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i think that after saphira's egg was stolen, galby protected the eggs himself. after all it is his dream to rebuild the riders. i don't think greenie's egg was stolen. it's almost impossible. and if galby had another rider ge would use him/her.


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ok. to clearly RESTATE my theory:
1. the green dragon has already hatched.
2. NO ONE KNOWS EXCEPT OROMIS, GLEADER, ISLANZADI, AND ARYA. and possibly other select few.
3. The guy who stole saphira's egg also stole the green dragon's egg but he either lost it or hide it somewhere else.( he wouldn't have told everyone about it!!!)
4. THIS THREAD IS NOT A DEBATE ABOUT THE COLOR OF THE DRAGON!!! PLEASE DON'T KEEP POSTING ABOUT IT!!!

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Umm, We already know that Brom was the one who successfully stole Saphira's egg with the help of Jeod and we know that they were only able to steal that one egg. Also, if it has already hatched why did it never appear? The dragon would be bigger than Saphira and would have had more training.

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i agree with you gomenesigh on the fact that islanzadi would have used greenie. but you're wrong, it wasn't brom nor jeod the ones who stole the egg. it was a guy that for some reason stole only one egg and ran with it. and brom, jeod and morzan looked for him


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No I'm not. It is said in Eragon that through all the chaos that happened at the time, Brom happened to stumble across the egg and bring it to the Varden. Which is why Brom didn't contact Jeod for all those years.

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he found the egg in gil'ead where morzon hid it after finding the guy who stole it from galby :)

it is a cool idea but i also think the elves would of already used it :(

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Jeod found a secret way into the elven built bit of Galabatorix's palaceand told the Varden.
The Varden arranged for the egg to be stolen but for some unknown reason the thief onlu succeeded in stealing one egg.
The thief fled across the land avoiding both the Varden and the Empire.
Morzan found the thief, killed him, and took the egg.
Brom killed Morzan and his dragon and then took the egg.
Brom then hid the egg where he knew the Varden would find it and left to find and help Selena.

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Sorry to raise up an old point, and for talking about a post more than a year old but...

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Ever thought that the probability of people thinking of that improbability might make this improbability very probable indeed? :P

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Anyone up for saying, "The egg has gone to parts unknown."?

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RiderEriel wrote:
Ever thought that the probability of people thinking of that improbability might make this improbability very probable indeed? :P

you lost me at the bolded word.

Togira. i think it's in a vault in Urubaen.


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That was very confusing Eriel, but I think I get what you mean. I think the egg is still in Uru'Baen too.

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I agree that the most probable explanation would be that the egg is still in Uru'baen. I just hate all this uncertainness :(

CP will most likely come up with something completely else that we've yet to even state in this forum. However, there are a LOT of good, very possible points that I never thought of before I came here. Such as how those 7 words Brom told Eragon could summon the dragon when he's fighting Galby. I preferred that one, but it's a definate possibility.

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i think that it isent arya because she would be practicly DYING with longing for her dragon. I think its going to be some ecsclusive elf maid whos gone and nicked the egg and hidden with it, then meets with eragon and they fall in love

heyhey, listening to all your debate has given me an IDEA! You know the place where the wild dragons nested and stuff? Well there could be a rider hidden in there! Or, there could be an entire oganisation of riders hidden in there, waiting for the right time. WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT BEFORE!!!!!?????

wat about the egg bein hidden in the vualt of souls with a rider same age as eragon and saphira? Ready treained, same age character in waiting. :D :D

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Ok, wow so you know you can edit posts right? You just double posted two times. Also you need to read the rules. You are not supposed to use capitalization to emphasize your words. You use italics or underline it.


If there was a whole organization than they would have defeated Galby already. They are hiding in the forest which means that the elves would have to know that they are there and Oromis would have had all that time to train them and they would be more than ready and they would have taken Galby down already.

Why would a rider be hiding in the VoS? That would be very cowardly of them and it is doubtful that there would be enough oxygen or food and water to support a dragon and rider that long.

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And, there is a problem with you theory DG. First, CP said that the new rider would be someone that was in the first two books, and two Eragon wouldn't switch his affections that easily.

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But the rider might be asleep. i mean, has a spell over them to keep them sleeping for ages. The words Brom said to Eragon might be the ones to wake her. Everyone agrees its a her??

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But if they were then why hasn't Eragon made an attempt to go find them. If Brom somehow knew how to awaken a sleeping rider than he would know where to find them and Eragon would have gone to get them.

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This is an entirely possible Idea. Maybe this is why Arya's party failed years before: only TWO eggs were in the castle, instead of THREE. Because the THIRD had already been stolen!! It evens out perfectly!!

Also, the third rider could have been sent to Vroengard. It would stop Galby from going there, because he rarely ventures far from his castle, let alone goes all the way to Vroengard.

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i dont think that the elves hide a green dragon but i think that galbatorix is training another dragonrider with his green dragon....And in the future the green dragon and his dragonrider will combine forces with eragon and mertag and they will win galbatorix!!that is my theory!!

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I now think that there is not three eggs, but four! Galby has one egg, and no one knows about the fourth egg, and then it somehow randomley turns up in front of a character and Tadar! New rider! The least likley person to be the next rider would be Nasuda,(Is that how you spell it?) I think.

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That's what we've been saying. There were four eggs, three are hatched, and two are known about.

Then again, this could be expanded to the idea that maybe a colony of Riders expected this to happen and is hidden elsewhere.

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wasnt it said in the first book there were only three eggs?...

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It did say in the first book that their was only three eggs, but like you said before, their may be a colony of Riders hidden on Vreonguard (Is that how you spell it?) it would be the perfect place for them, because you could only get there, unless you want to spend ages sailing there,is Mutagh, Eragon and Galby. Or, Eragon goes to visit Vreongaurd, and brings Arya or someone like that with them, and this dragon egg is hidden away somewhere in Doru Areba and it hatches? Perfectly plausible. But, CP could have put in a barbed line and made the next rider someone completley animouyus that is only mentioned in the books? For example, the theif. Only a suggestion, my dear readers. Eragon dosent have to like the new rider, its the dragon that counts. For Saphira anyway. Oh, and by the way, it wasn't Arya who was told to steal the eggs from Galby.

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It is pretty much impossible that there is a secret colony of old riders still alive. It has been explained in the books that they are all dead and now Oromis as well and even if there were Galby would know they were there. They cannot hide a whole colony and being as old as they would be, they wouldn't be able to steal an egg from Galby. Not to mention if there was a colony they would have already contacted him in some way like Oromis did and Oromis would have known about them. Since Eragon doesn't even have time to go back to Ellesmera where he could do training, he doesn't have enough time to go traipsing around some abandoned island. It is also said that there are weird strange monsters that now inhabit the island and Eragon very well might not be able to fight them with only him and Saphira.

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Yes, the books do say that its inhabited by strange beasts, but that may be a facade mantained to deter everyone else. I agree that a colony of riders isent likley, but what about a dragon egg in Doru Areba guarded by someone like Brom? Or, they could be sleeping, under a spell or somesuch...I have just had an awsome idea! Suppose Arya gets captured again. Suppose she somehow comes into contact with the egg. Suppose...It Hatches! Everyone agrees its a her, and is going to be on eragons side? Cos if it wasent then it would be three against one. (Oromis is dead.) Has anyone thought that CP might have set up these forums so he can get some good ideas?

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Then again, all you may be right and the egg is still in Ura'bean, but I really really think its somewhere else.







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It does say as the title, the green dragon has all ready hatched!!!! But we all seem to be speculating about the next rider. Who says CP hasnt set up these forums so he can get the best ideas? :lol:

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If she gets captured she will be taken straight to Galbatorix and he will make her swear to him and if the dragon hatched he would make the dragon do the same thing just as was happened to Murtagh.

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Q: Does the piece of green dragon egg shell that Eragon found at the Stone of Broken Eggs in book 2 have anything to do with the green dragon that will be on the cover of book 4?

CP: Nope. It was just a coincidence.

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actually if you read the interview cp says no comment. its posted on www.shutugal.com if you doubt me;)

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That Free_Flyer it's an old interview.
This is the newest one. I keep my self uptadet.
http://shurtugal.com/2010/11/12/random-buzzers-qa-with-christopher-paolini-part-1/

Just scroll down to the end. It is the last question under Book 4 Questions

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I'm not sure that it's going to be Arya. I mean, who says it even has to be female? It's the dragon that counts. For example, Saphira was obviously crackers about Gleadr (Thats not how you spell it is it?) yet Eragon didn't go soppy on Gleadr or Ormis. (That's spelt wrong to.) And does anyone know when the book is coming out?

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Who says there was ONLY three eggs? Who says that some guy didn't nicked another one during the slaughter of doru areba? Or, that the theif was female and by accident she bonded with one and only managed to grab saphira and galby covered it up and looked for it discreetly? Who say's that it wasn't arya? Who says that her dragon isn't just hiding, while she teaches it so she can launch a sudden attack on galby? Who says Ormis didn't manage to grab an egg? Who says that gleadr dosn't have some kind of secret girlfrend that's teaching arya? Who says that Saphira has already met the dragon and is hiding it from eragon?

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Dragongirl wrote:
Who says there was ONLY three eggs? Who says that some guy didn't nicked another one during the slaughter of doru areba?

Christopher Paolini said so in one of many interviews.
Go to http://www.shurtugal.com and check out the interviews there if you for some reason don't belive me.

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Or, that the theif was female and by accident she bonded with one and only managed to grab saphira and galby covered it up and looked for it discreetly?

We know that because the theif is named Hefring and was metion as "he" serval times. He worked for Brom and Jeod so he is not some secret person we don't know anything about. He did however betrayed them and left with the egg for him self. Morzan cought him before Brom and took the egg. Luckely Brom found Morzan before he returned to Urû'baen.

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Who say's that it wasn't arya? Who says that her dragon isn't just hiding, while she teaches it so she can launch a sudden attack on galby?


Q: Is it possible that there might be more riders hidden in the world that Eragon could run into?

CP: Only Galbatorix.

http://shurtugal.com/2010/11/12/random-buzzers-qa-with-christopher-paolini-part-1/

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Who says Ormis didn't manage to grab an egg?

Have you read the books? Or did you just slept at the part where it was told that Oromis and Glaedr is crippeld. They barly survived the torture of Kialandí and Formora when Ilirea fell to Galbatorix before they escaped.

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Because CP has said that there is no more dragons.

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why would cp contradict himself in different interviews? maybe he just doesnt want to give away everything.
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CP doesn't contradict him self. It is the new interviews who matters. It would only be unrealistic to think that the plot won't change as he progress. New ideas comes up all the time :)
CP doesn't want to give up the important stuff right out in the open. He gives us small "clues" if we put it in that way. But as with most of the times the fans are very capable to understand them when we work and arguing together ^^

My view is that the egg has NOT hatched and will hatch for Arya. When? I don't know. But hopefully before the end. I don't want Eragon to go rampage all alone. That would be way to unrealistic =/

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yeah if arya isnt the next rider i will be very sad. you should chech out my other thread about the true name of the ancient language and tell me what you think;)

i still think it would be a good plot twist if the green egg had already hatched or if like others said and there was another unknown egg that had already hatched. just somthing to spice things up a bit and add some uncertianty.

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xena's-sidekick-gabi wrote:
it is possible that the green egg has hatched but i really doubt it

Hey, i just got a idea! what if selena snatched the egg before she left to give birth to eragon and gave it to garrow telling him to hide it, then went and found brom and hinted at where the egg was. then she went back to morzan.
And galbi never found out!


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hey so according to paolinis latest interview there are no more riders in hinding. the only one s are the ones we know about galby, murtag, and eragon, so sadly this thread is debunked once and for all. :t_cold: :t_cold: :t_cold: :t_cold: :( :( :t_cold: :( :(

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If it has allready hatched, it would be controlled by Galbatorix. I very doubt that any green color would be assosiated with the Empire. It is the color of life, nature - that sound like elven stuff. So Im pretty sure that if there is a green dragon, it would hatch for an elf.


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That isn't also what green is associated with. Green can also mean power or greed or even something like wealth which is what Galbatorix has. Though since green could be linked to our common day money since it is green it might not necessarily mean that in an old time set book.

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Anyone rememmber angela and solembums fortuntelling??

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Speak your true name, and arn't eldunuri dragon souls? Plus if eragon left alagesia taking the unhatched green egg...Or he could die, that would make him leave for ever! :lol:

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gomenesigh wrote:
That isn't also what green is associated with. Green can also mean power or greed or even something like wealth which is what Galbatorix has. Though since green could be linked to our common day money since it is green it might not necessarily mean that in an old time set book.

I really doubt that in old time set book green could mean money. Also, in the whole book, there is nothing mentioned about Galbatorix's wealth.
Anyway, It would be cool if the egg hatches for a neutral person - not a friend with Varden, nor with the Empire.


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I think it won't hatch for Ayra.
She's to old for eragon, it will be someone else, pehaps a girls he is just freinds with. Or the green dragon could not hatch ntil the end and eragon could use eldunuri from the vault of souls to defeatt galby. I think our biggest clues within the book are stuff like the fortunetelling, it tell's us some of whats going to happen and we figure out rest

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Dragongirl wrote:
I think it won't hatch for Ayra.
She's to old for eragon, it will be someone else, pehaps a girls he is just freinds with. Or the green dragon could not hatch ntil the end and eragon could use eldunuri from the vault of souls to defeatt galby. I think our biggest clues within the book are stuff like the fortunetelling, it tell's us some of whats going to happen and we figure out rest


What CP has said.

1. CP has said that the rider will be "logic inevitability"
2. CP also mentioned that he hopes it will be a surprise.
At the time, the book we know now as Brisingr was supposed to be the final book of the series. Paolini decided to separate that book in two. Before Brisingr came most people didn’t though that it would be Arya. It was Roran. But after Brisingr was released, people have considered Arya much more likely, not just because of the events that took place in the book itself but Paolini's explanations of some of those certain scenes since then.
3. The rider has to have been in all three books so far.
4. CP has said that there is clues in the books about who the next rider is.
And the only thing that can count as clues for any character is the constant referring Arya with the colour Green. (the colour that the egg has)
5. CP has said that book four continues the adventures of Eragon, Saphira and Arya.
He didn’t just said Eragon and Saphira. He also said Arya. Take it for what you want

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Well, if it's Arya, it won't be any surprise ^^
I hoped it would hatch for Roran or Angela, even knowing that it's not most likely ;]


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Alright, I get your point. Ayra is a big probability. But don't take every obscure phrase and wrestle meaning out of it, because he won't have pretty much planned whats he's going to say. And my post about the rock of kuhian and the vault of souls, i still think is wright

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Well, if it's Arya, it won't be any surprise ^^

He said that he hoped that it would be a surprise for over 2 years ago.
He said that right after Eldest came. No one thought that Arya would be the next rider back then. And ever since CP said that time has gone on and things has changed weather you realize it or not.

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I hoped it would hatch for Roran or Angela, even knowing that it's not most likely ;]



In the matter of logic inevitability.

Roran:
1. Roran has his family to live for. That would ruin his life with his family, causing him to outlive his wife (his entire world) and his child. Then his possible grandchildren, etc. Roran would never want that. Katrina is his life.
2. Then he could not be King, which is probably the leading theory under Roran - no immortal Rulers.
3. So far, his characterization has been developing his physical strength and leadership skills. No diplomatic skills or magical skills. If you were to use the stone argument, it could easily be countered with this - his failure at learning/using magic could be there to show his path will not be a magical one.
4. Is human - very strong, but only for a human. Could not compete with Galby or Murt or even the weakest elf.
5. On the "Rider blood" argument - blood is no real argument. CP has said that dragon does not choose because of families. He don’t even share that what you then should call rider blood. BromEragon MorzanMurtagh. Roran has no conection there. CP has evens aid that Eragon and Murtagh was a coincidence.
6. We have no time to train him. We would need to teach Roran the customs of Riders, how to preform magic and control energy as well as the AL itself, along with flying and fighting. We don't have the time of two new Eldest books to train him.
7. Wields a hammer, not a sword. It’s a diffrent fighting skill.
8. Due to the above, he is not "logically inevitable," no?

Orik:
1. He is a King. No immortal rulers, no? At least, not of a mortal race. Dwarves = mortal.
2. Yeah, he is also a Dwarf. Dwarves are not in the Pact, and there is not currently enough power to recast it. And honestly, why would it be recast now? In a time of war? Silly.
3. It would cause him to out live his wife/possible children as well.
4. Yes, we all know that he rode Saphira. But he didn't really seem too comfortable with 90% of the time. Yeah.
5. Size rations, anyone? He coulden’t even reach a Urgal from the back of a dragon.
6. Would require to much training. And we still don't have the time for 2 new Eldest books.
7. Not "logically inevitable."

Angela:
1. Based on CP's sister as a kind of joke - she was obviously not meant to have an extreme role in the books. Like, I dunno, the Rider who will help save the dragon race and defeat the evil Empire.
2. Can use magic, but is very weak when it come to magic use. So she would still require magical training, which would make her weaker than all other Riders in the IC. By her own word she has problem with even the easiest spell and therefor she prefers to use herbs.
3. Is human - normal strength.
4. Does not fight with a sword. Minor, but still.
5. Is not "logically inevitable."

Nasuada:
1. She currently is leader of the Varden. That is a big enough responsibility in itself, yes?
2. She would require training in magic and as well in how to use a sword and much more. And we still don't have the time of 2 new Eldest books to train her.
3. Is human - normal strength.
4. On magic, she loathes the stuff. That would cause a kind of conflict of interests, no?
5. Not "logically inevitable."

Elva:
1. Currently (physically) about 7 years old.
Not to mention that she is literally only about 1 year old.
2. No sympathies - why would she fight for the Varden at all? It would take some doing just to convince her to be on the "good side" (bleh) in the first place.
3. She would require training as well, both magically and with a blade. And we still don't have the time of 2 new Eldest books.
4. Again, human. She could not compete physically just by her race, not to mention her age.
5. Unpredictable, to put it mildly.
6. Not "logically inevitable."

But let’s take a look at Arya.
1. The dream in Deathwatch. Two people, a man and woman, boarding a ship while two dragon circle above. Now, most think this is Eragon departing the land with the other Rider, their two dragons flying above. This, if true, indicates the Rider is female.
2. Eragon is in love with Arya, Greenie and Saphie will likely be mates. Fits together.
3. She requires close to no training, as we don't have time to train a new Rider. And CP has even said that she was special trained by Oromis for several years and knows the secrets of the riders.
4. She is elven and female. The other Riders are human and male. It evens it out a little bit.
5. As an elf, is of superior mental and physical strength - and with one book to go, we need it.
6. Green. She has green eyes, green magic, etc. CP has said that there was clues in the books about who the next rider will be.
7. CP is puting her and eragon on even footing. They have the same strength magically and physically, or close to it, both are Shadeslayers. So making her a dragon rider would be the last part.
8. She has been in all three books.
9. She IS "logically inevitable.

And for those who say that she will be the next queen, take a look at this:

Eldest page 309 [English Version]
"If I had died in the course of my duty, then a replacement successor would have been chosen from among our various Houses. Even now I would not be required to become queen if I found the prospect distasteful. We do not choose leaders who are unwilling to devote themselves wholeheartedly to their obligation . . . I had many years to perfect those arguments with my mother"

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Wow. Your right, it must be Arya. But a snag, wouldn't Arya's green dragon to ages to mature? I think your right, though definetley. Wow. You have done your homework

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Of course that the dragon needs to age and mature. But it dosn't take so much time. Remember Saphira. It took her 6 months before she could breath fire. But she could fight and fly with Eragon a long time before that.
And wadding a campaign against a strong Empire will take time.

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Yes, but how would the rider and freinds keep the hatchling safe and secret from Galbatorix? I know Eragon did, but he had to flee within a couple of weeks, perhaps a month, because the king found out. I also think that there is an egg or two or three in the Vault Of Souls, or even Eldunuri. I think it's called the Vault of Souls (hint, dragon souls) for good reason.

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We all know that there were 3 dragon eggs that survived The Fall and captured by Galbatorix and the Forsworn, a blue egg, a red egg, and a green egg. We know that Galbatorix examined the minds of the dragons and found out their sexes. We also know that the blue egg was captured by the thief, Hefring. We know that Hefring deserted his mission and fled. We know that Brom and Morzan, both, sought him out to recover the stolen egg. We know that, when Brom found him, he was dead. We know that Brom found the blue egg and battled Morzan for it before killing his rival and enemy in battle. We know that the Elves begrudgingly agreed to share the egg with the Varden for lack of another reasonable option, though they did not want another human rider. We know that the blue egg eventually did hatch for a human, Eragon, and Saphira was born. We know that later, under Galbatorix’s capture, Thorn hatched from the red egg for Murtagh. We know that Eragon steps on a green eggshell at the site of the Battle of Broken Egg and Scattered Nest.

That is it. That is all that we know about the eggs. If I have missed something tell me, but this is what I know that we can say for certain about the eggs.

Here is what we really DON’T KNOW:

We don’t know how Hefring managed to get the blue egg. We don’t know Hefring’s race. We don’t know how many eggs he got (I’m looking at you Greeni). We don’t know why he abandoned the mission. We don’t know how and why he died. We don’t know that Galbatorix still has the green egg in his possession, aka. We don’t know the current whereabouts of the green egg. We don’t know that it hasn’t hatched yet.

Now, there are readers and in-story characters alike that are making assumptions about these things, but we really don’t know these things.

Here’s my theory:

I think Hefring found the eggs, but, as he was collecting them, he was ambushed. He was only able to retrieve two, the blue and the green eggs. He evades capture but is on the run. Either because he is being hunted by the Empire or because of personal motivations he abandons his mission. Now, I have 3 or 4 theories as to what happens next, but they are just pure guesses with no real evidence, so I will let you imagine what happens yourselves. But, the long and the short of it is that, before Morzan or Brom find him, one egg is passed off and eventually ends up in the elves’ hands, and either Morzan kills Hefring, or he was killed for possessing the egg, by an elf, or another thief perhaps. Regardless, the idea is that the elves now have the green egg. Now, as I said before, we KNOW that the elves didn’t want to share Saphira’s egg in the first place. So, if they got their hands on another egg and the Varden didn’t know it, they sure as hell weren’t about to advertise it. The reason I think it ended up with the elves is because A) I think the last rider is an elf (more on that later). B) The Varden think Galbatorix has it still. And C) I think the green egg shell that Eragon steps on in Eldest was either the very same green egg, or at least a HUGE hint based on CP’s interview on Shurtugal.com. Now, as for who the rider is, I think it’s Arya. And I think she’s been a rider for the entire series, and longer.

Evidence for Arya as a Rider:

-Arya has green magic (a Rider’s magic usually matches his/her dragon’s color)
-Arya is extraordinarily skilled in combat and magic (even among the elves)
-Saphira has an instinctual affection for Arya
-Arya is usually very depressed/moody (possible effect of being away from your dragon for a year+)
-Arya knows how to drain energy from her surroundings (magic stated by Oromis to be taught to Riders only)
-CP has stated that she is more extensively trained in magic than even Eragon (presumably by Oromis

There are a few more superficial reasons I can come up with, but there are really the hard points to defend my case.

There are things that are hard to explain, like why the dragon would remain a secret, even to Eragon, during outright war. Or like the exact motivations and events behind Hefring’s theft. But, while I can’t give a straight, certain answer to these questions, I can say that CP can imagine whatever logical reason he wishes for his story. Maybe the elves have a VERY good reason for the dragon to be absent. Maybe Hefring WAS motivated by personal greed.

As it stands right now, though, I have yet to be presented with a reason for this theory to be impossible. And, in my opinion, it seems the most profitable to the story.

Why my theory is profitable to the story:

A) Eragon and Arya’s bond would, in turn, bond their dragons, ensuring they procreate and continue the species.
B) The dragon already be full grown (bigger than Saphira actually, if it was born a bit before the 1st book as I suspect) and be trained under Glaedr and Oromis before their deaths.
C) Arya would be a rider that we already have an emotional investment in, so we could accept her as a promoted hero of the story.
D) She has the least complications to work out to be a rider of all of the usual suspects (as Nasuada has the Varden to look out for, Roran has a mortal wife and child on the way, etc.) which saves story time to her development as Eragon’s partner and the development of their new plan of attack as a pair, rather than worrying about family and leadership problems.

So, there it is. I figured I would lay it all out and see what you all think. I welcome all critiques, challenges, and, of course, compliments. Sadly this isn’t even all of the thought I’ve put into this, so, if you have questions, I may very well have an answer already. As always, I will be reading and writing in the comment section. Ttyl.

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Saphira's instinctual affection for Arya is because she shares Eragon's feeling. As she said in Eldest, she will be forced to love someone if Eragon does and vice-versa.


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Yes we already know that Saphira loves Arya but if Eragon and Arya were to marry/mate that would help ensure that Saphira and greeni were to mate as well it would essentially make sure there were no possibility of them having any problems concerning compatability.

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One of the biggest hints i can think of is in Eldest p231. The situation is that Arya and Saphira looking east towards the morning dawn.Eragon watches them.
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"... Arya's angled features and panther grace perfectly matched the dragon beside her. No discrepancy existed between their demeanors as they stood bathed in dawn's first rays.
... [i]This[/i] was where he belonged, as a Rider.


Arya just perfectly matches Dragons. It just has to be her.

Maybe the last egg hatched for Hefring? ;P Out of fear to get captured he fled and lives underground.
Eventually Hefring got killed by Morzan and his Dragon is still alive?


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If the dragon is still alive and has already hatched for someone else than the dragon cannot be Arya's. No matter how much she "matches" them or can fight easily with them or can understand them. Dragons have never chosen again once their rider was gone and I doubt that would happen in the fourth book.

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@gomensigh
What are your reason's for doubting it? just curious, because this is the most concrete theory that i have been able to come up with, if not do you have another person in mind? That would fit the profile? (just not an urgal please hahaha) :lol:

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I was responding to Quarkbrot and not to you. The green egg probably will hatch for Arya but until it says it does I will still refuse to believe it and find little things in the books that have a chance at disproving it. I was disagreeing with the fact that no matter how much Arya may be suited to be a dragon rider, if the egg hatched for someone else she will never be its true rider.

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yes she won't be if the egg does hatch for someone else, but I really think that someway or another, arya will be a rider and saphira will have greeny. Two people (bad memory) have both stated an entirly valid factfile on why it should be a rider (though CP said the green eggshell in the shattered egg place was just conicedental). Though, Who says Cp hasnt jus been giving hints and winding us up, and its not arya?

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I don't have much, but this is what is definate.


1. The dragon will be male and green,
2. The egg fragment in the place of shattered eggs is nothing to do with the hatchling

Most likley-
1. The rider will be female
2. the dragon will mate wil Saphira
3. It will be out of G's control.
4. The well of souls will contain eldunari

Second most likley-
1. the rider will be an elf.
2. That elf is Arya (as she has green eyes, green magic, and eragon fancies her.)

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What does green magic mean?! Just because she's an elf or what?


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It's the general rule of thumb that a Rider's magic matches the color of their dragon. So since Arya's magic is green... :wink:

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I ask you why do you think Arya's magic is green and you tell me that "It's the general rule of thumb that a Rider's magic matches the color of their dragon."
This is like if I ask you what time is it and you answer me "It's sunny".


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Because In the first book "if you've read it" Brom mentions to Eragon that a Rider's magic usually matched the color of his dragon. So when Saphirarox says that it's a generality or in this case "general rule of thumb" she's taking what the book says and saying that since it is in the book it's more than likely true, unless of course all CP wanted to do was lie to us throughout the series so that were just all hopelessly confused. "which i highly doubt."

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@mcmarto: Because it says numerous times in the books that her magic is green. Please don't make me look up an example. *pleads illness* :lol:

@Panda: Exactly. The only time I can think of that Eragon's magic isn't blue, is when he summons that werelight in Helgrind. The spell he used was "Brisingr raudhr" or "fire red" (red fire). (Obviously he summoned a red werelight instead of a regular blue one to preserve his night vision, like the dwarves red lanterns in their tunnels.)

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That's exactly what I ask for - example :D Somehow, I can't remember anything mentioned about green magic - as far as I know, CP has never described her magic's vision. She never threw green flames or green color when heals someone - at least that was never mentioned.


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Since you don't want to believe the other members mcmarto, let me prove it for you once and for all.

Eragon, page 4 [English version]
“A flash of emerald light briefly illuminated the forest, and the stone vanished.”

Eragon, page 485 [English Version]
“But Arya raised her palm, shouting, and an emerald ball of energy shot from her hand, killing the Urgal.”

Eragon, page 490 [English Version]
“On her back was Arya: hair billowing wildly, arm uplifted, palm glowing with a nimbus of green magic.”

If you want more examples from the other two books, you have to look it up your self.

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And just to make it clear. CP didn't just said that the egg was green.
He said that it was Emerald green. The dragon will be an emerald dragon.
The exact color that Arya has in both eyes and magic.
And CP said that he has made clues in the books about who the next rider will be.

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U made me believe. You're my hero :shock:


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Lol, nope, he's my hero, 'cause he saved me from having to look it up. :lol: (My eyes are seriously burning. Blasted allergies.) >.<

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Anyway, do you think the green dragon has already hatched? If we are following the theory of it being Arya? I personally think it hasn't.

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
I do believe that is already has hatched a couple reasons would be the Green egg shell that eragon stepped on. (although i already know that really doesnt prove anything really...) also if the dragon were to hatch in this next book he would have no time to grow thus renderring more or less useless in the fight against Galby.

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M: Is it possible that there might be more riders hidden in the world that Eragon could run into?
CP: Only Galbatorix.
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M: Does the piece of green dragon egg shell that Eragon found at the Stone of Broken Eggs in book 2 have anything to do with the green dragon that will be on the cover of book 4?
CP: It was just a coincidence.
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And CP has also said that Galby have the last egg. Grenni and Thorn are under Galbys eyes.

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I think that Greeny hasn't hatched. I think someone has to steal greeny during the destroyence of Urabean, and that the green dragondosn't grow up. I think Eragon finds and unlocks the Vault of Souls containing lots and lots of eldunari, and defeats galby with them. I think the ending is as in Eragon's dream, and thus forfilling the prophcecy made by angela,
two of them, taller then rest, walked arm in arm. Their faces were obsured by cowls, but he could tell one was a woman. Arya and eragon boarding a ship set for Vreongaurd? They stood on the deck of the ship faced the shore. A man stood alone on the beach, the only man who had not boarded the ship. He threw back his head and let out an aching cry. Roran? The vision clouded, but just before it dissapered, Eragon glimpsed two dragons in the sky. Saphira could fly without Eragon a long time before he flew with her. And angela's fortune telling.
Your fate will be to leave this land forever Where you will end up, I know not, but yyou will never again stand in alagasia. This is inescapable.Pg 204, Eragon On shurtugal.com someone asked if vreongaurd counted as leaving the land forever. Cp said no comment, which I later read as being you got something right that cp didn't want you too.

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That's my theory. It seems the most plausible to me, but I know it would be a great help to have another varden freindly dragon rider.

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@The Librarian
Can you post a link to his interview where he said that greeni is under his control? because i've seen about 95% of his interviews and i dont remember him ever saying that.

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I was looking for that inteview yesterday, but couldn't find it =/
If you have seen so many, you probably have seen it as well.

It was about that Galby had all the three remaning eggs. But if I can't find the interview, I will have to drag in the story of Hefring to prove it instead.

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Please do bring Hefring into this because it only proves my point, When they mention hefring he says that he was able to snatch an egg correct? but then how come when Brom is recounting to Jeod about the castle and why they were seperated, he tells Jeod that as he was searching through some of the rooms "at last fortune had smiled upon me". He then goes on to say that once he had the object he couldnt risk losing it which is why he abandoned Jeod.

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As Oromis said Hefring was a thief employed by the Varden or more specifically Brom and Jeod to steal the three surviving Dragon eggs from Urû'baen. But as something went wrong he only managed to claim Saphiras egg leaving the red and green behind.

But Hefring inexplicably absconded with the egg instead of turning the egg over to Brom and Jeod. He was pursued by agents of both the Varden and the Empire, and fled north.

Brom's unsuccessful pursuit of Hefring took seven months, and ended when Morzan found Hefring and recovered the egg before Brom. It is unknown whether Morzan spared Hefring's life or killed him for his theft of a dragon egg.

But as you all probably know, Brom killed Morzan and gave the blue egg to the Elves and Varden.

Thorns egg and the green egg never left Urû'baen and as it was stated the three eggs was the only surviving eggs.

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Then what was it that Brom found???

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I don't know =/
I simply don't know Broms whole story D:

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That will probably become clear in the forth book. I think, as I posted previously, the egg remained in ura'bean









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Also Librarian when CP was first asked about the green egg shell fragment He said, quote, “It’s just a green egg fragment. Why would you think that was a hint? Oh, because there’s a green dragon on the front of the book? Oh, that… No comment.” His tone was sarcastic, and his phrasing was hintful. Most importantly, he ended with “No comment.” Which is almost ALWAYS a huge tip off that you’re on the right track. If I had to guess, either he or the publisher regretted being so blatant with the question the first time, so when asked again, he was much less obvious and is trying to back track himself. The two statements are simply inconsistent and I have the tendency to trust the first statement over the latter one. And, even if it is not actually Greeni’s shell, I think it was meant for huge foreshadowing. Of all of the colors he could have made the egg (if it isn’t greeni’s) he chose the one color of the one missing egg. I don’t think it is coincidence. He’s just covering up his mistake.

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The green egg shell fragment mentioned in passing in Eldest was a coincidence and has nothing to do with the green dragon.

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Is this only your opinion, or something that you can prove?

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When Jeod and Brom found Hefring and Brom killed Morzan, Brom told Jeod he had something that he couldn't risk losing and so left him. Maybe that thing that Brom couln't risk losing was that green dragon egg. I also think the green dragon is Arya's by the way it describes her magic.

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
I don't remember the part where Brom talked to Jeod but I remember Brom left him because he found the blue dragon egg and brought it to the Varden.

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
Lets say Brom did find the green egg when he found Hefring. He might have gave it to the elves and it hatched for Arya, and that is why her magic is green. But maybe the elves didn't want anyone to know about it, a bit like Gleadr and Oromis.

And then again it might still be in Uru'bean with Galby.

But if that was the case then what did Brom stay back for when he killed Morzan?

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
He talks to Jeod when he asks Eragon to make sure he tied up the horse correctly and Eragon uses a spell for keen ears to hear what there saying. When they first travel to Teirm.

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
I've just read that part and Brom didn't really give anything away. :(

Do you have any ideas why he stayed behind?

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
I've posted my ideas and true he doesnt give much away however he does say that "fortune smiled upon me" and that he had found what they were looking for. Now we know at that time that Hefring, Brom, and Jeod were looking for the Egg's, Hefring succeded in filching an egg, So what was it that Brom found? i believe that it was another egg more specificaly Grenni's egg.

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Yeah, nice idea. I have just came up with another thought... Remember Brom went searching for dragon's heart of hearts, maybe he found one?

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That's possible as well, and if he would have found it he wouldnt have told Eragon if he did have any anyways.

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
Yeah... If Brom did find a dragons Heart of Hearts he might have given it to the elves, Oromis maybe.

... I've just had a better thought. If Arya is a dragon rider then Brom might have given it to her.

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
But then wouldn't Arya give Eragon the heart? I know it would be top-secret, but when he fought Murtagh on the Burning Plains and whenever esle he fights him, a dragon Eldunari would be a great help. Plus, in Brisingr, (I think,) Arya does not know how Gleadr and Eragon comminucate through minds when he has his eldunari. Anyway, whoe's heart would it be? Galbatorix would probably have them gaurded almost as much as the eggs!






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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
Your probably right, maybe the green dragon egg is still in Uru'bean then. I can't seem to think what Brom stayed behind for then. :(

Anymore ideas?

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
Dragongirl, if you go to your UCP, there's a link to "Edit your signature", click on it, then do [url=webaddresshere]webaddresshere[/url]. That way you don't have to keep adding that attachment to your posts. If you notice, you can't click on those eggs in the attachment anyway. :wink:

Have y'all considered the fact that CP might have messed up? In Eragon Brom said he found what they were looking for (Saphira's egg) in a crate. In Brisingr it was said that he took the egg from Morzan, along with Zar'roc, after he killed him.

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, maybe it could be Zar'roc he was looking for.

We might be going a little of Topic so I'll start a new thread called, ' What Did Brom Discover? ' . :D

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
No, why would he be looking for Morzan's sword? He already knew where that was. The thing he discovered in the crate was Saphira's egg. I think CP simply made a mistake and got his wires crossed. It happens.

...I'm pretty sure the egg hasn't hatched yet, but I suppose it would be a twist if it has.

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Post Re: THE GREEN DRAGON HAS ALREADY HATCHED!!!!!!!!!
CP already had all three books outlined before he started writing the first, do you really think that he along with editors and family and im sure friends would all miss that error? idk maybe it is just an error, but if we go off on the assumption that it's not, what else could both Brom and Hefring have found?
Brom never claimed that it was Saphira's egg he had found (well at least doesnt say exactly) So when he mentions he had found what they had been looking for we can at least infer that it may be Greeni, if we go off of what the third book tells us. And It does state directly that it was Saphira's egg that Hefring managed to steal.

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