued with Eragon about it the entire way!! Second, he did not know where the Varden was. Eragon learned how to get there when he went into Arya's mind.
And finally, the clips show Saphira blowing fire repeatedly. In the first book, she only blows fire 1 time, when the star sapphire is broken. And again, I think the book was wrote that way for a purpose,and her blowing fire is of great significance. They should not have changed that part.
I know, I am whining like a lot of others, it seems. I will see the movie, and love every bit of it. But I think by pointing out the differences in the book and the movie just shows that we all are true fans and really love the book to be able to find all these differences!!
Besides, I am hoping and praying that they will release the date for the third book at the movie premier!! Think about it..... It would make perfect advertising sense!!! lol!!
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I think if you haven't read the book that the movie would be good but for all of us who have read the book it is a pretty big let down. They change too many things even things that don't take extra just to state correctly like about Saphira's name. That is me giving them the excuse that maybe they were trying to make the movie a spacific length but otherwise it was a huge let down for book readers i think.
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My dad loved the movie, of course he hasn't read the book.
I hated that silly beast that Durza conjured up at the final battle.
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Re: Eragon the movie - very inaccurate (i have lots of evide
little one wrote: Eragon – the movie
Hi just to state for the record, this is just my opinion. i am in no way putting down the film and i am just state for reference changes made. Some may be good other not so, i will give my opinion once or twice but i am not saying the movie is bad, im just commenting on the clips and trailer i have seen. Anyway the movie comes out in 8 days in Australia and from the trailers I have seen, it looks okay.
I have seen 8 different trailers and about 12 various clips from the movie (most of which posted on shurtugal.com) and I have a few points I’d like to make:
1. Physical aspects changed
Arya: Eragon Hair and rounded ears.
Okay I’m sure that everyone has pointed out these physical aspects that are incorrect. The hair I don’t mind as I believe that the director was trying to distinguish her from Arwen (Lord of the Rings). But what is beyond me is that it is clearly stated and a known fact that elves have pointed ears!
Eragon: Blonde hair and blue gem in his sword
I don’t actually mind the whole changing of the hair colours as long as they are natural. But the blue gem (which looks like plastic) is not stated anywhere in the book as well as if they were going to give his sword a gem, it should have been red seeing his sword was once Morzan’s.
Brom: No beard
Well I love Jeremy Irons, fabulous actor. But would it kill them just to stick a beard on him. Apparently his beard is suppose to have a mind of it’s own when blowing in the wind. but it's not a big deal, i love jeremy irons!
Alijad: Brown armor
I read in a forum that Alijad armor is all wrong, he is suppose to have gold amour but in the movie fight scenes he has brown armor which looks simpler to leather. Not a big deal but is noted.
Roran: No beard, looks just like Eragon
I’ve seen a few pictures of Roran and his character is portrayed differently. The director his cast something that looks very very similar to Eragon (I guess he thought that they were meant to look the same because of their relation) anyway some people have said that roran has a beard? i don't know anyway he looks the same age if not younger than Eragon and I’m not sure if he is suppose to have brown hair or not, but in the movie he is blonde.
Kulls: Too human
In the big fight scenes, seen mostly to the end of the trailer, all the Kulls look pretty much like humans with painted lines and dots all over their faces. If you ask me, they just look lame.
There are many other physical features that are according to the book not accurate but these are the most noticeable. Overall Apart from Eragon’s sword, Arya’s ears and Brom’s beard (I don’t really mind) other than that they did a pretty good job.
2. Not green magic when teleporting the egg?
When Arya teleports the egg, which is in nearly every trailer. It states in the book that green magic illuminates the egg or something like that, but in the movie it’s looks more blue, could just be because the egg is blue. Not a big deal.
3. Arya’s identity revealed
In the Japanese Trailer, which is in English but with Japanese subtitles, there is a scene in which Eragon is walking through the woods and Arya talks to him. She says “I’m Arya, PRINCESS of Ellesmera”. I find this a let down as everyone who has read Eldest, or Eragon for that matter, knows that Eragon does not find out Arya is a princess till the second book. She never tells him, he finds out when they meet Queen Izlanzadi. Clip can be found on youtube.com or in the media section of shurtugal.com, goes for 2min 39sec
4. Arya not in self-induced state not covered in bruises. Scene with Durza.
I have seen the newest clip “Eragon VS Durza” posted on shurtugal.com and there is a big change in the story when Eragon goes to save Arya.
Firstly: Murtagh is not with him at the time. He may show up but in the book he enters the cell after Eragon and comments on Arya’s beauty.
Second: When he goes into the prison cell, Arya is lying down, not standing up in which we know (in the book) that she collapses and Eragon catches her. Not to mention in the clip Arya was awake and TALKS to Eragon and also knows his name. She says “Eragon she shouldn’t have come” etc… but as well all know he doesn’t find out her name until he reaches into her mind which is meant to be days after their escape.
Third: From what I have seen, in this clip we see her lying down on a stone block, she has no bruises, cuts, burns etc… on her. She doesn’t look mangled and she is breathing irregularly (which is not supposed to happen for a day or two). She is also suppose to have her arms covered, which I the movie she doesn’t, so that when Eragon accidentally pulls off one of her sleeves he says her cuts and scars.
Forth: Durza shows up behind Eragon in the cell and talks to him. This is not supposed to happen. Eragon and Murtagh are supposed to fight Durza on a completely different floor to my knowledge.
5. Arya’s personality in the movie, is she too nice?
Well in the new clip along with Eragon VS Durza, there is another clip called “Eragon and Arya” also found on shurtugal.com. This is the final scene between Eragon and Arya saying their farewell. If you ask me Arya is far too nice to Eragon, she is not really portrayed as the cold, withdrawn, pain and suffering Arya we all know from the books.
Also she smiles at Eragon after he tells he about how he believes legend go. We know that Arya doesn’t really smile. She also half-laughs in this scene, which once again we know that Eragon doesn’t believe elves laugh till he says her in the second book. Personality I think that the director is making it seem too much like Arya is affectionate towards Eragon, feeling the same way he does towards her. We know this isn’t true, well at least that she is not really affectionate or that nice to him, I guess that Hollywood for you, a romance is every movie. Maybe they are trying to show a softer side to arya, but we'll see.
6. Galbortorix in the movie?
This really doesn’t bother me, but it is just something to point out. I guess maybe he was there to give orders, but I will be pissed if he fights or something or other.
7. What the… is Durza flying on?
I curious as to what on earth Durza is flying on. There is no indication that he was flying on anything when he fights Eragon, and in one of the new clips on shurtugal.com there is fight scene in which Eragon and Durza are fighting in the skies. (Clip five - Fight scene between Eragon and Saphira, and Durza astride his magical mount.)
That’s all I’ve pick up on so far from the trailers I’ve seen, but by all means ill still see the movie. But all of these little details and changes to the story have annoyed me little but it can't be helped. It's just a movie. I hope they just don’t screw up Eldest as I liked that book better. Anyway i look forward to see the movie, i bet there will be much to discuss then.
What are your thoughts?
Right... You listed most. You missed 2 point.
Farthen Dur. Supposed to be a mountain, not a canyon.
Saphira. Supposed to be absent during battle against Durza.
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Sauron wrote: My dad loved the movie, of course he hasn't read the book.
I hated that silly beast that Durza conjured up at the final battle.
I don't like that beast too.... Too much.. And the beast hasn't been mentioned in Eragon at all...
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I just looked up on IMDB, and in the trivia section in Eragon, it says that there are over 50 differences from the movie to the book plot. I found that humerous. But i loved the movie and can't wait to see it tomarrow.
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I wouldn't mind watching the movie again just to laugh my head off. By the end of it i probably will be crying with laughter lol.
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I know at the end of the movie I was so hyper, I was whispering to my friend as Eragon said goodbye to Arya "Now just watch them make out" and things like that rofl. People were giving us funny looks cause we kept on laughing quietly lol.
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I think the main reason it went wrong was b/c the mind set the people who made it were in. They wanted to make it 'unique'. This meant for example, no elf ears, no Urgal horns, Saphira's feathers etc. I think the main problem was that the people working on it were trying to make it into 'Their' movie rather than try to closely follow the book. There were also mentions of time limits and funding but I dont knwwo as to what extent they affected the movie.
I think I can safely say I was very disapointed though that may b just b/c im a fan but Ive asked several of my friends who (for some odd reason) havent read the book and they said the movie was ok but most of the dialogue was terrible e.g into the sky to win or die and basically all of Murtagh's lines.
Actaually talking of Murtagh, who terrible was his character handled? He hardly got any screen time and when they make the next movie his 'death' and betray isnt going to be very shocking b/c everyones just going to be like 'oh no that guy who really wanted to take Eragon to the Varden's dead. Oh well...' Don't you think?
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SIEGEMASTER wrote: The stupid black chikin that durza rides on is so retarted, this guy who helped with the game said it was a dragon!? That made me laugh.
that was meant to be a dragon i just thought it was smoke taking form of a flying thing
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Re: Eragon the movie - very inaccurate (i have lots of evide
Club Blub wrote: little one wrote: Eragon – the movie
Hi just to state for the record, this is just my opinion. i am in no way putting down the film and i am just state for reference changes made. Some may be good other not so, i will give my opinion once or twice but i am not saying the movie is bad, im just commenting on the clips and trailer i have seen. Anyway the movie comes out in 8 days in Australia and from the trailers I have seen, it looks okay.
I have seen 8 different trailers and about 12 various clips from the movie (most of which posted on shurtugal.com) and I have a few points I’d like to make:
1. Physical aspects changed
Arya: Eragon Hair and rounded ears.
Okay I’m sure that everyone has pointed out these physical aspects that are incorrect. The hair I don’t mind as I believe that the director was trying to distinguish her from Arwen (Lord of the Rings). But what is beyond me is that it is clearly stated and a known fact that elves have pointed ears!
Eragon: Blonde hair and blue gem in his sword
I don’t actually mind the whole changing of the hair colours as long as they are natural. But the blue gem (which looks like plastic) is not stated anywhere in the book as well as if they were going to give his sword a gem, it should have been red seeing his sword was once Morzan’s.
Brom: No beard
Well I love Jeremy Irons, fabulous actor. But would it kill them just to stick a beard on him. Apparently his beard is suppose to have a mind of it’s own when blowing in the wind. but it's not a big deal, i love jeremy irons!
Alijad: Brown armor
I read in a forum that Alijad armor is all wrong, he is suppose to have gold amour but in the movie fight scenes he has brown armor which looks simpler to leather. Not a big deal but is noted.
Roran: No beard, looks just like Eragon
I’ve seen a few pictures of Roran and his character is portrayed differently. The director his cast something that looks very very similar to Eragon (I guess he thought that they were meant to look the same because of their relation) anyway some people have said that roran has a beard? i don't know anyway he looks the same age if not younger than Eragon and I’m not sure if he is suppose to have brown hair or not, but in the movie he is blonde.
Kulls: Too human
In the big fight scenes, seen mostly to the end of the trailer, all the Kulls look pretty much like humans with painted lines and dots all over their faces. If you ask me, they just look lame.
There are many other physical features that are according to the book not accurate but these are the most noticeable. Overall Apart from Eragon’s sword, Arya’s ears and Brom’s beard (I don’t really mind) other than that they did a pretty good job.
2. Not green magic when teleporting the egg?
When Arya teleports the egg, which is in nearly every trailer. It states in the book that green magic illuminates the egg or something like that, but in the movie it’s looks more blue, could just be because the egg is blue. Not a big deal.
3. Arya’s identity revealed
In the Japanese Trailer, which is in English but with Japanese subtitles, there is a scene in which Eragon is walking through the woods and Arya talks to him. She says “I’m Arya, PRINCESS of Ellesmera”. I find this a let down as everyone who has read Eldest, or Eragon for that matter, knows that Eragon does not find out Arya is a princess till the second book. She never tells him, he finds out when they meet Queen Izlanzadi. Clip can be found on youtube.com or in the media section of shurtugal.com, goes for 2min 39sec
4. Arya not in self-induced state not covered in bruises. Scene with Durza.
I have seen the newest clip “Eragon VS Durza” posted on shurtugal.com and there is a big change in the story when Eragon goes to save Arya.
Firstly: Murtagh is not with him at the time. He may show up but in the book he enters the cell after Eragon and comments on Arya’s beauty.
Second: When he goes into the prison cell, Arya is lying down, not standing up in which we know (in the book) that she collapses and Eragon catches her. Not to mention in the clip Arya was awake and TALKS to Eragon and also knows his name. She says “Eragon she shouldn’t have come” etc… but as well all know he doesn’t find out her name until he reaches into her mind which is meant to be days after their escape.
Third: From what I have seen, in this clip we see her lying down on a stone block, she has no bruises, cuts, burns etc… on her. She doesn’t look mangled and she is breathing irregularly (which is not supposed to happen for a day or two). She is also suppose to have her arms covered, which I the movie she doesn’t, so that when Eragon accidentally pulls off one of her sleeves he says her cuts and scars.
Forth: Durza shows up behind Eragon in the cell and talks to him. This is not supposed to happen. Eragon and Murtagh are supposed to fight Durza on a completely different floor to my knowledge.
5. Arya’s personality in the movie, is she too nice?
Well in the new clip along with Eragon VS Durza, there is another clip called “Eragon and Arya” also found on shurtugal.com. This is the final scene between Eragon and Arya saying their farewell. If you ask me Arya is far too nice to Eragon, she is not really portrayed as the cold, withdrawn, pain and suffering Arya we all know from the books.
Also she smiles at Eragon after he tells he about how he believes legend go. We know that Arya doesn’t really smile. She also half-laughs in this scene, which once again we know that Eragon doesn’t believe elves laugh till he says her in the second book. Personality I think that the director is making it seem too much like Arya is affectionate towards Eragon, feeling the same way he does towards her. We know this isn’t true, well at least that she is not really affectionate or that nice to him, I guess that Hollywood for you, a romance is every movie. Maybe they are trying to show a softer side to arya, but we'll see.
6. Galbortorix in the movie?
This really doesn’t bother me, but it is just something to point out. I guess maybe he was there to give orders, but I will be pissed if he fights or something or other.
7. What the… is Durza flying on?
I curious as to what on earth Durza is flying on. There is no indication that he was flying on anything when he fights Eragon, and in one of the new clips on shurtugal.com there is fight scene in which Eragon and Durza are fighting in the skies. (Clip five - Fight scene between Eragon and Saphira, and Durza astride his magical mount.)
That’s all I’ve pick up on so far from the trailers I’ve seen, but by all means ill still see the movie. But all of these little details and changes to the story have annoyed me little but it can't be helped. It's just a movie. I hope they just don’t screw up Eldest as I liked that book better. Anyway i look forward to see the movie, i bet there will be much to discuss then.
What are your thoughts? Right... You listed most. You missed 2 point. Farthen Dur. Supposed to be a mountain, not a canyon. Saphira. Supposed to be absent during battle against Durza.
i agree, but i remember somewhere in the books that the gem is in the sword and it is red
but thats not too big of a deal
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The thing with ayra saying she was the princess bothered me too.. it made me think how or what eragon s reaction will be in the second movie when it gets here. Yet i stand by what i said before...Even though the movie didnt follow the book much it was still a good movie, and im looking foward for Eldest the movie
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The film is sooooo crap!!! they have ruined it... the hole thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i sat in the cinema n watched it n got so angry bcos they av ruined all chances of makin Eldest as Eragon stayed iv the Varden when in the book he goes to ellesmere, if he dnt go to ellesmere thn h's toasted b4 he even gets to fight Murtagh.... it drives me insane to think that CP actually aproved of the movie... i kno that they could not have done it exactly like the book but they could av at least explained it!!!!!!!!!!
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CP approved this.. this... can it really be called a movie?? more like a lump of crap, what the hell was he thinking?? all it needed was the scenes of Solembum, Roran + Katrina, The Twins and for Eragon to go to Elessmera and it would have been a great film, but as it is the film is totally disloyal to the book, and Eragon not going to Elessmera, well i suppose the director doesnt think its that bad does he, i mean, he only missed HALF OF THE SECOND BOOK OUT!
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well from what i've heard CP approve the second movie. If so they must have done something different like swear to folow the book this time or maybe something as simple as a new director...
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my friend and i think peter jackson(lord of the rings director) should redo eragon the movie
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I thought the movie was horrible. Things seemed to take place out of order or important events left out. You can't convince me that time was an issue because the Harry Potter movies, and LOTR were all much longer. I would rather have the longer movie without the crappy editing. The positive part of the length of this movie was that I didn't have to endure it as long.
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Yeah, that was suprising how short it was. I thought it would be like a 3 hour movie. Anyway the timing was off and everything was out of order. And the characters didn't seem to fit in place.
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Re: Eragon the movie - very inaccurate (i have lots of evidence)
I watched the movie and I am afraid that I was disgusted. I sat in the theatre and counted, and there were more then 49 mistakes. Granted that was a little while ago, but I distinctly remember the number that I memorized. The movie was worthless when compared to the book, and all it was for was for Hollywood to make an excuse and make money off of something that is a best seller. The new movie Twilight is a perfect example of that. All of the readers expect the movie to suck, but we see it anyway either out of habit or to see how much it sucks. I know that I intend to see it myself.
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Re: Eragon the movie - very inaccurate (i have lots of evidence)
Roran didn't have a beard when he left carvahall. He grew it in the spine while evading the razac.
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DragonAion
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Re: Eragon the movie - very inaccurate (i have lots of evidence)
dragon-rider wrote: Roran didn't have a beard when he left carvahall. He grew it in the spine while evading the razac. Not only that, but Roran and Eragon were brothers in the movie when they were really cousins who were as close as brothers. Hollywood loves mixing little parts of all of the books just to make it so that the watchers are getting two movies in one. _ _"
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Re: Eragon the movie - very inaccurate (i have lots of evidence)
well the movie **** but i think they said tat they were bros in the movie to show how csoe they were not if they were brothers literally...
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Re: Eragon the movie - very inaccurate (i have lots of evidence)
What i really hated about it was the fact that they essentially killed off half of the Storyline of Eldest by killing Brom so early on in the film...
EDIT: So much for Jeod...
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sid
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Re: Eragon the movie - very inaccurate (i have lots of evidence)
yup i agree.....there are soooo many more evidence to prove that the movie is sooooooooooooo inaccurate.....
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