hey guys im saying angela used to be a rider and she used tamerlein (probably wrong spelling) because
1. she wears green spangled armour in battle
2. oromis said she was in ellesmera before but went by a different name

the armour could signify that her dragon was green and if she did use tamerlein then that would also signify that she had a green dragon. If she went by a different name before then her dragon could have died in the fall and she wants to hide the fact that she is a surviving rider from everyone else. If she did indeed use tamerlein she could have went to ellesmera to give the elves her sword to futher protect her identity.

so guys any thoughts on my theory?

First out I would like to point out that Angela is based on CP sister as a joke

And this is why she can't have used Támerlein:
Támerlein was the sword of the deceased Elven Dragon Rider Arva. He was killed defending Ilirea by the Forsworn Kialandi. He gave his sword to his sister Naudra to defend herself. She escaped to Ellesméra along with another dragon and Rider (Glaedr and Oromis most likely). It resided in Ellesméra in the care of Lord Fiolr, Naudra's mate.

Támerlein belonged to the elven rider Arva.


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And him as a elder rider would hav known if she was a rider or not. No?


First Angela dosn't have a gedwëy ignasia. Her armour dosn't implay anything since there are many who has coloured armours.
And I explaind why she coulden't have used Támerlein above.


Oromis would have known that. And her only "master" was tenga.
tenga dosn't train riders. Unless you aslo are saying that he was a rider.


As I have explaind above, she couldn't have used Támerlein.


unlikely

True enough.



I can't for sure prove that Angela wasn't a rider, but looking at the fact my personla opinion is that she wasn't.

Only sixteen Dragon Riders escaped the downfall. The first was King Galbatorix, although his first dragon was dead; thirteen of the Forsworn; Brom, who helped found the Varden, a rebel organization; and Oromis, who remained with the elves in Du Weldenvarden, waiting until a new Rider would emerge.

But that it's only my opinion. At least I proved that she coulden't have used Támerlein.

yeah but you did it in a completely **** way... i only forgot about the sword being another riders sword... you don't need to put people down that badly dude, im surprised if you have any real friends..

I have an habbit of being a jerk, but I do have to ask in what way I was being mean this time? I only stated the info I knew.... =/


Seriously! No insults or nothing! I just stated the information I knew.
In what way was I puting any one down in a "bad" way?


Wonderful.... He makes it personal even tho I haven't done anything this time =/

i mean the way you made it sound personal to begin with like you were just out to prove me wrong no matter what, we all have opinions right i just got it wrong because of my memory this time meh im not arguing anymore anyway so whatever.

I didn't wrote only to prove you wrong. It was a topic about whreas Angela was a rider or not. I just posted my opinion with fact to back it up =/


And I respect your opinion. I never bashed your memory or something like that.

Angela could not have been a rider. It just dosnt fit.





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Angela could have been a rider, but she probably wasn't. She's much too jovial to have lost her dragon to Galby unless she is mad. And her character in no way makes her seem mad.

I don't think so. I don't know why but I can't see Angela like a rider. Even so this is a good theory.

She doesn't seem like a 'rider-like' character does she?
I do hope we find out more about her in the final book though.

I have been all for Angie since the day I first signed up here. as? Angela_For_Ryder. Wow. Enough said.

I think she is a delusional half-elf who believes she is a herbalist warrior who talks with werecats and is truely a crazy (obviously) being who happens to be a long-forgotten half-Rider.

What's a half rider? And being such a unique being how could she be long forgotten?

Half Rider: One of her parents having been a Rider.

Long Forgotten: No one remembers a parent of hers was a Rider.

But CP has already made it clear that the 'rider trait' is not passed on to a rider's children, so technically there can be no such thing as a half rider.

Agreed.
The fact is, if Angela was not a rider (and she probably wasn't) then there is nothing special about her in that respect.

Angie has a good case, though. I have to point out a few other facts.

a: Angela can talk with magical creatures, and she wasn't surprised when she found out Eragon was a Rider.
ca: Solembum probably knew, and would have told Angela.
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a: Angela seemed to know more than she was saying. Re-read her actions/reactions to him in Eragon.
ca: She was being flippant, was doing it on purpose, or was suspicious.
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a: Angela carried an unusual weapon for a 'human', as noticed by Eragon and Saphira.
ca: She got it from an unusual place.

Yeah, this seems kind of wierd, but everyone is going to have a counter-argument, so I posted those too so I wouldn't have to come back and explain what I meant. Because I would have to eventually.

I have faith in Angela. She has some kind of unusual backstory. Remember that. I just hope we find out what it is in book four.

This is from Random Buzzers Q&A with Christopher Paolini.

Q: Is it possible that there might be more riders hidden in the world that Eragon could run into?

CP: Only Galbatorix.

http://shurtugal.com/2010/11/12/random-buzzers-qa-with-christopher-paolini-part-1/

Which means that Angela could be something other than just a normal human (and probably is) but is not a rider. That's the only thing I can come up with.

She is far from normal ^^


Agreed.


The bigest theroies about Angela is that she has the blood from either an elf or a greyfolk. Her mother/father or Grandfater or something like that.

But if she had the blood of an elf shouldn't she behave sort of like an elf? She doesn't do that at all. She's probably something else entirely.

An elf dosn't behave in one way because he/she is an elf. They behave after how they have been raised ^^ If she was born outside Du Veldervarden and had a human parent as well it explains why she dosn't behave as an elf.


She dosn't have too. You behave after how you was raised ^^


I botn agree and disagree because I'm honastlt clueless. It fits that she is a part elf but still not. She can be anything xD

@the librarian: She doesn't behave as a human or elf or anything in between. If one of her parents was an elf then elvish behavior would 'rub off' on her, and if her other parent was a human then human behavior would 'rub off' on her as well. She doesn't behave like either. She acts completely different to both races.
If she was abandoned or orphaned at an early age however, I could see why she behaves the way she does.

I just don't think this likely. Angela being a rider? No..

I think that Angela wasn't a rider. It dosn't make sense. But, being part elf...
Galbaorix is the only human past maturity(something like that) said Arya. "And me " piped up Angela "Come on now, you can't be very much older hthen i am" said Nasuada "Your confusing apperances with age etc

ok, most people agree she is not a rider and they also agree that she is someone special. Well, since i read the chapter King Cat, I'm sure Angela has more to show than she does. I think like that because when Nasuada said that would be necessary (to become possibly to the Werecats joining the Varden) for spellcasters to examine the werecats' memories, Gramrr Halfpaw said with these words: ''If anyone is brave enough to read our thoughts, let them. But not her,” and he twisted to point at Angela. “Never her.”.

and that's enough for me to prove she has a confused and interesting past... I hope to find out what it really means at November 8th ;D

Is this chapter (King cat) the first chapter of Inheritance or it's single bonus chapter?

i guess it's not the first chapter. you know, the beginning of the chapter doesn't seem to be so.

If I don't remeber it wrong the King cat chapter was the fourth chapter in Inheritance.

"King Cat" is the fourth chapter and adding to the Angela discussion, she can't have been a rider because Paolini said that no more secret riders pst or current will show up. So the only riders left right now are Eragon, Murtagh, and Galbatorix. In the next book a fourth rider will be revealed which could possibly be Angela.

No he simply replied that there would be no secret or hidden riders. It would be a character that has been in all three books which means that it could be angela. Do i think it will be? no, but it very well may be. nobody knows i guess we'll see.

I don't think Angela is a rider because if she did have a dragon and it died she would go into madness and die soon after, unless she is like Brom and is full of vengence. But she doesn't come across like that and she isn't a strong magician, she only heals.

I would have to agree with the most common opinion there. There just doesn't seem a possible way for Angela to be a rider.
Facts
1. She is a weak spell caster, very weak.
2. Her master wasn't a rider. Tenga, son of Ingvar. The crazy guy who is trying to answer seemingly useless questions.....lol
3. I believe she would be more directly involved with the elves and varden

those my thoughts

No, the rider doesn't go crazy (maybe I said it wrong), the rider would die soon after because of the grief. Anyway I agree with Rien.1234.

That's not true at all, a rider or the dragon if either one were to die could live a life nearly the same, you've been watching to much of the movie, I mean look at Brom his dragon was killed but did he immediatly die or kill himself nah.

yes I am probably mixed up with the film and the book, but I heard some where that a rider goes into madness once his dragon dies and then soon after he dies. That was what happened to Galbatorix, but then again he managed to survive when his first dragon got killed.

Your probably right though.

It's true that they probably do go mad, it's like losing a bit of there own mind. Look at Glaedr, he may not be able to help for the first few fights unless it's against Thorn and Murtagh because he'll want revenge through Eragon.
And if Angela were a rider that could be why she's a little of the rocker.

Yeah, the rider probably wouldn't die, they would go like Gleadr, as you said.

The movie was terrible.

Anyway, back to the Topic about Angela being a rider...

Well gomensigh you say that because she can lie means there is a possibility that she can use magic. I don't think that is the case. There are many cases where if she had the ability to use magic. She would have, her personality would have diven her too. Like when eragon got injured.

And as for the multiple master idea. I don't think that she does have them because she called him her master. Not one of her masters. Just picking at grammer but yeah..

Those are good points. But i do not believe that she is a rider. It is a slim possibility but not a probable one in my opinion. I think she is more connected to were cats then dragons.

Angela may go into battle with green armour but she isn't a strong magician, as I said earlier. She might have a werecat and other weird things, she is weird,but I do not think she is a rider. Who cares if she turned up in Elesmera... there's a lot of things that isn't explained about her.

There's a chance she is the next rider.

Well, she is a weird person, as I said before, and maybe she isn't human, she might be half elf or something like that. But there still isn't enough facts for her to be a rider as I explained earlier.

She's done magic maybe once or twice in the books, but she mainly heals the wounded. She might be faking being a weak magician but that would be very silly as the Varden needs magicians.

Angela caring a strange weapon into battle is weird, but maybe she got it from her master Tenga.

Her allowed to go into Elesmera is strange though...

She's more likely to be the next rider.

She must be traveller.

She's always where the action is, she even says that in the books.She's been to Ellesmera, she's visited the dwarves and she's a good swards person.

Also another reason that i dont think that she's a rider is because CP said that she wasnt even supposed to be in the books and that he didnt add her or elva untill he had finished his outline for all three books. Even if he wanted dramatically shift his story, i dont think he would change it that much.

I never even knew that!

What you said will probably make another reason why she will not be the next rider.