I think Eragon will forget about its ample power and be reminded of it by glaedr. He will then obtain the sword and take all the energy for himself, enough, i believe, to destroy galbatorix.

My math: Galbatorix has about 400(exaggeration) eldunaris plus his strength the shruikens - his amount given to murtagh. About 350, okay?
Those 350 eldunaris energy will not endure forever, they will regain their energy, but over time. They can only store as much energy as the size of the eldunari. So, 350 dragons at their peak of strength.

Okay, well, glaedr is a large dragon and if he and Oromis (plus many other elves!) have given every iota of thier strength every day for the last 100 years, naegling must be formidable indeed.


My assumptions are off, but i believe Naegling is greater than Galbatorix. If Eragon obtained Naegling, he would have Naegling's strength plus Glaedr's strength plus the elves assisting him plus his and Saphira's reserves.

Anybody agree?... or disagree?:P

It is quite possible but there are a number of problems with the theory.
1. Murtagh could have actually acquired the sword after the battle.
2. The sword is lost nobody knows where it landed.
3. When would Eragon have time to get north to Gilead to retrieve the sword the entire flight he would be easy prey for Murtagh if they met.
4. Naegling could have been broken. note: it is possible to destroy a rider's sword

Though the basics of the theory are good and combined with Are an the elves Naegling probably would provide Eragon with enough power to kill Galby but if not it would defiantly would give Eragon enough power to kill Murtagh.

it would be a problem for him to get it, though it might be worth spending time to get it.
i doubt murtagh would have retreived it after the battle; he probly thinks it isnt worth his while, or couldnt find it.
and even if the sword it broken, the energy was stored in gem..

1. If Murtagh knew of the power in the sword he would probably try to retrieve it.
2. Nasauda would probably not allow Eragon on another risky trip through the Empire to start searching for a sword which he may not find.
3. How would they find a small gem in a mud-covered field somewhere around where the dragons fought when they aren't even sure precisely where that is?

alright alright.
1.) Galbatorix is still conhtrolling murtagh as he leaves..
2.) Something weird like islanzadi dies and he is summoned... idk about this one, i think you have me beat
3.)just summon the gem. "accio naegling!"

remember the elves captured gil'ead(sp) so eragon could have them send the sword to him

Edit: ^^^I didn't even read this comment.^^^ : D

Oh! I had an idea!
If the sword was destroyed leaving the gem, an elf could easily send the gem to Eragon no matter the distance, just as Eragon was taught by Oromis.

why would they be doing that anyhow(puting engery in naegling)? besides oromis said that they had been putting energy in his sword

they had been putting energy into the gem?? (because thats were the energy is stored) energy cannot be stored into metal, only gems...

thats what i meant. just to be sure naegling is that elf lords sisters husbands sword right? or was naegling oromises?

oromis' sword

oh i thought it was that other sword. remember in brisingr oromis says when he and eragon leave du weldenvarden and eragons asks oromis about is problem he says that he erected wards aginst it and that a couple elves would come down each week and put energy into the gem.

Yeah, I remember all that. *That's most of my theory*

yeah between that gem and aren(broms ring) he would have alot of energy although i doubt that they would match a couple hundred HoHs though.

Idk. It has to be close... Oromis said he could shift a mountain.

yes, however you must remember that some would have been used up during the battle. now maby theres only enough to shift half a mountain. remember hohs at least seem to be gems and gleadrs hoh as like a foot in diameter, and naegling's gem is at best the size of your fist. and things have a limit to what they can hold so in my opinion the couple eldnuri would have more engery.

No, I forget where it says it (I think in Eldest, while being mentored by Oromis) he learns that you can never fill a gem with too much power.
(Now that I recall, it's when Oromis inspects the gift from the dwarf(no idea on name) who gave Eragon the necklace that deflects scrying).

eldunari are like gems. and there are limits to how much energy can be stored in somthing. besides some of naeglings energy would have been used during the battle. now maby it could only lift half a mountain.

Eldunaris are similar in appearance to gems, that is all. Gems differ many ways from Eldunaris, such as the whole dragon's conscience part.


...And the dwarfs name is Gannel..

Yeah Gems can hold unlimited amout(or maybe an amount so vast no1 has reached it) while HoHs can eventually be full of energy

if gems dont have a limit to how much energy they can hold why would eragon have put energy into the belt of beloth the wise instead of just his sword? did eragon check tamerleins gem for energy?

Actually im not sure why he didn't
or why it had 12 diamonds???

No he didn't but i wonder if it had any energy

i've lost my copy of eldest . however im pretty sure that it said eragon filled zar'roc and once that was full he switche to the belt

Yeah last night i read that the Belt stored ALMOST unlimited amount of energy so it has some limit

Yes there is a limit to how much energy the belt can store however in Brisingr when Eragon and Saphira go to the campfires we learn just how big this is as Eragon notices that no matter how much energy he steals from dying animals he the gems don't seem to be getting full. I think how much a gem can hold is related to how perfect the gem is as Oromis says the gems on the belt were the most perfect that the riders could find.

that is a good theory

click please!!!!!!!

ah i see also i'd say the type of gem has a factor in it like Rubies hold more than Emeralds and Diamonds hold more than Oxyn or something like that

Probably not considering how the gems on the belt of the wise are not all the same colour.

they arent the same color cause the are different and the riders found them

Seriously I said they were different colour and you posted back telling me the colour of each gem was different and the riders found them. thank you for telling me what I had already posted.

leave the noob alone Alclock so far all ive noticed is that he posts simple replies to get his post count up.

It was only the one Rider that found them.

Wonder how much energy they can hold in contrast to simple gems

No it was the riders as a group. Oromis explains they mined some themselves and for others they traded with the dwarves.

i thought it was just Belot the Wise

No it is the belt of Beloth the wise but the gems were gathered not just by him.

kk thanks for clearing that up Alclock

oromis said that the dragon riders found the gems not just oromis

Since the elves had captured Gil'ead they could send the sword to Eragon and he can put the energy from the gem into the belt and his sword

The Elves could do that, but I think Izlanzadi finds Naegling and put it on a display cabinet like Tamerlein.

Perhaps... it would seem more likely that Eragon recieve it as they had a master pupil relationship where Islanzadi's might have just been a formal friendship.

If they do give Naegling to Eragon, he could use it for more energy as the sword has a lot of energy stored in its diamond on the handle.

Yeah with Naegling and Glaedr's heart of heart's i think he could overpower Murtagh, not to mention all the energy that's stored in Aren.

I don't believe that Eragon will come to posses the sword. I think the elves will keep it. As they should for they will need its power as they get deeper into the empire.
Eragon needs the power yes but there are those who do not have a dragon to strengthen their own magic. The elves will keep it in my opinion.

Do you think that if Glaedr were to tell Eragon that he should keep the sword, that keeping the sword would have been what Oromis wanted, that the elves would still keep it? I think that Glaedr has more claim over it then the elves do.

No but I do not believe that Glaedr would ask the elves for it now that he and Oromis are no longer with them. Basically Glaedr would care enough for the elves to know that they need it, while Eragon has 12 of the best elven speelweavers and two dragons.

Naegling will probably given to the next rider.