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Post Ellesmere's trees marching out?
I just thought about it.
Couldn't the trees of Ellesmere march out and fight, much like the fight in the movie Prince Caspian?

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
No. We have evidence of only one moving tree in all the books and that is because it is not just a tree but a tree and elf combined remember the elf sang herself into the tree.

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
well, why doesnt the Menoa tree march out?

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
Because it's power lies in being in control of the forest and being in touch with thousands of trees who couldn't help her hundreds of miles away also when I said move I didn't say get up and dance I meant movement of branches and small roots the Menoa tree probably can't 'walk' as it would die without the nutrients from the soil. Also why would it want to leave it's forest. the forest is the only thing the Menoa tree cares about.

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
because galbatorix trys to take control of the forest, destroys most of it, not the Menoa tree though. The the Menoa tree is super pissed.
Plus she most likely can store her energy like a human (because she is one!) and use it to support her

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
1. She is an elf
2. Why would Galby waste energy destroying a forest when his people could use it as wood.
3. No evidence on Menoa tree being able to walk.
4. In this scenario what has happened to Eragon, the elves, the dwarves, Saphira and the Varden.
5. Galby almost never leaves Uru'baen why would he now.

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my bad about the human part.

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
these are trees not ents

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July 10th, 2009, 9:56 am Profile
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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
ya so i dont think its possible their trees for cryin out load

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July 26th, 2009, 11:41 pm Profile
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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
No it's no possible for reasons stated above. Please only post if you actually have something to say. Btw I think the mods count saying "thank you" as spamming. Also use proper grammar it should be they're not their as the trees don't belong to nothing.

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
ok so is there anything else to say on this topic or is it over?

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
This is how a topic works.
1. People look it at it and might have something meaningful to contribute and respond if they don't they just move onto the next topic with posting useless gibba gabba that only annoys other people. This post is actually a fairly bad post as it ADDS nothing to the topic. Note: YOU DO NOT HAVE TO POST IN EVERY TOPIC NOR DO YOU HAVE TO RESPOND TO EVERY REPLY IF YOUR RESPONSE IS GOING TO BE "THANK YOU" DON'T BOTHER.
2. Eventually most of the active users will look at the topic.
3. When no-one has anything useful left to say the topic dies ie:there are no new posts for months. Mods don't have time to close every topic instead the rely on people not revive topics which are dead unless it is for a very good reason...

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
ok sorry but i have nothing more to say here.

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
gee you two must have some sort of feud going on.....I think it's perfectly possible for the trees to march out. It IS alagaesia after all. The menoa tree could be like the general of the all the trees in ellesmera. Or couldn't an elf just sing the trees into fighting.....like command-singing them.......anyone know what i mean? I think the trees will be more than willing since it's to fight Galby.


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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
IE96: you do realize with the post you made after my last post you still managed to ignore those simple rules.
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People on the forum don't need to have you tell them you have nothing left to say simply don't post anything they will know you have nothing left to say.

Brom 1: Plants do have consciousness but cannot actively move themselves one way to get the trees to move would be to provide the energy and move them using magic but if someone had access to that much power why not just challenge Galby directly. Or an elf could sing themselves into each tree but this idea is just silly especially considering we don't even know if the menoa tree can walk. Remember it took several minutes for the menoa tree to give Eragon the brightsteel after it had decided to give it to him.

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
ok ill join back in.
On topic:I think i get the idea of what Brom1 is talking about because in one of the books brisingr i think someone said they make their houses by singing the trees into the shape of a home and they sing to the trees during the agatai blohdren (sorry if i spelled it wrong but it means blood-oath celebration) so maybe they could sing the trees into battle but it would take a long time for the trees to move.

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
They sing these items into shape however they have to provide the energy for the change themselves...

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
you dont HAVE to use your own energy. You could use the energy of living organisms. The trees (living organisms) are perfectly willing to give up some of their energy for a good cause...like fighting the most evil person in alagaesia a.k.a. galby


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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
you dont really need to say a.k.a its kinda obvious and it might be possible it seems like something CP would do.

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
How much energy do you think it takes to change the nature of the tree you have to give the tree muscles and a constant supply of water without it being stuck in the ground. You have to change the consciousness of the tree Eragon remarks during his training that the consciousness of plants deal with world differently while they still sense things their thoughts move at a slower pace and they care less about animals moving about and more about rain and sunshine. Communicating with trees would also be a problem considering none of them speak any language recognizable to any animal in alagaesia. Also the trees are huge and trees release energy much more slowly than animals do so it would take quite some time for them to gather for them to move and possibly years for them to move hundreds of miles.

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
ok yes but i dont really know what to think now since there is evidence that makes sense to me on both sides of this topic

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Post Re: Ellesmere's trees marching out?
*cracks knuckles* It has been a while since my visits.


Paolini has borrowed so much from Tolkien, why would you immediately rule out CP using ents? CP could just make a hybrid-ent; the Menoa tree.

It takes mintues for the Menoa tree to retrieve the brightsteel because it is searching beneath its ground. It does not have eyes, and you cannot just feel for brightsteel - you literally have to grab it to locate it, and the Menoa tree's domain is large.

Menoa tree can move, and can move quickly with force (as she grabs and holds Saphira). What is to say she cannot walk on her own accord? Speed does not matter when walking - it certainly does not matter how fast the ents move, they certainly get their jobs accomplished with minimal harm done to them. I like to think of the Menoa tree as a representative of Nature. Sure, she likes Du Weldevarden most, but she is a master of trees everywhere. I think she may leave her spot, but she will not venture out of her region. She may protect her forest much like (I cannot remember his name, but the guardian of the city).

I do not believe all the tree can move, but the Menoa is an exception. I'm sure we will be seeing her fight in Inheritance.

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