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Post x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
Idk about you guys, but I think that the x-box 360 is just a knockoff/mixture off what sony and nintendo had been doing for awhile. My reasons?: despite microsoft was a computer company, and they might've made some video games, they apparently wanted to make a console of thier own and instead of making a unique controller like the other companies have done, they've decided to combine both the controller elements of the ps2 and gamecube. Notice that they use the Y,B,A, and X buttons from the gamecube, but made them color cordenated like the ps2? They also placed the control sticks in the same position as the gamecube's controller, and got the r1/2 and l1/2 like the ps2 except caliing them "right bumper" ect. The only difference between the xbox and ps2 was that the xbox came later and was originally more beautiful than the ps2 but the ps2 caught up.

what do you guys think?

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
My views:

1.Original Xbox was a flop. It was better than GC, but PS2 owned it.

2.What's wrong with combining the best elements of both controllers? Combining the stick setup, the button layout/design and the overall pad shape, it's brilliant and ergonomic, way better than the uncomfortable PS3 controller.

3. IMO the Xbox 360 has the best game range, usability, online use (play, shopping and netwoking) and overall value for money out of the 3 next gens. PS3 is by far the worst, with it's ugly looks, massive heat output, terrible online, weak game range, bad online play (and everything else in general linked to online), and Wii is nowhere NEAR as bad as people make out.

4. I like chocolate milk.

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
O.o the online play for the ps3 doesn't suck (albiet, I'll let you know, I agree that the controller is a bit stiff and small for my oversized hands...). My only issue with the ps3 online network is that they prefer to use a system similar to texting instead of a keyboard for chatting. Other than that, it's fine with me, and with the call of duty games and littlebigplanet both being good games, the ps3 is doing quite well. The wii...well...I'm not saying it's bad, but despite being in there for a couple of years, no game has actually incorporated the controls in a good way (and no, I'm not a sony/ps3 fanboy, I actually love nintendo, I'm just saying my opinion) . Also, the xbox is not entirely good with it's online options sinse you have to pay >.>

is that good to counteract about the online thing?

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
Well Xbox Live is undeniably better than PSN. Paying for it goes towards making it so brilliant :) And it's hardly expensive. £40 a year? I think it's worth it.


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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
I have to agree, I have no problem paying 50 dollars a year for xbox live service. I have a PS3 and a 360...I can't even describe how much better online play for the 360 is. Gamertags are amazing...everything about them makes online play an amazing experience.

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
I have a 360 and i think it is amazin'! And i think the online play/community in xbox live is really good. I have a wii and i dont like it so much. the online is terrible on the wii. all you can do is download ********** and play against a random person.

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
if xbox is a knockoff of playstation then playstation is a knockoff of nintendo which is a knockoff of sega :P haha and you listed call of duty and littlebigplanet but call of duty is also on xbox 360..
and there is no denying xbox live is the best online experience right now..playstation did soemthing good with playstation home but microsoft did something even better with the new dashboard and avatars..and also wii does have some titles that use the controller good: zelda: twilight princess and super mario galaxy are 2 of many.

games on xbox 360 until now were better than anything on playstation or wii but ill admit 2009 looks to be ps3s year... all im looking forward too this year as of now is halo wars, skate 2, call of duty modern warfare 2, bioshock 2 and hopefully alan wake? and 3 of those titles are going to ps3...but microsoft always has some surprises up their sleeves like final fantasy XIII coming to xbox 360 :p


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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
PS3 Came out after Xbox 360...i'm thinking that a lot of the processing ideas to handle next gen graphics could have been stolen from Microsoft :p uh oh

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
Glaedr94 wrote:
if xbox is a knockoff of playstation then playstation is a knockoff of nintendo which is a knockoff of sega :P haha and you listed call of duty and littlebigplanet but call of duty is also on xbox 360..
but microsoft always has some surprises up their sleeves like final fantasy XIII coming to xbox 360 :p


rofl, but still, it's just my opinion. I think that the only current "next gen" call of duty game that went multiplatform was world at war, but then again, I haven't done that much research so :p

Still, littlebigplanet does add alot to the playstation network, mainly sinse you can share content and stuff, and some levels that have come out are already genuis.

As for FFXIII, I figured it was a matter of time before microsoft got their hands on the FF series.... Plus, I expected it because most of the "american gamers" have an xbox 360 and square needed the extra revenue (but after they made TWEWY, I seriously wondered why they don't have a lot of money).

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
call of duty 2 until world at war was on xbox 360

and yea littlebigplanet is insanely amazing, that and metal gear solid 4 are the only reasons i want a ps3...oh ya and bluray but we dont even really need that cus we have netflix :)


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Bleh, I forgot to address this:
Death_to_Varden wrote:
PS3 Came out after Xbox 360...i'm thinking that a lot of the processing ideas to handle next gen graphics could have been stolen from Microsoft :p uh oh

:lol: :lol:


Yeah, but the original PS was waaaaaaaaaaaay before xbox. Still though guys, you can't really say that the ps3 has "bad game range" since it's still fairly new.

and for glaedr; they recently added a couple of good games from xbox the ported for ps3 like eternal sonata. Still though, I will admit that there haven't been alot of good ps3 exclusive games...

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eternal sonata is a good game? >_> since when?


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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
i must agreewith neku....the ps3 is MUCH better....

xbox can have good graphics but ps3 graphics are equally good. same 1080 max capacity of full HD.

yes the xbox360 may have much more memory but it aint got the neccessary hardware lol

xbox doesnt have blu-ray! i mean gosh!
i know the debate can go on forever but, i have to say, ps3 is the best


lol i know this was off-topic but i had to make my point clear lol

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so ps3 is better cus of bluray? and what do u mean xbox doesnt have the necessary hardware?

and imo netflix is better then bluray..


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lol i meant, that this debate can go on forever lol

so i guess i should leave lol

just a little info by me :)

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
Glaedr94 wrote:
eternal sonata is a good game? >_> since when?


well, I happen to like it. Plus, it does help provide insight into chopin's life...and while it's turn based, they make it in such a way that it doesn't feel like turn based. However, I will admit that it has way too many cutscenes for it's own good >.<

either ways, I'm not saying the xbox isn't BAD, I'm just saying that microsoft had orginally ripped off other systems prior to it's realease.

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Well, Nintendo has gone through a series of type of controls. It could have just happend to be the Gamecubes controller. Playstation has kept the same style all the time though. Even for PS3, just have to look for them. Don't need those big controllers for the PS3.

I don't have a PS3 or Xbox360. But, PS3 has just come out, so you can't exactly say anything about the game-range for it yet. It still has to catch up.

And what in this world is TWEWY? :shock:

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TWEWY stands for The World Ends With You, it's game for the Nintendo DS ;)

The base storyline from Wikipedia: "In the game, Neku Sakuraba and his allies are forced to participate in a game that will determine their fate. The battle system uses many of the unique features of the Nintendo DS, including combat that takes place on both screens, and attacks performed by certain motions on the touchscreen or by shouting into the microphone. Elements of Japanese youth culture, such as fashion, food, and cell phones, are key aspects of the missions.

The World Ends with You received positive reviews, which praised the graphics, soundtrack, and integration of gameplay into the Shibuya setting. The few common complaints were related to the steep learning curve of the battle system as well as the imprecise touch-screen controls. In the week of its release, the game was the second best-selling DS title in Japan, and the top selling DS title in the US.
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darn it wolverine...you beat me to the post >.<

but yeah, TWEWY is pretty much the most innovative game on the DS so far, using both screens and stuff, plus the plot is kinda refreshing with it's modern setting. It was game of the year for DS on ign, nominated best rpg of 2008 on x-play, nominated for best design on ign, nominated for best sound design on ign, ect, along with multiple other stuff. The fact that you could also change difficulty freely through the game was innovative along with it's "fashion" system that did affect combat. It's, to me, one of the best games none of the mainstreamers will ever know about, like persona.

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
Admittedly, the Xbox does borrow a lot from various systems. But it has by far the best Online support, even the original box was far better than the PS2. And in general improved on all systems.

The PS3 isn't that new, its still several years old. Its online isn't as good or comprehensive as LIVE. It has pretty much terrible game selection as far as exclusives, and really, blu-ray. Not that big of a deal--you're buying it for the console, not a media player. Which the 360 is. (We have netflix now).

Little Big Planet is a freaking joke.

The 360 has solid online support, with lots of customization, downloadable content, and a better game line up as far as exclusives go--Halo CE, 2, and 3, Gears 1 and 2, Too Human and its sequels, Republic Commando (original Xbox and PC only), exclusive content for GTA4 (take that Sony, you should have paid Rockstar to make the content multi-platform, or even exclusive). And Microsoft is making games previously PS exclusive multiplatform, like Final Fantasy.

"But you get the Red Ring, and have to pay for online". Seriously, its around 4 dollars a month, and they fix the Red Ring. For free.

I'm not a Microsoft fanboy--I've owned a Gamecube, a PS2, and now a 360. And I love my 360.

And don't get me started on the Wii. Its fine for young kids, old people, and very casual gamers. Its great for parties and people who don't game. But for a remotely hardcore gamer....no. As serious gamer, it seems a joke. And it can't play DVD's, something thats been around for years.

In conclusion-- PS3=Paperweight.


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Admittedly, the Xbox does borrow a lot from various systems. But it has by far the best Online support, even the original box was far better than the PS2. And in general improved on all systems.

The PS3 isn't that new, its still several years old. Its online isn't as good or comprehensive as LIVE. It has pretty much terrible game selection as far as exclusives, and really, blu-ray. Not that big of a deal--you're buying it for the console, not a media player. Which the 360 is. (We have netflix now).

Little Big Planet is a freaking joke.

The 360 has solid online support, with lots of customization, downloadable content, and a better game line up as far as exclusives go--Halo CE, 2, and 3, Gears 1 and 2, Too Human and its sequels, RepublicCommando(original Xbox and PC only), exclusive content for GTA4 (take that Sony, you should have paid Rockstar to make the content multi-platform, or even exclusive). And Microsoft is making games previously PS exclusive multiplatform, like Final Fantasy.

"But you get the Red Ring, and have to pay for online". Seriously, its around 4 dollars a month, and they fix the Red Ring. For free.

I'm not a Microsoft fanboy--I've owned a Gamecube, a PS2, and now a 360. And I love my 360.

And don't get me started on the Wii. Its fine for young kids, old people, and very casual gamers. Its great for parties and people who don't game. But for a remotely hardcore gamer....no. As serious gamer, it seems a joke. And it can't play DVD's, something thats been around for years.

In conclusion-- PS3=Paperweight.


Well, several years would mean 7 years ago. Dating back to 2002. Xbox gets all the goodies because it's from a major corporation, Microsoft. Sony is not as big as Microsoft. Even Xbox has watered down games though. Also, remember that Sony did not base Playstation for online ability like Microsoft did for Xbox.

Might want to define a bit about hardcore and serious gamers. About 4 dollars a month can be a lot to someone if you add it up.

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I guess it was a bit vague. And by hardcore/serious, I was referring to people who play games a little more seriously, not willingness to spend money.

I guess the subscription might be important if you don't care about gaming online, and you're right, it can be a bit, but if you have a system, you either have a bit of extra money or generous family members. I just ask for a subscription for Christmas.

By serious/hardcore I meant people who play games like Halo 3, COD series, MGS4, Resistance 2, deep RPGs, etc. Games that require and reward skill and time invested. Frequently "M" games, because a casual gamer isn't likely to be playing a "M" game.

And basing Xbox for online play is a reason I respect the system--they made it popular, the "bar" people had to match. Online gaming is VERY fun, more so than bots.

And Sony's pretty big--the PS2 was HUGE sucess, and a good "in between" system. Good serious and casual games alike.


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I agree with you that online gameing is fun. If I had an Xbox260, I probably would end up suscribing though, honestly.lol. Not all M games are the good ones. There's even T games that are epic as well, such as the Battlefield series. Mainly for PC, but it's very fun on the consoles, even though they are watered down, as well.

Sony is a pretty big company, but not as big as Microsoft.

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ya dude u probaly would subscribe :P ull soon realize xbox is boring without it


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Kerstov wrote:
I agree with you that online gameing is fun. If I had an Xbox260, I probably would end up suscribing though, honestly.lol. Not all M games are the good ones. There's even T games that are epic as well, such as the Battlefield series. Mainly for PC, but it's very fun on the consoles, even though they are watered down, as well.

Sony is a pretty big company, but not as big as Microsoft.


No, but they have no shortage of funds. If they wanted to keep or acquire exclusives, they could. Better for their image.

No, not all M games are best. I love Too Human, which is T, and TFU, though short and not very replayable, was also fun. And there are plenty of awful (quality, and values) M games. But they're more "serious" games.


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yeah, but as glaedr has pointed out, your entire argument seems to be based on online service. For people who unfortunately can't access the internet through thier system like me, it sounds like it'd bring down the x-box down alot. Besides, from my current knowledge of games, it seems that the xbox is made more for shooters while the ps3 is more all around. Besides, as for the thing about exclusive content, there are games that they've added more content than on the xbox 360 version such as eternal sonata. Also, I would like to point out that your definition of hard-core games isn't that good...almost more than 1mil ppl play halo 3 and unless you'd like to say that everyone in that croud is hardcore (which they're not, I've seen uber noobs who can barely figure out whats the difference between the left and right bumper), then you need to revise that list O.o. I personally think that hard core gamers and the ones who play games that are extremely good that most ppl don't know about like No More Heroes or the Shin Megami franchise.

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
Despite what has been said, I have to say 360 is better.

Yea growing up I did have a PS2, had alot of good times. But as soon as Xbox came out...it was all the rage. Better hardware, exclusive games(I'd like to point out that xbox isnt all just shooters either, plently of other games that are quite fun.), and the first console to revolutionize online play on a console.

As for the 360, again, pretty much all-around better. And yes, the 360 did come out first...(The orginal xbox did come out later and did maybe use some similar things from the PS2, but vastly improved.)
I did rent a ps3 once just to try it out, it was just horrible. Even the PS2 I thought was better. As for Blu-Ray, it in no way makes the PS3 any better than the 360. Sony just wanted to build their own disk drive to put them on the spot. Honestly when I compared the two, there was hardly ANY difference.
I'm almost glad they charge for online play, that's what makes it so successful. I mean how can you make something better if there is no profit? I mean seriously, I pay $8 for one month, thats nothing! The online gameplay for the 360 is just simply awesome.

So in conclusion, the 360 dominates the console world. Nuff said.

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yeah, but as glaedr has pointed out, your entire argument seems to be based on online service. For people who unfortunately can't access the internet through thier system like me, it sounds like it'd bring down the x-box down alot. Besides, from my current knowledge of games, it seems that the xbox is made more for shooters while the ps3 is more all around. Besides, as for the thing about exclusive content, there are games that they've added more content than on the xbox 360 version such as eternal sonata. Also, I would like to point out that your definition of hard-core games isn't that good...almost more than 1mil ppl play halo 3 and unless you'd like to say that everyone in that croud is hardcore (which they're not, I've seen uber noobs who can barely figure out whats the difference between the left and right bumper), then you need to revise that list O.o. I personally think that hard core gamers and the ones who play games that are extremely good that most ppl don't know about like No More Heroes or the Shin Megami franchise.


As said above, it has a number of non-shooter games. Too Human is incredible, and is exclusive, and is 3rd person action RPG, and is incredible. Yes, but there will be noobs in everygame. Halo 3 is hardly the only one. And Halo has less people currently playing than, say, COD, but overall sales are over 10 million, I believe.

Xbox does center around LIVE, but has plenty of games that you can play offline and have a ton of fun with. Too Human again a example. I've played around 85 hours, and maybe 2 of those are online. Halo 3 I've also played a lot of Campaign, offline. And COD4. And Gears of War I don't even play online.

And I agree with everything Daidrea said--I too had a PS2, enjoyed it alot, then got a 360, and love it.

PS3 is fine for multiplatform. But at online service and exclusives is where the 360 shines. So if you want a Blu-ray, get a PS3. Blu-ray isn't that useful, because DVD is fine, but PS3 does have some good exclusives. Killzone is probably fun.

But if you would only play multiplatform games, the 360 is cheaper.


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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
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Yes, but there will be noobs in everygame.


yeah, I know, just pointing out that it should'nt really be far to call halo 3 a "hardcore game" .

anyways, yeah, I can't really argue with those things. Still, I'm anticipating this year cause it seems most of the good stuff is for ps3 or is multiplatform with ps3.

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
Oh, it still is. If you go into Social Slayer, you get lots of noobs. But once you get higher skill levels, and move into playslists like SWAT and MLG, you get much better opponents.

Its as hardcore as any shooter, if you play seriously. But you don't have to.

I'm not looking forward to much. Hoping for Too Human DLC or sequel, know we're getting H3: ODST, and Halo Wars.


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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
Ive played the Halo Wars Demo, LOADS of fun. I already got it reserved.
ODST looks interesting but I wonder if it will even life up to the other halos...since this one is anoter first person shooter.

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Post Re: x-box/x-box360= knockoff?
Oh, I think it will. Its a Bungie game--it'll be solid. And it'll be rather different from the others, which will mix things up to make things more interesting. Being an ODST will make things a whole lot more interesting, stealthier, and what not.

I'm pre-ordering it, for sure.

And yeah, demo is awesome. Plus, the Limited Edition has the Mythic Map Pack looks AMAZING.


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