Or insted of releasing the Hydrogen they could chew lead or something that is eaily flamible and with other chemical procceses they could breate fire with the lead. So they wouldn't have to waste any Hydrogen.

lol "shhhhh don't tell anyone." wait if I'm a dragon then that means your a shade and silver is a wolf.

its not a dragon if it cant breath fire, then its just a bird with scales.

yes you did but, wouldn't tha release a bunch of energy and then dragons would have to eat a lot?

Why cant it be a dragon.... a bird with scales..... what else would someone call it then... they already named the kamodo dragon after a dragon just cuase of its size... so if it is a huge " Bird with scales" ... it would be a reptile.... What else would you name such a thing ... it makes perfect sense

Well when people think of dragons they usually think of breathing fire. And wouldn't a bird with scales be a dinosaur.

ok theres this dumb this that we can now only have a quote chain of 3 or less so we'll asume that elve king's post is above this message.

They would come up with something... wont be a dragon though, the whole point of dragons is that they can breat fire, its what theyre known for and if they cant breat fore theyre not dragons.

i do believe in dragons, i just think they are extinct.


techincally, a dragon does not have to breathe fire, it is just what we think of when we think of dragons. just like we think dinosaurs are repitles, but they are more bird-mammal then they are reptile. just read Irene Radford's "The Stargods" series. i like her views on dragons and the Krakratrice.



but technically if dragons could breathe fire, it doesnt have to be understood. there are many elements that exist that have not been discovered by men or put on the periodic table. so dragons might just have a natural gland that produces some chemical that when the dragons breath is passed by it creates fire. just like a snake has a gland that produces its venom. but this still raises the question of how the dragon could control its fire, considering that if every time it breathes, it produces flame. well....some things arent meant to be explained. but, it could be that the dragon has control over the glands, so that they dont produce the chemical enless it wants them to.



just my theory.

Ok how many times do I have to say that if it cant breat fire its not a dragon. Its just a scally bird if it cant breath fire.

how do you know???? technically, thats what we think. techincally, dragons dont have to fly. technically....well, you get the point. yes, i agree that dragons SHOULD breathe fire, but im also saying that its not completely necessary. and it doesnt make it a scaly bird with wings, it makes it a dragon still. just like if you put wings on fish, it doesn't make it a scaly bird with wings, it makes it a flying fish. ok, thats a bad example, but you get me, right?

The definition of a dragon is a large flying reptile with the abllity to breathe fire.

who made this definition??? how is he qualified enough to confirm that a dragon is such???

a mythical monster generally represented as a huge, winged reptile with crested head and enormous claws and teeth, and often spouting fire.
-dictionary.com

A gigantic beast, typically reptilian with leathery bat-like wings, lion-like claws, scaly skin and a serpent-like tail, with fiery breath.
-wiktionary

to lazy to search for more

ah, yes, but does the person who posted that have the authority to state that fact? where did he get his information from?

thank-you for grasping the point, Star. it is greatly appreciated, and greatly supports my theory, which does state that dragons CAN breathe fire, but it says that they don't have to, but i guess im restating that, and people dont want to read redundance, so ill shut up.

The problem with the world today, is that we're to literal. Nobody wants to think outside the box, to believe in the impossible. Why should we have to give proof that dragons exist? If we had rock solid proof aside from our faith and willingness to believe, dragons would be flying overhead and spouting flame everywhere. Afterall, this topic is called I believe, "Who BELIEVES in dragons?" Why don't you open your eyes a little wider, and see what else is out there, besides every little thing you believe, just because it's been proven.

And remember, just because it's proven, doesn't make it true. Everytime I turn on the tv, it seems like something that was supposed to be healthy for you last week, causes some horrible disease the next. And they were all PROVEN safe and effective by scientists.

thank-you, Saphirarox and Silver. but, to get back on the topic, yes, i do believe in dragons, i just believe they went extinct with the dinosaurs. but techincally, what do i know??? they could be somewhere...someplace...watching.

Just thought id point out two Crucial words in you definitions rpm...

Not once do either deffinitions State ALWAYS

Thank you for perusing my point sjlsscsdoo

you're welcome.




wait, that's spamming. i should say something else.



ummmmm... oh, yeah. i think i stated that dragons technically dont have to fly, either, but i really think they do, because how else do they stay hidden from us? unless they are really extinct like i think they are. but here is one problem that ive found. there has never really been any HARD evidence that points to the existence, has there? i mean, we have dinosaur bones, but no dragon bones. unless there has never been a death of a dragon, or they keep their dead buried someplace secret, or maybe dragons dont rot to bones, or something, theres no hard evidence. i still believe, but itd be nice to see some real proof.

i said way back in this forum that many dinosaur fossils are still showing up all over the place... some we have never sen before.... it could be possible that we found one in the future of a dragon.... in my opinion, it they may be related to a raptor, since scientists found in there fossils what were once wings

i dont see how a dragon could be related to a raptor. and a raptor with wings? wouldnt that be a little small to be a dragon?? and ive thought of another thing. who thinks that dragons talked, like actual langauge, not telapathic stuff??? and do you think dragons were generally good, or generally evil??? i would hope good, but if they were good, what made them go extinct, or into hiding? well, i guess humans made them go into hiding, but good should always prevail in some way, so what happened???

see when i say like it related to raptor im talking about a very basic dragon here.... if it kept the same body style and was able to use its wings.... i would define that as a form of dragon.... no talking or magic.... no fire breathing... just being able to fly... have scales a tail teeth..... stuff like that.... I think dragons went extinct just as the dinosaurs did... i don't even think humans were around yet.... no good no evil ... there was just survival. This is just my opinion however

i like that, except i always thought of dragons as huge, but i guess that was just my thinking, just like most people think dragons breathe fire. but other than that, ur theories agree with my theories.

Yea thats just what i saw when i got back on this forum... ive been away for a little while and i come back to see rpm arguing the same point he was with me a couple months ago lol

yeah. that was kind of annoying, especially since i kept pointing out to rpm that that may be the technical definition, but does the person who put that definition up have the authority to say that, as in has he ever seen a dragon breathe fire? i mean, it would be really cool if they could breathe fire, and i would like them too, and thats how i imagine them in my mind, but its not a necessity that they have to.

believe me lol i went through the exact same conversation with him..... lol

yeah. we should probly get back on topic before we get in trouble. not like i care, but i dont want this topic to get shut down or whatever. so yes, i believe.

I wish I could sigh...
But I belive that the ones
who first said they saw a dragon
said the truth. Becouse it is lizards
that is in that size and look like a dragon
should but they are very uncommon.
And no they cant spurt fire.

basically, dragons are probably here on this earth, we just dont recognize them cuz we have this false picture in our head about what they SHOULD look like....

...... Earlyier in the year I posted a website on this topic and it gave evidence that dragons were real..... they had found a dragon skeleton and eggs..... but what is most intigueing is that they found a baby dragon in a jar....... we spent at least 3-5 pages trying to figure out if it was real or what it was made of......

Anyway the point is dragons are real, or at least were at one point in time, and there is a large amount of evidence to prove it.

yes, definitely. i personally think that they are now extinct, but it would be wonderful if they werent.

Exactly, and that book your writing reminded me of a rumor i heard about a year ago..... I was watching something on Animal Planet and it showed the dragon skeleton and they said scientists might have found enough dna to recreate them but I haven't heard anymore..........

Ok, if it doesnt look like a dragon, and it doesnt breath fire like a dragon, unless it was a thing on it that says, "I am a dragon" its not a dragon, it would be something else! why cant anyone understand that?!

I understand what you mean rpm, but I also understand what he's saying...... but since they've found a skeleton that pretty much rules out sj's theory.......

yeah, theyre probably extinct now, like i said.




that, or theyre living at the center of the earth......hehe, wonder what the weathers like down there?

I don't know lets a wild guess.... oh how bout really hot?!?!?!

yeah, i would gess so.......




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Lol they wouldnt even need to be able to breathe fire for it to be coming out of their mouths.

We pretty much know that there are non living now, we would hae seen one, the question is if they DID exist.

Well, we've found evidence, like the whole skeleton thing and ancient myth and folklore tell about dragons....

@rpm: well unfortunately, humans have a very misguided conception of what we really know. we as humans are a very ignorant species. and we think higher of ourselves than we ought. we may think we know everything, but we never do. its impossible to know everything. if we knew everything, we would be God, not God Himself. but were not, are we. so its a preposterous statement to say that we know this for a fact. yes, its probably true that they are extinct, and i believe this for myself, but is it a fact? do we know it? not really. there is a chance, slim as it might be......

they probably existed once but not and more

exactly. some catastrophe probly wiped em out.....too bad.

They could have existed, but if they were whiped out why haven't we found any bones or carcasses of dragons yet?

i think we actually have found some bones......

Really, the closest thing that has been found that I know of is a dinosaur.

hmmmmmmm, maybe, but thats just more proof that they are alive......somewhere......

If dragons did exist they are probably extinct. In midevil times Europeans thought dragons were demons so if draogns were alive the Europeans would have tried to kill them off.

ah, they might have tried.....but maybe the dragons escaped......somewhere.....but theyre too scared to come out.....

they couldn't have got them all. that was in medeival times and north america wasn't discovered for how many hundred years. And yes i do beleive.

yeah, true.....like i said, they are out there somewhere.....its just where thats the ultimate question.

I imagine they flew to another continent. Maybe somewhere in the amazon jungle.

there is probably some secret underground place at the north pole that we havent found yet......

They could be anywhere that man hasn't explored yet.

yeah.....



basically the point is: they exist/existed.......

yeah they had to exist. look at all the evidence there is in "legends"'.

well, those legends are really bogus.....the real proof is the Bible, aaaaaannnnnnnnnddddddddd, i cant say more than that......

You know in previous posts in this topic I used that as proof....

Sjl, dont you dare say that the bible is proof. even saying that is enough religios talk to be agaist the rules because its offensive to people who dont believe in the bible.

okay, fine.....but basically dragons existed, theyre gone, i wish they werent, end of story.....

well, i for one believe......they are here, we just have to look for them!

yes, exactly cynder. thankyou for ur support......

oh, no problem......i just wish some ppl wouldnt live in ignorance.....oh, well, its their choice and my job rly isnt to convince them otherwise.....

yeah, ive found that its rly a waste of time to try and convince someone their wrong......

well, i can just hope that that solid proof wont come by a dragon eating you.....lol, jk......




yeah, sry, but i cant give you any proof. its just something you either believe, or dont.....

yeah. well, its possible that they couldve gone extinct, but then where are the megaloads of bones that theyve found for dinosaurs? the only answer is that they have long lives and are still living.....somewhere. that, and fossil graveyards have no hint of anything dragon related.

yeah, something like that......ugh, im too tired to think about proof right now........and i have to go to school tomorrow on only 6 hours or less of sleep......ugh.

i pretty much belive that there are dragons somewhere. Some probably live underwater, some probably in caves or maybe they probably turn invisible or something

Comodo dragons?



And there are also many other lizards that are technically classed as dragons, I don't remember any of their names (not a lizard expert)

well there's only 2 options. they exist or they don't. and there's no way of telling either or until some convincing evidence is brought forth. only speculations so far

The only thing I believe about dragons is that they have been representations of many great civilizations.

yeah, something like that. they're here

The dragons had to exist they are in almost every legend. If they are still alive they are so well hidden that no one will find them until they are willing to reveal themselves.

yeah, but legends don't prove anything, that's why they're legends. i do believe that dragons are alive, but not because of legends

i lik the idea but theres no hard evidane to prove it

yeah, same here. i would like to believe it, but until i'm shown....not really

Everytime I tell my friends about dragons, they roll their eyes and laugh. They do exsist, we just don't know where or how to find them. That is what I believe, anyway. I love dragons with all my being. I'm serious!

they could be at the center of the earth swimming in a whole bunch of molten lava....but i really think they're just extinct

Unfortunately you are probably right...but there have been some sightings...i as well believe that they are extinct but i dont know everything now do i?

well there have been UFO sightings too...doesn't mean they exist

@sj: yea i know that why i said that you are probably rite...
@Gavina: you may hav a point there...

well really we've covered every possible surface of this planet with our technology. but we haven't gotten far underneath. so there's a possibility. what if dragons are like really just giant earthworms that live really far down? and only myth has made them appear like what they are?

Id probably die of a heart attack...or laughing...or grief...i cant decide
lol

I'd die of excitement. lol. then i'd go down there

And die form either burning or freezing
I wish they wernt extinct...

yeah it'd be awesome if they weren't....or maybe bad. who says dragons weren't evil?

...yea your rite...but it would be cool to be a rider...id love it if alagaisia was real...o dear im going crazy...

yeah, if dragons even allowed people to get on...