One of the best children books I have ever read is getting a movie. I hope it stays true to the books, because it does deal with religion.

It's coming out in December and features actors (actresses) like Daniel Craig, Nicole Kidman, and Eva Green. So far the trailers look good.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/newline/thegoldencompass/

i'm sorry, I couldn't get through the first chapter. I just stopped. I thought it was REALLY boring.

In my experience of people reading the book, you can either read it or can't. The first book starts slow and picks up the pace. The second is fast paced at the very first chapter.

It's rather funny. Daniel Craig has already worked with Eva Green in Casino Royale, and is going to be with Nicole Kidman again in the remake of Invasion. I can't help thinking of James Bond when I see him though. I always thought Lord Arsiel would have more of a beard and the set seems a bit more modern then I imagined it.

i loved this book...i got it free from the library even tho id never read it b4...but it looked good and i loved iut...cant wait for the movie

i guess it looks ok , but i only seen the preview for it once i dont really remember what it was about other than some father maybe gives his daughter a compass and it does weird things

I realy want to read the book

My dad got the CD with the voice cast to listen to on our trip to Banff.... but that never happened.

i loved the books and the movie seems okay but i hoped they dnt change it too badly like they do normally.

oh, agreed. I have always been a fan of those books-made-for-movies, especially when it comes to fantasy. The Golden Compass is certainly going to follow the footsteps of other great fantasy movies, including the lord of the rings and the chronicles of narnia. I really can't wait for it's release.

when does it come out again?

it comes out 7th december .
Can't wait for this film!!

i havent read the book yet ,I'll definetly read the book before watching the movie

ive read the trilogy and really enjoyed them but ism not sure if i'll watch the movie.

The title confused me at first because i saw the trailor with all the same story features and names, but a different title, because in australia its called the northern lights

Darn US changing the titles. I think Golden Compass is better though since the others are also items. It brings a sense of unity.

i saw on here that some one said the golden compass deals with religion?? im sorry i dont remember your name. you are partly correct. i also tried to read the book and found it boring and making no sense. a friend of mine looked up the author and what they books are really about. she found out that the author is an atheist. (of course this is his personal choice) she also found out that at the end of his third book he has the children kill God. he also hates c.s. lewis and the chronicles of narnia and his entire point through the whole series is to show the "other" side of God. to try and prove that God doesnt exist. for those in here who are christian, i urge you not to take your children to this movie. i do the same for those in here who are not sure if they are christian or not. if you believe in God then i strongly urge you not to take any child to this movie.

this is not meant to start a "war". i am only saying what i found out and voicing my own opinion of the movie and books. if there are those who dont agree with me then thats fine. not everyone will agree on everything at the same time.

From what I heard the author is atheist and he was trying to get people to watch the movie and then read the books who apparently the books have tons of atheist stuff but thats just what i heard.

yeah well thats just what i heard

Valkrayie ~ you have a good point. and if the information i got came from someone i couldnt trust then i would diregard it. but it did come from someone i trust. i did try to read the book and just couldnt get into it. it just wasnt making any type of sense to me. but thats just view of it.

im reading the email she sent to me right now. she said that there was an article done on him in which they called him, "the most dangerous author in Britain. " Look it up for yourself and make your own decision.

like i said earlier, im not trying to change anyones mind. i was just passing information that i was given. i know how it is to have someone bash an author that you like. i enjoy reading all of the harry potter series. and yes i am a christian and dont argue that there is witchcraft in the books. as far as knowing if there were christian material in there as well i couldnt say.

but my view on those books is this. i am secure in my faith, in myself and in who my God is. i do not agree that these books should be made available to young children . i think that they are too impressionable. but again this is just my opinion and this is not intended to start any kind of battle.

i dont mean to hurt yours or anyones feelings. if i have then please forgive me. that wasnt my intention.

[color=#BF0080]Exactly. Thats the great thing about freedom. EVERYONE can express their personal belief. Not just one religion.

and yea, shutting up![ *zips lip*/color]

Keever McD ~ what all have you heard. like i said a friend of ours sent the email and i havent had time to check into it. can you send me a private message?? this way (in case it does) it doesnt offend anyone. i really appreciate it. thanks.

5 stars, very well put together... wasnt a big fan of the book but now i will finish the series... who cares if it has to do with something of religion or not... i go to watch the movie and have a good time.... valk is so right about this... They are for entertainment alone...

it acually folows the book almost perfectly... its the same director of lotr so you know itll be good... and it was ... truly amazing.

oo i wasnt gunna finsh the series at first, but a friends lending me the books

I saw the movie last weekend. (day after release) Just so that you know, they are taking all of the religious stuff out of the movies.

I thought that the movie was really good. It followed the book a lot better than I expected it would, and a lot better than the Harry Potter and Eragon movies. (A LOT better.)

I also own the books and read them a long time ago. They are written well, and the story is interesting, but I thought that the whole killing God in the ending thing was really weird. It was just kind of pointless, really, in my opinion.

There is one thing about the books that I absolutely despise and have a huge amount of contempt for. It said that only humans and the one rolling around race of alien things were sentient, and that no animals were actually conscious of themselves! This wouldn't have affected me so much, but it made one of my best friends believe it too, for a while. I think I am convincing her otherwise, though, with examples of dolphin intelligence. (I love dolphins.) Also, I think that reading these books and the Ann Rice Vampire Chronicles helped to turn her into an atheist. That's not a bad thing, but she seems sadder and more hopeless now, so it's kind of depressing.

Anyway, I'm getting off topic. I really liked the movie, and I think the books are okay, though I would recommend them to an older audience. (They can be very complicated and some of the ideas expressed are a bit beyond most young children's minds.)

Saw the movie as well. I give it 5 stars. Really well put together, high budget put to perfect use. Nicole Kidman was absolutely superb, along with Dakota Blue Richards, who played Lyra. Sir Ian McKellen did an amazing job voicing Iorek. The best fantasy film I have ever seen since Lord of the Rings. And, even better, the religious symbols are almost completely covered up, so there is barely any religious arguement.

Oh, and Peter Jackson did not direct it. It was made by the same studio though.

I saw the movie and i thought it was good. The only thing i noticed that had anything to deal with religion was that they were called demonds but other than that i didn't notice anything. I like Lyre's demond thing i thought he was a cool character i can't remember is name though. I like the weird characters usually but oh well. What i don't get is how people are offended by things like that its finction and the last time i checked fiction ment it isn't real.

first its spelled deamon, and his name is lorek ... this movie was excellent... i cant wait for the subtle knife to come out lol... a def must see

I think its pathic. Do you know why the author wrote the book?
Figure that out...

yes... but who says you have to belive what he writes... i read his books and watch the movie for pure entertainmeant... nothing more

I though it was a great movie and i might get the book. What i don't get is why people believe things like that i mean its fiction its not real.

ok... really bad example.... how can i say this. . i went to see the movie and read the books for the the storyline itself, not cuase it had anyhting thing to do with teaching or religion... why i say you gave a bad example is if the book was just about so guy killing people who arnt white... why would i read that... theres nothing more to the story, there would have to be a story to it( not being racist or anything...)?? what im getting at is theres more to the golden compass than just religion. and like i said before, you dont have to belive in anything he writes about religion... just sit, relax,and enjoy the accual movie....

well i guess alot of people take the book and movie to offense of there religion... but im with you... you go to watch the movie... nothing more

I didn't mean you had to like it i ment why would you think it is real. If i read a book like that i wouldn't like it but it wouldn't mean i believe people of other races are evil. I was only saying why would you believe it. I'm not casist so i wouldn't read a book like that and iwould be against it.

oops stupid computer i accidently deleted my old post lol

but dark, if there wasa book you heard was really good, but there was a little about racism in the story, but racism wasnt the whole point of the book, would you read it?

It depends if it had the n word (or any other word that is raceist) and it kept refuring back to it probably not. I'd probably read it but it depends, have you Watched Uncle Toms Cabin i watched it in school its about a slave who was killed because he wouldn't give in to the slave breaker. White people at that time said it was racist but i wouldn't think it was so i would probably read it if one of my friends had it. What about you, would you?

i would if racism wasnt the whole topic of the book, if there was more to it, then definatly... anything book i hear is good im usually willing to read...

Ok i can see that. What are the names of the other two books of the trilogy and are they out yet?

yea there out.. nut theres like a continuation of the story coming out soon... called something like the book of dust..., anyway the second book is called the subtle knife, and the third is the amber spyglass i believe...

i kinda just clarified my point in my last 2 posts.... and even dark dragon aggreed to it, if racism wasnt the whole topic of the book, if there was more to it,... which what is exactly happening here with the golden compass... there is more to it then just religion....

i have heard that too, but.. well im not gunna argue with you guys anymore, all that i was saying is that you can read these books and watch the movie without having to take in anything the author/ director belives... and just to let you in on something... in the movie, its rated pg... you really think they would throw somthing in there about killing god... i dont think so... not doubting your article or anyhting, cuase i know pullman is an atheist, but so far out of the first and second books, without reading an article on it myself till the movie came out, i would have never thought of the books stating anything like this... and even then, there are little bits of views to this... not much at all, proving my point... theres more to the books than just the authors views...

I see nothing wrong with reading them or watching the movie. But the fact that he wrote them to spite something is soooo stuiped.
You dont write books to spite something you write them to prove a point...
I actually encorage reading books that differ from your opinion. This helps you to see from different view points and makes your opinion more worth while. People wont listen to you if you know nothing about others peoples opinions or wont listen to there own opinion.
You can also argue your point better if you know more about what your facing.
Understanding is what makes people wise.

I just saw it along with 2 other movies in a row. It was good but DAMN...that cliffhanger has me bouncing.

And for those who are wondering about the Athiestism in it: Dust= sin, Daemon = soul =overall> dust is sin that moves into body thro soul

which is complete BS. keep godism out of good movies...though I want to see the next ones..i want this all sorted out hehe

Valkrayie

I did not read the book(s). I do not care, I already knew what was the whole story, I just didn't want to waste time with the whole story. I wasn't bringing God argument crap into this, Thank you VERY much

and as said in my tag, I go by DRAKEN now, that title is old and hated

Yes because one: that old title is bad memories and; two, and an answer for the end of your comment,: it seemed you were so please next time, don't think anyone doesn't know everything...to advoid something you don't like, for me: god, you have to know it and things around it.

Another reason, though not having to do this, though it seems you don't mind other people's mind as you put your own in: I am angry enough at my family, espeically my brother.

end of all this, no more comments to counter act me PLEASE, because I am not afraid to lose this account on swearing and etc.

Goooooooood.....muhahhahaha...



...ha..

>.>
*flys off*

We're all one big happy family

I think that there is no right answer and that people can choose what to believe or not

Of course, that kind of reasoning gets tricky when one is talking about the younger audience that this is meant for. I see why people are angry because they don't want kids to be influenced, but people are allowed to write stories about pretty much anything. I guess parents could speak to their kids about this book if it bothers them....

Ah, it is too complicated, I think i'll stop before someone attacks me.

I agree but there's a bigger point and fact...

The kids don't know! Even if they COULD figure it out they wouldn't CARE! it's a blasted movie ment for entertainment. Go ahead and the man make a god hating movie, he's jsut expressioning himself in a clever but stupid way.

lol you guys are getting into the religion stuff in the movie and books that you never even really disscussed if the movie was good bad, what you liked about it etc....

Boo hoo we all said it was good to some point, there..

Now on to God!

*watches everyone leave*

lol, i know you all said a little bit about it, but... lol i just thought the arguing so much about it... well w/e lol

yea, the subtle knife is a must see for me at least... , im really intrested to see how there gunna show hopping worlds

Um...true it was bad for the religion but we DO butcher God. PLUS...i DOUBT kids will see that point, they wont care...if this fact didnt get out we wouldnt know or see it or care.

The ironic thing is, is that most people wouldn't care-myself included-if it weren't for the children.

I don't care....sometimes not knowing is good! If they knew it would upset them or they still wouldn't care! And if you don't like it, don't bother reading/seeing the rest! Its a MOVIE for KIDS imagination. This is things that help people become what they like. As for me, I'm more Agnostic and Don't really care. The guy made something that signals his "religion" Let him do that, its his stuff. The kids like it because its something that gives them ideas for their childhood. And so what if they "change." its their life and people are trying to convert others alllll the time, all's fair. So just drop the hurt over a dumb movie ment for entertainment, not religious debate.

I know I know..but I was making the orginal thing as a small joke cause everyone thinks its such a terrible thing it annoys me....

but anyways..

so annnnnnnyways >.> lol

xD I gave up on trying to get up there..nothing speical, no one treats you better, I'm a Dragonic and thats that

Yea. I'm sure if I read the book it would follow better than Eragons did xD

It was awesome when the bear got his jaw ripped off though lol. I jumped up and was like YEA BOI! and then thought This is SOOO not a kids movie XD

Yeah, I was surprised at that, too! LOL! I had heard that it was in there, but actually seeing it gave me chills.

Yea I thought that too...it was actually seemed a bit shorter than Eragon

It wasn't, though. Eragon was 1 hr. 45 min. long, where as The Golden Compass was about 1 hr. 58 min. long. The director said that he had always planned to cut the movie around 2 hrs. Some scenes were a bit rushed, but they nearly had to make it short so as to not bore the audience. Trust me, if it had been 2 hrs. 30 mins. like most fantasy movies, it would have been boring. So I suppose they did it just right.

Yea your probably right...I DID think they rushed a few scenes and were blunt at parts.

Probably, the scene that I felt was rushed a little too much was when they bring Billy Costa back to the camp. It doesn't ever show him dying, I think. All that is done is his mother comes to him and says something like "We'll get your Ratters back!"

Another thing that I was disappointed in was the religion... LOL! Just kidding! No, another thing that I was disappointed at was when they decided not to leave in those last three chapters. For those of you who don't know, there were actually supposed to be scenes from three other chapters in the book on the movie. But, the director decided to cut those scenes and save them for the sequel, The Subtle Knife. Those scenes were my favorite scenes from the book and I really wanted to see them.