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Fathskie
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Who/What is Eragon most care for?
Ok we're going to get into Eragon's thoughts now.
Who or What is Eragon really care most as his first priority ??
You know this can affects his decisions, his adventures, and his future! With understanding this we can analyze the possibility of "can Eragon turned bad" or "would he betray someone for something" or "would he turned down this for that" etc etc
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I'MNOTCRAZY
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He said it himself: he was doing everything for the people who were, are, and will be hurt by Galby, so it is his top priority.
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AnnieBee
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I disagree. I believe his first love and concern is Saphira. The fact that he has a good heart and cares for others does not take away anything from him. On the contrary, it makes him a better person.
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Lethrblakahunter
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[quote="AnnieBee"][color=cyan]I disagree. I believe his first love and concern is Saphira. The fact that he has a good heart and cares for others does not take away anything from him. On the contrary, it makes him a better person.[/color][/quote]
I totally agree wid u..its Saphira..den comes Arya n den d world n defeating Galbatorix and so on..he actually loves Arya too much bt still Saphira is more dan Eragon's soul-mate she s a part of his soul itslf..n as far as people r concernd i feel he knows his duty n knows dat as a dragon rider he has to b like dat..yes he loves helping dem bt i still think saphira n arya come before, saphira coming first
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AnnieBee
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Poor kid, 16 and all these life changing things going on!
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Firetongue
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I'm surprised this question was even asked! Saphira of course! It's like she's part of him.
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AnnieBee
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LOL! It seems some members think Ayra is his number love!
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Scarecrow
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It should be about Defeating Galbatorix. That's his number one priority right now.
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October 8th, 2006, 4:48 pm |
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AnnieBee
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I still think Saphira is his first love and concern. The rest is a matter of priority. And I feel his second priority should be getting Rid of Galbatorix. Loving Ayra can either help or hinder him. It can go any way. So let that be done after Galbatorix is dead.
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Firetongue
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Well, think about it Scarecrow, if Eragon had to give up saphira to defeat Galby, would he do it? No!
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October 8th, 2006, 4:57 pm |
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Scarecrow
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Well taking care of Saphira and defeating Galby are both important right now.
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October 8th, 2006, 5:08 pm |
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AnnieBee
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And just now, according to the excerpt of the 3rd book, Saphira is hurt. And without Saphira he cannot even fathom to triumph over Galbatorix.
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October 8th, 2006, 5:24 pm |
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Scarecrow
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No because aren't draagons the most powerful weapon a rider has?
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October 8th, 2006, 5:31 pm |
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AnnieBee
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Sorry, couldn't understand the reasoning.
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Scarecrow
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I was saying that I agree because aren't dragons the most powerful weapon a rider can have?
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October 8th, 2006, 5:47 pm |
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AnnieBee
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I really do not know how to view that. I don't see dragons as a weapon, however I see the bond between dragon and rider as a powerful one.
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October 8th, 2006, 6:27 pm |
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Eragon The Last Rider
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his first priority is saphira.because if saphira dies or something he would probally die to.like it is said in the book a rider rarely lives if his/her dragon dies
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October 8th, 2006, 6:40 pm |
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AnnieBee
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LOL! That's exactly my view on the matter!
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October 8th, 2006, 6:59 pm |
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Scarecrow
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That's right it's if the dragon dies the rider dies, I thought it was the other way around.
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October 9th, 2006, 12:36 am |
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AnnieBee
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I respect your opinion Scare. I have just one question, How did Brom survive the death of his Sahpira?
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Scarecrow
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I know, I got that wrong, I'm sorry.
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October 11th, 2006, 12:06 am |
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AnnieBee
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LOL! No need to apologize. Just an oversight (like the 3000 ones I've had.)
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October 11th, 2006, 12:11 am |
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Scarecrow
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Alright, if you say so. Then it's if the rider dies the dragon dies?
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October 11th, 2006, 1:30 pm |
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Dragonzroc
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It really has to be Saphira cause without her he can't defeat Galby.
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October 11th, 2006, 5:02 pm |
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Scarecrow
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Saphira for what? What's that got to do with anything?
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October 11th, 2006, 11:38 pm |
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Dragonzroc
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I was joining on to the origanal convo
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October 12th, 2006, 7:04 pm |
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blackdragon
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i think its saphira
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October 12th, 2006, 7:27 pm |
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Scarecrow
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What a big picture? Is that it?
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chimra922
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of corse he luvs saphira more than anything lse on there she is intamatly a part of him
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October 12th, 2006, 10:18 pm |
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Scarecrow
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Yeah a rider and a dragon are mentally linked so they automatically are close.
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October 12th, 2006, 10:23 pm |
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but defeating Galby IS his top priority. Saphira is a priority BECAUSE of that.
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October 13th, 2006, 8:53 pm |
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Fathskie
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Oh... so we can see it from that perspective..
Eragon love Saphira as a part of him, more than a tool. The way you suggest it was like Saphira only a tool for achieving his goal.
The problem is... If Eragon does care most for Saphira, than if Galbatorix threatened him to join OR he will kill or tortured Saphira, definitely Eragon would chose her and join Galbatorix (this is some absolute premise we're setting, extreme things).
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AnnieBee
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I totally agree with you Fathskie, Saphira means a lot more to Eragon than what IMNC is crediting him. To view it this way would mean Saphira is just an isntrument and it would cheapen and vilify the strong, beautiful bond between them. We need to go back to Eragon and Saphira's early relationship (and chapters) to recall the love that grew from the moment she marked him as her Rider. If we are to view it under the perspective of her being a tool, I believe we would only end up with more interrogatives.
I cannot pinpoint the moment and chapter just now, (it's Friday, it's late and my brain went to sleep 2 hrs ago) but I do remember there is a part in Eragon in which Saphira tells Eragon "she would never serve Galbatorix", however I do remember clearly how she gave herself up to the Ra'zac when these threatened to kill Eragon. So what would really happen if either is imprisoned by Galbatorix is a great big ?
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spikesniper
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uhh this ? is slightly stupid becuz eragon would most liekly die without saphira not just cuz he would be weaker physically but remeb er brom and oromis's teachings cuz they said that if ur dragon dies u go insane or most liekly die
and arya means alot to him but he probobly wouldnt die as for killing ghalby well yes but still without saphira he couldnt kill galby so that really wouldnt exist without having saphira
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October 14th, 2006, 3:05 am |
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Scarecrow
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It's the other way around with the if the dragon dies the rider dies, you got it backwards.
He'd need alot more training if he were to defeat galby with saphira.
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AnnieBee
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spikesniper wrote: uhh this ? is slightly stupid becuz eragon would most liekly die without saphira not just cuz he would be weaker physically but remeb er brom and oromis's teachings cuz they said that if ur dragon dies u go insane or most liekly die
and arya means alot to him but he probobly wouldnt die as for killing ghalby well yes but still without saphira he couldnt kill galby so that really wouldnt exist without having saphira
Spikesniper, my friend, this comment is out of order. In this site we should be able to speak out our thoughts without being subject to ridicule, name calling, or otherwise. So pls phrase your posts with more thought. Moving on; This topic if you notice is a highly speculative one. If we are to go by the first two books, I would say Saphira holds a the Number One place in Eragon's heart. If we are to go by "What ifs", that is another ballgame, in which ANYTHING is possible!
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AnnieBee wrote: I totally agree with you Fathskie, Saphira means a lot more to Eragon than what IMNC is crediting him. To view it this way would mean Saphira is just an isntrument and it would cheapen and vilify the strong, beautiful bond between them. We need to go back to Eragon and Saphira's early relationship (and chapters) to recall the love that grew from the moment she marked him as her Rider. If we are to view it under the perspective of her being a tool, I believe we would only end up with more interrogatives.
I cannot pinpoint the moment and chapter just now, (it's Friday, it's late and my brain went to sleep 2 hrs ago) but I do remember there is a part in Eragon in which Saphira tells Eragon "she would never serve Galbatorix", however I do remember clearly how she gave herself up to the Ra'zac when these threatened to kill Eragon. So what would really happen if either is imprisoned by Galbatorix is a great big ?
srry! i forgot to answer Fathskie's post! and i think i came across wrong... what i MEANT to say is that his MISSION is to defeat Galby and he is persevering to complete that task: not for Arya, not for Saphria, but for those who were, are, and will be hurt by Galby.
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spikesniper
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AnnieBee wrote: spikesniper wrote: uhh this ? is slightly stupid becuz eragon would most liekly die without saphira not just cuz he would be weaker physically but remeb er brom and oromis's teachings cuz they said that if ur dragon dies u go insane or most liekly die
and arya means alot to him but he probobly wouldnt die as for killing ghalby well yes but still without saphira he couldnt kill galby so that really wouldnt exist without having saphira Spikesniper, my friend, this comment is out of order. In this site we should be able to speak out our thoughts without being subject to ridicule, name calling, or otherwise. So pls phrase your posts with more thought. Moving on; This topic if you notice is a highly speculative one. If we are to go by the first two books, I would say Saphira holds a the Number One place in Eragon's heart. If we are to go by "What ifs", that is another ballgame, in which ANYTHING is possible!
k lkol but yeah ur right,and sorry for my foolishness but still i beilieve its spahira who is the most important for a number of rzns
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AnnieBee
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And as I, also believe she is Eragon's first love. I also think Christopher Paolini nver intended for us to scrutinize the relationship between them, however that's what happens when you get a bunch of "nitpickers' (in the good sense of the word, of course) like us!
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Scarecrow
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What's a nitpicker? And I think that is his first love, but I'm wondering if Arya has already had one.
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Definition of nit-pick is when you tear something apart looking and delving for something hidden. I do think Glenwing and Ayra had some type of romantic involvement.
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spikesniper
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what was that dudes name who made her tyhe blaack morning glories? it might have been him
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Scarecrow
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What are ya'll talking about? I don't remember this stuff in the book, and if that thing about Glenwing is true, then maybe he broke Arya's heart so now she is afraid to be in love with anyone anymore.
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Fathskie
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AnnieBee wrote: Definition of nit-pick is when you tear something apart looking and delving for something hidden. I do think Glenwing and Ayra had some type of romantic involvement.
Huh..? Was there any Glenwing in Eragon..? I must have skipped that one... Or did you mean faolin (or something)
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AnnieBee
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LOL! Thanks Fathskie, I guess being sleep deprived does have its effects. It was Faolin who made the morning glory for Ayra and Glenwing and Faolin were both with Ayra when Durza captured Ayra. You can refer to the chapter "Ayra's Test", page 462.
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Scarecrow
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Weren't those the two guards that were supposed to protect Arya but died by Durza? Arya was in love with one of them? I guess she doesn't want to love anybody because they might die and make her feel alone or something.
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it might be a reason why she is so bottled up.
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Scarecrow wrote: Weren't those the two guards that were supposed to protect Arya but died by Durza? Arya was in love with one of them? I guess she doesn't want to love anybody because they might die and make her feel alone or something.
Yes, those are the ones. Idk, but somehow Ayra does not strike me as one who would dwell on the past and fear the future. I just think she has too much going on with giving her best effort and assistance into defeating Galbatorix
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I agree on her being too busy about destroying Galby at the moment. But I think that's one reason why she won't show her feelings because she's afraid she might loose that person if she starts loving him and then she'll be in self anguish which doesn't want to be in right now.
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Browsing in the internet I was looking for something and ran into this and it confirms my belief that Eragon's first love is SAPHIRA!
TRC: Who is your favorite character in ERAGON? Why?
CP: That would be Saphira, the dragon. Why is a bit harder. She was always the genesis of Eragon's transformation and growth-I was thrilled by the idea of a young man becoming linked with a dragon. As I wrote Saphira, I made her the best friend anyone could have: loyal, funny, brave, intelligent, and noble. She transcended that, however, and became her own person, fiercely independent and proud.
I love writing about dragons, especially Saphira. Part of what makes her so appealing is that Eragon cares for her from the moment she hatches. That makes their relationship very different than if he had suddenly joined up with an age-old dragon. This way, they're both young and exploring the world for the first time.
Saphira is so intelligent, there were times I felt like she was looking out at me and saying, "What do you want!" It's bit frightening to be at the mercy of an imaginary creature within your own head. You have no defenses.
For the full interview you can find it here:
http://www.teenreads.com/authors/au-pao ... topher.asp
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Quote: TRC: Can you share what readers can expect from the next two installments in this trilogy?
CP: The same breathtaking locations, thrilling battles, and searching introspection as Eragon, in addition to true love.
Hmm theres a Obvious hint for us
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The question is: Who's true love?
Eragon's? Roran"s? Nasuada's? That's what we need to find out!
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All of them probably, or hopefully.
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And who, may I ask, can we have Nasuada "hook up with?"
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Scarecrow
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Some say Murtagh, or somebody? But I don't know.
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Murtagh, (as I see it,) is not worthy of her any longer. He chose power, he chose to be Galbatorix's buddy instead of death!
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Maybe he is afraid of dieing? But I'm hoping Murtagh and Nasuada hook up.
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Scarecrow wrote: Maybe he is afraid of dieing? But I'm hoping Murtagh and Nasuada hook up.
Could be, I don't like him anymore. I would rather die thatn join an evil monster and have to kill innocents just for his benefit!
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Yeah me too. But I'd like to hopefully get them together.
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Murtagh didn't have a choice.The twins captured him and took him to Galbatorix.When Thorn hatched,Galbatorix forced them to swear loyalty to him in the ancient language.They couldn't disagree because he knew their true names.
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Yeah he could of commanded them even if they didn't pledge loyalty I guess and they'd have to whether they want to or not.
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dragonfriend wrote: Murtagh didn't have a choice.The twins captured him and took him to Galbatorix.When Thorn hatched,Galbatorix forced them to swear loyalty to him in the ancient language.They couldn't disagree because he knew their true names.
This has been a huge debate. I see it as Murtagh did have a choice. Not a very enticing one, but a choice nevertheless. After all, he was running away from Galbatorix; why, because he had finally realized the cruel, mindless leader he was. He saw Galby in his madness and he chose to run away from him rather than slaughter innocent people. So when captured by the Twins and taken before Galbatorix, he had the choice to either submitt or die. He chose to submit.
According to the book, this is what it is all about and we are told so through Brom's character.
"And how will I be able to deny the king's wishes when he is threatening me with death/" asked Eragon sharply. Brom sighed. He went to his nightstand and dipped his fingers in a basin of rose water. "galbatorix wants your willing cooperation. Without that. you're worse than useless to him. So the question becomes, If you are ever faced with this coice, are you willing to die for what you believe in? For that is the only way you will deny him." The question hung in the air. Brom finally said, "It's a difficult question and not one you can answer until you're faced with it. Keep in mind that many people have died for their beliefs; it's actually quite common. The real courage is in living and suffering for what you believe." Eragon, 197
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Firetongue wrote: I'm surprised this question was even asked! Saphira of course! It's like she's part of him.
i agree with this, Saphira is the one and only in his life, if Saphira dies, he dies in his heart, and for days, months, years, he weeps for her
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Ayra may die when fighting Galbatorix! i have proof!
with the way CP put the book, i have a feeling that Eragon will lose some more loved ones/good friends, Garrow and Brom died in Eragon, Ajihad died in Eldest, they were all loved ones/good friends. Ayra prolly WILL die!
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Scarecrow wrote: I was saying that I agree because aren't dragons the most powerful weapon a rider can have?
Certainly, but not when they are hurt. And it seems Saphira was hurt by the Lethrblaka when it flew into the cave in Helgrid!!! So I'm guessing Eragon would need to recover consciuousness and THEN heal her
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I agree. But I don't think I read the part when she got hurt.
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Scarecrow wrote: I agree. But I don't think I read the part when she got hurt.
That's one of the last paragraphs in the chapter preview, and it is understood it happened.
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I wonder who the person was that voted for arya.i would like to hear there reasoning. lol
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I don't know I said Saphira and beating Galby.
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how,did you vote twice????(scarecrow)
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I voted once, but said something twice.
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lol, you guys don't think long back enough. just think, what started this whole ordeal? yes, garrow's death. he wants to avenge garrow. everything else is cause and effect.
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now it is for more than merely avenging Garrow's (and now Brom's) death. It is for the people of Alagaesia, for the Elves, and to avenge the race of dragons and to rebuild them.
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I have to disagree with you,,
This whole thing was started because of Saphira ! Garrow's death was caused by Saphira's egg. Even though Garrow was not dead,, Eragon's life will still changed. He still a rider, so he still had to face Galbatorix and the Empire,, which made him had to go to the Varden for alliance, and to Ellesmera for Oromis' lesson.
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yeah, but if Galby didn't send the Ra'zac, then Garrow wouldn't have been killed. That and he can easily pin the blame on Galby.
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Fathskie wrote: I have to disagree with you,,
This whole thing was started because of Saphira ! Garrow's death was caused by Saphira's egg. Even though Garrow was not dead,, Eragon's life will still changed. He still a rider, so he still had to face Galbatorix and the Empire,, which made him had to go to the Varden for alliance, and to Ellesmera for Oromis' lesson.
I agree 100% with you. The whole series is based on the event of Saphira's egg coming to Eragon while in the hunting in the Spine.
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i never thought of it that way... and yeah, it is based like that!
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I think Ayra will be the next rider. Read I'MNOTCRAZY's signature for more info.
Ayra may die when fighting Galbatorix! i have proof!
with the way CP put the book, i have a feeling that Eragon will lose some more loved ones/good friends, Garrow and Brom died in Eragon, Ajihad died in Eldest, they were all loved ones/good friends. Ayra prolly WILL die!
for those who don't understand my sig, for about 200 pages Ayra will be a rider, then she'll die.
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so then why is he doing this? Then shouldn't he be resentful that he got Saphira, cuz his family would be alive if it weren't for him finding the egg!!! that is what i have a problem with. all are reprocussions of him getting Saphira, but then again, it was Galby who spared the Ra'zac, he who sent the Ra'zac, and he who caused the death countless other people.
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I would think that the phrase" Every action has a reaction." would be approppriate in this instance. It seems to have been like a chain reaction starting with the discovery of Saphira's egg.
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I totally agree, when he got the egg a bunch of links just started coming together.
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